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00:00It's the pivotal moment in any investigation.
00:02Start where you are!
00:04If you get it wrong, then it's game over.
00:07Get in the ground now!
00:12Police officer with a taser!
00:14Taser, taser, taser!
00:20Don't do something, Stephen!
00:30Everything they're doing is on body-worn video.
00:36Police!
00:37Everything they're doing will be examined by defence lawyers.
00:42They can't make any mistakes.
00:46I haven't done anything wrong!
01:00This video is one of the most surprising admissions of guilt that I've ever seen.
01:08This is not something that they would have been expecting.
01:12It is quite breathtaking.
01:14Come on, mate.
01:17Sorry.
01:18Police!
01:20No-one in here at the moment. Hold on.
01:26The police!
01:29Police!
01:30Got it.
01:34Stay where you are!
01:35Stay where you are!
01:36Stay where you are.
01:37Stay where you are.
01:38Stay where you are.
01:39Stay where you are.
01:40You here?
01:41Jenny?
01:42Yeah?
01:43Jenny?
01:44Oh.
01:45The time is 12-12.
01:46You're under arresting a suspicion of murder against Jonathan McCulloch and Lars McCulloch.
01:49OK?
01:50So you don't have to say anything, but in my home defence, if you don't have to mention,
01:52won't question.
01:53Sometimes I just don't want anything to do, so I don't have any evidence.
01:56OK?
01:57I'll call it right.
01:58I'll call it right.
01:59Is there anything in the pocket we should know about?
02:00Yes, there is.
02:01Can I take you to it?
02:02No.
02:03You can tell me.
02:04Er, can we go in there for a second just so I can tell you something about what's in
02:08that.
02:09Yeah.
02:10Yeah.
02:11And then the only reason I said I need to tell you something about what's upstairs on
02:14the top floor as well.
02:15Yeah, OK.
02:16Yeah, OK.
02:17It's getting off quite, huh?
02:18Yeah.
02:19Is it real, man?
02:20Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:21Just mind your face, obviously.
02:22Yeah.
02:23I'm sorry, not the face.
02:24No, it's fine.
02:25Er, I know, but obviously I've got to tackle.
02:27Er, my dad's body isn't there.
02:30Right, OK.
02:31OK.
02:32Yep, OK.
02:33Er, obviously I'll say...
02:34Where about your arm?
02:35Er, a little bit more complicated.
02:38I've never seen anybody react to an arrest in the way Virginia did on that day.
03:01John and Lois McCulloch are missing, feared dead.
03:07John was aged 70.
03:09He lived with a number of medical conditions.
03:12He had type 2 diabetes and had been prescribed medication.
03:17And Lois, who was 71, she lived with a mild form of obsessive compulsive disorder and agoraphobia
03:24as well.
03:28For more than four years, no one had seen the couple.
03:32But when too many health appointments were cancelled, the local GP surgery grew concerned and police were alerted.
03:41Thankfully, the police took that very seriously.
03:45These are people that are predominantly housebound that are missing.
03:49Now, that's a big concern.
03:54Friends and family had received reassuring messages from John and Lois that they'd moved to the seaside.
04:00But phone records now revealed the texts were fakes.
04:05They'd been sent from home.
04:08Despite them saying that they're here, there and everywhere, their phones haven't moved.
04:12So those texts have been sent by somebody else who is in that location.
04:18Home is the last location where John and Lois were seen alive.
04:25The house is an end of terrace property.
04:28It's set over several different floors.
04:32From an officer's perspective, you wouldn't have had a clue what to expect going into that property because no one knew.
04:40It would have been a discussion at a high level within the police force about exactly what would happen.
04:46They would have discussed going and entering the property, protecting any evidence that was there.
04:52They might need protective suits.
04:54All of these considerations were before scenes of crime entered property.
04:59What was crucial was to collect the evidence, preserve the evidence and keep it secure.
05:07If you force an entry into somebody's premises, you have all of the exits covered because people do run away.
05:14They do throw evidence out of the windows.
05:17They aim to arrest the only other person who lives at the house.
05:21The youngest of the McCulloch's five daughters.
05:25Virginia, aged 35.
05:35One of the pieces of equipment they use is commonly called a big red key.
05:40It's basically a ram and the officers will swing it at the weak points of the door.
05:44It looks quite a rudimentary sort of easy tactic to deploy, but actually you have to be trained to do it and it works very well.
05:57It does seem a bit like overkill.
05:59You would think, well, this is a middle-aged woman, but clearly they were wary, they were worried.
06:05To an outside observer, the police bash the door down, running, shouting and are noisy and aggressive.
06:16The police!
06:18That is controlled aggression.
06:20That's controlled aggression for a purpose.
06:22So they're not going in there pumped full of adrenaline looking for a fight.
06:26They're going in there to be noisy, to get compliance.
06:27No one in here at the moment. Hold on.
06:30The police! Got it.
06:33And one way to do that is almost to go overboard in terms of that controlled aggression and noise and command.
06:42Stay where you are!
06:44Stay where you are!
06:46Bash the door down. You've just got officers behind her, in front of her.
06:49Stay where you are, show your chance.
06:50She could see this was a real taser and it's going to hurt her.
06:54And then if she didn't comply, then they would fire the taser, which basically sends two barbs and an electric current into her body.
07:04She must have been like rabbit in the headlights, but the whole purpose of that is to get her to the point where she complies immediately with what those officers are going to do.
07:12Jenny?
07:14Yeah.
07:16The time he's dropped off, you're going to draw a suspicion of murder against Jonathan McCulloch and Lars McCulloch.
07:22OK? She doesn't say anything, but in my home defence.
07:24Can I just take my coffee off?
07:25Make sure we're in question, so she's not going to anything to do so.
07:28OK?
07:30What I can see at the top left of the screen is a vase with some flowers.
07:34Now, it's probably unlikely that she's going to grab that and use that as a weapon, but she could.
07:38So by putting her in handcuffs, that prevents that from happening.
07:41Is there anything in the pocket we should know about?
07:43Yes, there is. Can I take you to it?
07:44No, you can tell me.
07:45The officers don't want someone who they've just arrested on suspicion of two counts of murder wandering around and impacting the crime scene that they'll be investigating.
07:55I need to tell you something about what's upstairs on the top floor as well.
07:57It's fine.
07:59OK.
08:00First, officers do let Virginia McCulloch return them to the room they smashed their way into moments earlier.
08:10Oh, my dad's body isn't there.
08:13Right, OK.
08:14So this would have come as a huge shock to the officers.
08:19The first significant thing she says is, my dad's body is in there.
08:24So this is not something that they would have been expecting.
08:27They might have been expecting some protestations of innocence.
08:30They might be expecting her to say that she's not going to say anything until she gets to the police station.
08:36But she's immediately indicated that the body is still in the house.
08:39Oh, my dad's body isn't there.
08:42Right, OK.
08:43Now, this might be the first time that they realise that the body is still in the house.
08:48And this would have been a huge shock.
08:50But they carry on in a calm, professional way.
08:53Obviously, I'll say...
08:54Where about your arm?
08:56Um, a little bit more complicated.
08:58OK.
08:59Um, can I...
09:00That's why I said, can I go upstairs and show you...
09:02Right, can you explain it to us, please?
09:04Because we're trying to preserve...
09:05It's now going to be a scene.
09:07So we need to preserve this the best we can.
09:09That house was one big crime scene.
09:12The officers themselves have gone in wearing forensic protection.
09:17There was a balance between being able to secure Virginia safely so they could make the arrest
09:23and also forensically protect the scene and the evidence within that scene.
09:29Where were we from, Mum?
09:30OK, so upstairs there were about five wardrobes.
09:33Yep.
09:34Um, it's behind the bed but back next to the sink.
09:38She's describing now exactly where her mother's body will be found.
09:45She's just saying in quite the most cold and dispassionate way
09:51that her mother's in the wardrobe behind the bed by the sink.
09:55It's...it's so bizarre.
09:57It...it...it...it's almost unbelievable.
10:00We didn't know her name was Virginia.
10:15We thought it was Jenny.
10:17In a lot of shops, she was making a nuisance of herself.
10:25Just hanging around, really, so she would be in here.
10:29Even if we had customers come in, she would stand at the back out of the way, but she would just loiter.
10:33I'd call her strange. She was a strange character.
10:40But in here, between just us two, we used to call her Nutty Jenny.
10:46Because she was a bit odd, to say the least.
10:50But not odd enough to ever dream that she would murder her parents.
11:00Ever.
11:01Police have raided a house in the search for a couple missing for four years.
11:15We first heard about it on Essex radio.
11:20The police!
11:22Officers are believed to have arrested a 35-year-old woman in Pump Hill, Great Baddow, near Chelmsford.
11:28They had mentioned Pump Hill, Great Baddow, so then we knew.
11:35Stay where you are!
11:37Stay where you are!
11:39We just looked at each other and was like, oh my God, that's got to be Nutty Jenny.
11:44The woman's believed to be the daughter of the missing couple.
11:47Right, so I've written, I, Virginia McCulloch, have informed police constables 77329 Brown and 79387 Bowers
11:59after entering my house on Friday the 15th September 2023 that I murdered my father, John McCulloch,
12:05who was stated was under a bed in the rear ground floor of the house,
12:09and my mother upstairs in a cupboard next to the sink.
12:12Wardrobe. Wardrobe. It's a double wardrobe.
12:14Right, okay, I've written cupboard.
12:15It's like four walls, but it's the one nearest sink, double wardrobe.
12:20After she killed her parents, she decided that the bodies had to stay there in the house with her, really chilling.
12:30She went out and bought breeze blocks.
12:33Her dad, she kept in the downstairs room, then putting breeze blocks around that in a makeshift mausoleum,
12:39which was covered with blankets and photographs.
12:41It just looks like a bed.
12:44Because of the way in which she wrapped and then protected the body in the sleeping bag in 11 layers of plastic,
12:54sealed him up against all of the factors that accelerate decomposition.
12:59There was no smell, no leakage, none of the things that you would expect from a decomposing body.
13:05She would have had to carry those breeze blocks up several flights of stairs to be able to partially conceal the wardrobe that she'd put her mum's body in as well.
13:14And again, she lived with her mum in that house, taped up, wrapped up in that wardrobe for over four years.
13:25It is surprising that there wasn't that much of a spell.
13:28However, the way that she entombed her parents, she made sure that there was no air that was able to get in.
13:39The McCullochs had lived not too far from the parade of shops.
13:42They were very well recognized in the local area.
13:46Virginia, who was their youngest daughter, was effectively their carer.
13:51She would apply for credit cards in her father's name.
13:56She applied for the early release of her father's pension.
14:01You know, any way that she could get her hands on their money, she would.
14:08Also in the handbag as well, there's, erm...
14:11And again, because you're probably going to need to know about it, there's a card in there.
14:17Card one money.
14:19Um, and, erm, that's a bank card where, erm, there's, erm, a lot of transactions that have taken place.
14:29I've lost a few years.
14:31What?
14:33From the money that pertains to my parents.
14:34John and Lois seemed to think that they were losing money, that their money was kind of disappearing, hemorrhaging almost, and they spoke to Virginia about this.
14:44But she would always have an excuse, always have a reason to give her parents the impression that she was on top of this and she was going to get their money back for them.
14:52Virginia was heavily involved in online gambling, using a lot of the money that belonged to her parents.
15:02She basically stole about £150,000 from her parents.
15:13I think Virginia's lies were starting to catch up with her and she knew that the game was up.
15:18So, she planned for about three months that the only way to continue with the life that she'd created for herself at her parents' expense was to kill them.
15:31She started to experiment with levels of medicines in drinks.
15:34She bought crushing equipment so she could reduce tablets to powder so that they could be secreted in drinks.
15:47On the night of the poisoning, Virginia decided this was it.
15:52And she was going to kill her parents that night.
15:55Some things fell in her favour.
15:57Firstly, her parents slept in separate rooms.
15:59So, if one was affected quicker than the other, then they wouldn't know.
16:05So, John, her father, was in the habit of having a Guinness and a brandy before he went to bed.
16:12Both quite strongly flavoured drinks, so could easily disguise medicines.
16:20She crushed down some pills, some drugs and mixed them into his drinks and sent him off to bed to die.
16:29She'd also put that cocktail with no prescription drugs into a drink for her mum.
16:35Virginia then went off to bed, satisfied that her parents would not survive the night.
16:39Virginia woke up at six o'clock, she went to her father's room, and sure enough, there he was, lying in his bed, still lifeless.
16:56He was dead, her plan had worked.
16:58She then went to her mother's room, and to her absolute shock and surprise, she saw her mum sitting up in bed, set of headphones in, listening to the radio.
17:12It hadn't worked.
17:15What on earth had gone wrong?
17:18When she looked at the spiked drink, she realised her mother hadn't finished it.
17:22She hadn't consumed enough of this murderous liquid to kill her.
17:27Highlighted his actions on taxes, military...
17:30And she's now going to have to rely on her backup plan, which is a far more violent way of killing someone that she should have been loving and caring for.
17:40Obviously, if she left her mother alive, her mother would know that her father had been poisoned and killed, and there was only one person that could do it.
17:48Her mum had to die.
17:51Requested by central command.
17:53And that's when she got the hammer.
17:55Is in reaction to heightened tensions between...
17:58She went back to the room and started attacking her mum about the head with this hammer.
18:08Chillingly, she would go on to describe that as being like playing the xylophone.
18:12Horrific description of killing anyone, let alone your own mother.
18:16Her mum looking up at her daughter, who should have been there to love and care for her, knowing that actually this person would be taking her life.
18:27And then she suddenly had a thought, this was getting too messy, it was too difficult, it was too violent.
18:35She then retrieved a knife from the kitchen.
18:38Came back to the room and stabbed her mother eight times, seven of them in the chest.
18:44Essex police have confirmed that officers today arrested the daughter of a couple missing for four years.
18:51Virginia McCulloch is suspected of murdering her parents.
18:55The purpose of your arrest is for a prompt effective investigation as well as by questioning you.
19:02We can't do that here. It needs to be done at the police station, alright?
19:04I did know that this would kind of come eventually and it's proper that I serve my punishment. So, yeah.
19:18She was resigned to her fate, but this extraordinary arrest still wasn't over.
19:28What's significant that's all written down there, here now, I've just read it up to you. Are you happy to sign that, to say that's a true account?
19:37Yeah.
19:47Cheer up, at least you've got the bad guy.
19:48Cheer up, at least you've got the bad guy.
19:52Cheer up, at least you've got the bad guy.
19:55It's just so cold and so heartless.
19:59I've got no idea where that comes from in a human being.
20:02It's almost like she's trying to reassure him that this isn't quite as bad as you thought it was. It's actually terrible. It's terrible. Yet she's trying to make light of the situation.
20:16Cheer up, at least you've got the bad guy.
20:19I've just woken up today and done my job.
20:22Then the end of that sentence...
20:25I've just woken up today and done my job.
20:27No.
20:29It's not a lie.
20:32We don't look like what? I don't look like a double killer.
20:35I don't look like someone who'd kill my parents.
20:37I don't look like somebody who'd hide bodies away for four years.
20:41I'm not going to comment on anything. It's not my job to comment on it, OK?
20:45He's absolutely right not to engage with her in that way.
20:48He's remained completely professional and detached from her and what's going on in front of him.
20:54She's making admissions, unbidden admissions, and anything that he says at all, either to influence her to talk more or to validate her attitude and views, could be detrimental to the investigation.
21:09No, well, I mean, I deserve to obviously get whatever's coming sentence-wise, because that's the right thing to do.
21:19And that might give me a bit of peace.
21:21I deserve whatever I get sentence-wise, because that's the right thing to do.
21:27You killed your parents, you stole their money, you lied for years to everybody, and you're considering the sentence that you might get given because it's the right thing to do.
21:39There is no connect at all with what she's done.
21:48A woman has pleaded guilty to murdering her mother and father.
21:53Virginia McCulloch, aged 37, of Great Baddow, Essex, concealed her parents' bodies for more than four years.
22:07Jailing McCulloch for a minimum 36 years, the judge told her,
22:11your parents were entitled to feel safe in their own beds, in their own home and from their own daughter.
22:23Yeah, she brought quite a few decorative things from here, like the jug that could be seen in the footage with the police cam.
22:35It was like a little ceramic jug with some lavender flowers on it, and it had some little gypsophilia artificial buds inside.
22:42And she'd got it perched on the bottom of the balister, which was a really weird place to put it, because I thought you could look it over.
22:48And then in the kitchen there was this, like, tall, skinny pink glass vase that she'd bought from us as well.
22:54All I was seeing was stuff that she'd bought from us, and it was just weird seeing it there.
22:59It's just sheer, utter disbelief, really, that she was living there, with bodies, for, what, four years?
23:08If I was involved in this investigation, I would never forget this for the rest of my life.
23:23This would be one of those standout investigations that I would take to the grave.
23:28It's so bizarre.
23:32The way in which it pans out after the arrest is just like something I've never seen or heard of before.
23:40And I cannot imagine any of those officers will ever forget the day that they went through the door and found and heard what they did.
23:50Because it's just beyond my experience, and I would suggest the vast majority of police officers' experience across this country.
24:03It's a really delicate situation.
24:30They really don't want to disturb the normal school morning.
24:37But they have to arrest this man with as minimal disruption as possible.
24:45To keep the arrest low-key, officers, mainly female, are wearing civilian clothes, but concealing a body camera.
24:55The body camera is very important in case the footage is needed at a subsequent trial. In this case, it was.
25:06The location? A primary school on the outskirts of town.
25:10It was just before the start of the school day. There are pupils in the area. There are parents in the area. They all know Greg Hill.
25:20You certainly don't see many arrests outside the school, let alone of a headmaster.
25:24I think the reason that most of the officers were women is to try and blend in.
25:32They wouldn't look out of place at the school.
25:36Police officers probably, I would suggest, go there thinking this is going to be quite an easy arrest. He's a headmaster. He's an educated person with no criminal record.
25:49It's probably going to be a case of we'll arrest him, put him in a car, go back to the police station, and it'll all be done very, very low-key.
25:56Hello there. Is it Mr Hill? Yeah. Hello, Mr Hill. I'm PC Hollington from Kingston Police Station.
26:03Yeah. The time is 8.50. I do need to arrest you. It's in relation to stalking, causing serious alarm and distress.
26:08I don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defence. If you do not mention one question, something which you're late for ironing for.
26:13No, I know that. Anything you do say may be given evidence.
26:15Just stop. I haven't stalked anyone or done anything, but I do need to find my union. I need to go inside. I need to find my union.
26:21No, no. No, I'm sorry. Mr Hill. Mr Hill. Mr Hill. One of your rights.
26:27When someone is first arrested for a crime, they can react in a number of different ways.
26:33One way that I used to see an awful lot is people would try and talk their way out of it.
26:37I can say some words that will stop this happening. I can make it go away.
26:43The headmaster is now under arrest for stalking a junior female teacher.
26:48I do need to find my union. I need to go inside. I need to find my union. No, no.
26:52No, I'm sorry. Mr Hill. Mr Hill. Mr Hill.
26:55One of your rights. Listen, I'm not assaulting you.
26:59You are under arrest. Listen, we are giving you professional courtesy.
27:03Can I just go inside? No, you are under arrest.
27:05Please listen. We have given you professional courtesy.
27:07I agree, but can I just go inside? We have not come in police uniform.
27:10Okay, just say, okay.
27:12One of your legal rights is to have a phone call and that can be the union.
27:15Can you just take your hand off me?
27:16You are starting to walk away, sir, all right? You are under arrest.
27:19Just take your hand off me, first of all. Just take your hand off me.
27:21You were causing a scene and we didn't want to do that, okay?
27:23No, that's fine. I'm not causing a scene.
27:24My colleagues are going to take you.
27:25My colleagues are going to take you.
27:26No, we are in plain clothes and we wanted to wait outside because we didn't want to go into the school in front of all of your staff.
27:31I have done nothing wrong. I've been assaulted by a police officer. She's touched my arm and pulled me.
27:36It's an allegation, okay? It's an allegation.
27:38I want to go inside and just ring my union.
27:39No, you will not be going inside, Mr Hill, okay?
27:42So, Mr Hill says, you've assaulted me, meaning you've touched me, but they're quite within their rights.
27:48He's been arrested. They are allowed to use reasonable force in order to control him, to restrain him.
27:53And the fact that he's trying to walk away and they're holding his arm, more than reasonable.
27:59They're not assaulting him. He just doesn't like it.
28:02But I haven't done anything wrong.
28:03That's fine. We will talk to you about this at interview.
28:05And you could have done this at my house. You didn't need to come to my school to do this.
28:09She started to walk away. I haven't walked away. I'm still by my car.
28:11Could you just turn around the camera, please? I'm going to start filming that.
28:16Officers standing by in case of emergency are alerted.
28:20When somebody resists arrest, sometimes you will see a situation where you get a lot of police officers coming in and trying to control that person.
28:31Now, he is quite a big fella.
28:34That backup would be needed so that Mr Hill can be arrested in a way that he doesn't get hurt and the officers don't get hurt.
28:41I'm going to start filming now because you can see I'm still by my car.
28:44No, don't touch my phone.
28:47That says the backup coming in.
28:50Don't touch my phone.
28:51The number of officers certainly increases at this point.
28:54Don't touch my phone.
28:55Mr Hill is going to know at this point why he's being arrested.
28:59He's also going to understand what is on his phone and there will be evidence on there that would back up what the teacher is saying.
29:06Don't touch my phone. Don't touch my phone. Do not touch me.
29:10It isn't just this is my personal information on there. There's also incriminating stuff on there.
29:15Don't touch my phone. Don't touch my phone.
29:17Don't touch my phone.
29:24The junior teacher started at Howard Junior School.
29:29And it was not too long after that that Greg Hill started contacting her via Twitter.
29:38It became more and more personal.
29:42He started to believe that he had fallen in love with her and this made her feel uncomfortable and it was unwanted contact.
29:50The unmarried headmaster, aged 48, texted the 22 year old teacher.
29:57Can't wait to see this smile, this beautiful face and wonderful person tomorrow.
30:03I'd love to build a future for us in school and outside of school.
30:07He'd quickly become very obsessed with this member of staff.
30:12You know, things have been ramped up quite a lot.
30:16No, do not touch me. Take that off me.
30:19Stop.
30:20Take that off me now.
30:21Mr Hill.
30:22Take that off me now.
30:23We don't want that.
30:24Come on.
30:25Just calm yourself down.
30:26We are trying to do it.
30:27Let go of the handcuffs.
30:28Take that off me.
30:29Take that off me.
30:30Do not put your...
30:31You're going to break my finger.
30:32You're going to break my finger.
30:33Mr Hill.
30:34Let go of the handcuffs.
30:35Let go of the handcuffs.
30:36You're going to break my finger.
30:37Let go of the handcuffs.
30:38You're going to break my finger.
30:39In the police there's an expression, you plan for the worst but hope for the best.
30:42I don't think these officers would have been expected in a situation where very quickly
30:47things are starting to get out of control and they don't want to be in a position where
30:52they're having to manhandle a head teacher in front of the pupils of that school and the
30:56parents.
30:57We've got no set handcuffs.
30:58At the moment we're going to be...
30:59Right.
31:00We're going to be further resisting arrest now.
31:01I'm not resisting arrest.
31:02You really?
31:03You're holding onto the handcuffs.
31:04You are already under arrest.
31:05Okay?
31:06Calm yourself down.
31:07What do you want to go to the car for?
31:10That's fine.
31:11I'm going to search you now.
31:12I haven't...
31:13You're getting put in handcuffs as well now because you've been...
31:14No.
31:15You've already been off-rocked.
31:16You've already been off-rocked.
31:17You've made it happen.
31:18You've made it happen, Mr Hill.
31:19We didn't...
31:20I haven't made this happen.
31:21I'm by my car.
31:22They're trying to assault me.
31:23Please.
31:24Please.
31:25If you're watching this video, don't let them delete it.
31:26Mr Hill.
31:27What are you doing?
31:28What are you doing?
31:29Oh, my goodness.
31:30Please.
31:31Sound it.
31:32I need to...
31:33No, I need to make a phone call to the police.
31:34You're assaulting.
31:35You're hurting my wrist.
31:36Right.
31:37You're going to break my wrist.
31:38You're going to break my wrist.
31:39Calm yourself down.
31:40Outro music in theaby particular case.
31:41You don't care.
31:42Cool.
31:43Mr Hill.
31:44How fake eyep?
31:45Magic leash leading the police in the história imbalance.
31:49Could you just turn around the camera, please?
31:52Don't touch my phone.
31:54They're trying to assault me.
31:56Please.
31:58If you're watching this video, don't let them delete it.
32:00Mr Hill.
32:01Don't let them delete this video.
32:03He can do it.
32:04He can reduce food or media.
32:06In Kings Lynn, Norfolk, primary school head teacher миudel
32:10Gregory Hill, is being arrested on suspicion of stalking a junior female colleague.
32:15You're assaulting me. You're hurting my wrists. You're going to break my wrists.
32:19But as parents drop off their children at the school gate, the headmaster is not going quietly.
32:26No, I need to make a phone call to the police. You're assaulting me. You're hurting my wrists.
32:30You're going to break my wrists. No, you're assaulting me. Help me! Please, somebody call the police!
32:38At one point, Gregory Hill shouts out, call the police, and they're replying, we are the police.
32:44Help me, please!
32:46We're going to have to get Mark's card here.
32:48I don't care. I've done nothing wrong. Help me, please!
32:51Can we get a van?
32:52Please, I've been assaulted. I want your badge number.
32:55Absolutely, you can.
32:56You can have all the badge numbers you need.
32:59So the best thing to do in the circumstance where he's demanding their badge number,
33:03is just calmly, politely, just tell them their name, because ultimately he's going to know
33:10the name of the person that's arrested them.
33:12What's your badge number?
33:12This is really 1908.
33:14Right, 1908 is a complete and utter lie, and I hate police corruption.
33:18That's one of the worst things I hate.
33:19He's groping around to try and find something that will stop the officers doing what they're doing.
33:25They're not going to, because they're there to do a job.
33:28He needs to be arrested.
33:29The officers may or may not have known that Mr Hill was, at some point, a special constable.
33:54The fact that he tells them that is not going to change anything.
33:57Do you not kick him?
33:59Do you not kick him?
33:59Do you not kick him?
34:00Do you not kick him?
34:01Ow!
34:13So after the Queen died, thousands of people were coming to Sandringham to leave flowers,
34:19Paddington bears and corgis.
34:22I went myself and there was a sea of flowers.
34:27I've never seen anything like it.
34:32Greg Hill decided to take 20 to 30 pupils every day to Sandringham to lay flowers and tributes.
34:39And at that time, Kate went over to one of the children from the school, who was quite tearful and comforted her.
34:50Showing sympathy, Kate encouraged the little girl to share her feelings for the late Queen.
34:55Do you want to put your teddies down there, too?
34:58Do you want to put your teddies down there, too?
35:00And they went and put a tribute down together.
35:04Mr Hill was very excited about that.
35:07He posted about that on social media quite a lot and got in touch with us.
35:12And I think it was a story that was picked up nationally, that this little girl had been helped by Kate.
35:19And it was someone from Howard Junior School.
35:22Prince William came and spoke to some of the children.
35:25They'd made this Paddington bear tribute for the Queen.
35:28Do you like Paddington?
35:29Yeah.
35:30Did you see the skit with Paddington and my grandmother?
35:32Yeah.
35:33He loves it.
35:34It's nice to see you guys.
35:37I'm the headteacher.
35:40Hello, everyone.
35:41Mr Hill was always quite keen to be involved in those media opportunities.
35:46So what we didn't know at that point was the fact that the junior teacher had been urged to go along every single day that any children went.
35:58Five days in a row, he insisted on taking this junior teacher along with him, despite having other teachers available,
36:05and despite her saying that she would rather on certain days stay behind with her year class to get to know them.
36:14It felt inappropriate to the victim because she said that she felt it was widening a gap that had already started to appear between her and some of the other members of staff.
36:26She felt that she was being segregated from those members of staff.
36:31She felt that he was trying to isolate her.
36:34A classic abuse of power.
36:36Over the next five months, Hill's harassment continued.
36:49Then he made a critical error.
36:51A critical error.
36:54He was seen taking a photograph of her car while this victim was celebrating her dad's birthday.
37:02After more than a year of the harassment, the victim has had enough.
37:06First, her case was taken to her regional union representative.
37:15When I took the phone call, I was in absolute shock.
37:19One of the first things she asked was, is there any evidence?
37:22And she said, yes, there is evidence.
37:24He's been messaging, using Messenger and Facebook.
37:27And I was like, wow.
37:28The union told police this was just the latest of many complaints by young female teachers who had worked for Greg Hill.
37:39I contacted about 20 ex-members of staff, people that had been silenced by Greg, and started gathering statements.
37:48There was a lot of terror as well because he'd terrified them that they would end their career because his position of power and status.
37:55He'd always been really careful, but his behaviour's got more erratic and a little bit more dangerous and a little bit more out of control.
38:06Help me, please! I've done that bit wrong! Help me, please! I've been assaulted! I want your badge number!
38:12Mr, absolutely you can't. You've assaulted me!
38:15Help me!
38:16Then you're going to get a sack over this!
38:19I'm going to go to professional standard. You used to be a police officer myself, you idiot!
38:23OK.
38:24There comes a point in these situations where, you know, no matter what you say, your words are just not going to be listened to.
38:32They're not going to cooperate.
38:34And they've reached this point now where, essentially, they're having to pick Mr Hill up and carry him to the police van.
38:42Very undignified. He's given them no choice.
38:45Switch his head.
38:49This is that.
38:50I'm dropping. He's resisting. Stop.
38:53Mr Hill, this is unnecessary.
38:55I can't breathe.
38:56Sit up!
38:57This is ridiculous.
38:58Sit up, because if you can't breathe, you need to sit up, don't you?
39:01Or we'll just put you in the recovery position, then, and we'll just leave you on.
39:04I think he's now started to pretend to be unconscious.
39:09Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Please help me, somebody!
39:14This is like that Floyd! This is an assault! This is like that George Floyd in America!
39:19When he brings up George Floyd, he, again, is trying to get control back from these officers.
39:25You can almost imagine him in his mind, what can I do now?
39:29I've threatened them, what can I do now to try and gain control of this situation?
39:33Miss Hill, you can either choose to get in the van, or we can bring some more units down here and we can carry you.
39:37That's up to you, but then you're deprived.
39:39OK.
39:40That is just ridiculous, all of this.
39:41No, that's not your actions that are deprived.
39:42No, it isn't. I've been assaulted. Look at the state of me.
39:44Yeah.
39:45Well, that's your own fault for not cooperating, isn't it?
39:47Well, George, you assault people if they try and just say, look, I'm innocent and just, let me just come with dignity.
39:52Mr Hill, Mr Hill.
39:53You assault them terribly, do you? You've assaulted me terribly!
40:01Stop biting! Stop biting!
40:04Mr Hill!
40:05Oh, Mr Hill!
40:06What he's actually doing is biting himself, he's biting his lip in order to draw blood.
40:11An obvious attempt to try and make it look like he's being hurt by the officers.
40:16Imagine if that video wasn't there and he goes back to the police station and says, look what they've done.
40:20Look what they did to me.
40:22Well, actually, you did that to yourself, Mr Hill, when it's on the video.
40:25So that's why those body-worn videos are so important to make it clear to everybody else later on exactly what's happening.
40:32Listen to what I'm saying!
40:33Don't spit in my face!
40:34Don't spit in my face!
40:35You just spit in my face!
40:36Jailing a Norfolk headteacher today for harassment.
40:46A judge described video footage of his arrest as bizarre.
40:50You're gonna break my finger!
40:51Let go of the hanker!
40:52You're gonna break my finger!
40:53You're gonna break my finger!
40:54You're insulting me!
40:55You're gonna have all the badge members you need!
40:56Stop!
40:57There's no need!
40:58I can't put my arm!
40:59I can't put my arm!
41:00You've broken my watch!
41:01I've been assaulted!
41:02I've got my wrist broken!
41:04I've got my thumb broken!
41:05No, you should have done that to me!
41:07Mr Hill, come on!
41:08You've committed an offence yourself and now you've assaulted me!
41:12Well, we're gonna have to carry you, aren't we?
41:13No, you've got to kill me!
41:14Well, we're not gonna kill you, are we? That's just silly.
41:17The trainee teacher told the court that Hill was always hounding me with messages and emails late at night.
41:24She lived in fear of seeing him.
41:27But still, her ordeal wasn't over.
41:29An Orphic head teacher who served 20 weeks in jail is back behind bars tonight after breaching a stalking protection order.
41:41Gregory Hill of Kings Lynn defied his order by posting online photographs of a trainee teacher he'd been stalking.
41:49Hill was returned to jail for six months.
41:52For years, there had been rumours about Greg Hill, but never enough evidence.
41:58The teachers' union was so concerned, it persuaded trainees to steer clear of him.
42:05I emailed young teachers across Norfolk and advised them not to take up a job.
42:10There must have been about 20 young female teachers that must have not applied or taken a job there.
42:16This could have got a lot worse, so I'm glad we did stop it when we could.
42:20Come on!
42:21No!
42:22No!
42:23Mr Hill, no!
42:24They're not there!
42:25The fact that he was arrested within the domain of his school, I believe, was a huge factor in his behaviour.
42:31They're trying to assault me. Please! Please!
42:33That, I believe, is what's really sparked his behaviour and caused him to act like he did.
42:38You're hurting my wrists! You're gonna break my wrists!
42:41These videos are really impactful to give a glimpse of the real Mr Hill.
42:46When somebody goes to trial, what they do is they try to present themselves to the judge as,
42:52I'm a reasonable person, so that video would have been hugely impactful for the prosecution,
42:58to give a real glimpse of what he's like.
43:01You tried to hurt me! You've rubbed my heart! You put these cuffs on too tight!
43:05That's assault! You've assaulted me!
43:07Come on!
43:08No!
43:09No!
43:10Mr Hill, no!
43:12No!
43:13No!
43:15No!
43:17No!
43:18Stay
43:19te sector.
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