00:00Joaquin was interesting because he wouldn't talk to me on set.
00:02I only talked to Todd because he was immersed in this thing.
00:05And we did a take of that.
00:07And he would look at me when I talked to him.
00:10Joaquin would.
00:10And then he made this amazing choice where when I talk, he doesn't register me.
00:14He's locked in to Murray, Robert's character.
00:17And when I talk, he doesn't look at me.
00:19And that was a choice.
00:20I saw him make it.
00:21I know he was smart.
00:22Hey, hi, I'm Mark Maron.
00:23I'm a comedian, podcaster, actor, and cat owner.
00:28Come here.
00:28Oh, good timing.
00:30You're a real star.
00:31I'm here talking to the Hollywood Reporter about whatever it is they want to talk about.
00:36Right, Charles?
00:48You're the manager of this band?
00:50Yes, that and all.
00:51Come on, man.
00:51Yeah, well, you didn't finish your full set, man.
00:53Listen, pal, your shoddy skate setup almost killed my guitarist.
00:57Yeah, well, you trashed my f***ing dressing room and you didn't do your 25 minutes.
01:00You're a bunch of amateurs, man.
01:03You want it?
01:03Come on.
01:03You want it?
01:04Come on.
01:05What do you got?
01:06What do you got?
01:07Take f***ing go, Arlen.
01:09Hey, watch the shirt.
01:11Almost famous.
01:12And I was almost famous for about 30 years after that.
01:16All in.
01:18What is that?
01:19What is that?
01:19What are you, Bruce Lee?
01:20I remember a lot of it.
01:22Like, it was very exciting.
01:23It was the first kind of real role for me.
01:26I don't know.
01:26You know, Cameron Crowe liked my energy.
01:28So he cast me out of New York.
01:30And he's very nice to me.
01:31You know, they kind of let me improvise a lot of that.
01:34All I know is I hope you've got a good lawyer, buddy.
01:36Lock the gates on these f*** hands.
01:38He was walking around the set saying, we had to import this anger from New York.
01:42It was all pretty exciting.
01:43Everybody was pretty cool.
01:44It was pretty nice.
01:45We shot a lot more stuff.
01:46Watching it again, it was pretty good.
01:47I do remember the moments that I improvised.
01:50And it was kind of, it's kind of funny because a lot of it was just kind of winging it.
01:54But Noah, Noah Taylor, he came in so hot.
01:57So I had to like kind of match that.
01:58But I'm Mark Maron.
01:59I live here alone with Monkey, Boomer, and La Fonda.
02:02They're cats.
02:03I had a wife, two actually.
02:04They're not dead.
02:05Well, they're dead to me.
02:06Well, actually, I'm dead to one.
02:08The other one, I could probably get back.
02:10Why are you telling me this?
02:11That's better than I thought.
02:13Maron was really the first indication that, well, I knew the podcast was popular.
02:17But before I started the podcast, you know, there was really no options for me.
02:21So I didn't ever think I'd really do any acting.
02:24But then we pitched a show that's based on my life.
02:26These kind of shows were sort of around.
02:29It was really my first attempt at acting in a real way and doing some writing.
02:35And we just knocked this out, you know.
02:37And I knew going into it that I would not be good because I'd seen enough comics do a
02:42first season of a show where they're just not comfortable.
02:44Comics innately are a little self-conscious.
02:48I think I did better than I thought, but I knew I would have to learn.
02:51And that was sort of a kind of a grown-up disposition on the thing for me, saying like,
02:56dude, just don't worry about it.
02:57You got to learn.
02:58And people are going to see you learning.
03:00You know, but it's IFC.
03:01How big of a hit are you going to take?
03:04This is bad.
03:05This is me stopping the podcast.
03:07The mouth is just looking for reasons to get me in trouble.
03:11IFC were great, very supportive.
03:13We did four seasons.
03:14I don't know how many people really saw it, but the people that did liked it.
03:18And I think over the course of the four seasons, I got better.
03:21The scripts got better.
03:22The last season was interesting because it was not based on my life.
03:25It was sort of a worst case scenario.
03:28Learned a lot of stuff.
03:29And yeah, I think I did all right just even by that clip.
03:33It's hard for me to tell, but like, I'm glad I haven't seen it in a while.
03:35Happy first day.
03:40It's not sentimental present.
03:42It's vodka.
03:43It's classic star gift.
03:46It's 9 a.m.
03:47Oh, God, I know.
03:49That was Glow.
03:51And that's pretty funny.
03:53Me and Allison got along pretty good.
03:54I think I got along with all of them.
03:56And I think there was a nice dynamic that evolved between that guy that I was playing and all
04:00those ladies.
04:01I got that role on a video.
04:04Like, I shot the audition and I got it.
04:06I mean, they were apparently, you know, Genji, Kohan was like, that's the guy.
04:10And Liz and Carly, the writers, they were into it.
04:14And that was the first big, you know, sort of TV job outside of my own show.
04:18But this one was a little more elevated.
04:20But it was great.
04:21You know, Sam Sylvia was pretty popular.
04:23He seemed to remind a lot of ladies of either their dad's or their dad's friend from that era.
04:29Like, I liked playing that guy.
04:31Murray.
04:31Hey, hey, hey.
04:32Mr. Franklin.
04:33Oh, come on, Gene.
04:34That's all bullshit.
04:37Thank you, Murray.
04:38What's with the face?
04:39I mean, are you part of the protest?
04:41No.
04:42I just thought it'd be good for my act.
04:44For your act?
04:45Didn't you hear what happened on the subway?
04:46Some clown got killed.
04:47He's a way with that.
04:48He's a way with that.
04:48Yeah.
04:49No, I hadn't heard.
04:50Yeah.
04:50You see, this is what I'm telling you.
04:51The audience is going to go crazy if you put this guy on.
04:54Maybe for a bit, but not a whole segment.
04:56Gene, it's going to work.
04:57It's going to work.
04:58I did better than I remembered.
05:00Well, you know, Todd Phillips likes comedians.
05:03He wanted me in that role.
05:04It was pretty exciting, you know, doing a scene with De Niro.
05:09There's a lot of waiting involved in acting.
05:11And it was a full set, the full talk show thing.
05:13And, you know, before the scene, I met Robert De Niro and, you know, he was going through
05:18some stuff that day.
05:19But, you know, but he was a, he was a nice guy.
05:22But Joaquin was interesting because he wouldn't talk to me on set.
05:25I only talked to Todd because he was immersed in this thing.
05:27And we did a take of that.
05:29And in the first take, you know, he would look at me when I talked to him.
05:33Joaquin would.
05:35And then he made this amazing choice where when I talk, he doesn't register me.
05:39He's locked in to Murray.
05:40He's locked into Robert's character.
05:42And when I talk, he doesn't look at me.
05:45And that was a choice.
05:45I saw him make it.
05:46I know he's smart.
05:48Because he's going to kill him.
05:56Hey.
05:58Can I be doing something?
06:00You make sure I don't wait.
06:01That was heavy stuff.
06:17That was too Leslie.
06:19That director really wanted me to do it.
06:20And I really didn't want to.
06:22And I couldn't understand why he wanted me.
06:25And then I got on the phone with him.
06:26And I'm like, why me?
06:28And he was a fan of my show.
06:31I think the last season of my show, Marin, I think is what he kind of locked into.
06:35And he just said, I think you have the emotional capacity for this guy.
06:39And I liked the last season of your show.
06:41And I'm like, all right.
06:41Well, that seemed genuine.
06:43And then I was like, I don't know if I can do the accent.
06:45You know, it's a Texas guy.
06:47He goes, don't worry about it.
06:48I took the role and I realized, well, this is a real part.
06:50It's definitely not me.
06:53So, like, once you try the accent, what do you got to lose?
06:55No one's going to see it.
06:58Just do it.
06:59And it was pretty exciting working with Andrea Riceboro.
07:02I didn't take into mind that she was such a great actress.
07:05I don't know that I knew her reputation.
07:07I just knew that I had to do my guy.
07:09And she was going to do her lady.
07:11And I would just react to her.
07:12And it went pretty well.
07:14And people ended up seeing it because there was a big kerfuffle about getting her
07:18into the nominations for Best Actress, which I think caused her some anxiety.
07:25But I'm pretty proud of that work.
07:28Hey, you're that golfer, aren't you?
07:30Bryce Cahill.
07:31Used to call you Stick, right?
07:33Yep, that's me.
07:34This guy was a big pro golfer on television, everything.
07:37Twelfth hole.
07:38Big tourney.
07:39Sawgrass, I think, maybe like 2009.
07:42Shanks went into the lake and just melts down.
07:44Full psychotic break on live TV.
07:48It was insane.
07:49There was clubs in the water.
07:51I bet you can't even look at a club after a train wreck like that, right?
07:54Stick on Apple TV currently.
07:57That was another one where they said they really wanted me to do it.
08:01And I said, I really don't want to do it because I'm an idiot.
08:06And it was just sort of like the whole idea.
08:09I'm kind of like an anxious, neurotic person.
08:12And the idea of like living in another city for three to four months, you know, not having
08:17a routine up there.
08:18How am I going to get all that together?
08:20The supporting role.
08:21There's going to be a lot of waiting.
08:23I don't know anything about golf.
08:25Why me?
08:25And I kept saying like, you know, there's got to be someone else out there that can do
08:29this, but they really had their, their, their mindset on me.
08:33Look, I love Owen and the scripts were very touching and the supporting cast was great.
08:38I'm just like, it's just when I get offered things, I'm like, ah, where is it?
08:43How long?
08:44How long is it going to take?
08:45Just stupid shit.
08:46But it was funny because I met the business affairs person when I, when I went up there
08:50and I was like, you know, I, I really was, was not going to do this thing.
08:53And she's like, we were going to get you.
08:56I didn't realize that that was sort of the thrill of their job.
08:58Like what I did by honestly saying, no, they were like, oh, this is going to be good.
09:03We're going to break him.
09:04But I think the thing that what really struck me about these scripts when it came down to
09:09it as an actor was that these were two guys that were beaten up in a substantial amount
09:14of, of grief.
09:15And they'd been friends a long time.
09:17And there was a lot of unspoken between them.
09:19We're kind of both really these guys to some degree.
09:24Yeah.
09:24I think it was very honest characters for both of us to play the writers and the showrunner
09:29was very kind of collaborative.
09:30And we kind of were able to find a zone where this guy had a life and it came out pretty
09:36good.
09:36I mean, you know, people like it.
09:38And I think it's an emotionally moving series.
09:42Again, I'm Mark Maron, just to remind you, this is the Hollywood Reporter.
09:46And there'll be more in the article because they really want to get into this stuff.
09:52It was very nice.
09:53I had a good time.
09:54I had a good time.
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