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US and Europe try to dissuade Russian President Vladimir Putin from invading Ukraine 7.30
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About 130,000 Russian troops are now staged near Ukraine's border.
00:09
The US fears an invasion could be days away.
00:12
Despite the show of force, Russia continues to deny any plans to invade,
00:17
dismissing US warnings of an imminent invasion as hysteria.
00:21
The Australian government's evacuating its embassy,
00:24
following similar moves by the US and Canada.
00:27
The situation, as you are all hearing as well, is deteriorating
00:32
and is reaching a very dangerous stage.
00:35
World leaders have been speaking with Putin to try and de-escalate the situation.
00:40
When the Minsk Accords were signed,
00:43
there wasn't anything like today's intense Russian military presence at the border.
00:48
And that's something we discussed with President Putin.
00:51
And when I talk about stability and de-escalation, that's what it's about.
00:55
In a phone call, President Biden warned Putin of swift and severe costs if Russia invades.
01:01
Putin argues that Washington has failed to take Russia's main concerns into account,
01:06
including demands that Ukraine be prohibited from joining NATO.
01:10
Despite the mounting global concern, Ukraine is playing down invasion warnings,
01:15
while the US says its troops won't enter the country.
01:18
That's a world war when Americans and Russians start shooting at one another.
01:23
We're in a very different world than we've ever been in.
01:27
Maria Avdeyeva is a research director at the European Expert Association
01:32
and is currently in Kharkiv, 40 kilometres from the Russian border.
01:36
Maria Avdeyeva, you're based in Ukraine's second largest city.
01:41
Are people there assuming there will be an invasion and how are they dealing with that?
01:46
People get all the time this worrying news about the mass massing troops on Russian border.
01:54
And it is very close to Kharkiv.
01:56
It's like 40 kilometres from our city.
01:59
So people do get worried.
02:01
But on the other hand, they are ready to fight.
02:04
And if there will be a major invasion, it will not be an easy walk for any Russian soldiers.
02:11
Because on the contrary, from the situation in 2014, when Ukraine was not ready,
02:18
that our closest neighbour will invade and will attack.
02:22
Now everyone knows what to do.
02:24
And we have territorial defence units and women also go there.
02:30
And the people study and how to, what to do with the weapons.
02:35
I mean, just civilians.
02:36
And also we have around 50, sorry, 500,000 people with a war experience
02:43
who already been through this war, who have been combatants at that war.
02:48
So they are ready to protect our land.
02:51
Would it look like a conventional military campaign or would it be a different kind of war?
02:58
It could be both.
03:00
Because now what we see for the previous years,
03:04
Kremlin and Putin are always trying to combine military operations with hybrid threats,
03:12
with disinformation, with cyber attacks.
03:15
So in this case, probably it will be that scenario.
03:20
And also Putin and Kremlin and Russian forces, they need some pretext.
03:25
It will be hard for them to explain to the world if they make this major invasion without any reason.
03:33
That is why they are looking to create some provocation, some pretext.
03:39
And we clearly see it in the pro-Russian media, pro-Kremlin media.
03:44
Almost every day they are claiming that Ukraine with the support of our allies,
03:49
with the support of US, Britain, Poland,
03:54
are somehow trying to attack the occupied territories of Donbas,
04:00
which is completely untrue because Ukraine doesn't want to attack any country.
04:05
Ukraine wants to defend our land and that is what we were doing for the last eight years.
04:14
Maria Avdeva, thank you very much for your time today.
04:16
Thank you very much for having me.
04:35
Thank you very much.
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