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Interview with a Killer Season 3 Episode 5
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00:00Every day before I brush my teeth, I pick my pistol up.
00:11That pistol was mandatory.
00:13Especially the life I was living, it was mandatory.
00:16The killer was a hardened drug dealer and lifelong gang member.
00:20You also called yourself Ag Town's Grim Reaper.
00:25Yeah.
00:26And what did you mean by that?
00:29I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory, too.
00:33The victim was a struggling young man with a drug addiction who ran afoul of his dealer.
00:38That's a nice-ass word.
00:40The punishment began with torture.
00:42I started tattooing his back.
00:44I'm blacking it out.
00:45Now I'm mad.
00:46And ended with cold-blooded murder.
00:49The switch is flipped.
00:50Yeah, so now there's no way to unflip it.
00:52From the vicious world of street gangs and drugs, a killer talks for the first time.
00:58There's a code to that life, right?
01:01How you pay respect, command respect.
01:05Mm-hmm.
01:05If they see any type of weakness in you, you're not going to last long.
01:10It's over with.
01:11And opens a new window into a brutal crime that took a young man's life.
01:15Is that the gun you used to kill him?
01:18Or...
01:19Okay.
01:21So for about a few hundred dollars and some disrespect, you're willing to torture, torment him.
01:30For future references, keep it 100.
01:33This s*** don't happen to you.
01:34Ultimately, murder a man for acting like a junkie when you're the one who turned him into a junkie.
01:43How do you account for that?
01:44Okay.
02:28Arlington, Texas, a mix of everything and everyone, the rich, the poor, and the middle class, whites, blacks, browns, even Kurdish refugees,
02:54who built a strong community here after fleeing genocide in Iraq for a chance at the Amemali.
03:00Those hopes were dashed when a young man got caught up in the dark underbelly of the drug trade and paid for it with his life.
03:08I'm here to find out why.
03:14Good morning.
03:16Good morning.
03:19How are you doing, Benjamin?
03:20I'm good. How are you?
03:21Benjamin Delgadillo is serving a 50-year sentence for the torture, abduction, and murder of 22-year-old Eunice Alhassan Yanni in February 2021.
03:33First time talking about the case publicly?
03:35Yeah, I ain't talking about my case, nothing.
03:37Right, because there was no trial.
03:39No trial, no nothing.
03:41Delgadillo pleaded guilty to murder, but left the victim's family and the public with many unanswered questions.
03:48Today, he's agreed to talk for the first time about the crime and the gang code he says was behind it.
03:57We wanted to talk to you to try and understand the mindset and motivations behind your actions in this case.
04:05Does that make sense?
04:05Yeah.
04:06Why did you want to talk to us?
04:09I mean, it's an opportunity for both sides, really.
04:13Y'all can understand what really happened that day, and I could have a chance to voice and tell y'all the truth.
04:21You want to say your piece?
04:23I mean, yeah.
04:23Yeah.
04:24Okay.
04:25Delgadillo is deemed so dangerous by prison authorities that he's not only seated behind glass, but inside a metal cage as an extra precaution.
04:34And you're in here doing 50 years for your part in this crime, right?
04:41Far more than anyone else implicated in the case, right?
04:45Do you feel like you took the fall for this murder?
04:48Mm-hmm.
04:50I don't really necessarily say I took the fall, but I guess I'm just the one who got stuck with it.
04:56Interesting.
04:57Okay.
04:57We're going to get into the case in a moment, but I want to take a moment to learn a little more about your background, okay?
05:03Okay.
05:04You're from the south side of Arlington.
05:06Okay.
05:06Right?
05:07Yeah.
05:07Grew up born and raised there.
05:08Mm-hmm.
05:09What was that neighborhood like?
05:10You know, I really grew up with a little single mama struggling.
05:14Mm-hmm.
05:14So by the time I grew up and I was around like 11, 12, I went out there and tried to help my mama.
05:22On the streets?
05:23Yeah.
05:24So I started going out, selling drugs, robbing people.
05:28How old were you?
05:2812, 11.
05:3011 years old?
05:31Yeah.
05:31And you're out there in the streets robbing people.
05:33I mean, that's the only thing I knew.
05:34How did you know it?
05:35Who turned you on to that life?
05:37You know, the people I grew up around, you know, that was the culture.
05:41That was the lifestyle.
05:43Gangs, drugs, stuff like that.
05:45So I became a gang member about the age of 12.
05:49Which gang?
05:49I'm Five Deuce.
05:52Five Deuce is an affiliate of the Crips gang that originated in Los Angeles and now has a large membership in Texas.
06:00Delgadillo says he's been a member for most of his life.
06:03Most of us know very little about the life of a street drug dealer or gang member.
06:11What's it like to be in that kind of life?
06:12Like, when you first start off, I mean, yeah, it's exciting.
06:17But, you know, being in the street, selling dope, shooting, getting shot at, that's scary, you know?
06:24Like, I mean, you think it's fun until bullets flying past by, you see your partners dropping, getting shot.
06:31And there's a code to that life, right?
06:35A kind of street code about how you act, how you pay respect, command respect.
06:39Mm-hmm.
06:40Respect gonna get you a long way.
06:42You respect people, they're gonna respect you.
06:45How important is it to project an image of strength in that game?
06:49Oh, it's very, it's very important.
06:51If they see any pushover, any type of weakness in you, you're not gonna last long, it's over with.
06:58On social media, Delgadio openly promoted his business and his brutality.
07:03It was his brand.
07:05You advertised yourself as BDA.
07:09What does that mean, BDA?
07:11BDA, all right.
07:11So, BDA, that's a neighborhood clique.
07:14That's my neighborhood clique.
07:16That's, you know, we in the world of BDA 241.
07:19I got it, you know, tatted all on me.
07:21It stands for about that action.
07:23Mm-hmm.
07:23So, I mean, you can, you, it's pretty self-explanatory.
07:27Emphasis on the action.
07:28Yeah, we bat that action.
07:30You also called yourself Ag Town's Grim Reaper.
07:35Yeah.
07:36And what did you mean by that?
07:39I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory, too.
07:43Were you, in fact, as ruthless as that suggests?
07:47Uh, I mean, I already signed for my time, so, I mean, I myself wouldn't speak on myself, like, my actions.
07:56I would have somebody else speak on me.
07:59That sounds like a yes.
08:00I guess, yeah.
08:01Everyone uses nicknames, right, to avoid government names, right?
08:07What were yours?
08:08My first one, Puppet.
08:10I had got that, like, 10 years old.
08:14I had got that name, though, because, hey, go tell him what to do.
08:18Go tell him what to do.
08:19He's gonna do it.
08:19As soon as you tell him, he's gonna go do it.
08:21So, they had me, like, little strings.
08:23Oh, Puppet on a string?
08:23Yeah.
08:24You were also known to always carry a gun.
08:28Yeah.
08:29Right?
08:29Yeah.
08:29Did that start at 11 years old?
08:31I mean, yeah.
08:33Once they put that first pistol in my hand, you know what I'm saying?
08:36Every day before I brush my teeth, pick my pistol up.
08:39Then I'm gonna go take care of what I...
08:40That pistol is mandatory.
08:43Especially the life I was living, it was mandatory.
08:45Required equipment.
08:46Mm-hmm.
08:46At 11 years old.
08:48And were you, even at that age, ready to use it if you had to?
08:53I told myself I was.
08:55I told everybody else I was.
08:57Nobody really knows until it's that time.
09:01Delgadillo became a full-time gun-slinging drug dealer.
09:05Meth, coke, heroin, etc.
09:08But his own drug of choice was something known as bars.
09:11I was so hooked on them bars.
09:14I was a bar baby for real.
09:15Like, I got introduced to them like 13, 14, young.
09:21As I understand it, it's basically two large doses of Xanax kind of melded together.
09:27It looks like a bar.
09:28Yeah.
09:28Yeah.
09:29Right?
09:29Yeah.
09:30Everything just feels amazing.
09:34Everything feels good.
09:35Slow.
09:35Everything just...
09:37Slow down the game?
09:38Mm-hmm.
09:40Delgadillo was high on Xanax in early 2021, when he says he nodded off in the backseat of a car
09:47after selling meth to Yunus Alhassanyani.
09:50When he woke up, his customer was gone, and so was his supply of drugs.
09:55That's when the trouble began.
09:59How long had you known Yunus?
10:02Probably not even six months, really.
10:04Did you know he was struggling to get clean?
10:07Yeah, I did.
10:09I did.
10:11Yunus was born and raised in Texas, but his parents were refugees from Kurdistan
10:16and part of an ethnic group persecuted in their homeland in northern Iraq.
10:21His family had recently sent him to Kurdistan.
10:24In the hopes of kicking the drug habit he picked up in Texas.
10:28But now he was back in Arlington, and so was the habit.
10:33Looking back on my life now, like, a lot of the people that I did a lot of deals with,
10:39I really shouldn't have been, like, dealing with them,
10:42because I seen I was really hurting them more than I was helping them.
10:46You could see that?
10:47Yeah.
10:48Or you can see that now, you mean?
10:49I knew it was wrong when I was doing it.
10:51You did?
10:51I knew everything I was doing was wrong.
10:53So you knew the difference between right and wrong?
10:55Yeah, it's just, it's just, I've been so caught up into this so long, it's just,
11:01it's not about what's right and what's wrong anymore, it's about me taking care of myself.
11:07Delgadillo estimates Yunus stole about $1,000 worth of drugs from him.
11:11There was meth, uh, what I had, uh, some exos, heroin, some weed, like, a whole bunch,
11:19just a whole bunch of little, little, little amounts of everything.
11:23But he says it wasn't really about the product or the cash.
11:27See, so the, the whole situation, like, it wasn't really behind the money, it was behind
11:32him doing what he did.
11:34Like, I felt you disrespected me, you played me, like, I, that's really where it was.
11:38And the disrespect is a serious offense in that life.
11:42Yeah.
11:42Not only did he stick you with the debt, but he makes you look bad.
11:46Yeah, because if I have this image that everybody knows, oh, he don't play with him, eh.
11:50Right.
11:51Okay, so now he's not this big, bad person he was, he's not untouchable how he said he
11:55was, he's not this.
11:56Let's go try him.
11:58Because you can't show weakness, right?
12:00And so, you can't let it stand.
12:03Mm-hmm.
12:06Tap out session.
12:08So, if you got some money, you want to do the same?
12:11Come through.
12:12Cool.
12:13As many tattoos as you want.
12:14Tap out for $500, all you can take.
12:19Two weeks after that drug theft, Delgadillo found himself at, of all things, an all-night
12:24tattoo party in the home of a woman Eunice was dating, Erica Perez.
12:29It could be your whole mother's body.
12:31Who's ready?
12:33Unfortunately for Eunice, he showed up too.
12:36I didn't know he even knew them, but, but yeah, like, I'm getting my tattoos done and
12:40then, uh, knock on the door.
12:44They open the door, it's Eunice.
12:46I didn't know this whole time Eunice and Erika is, uh.
12:51A couple.
12:52Yeah.
12:52Yeah, so I didn't know that.
12:53So I'm like, oh, okay, okay.
12:56But I'm not tripping on it, you know?
12:58Me, I'm not tripping.
13:00That's cool.
13:01Stage is set now.
13:02Yeah.
13:02Right?
13:04Walk me through what happened that night.
13:07This is the turning point.
13:09I'm getting tattooed.
13:10I even give them some drugs to go do.
13:12Here, boom, go do that.
13:14You want, you want to get high?
13:14Go get high.
13:15Boom.
13:16I see too much movement in my peripheral.
13:19Too much movement.
13:21I got a backpack with some dope over there.
13:23Mm-hmm.
13:23That's when I see it again.
13:25The movement.
13:26So I look.
13:27But this time when I look, he grabbed my bag.
13:31Eunice?
13:32Yeah.
13:32He grabbed my bag, tried to take off running with it.
13:35I knew it.
13:36So this is a second offense.
13:37Yeah.
13:37So if I felt disrespected the first time, I felt played the first time.
13:41This time you're doing it in front of me.
13:43I had already hopped up, pushed the tattoo artist off of me and ran.
13:47I ran behind him.
13:47I had my gun.
13:48So by the time I run up behind him, he's trying to unlock them hoes, I put my gun on him.
13:53Hey.
13:53You must have been pissed off at that point.
13:55I was mad.
13:56Hell yeah, I was mad.
13:57That's really what this whole situation was.
14:00Delgadillo says his reputation as a drug dealing gangster had been twice tested by Eunice and was then at stake.
14:06According to the code, you have to act.
14:09Yeah.
14:10He crosses a line.
14:12You can't let it stand, right?
14:14Yeah.
14:15You can't be the dealer who got punked by some small-time junkie, right?
14:22So by the street code, right, what would be the punishment for an addict who steals repeatedly from his dealer?
14:34That's the question.
14:35Yeah.
14:36What's the answer?
14:39The answer begins with torture and ends in murder.
14:43So me, I want to embarrass you.
14:48I want to make sure that you remember me for the rest of your life.
14:52Scar him for life.
14:54Yeah.
14:55Who wants to get tattooed by one of Arlington's best tattoo artists?
15:12On the night of February 1st, 2021, Erica Perez hosted a gathering.
15:18It was a tattoo party where people pay a flat fee to be inked up all night by a local artist.
15:25He had did the tattoos on the back of my head, so I had already had got some work from him.
15:30So I was like, okay, you're pretty good.
15:33You're decent.
15:34Which ones did he do?
15:35Can you show me?
15:35Yeah.
15:37He did the whole back of my head.
15:38Oh, he did all of that?
15:41Yeah.
15:42Mm-hmm.
15:43So he did the whole back of my head.
15:45Mm-hmm.
15:45And then, so, I mean, I knew he was pretty decent.
15:48Delgadillo might have gone for the tattoos, but when one of his customers showed up, too,
15:53the night took a dark turn.
15:55It was Erica Perez's boyfriend, Eunice Alhassiniani, who had robbed Delgadillo of his drug supply.
16:01And now the code of the streets required that Delgadillo retaliate.
16:06Some people would have just killed him.
16:09Yeah.
16:09Right there and then?
16:10Yeah.
16:11By the street code, that would be acceptable?
16:15Yeah.
16:15Advisable?
16:16Yeah.
16:17What escalated the whole situation was Erica.
16:23Don't laugh.
16:24I'm not giving you props.
16:25I'm just saying.
16:25Delgadillo says Perez, who had also fallen out with Eunice that night, then threw fuel on
16:31the fire, goading Delgadillo to punish him for stealing.
16:36They were having an argument.
16:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:38Right?
16:39They were arguing.
16:40And at some point, she kind of throws him under the bus.
16:46Yeah.
16:48And is Erica, she's watching, enjoying the show?
16:51She's the one who recorded it.
16:53Right.
16:53I ain't recording none of that.
16:55We hear her on the recording, right?
16:57Shh, shh, shh, shh.
16:59No.
17:00Hey, my bad.
17:00I'm not a professional tattooer.
17:02The loyalty hurts more.
17:05I grabbed a tattoo gun he had.
17:07I had my gun in one hand, tattoo in the other hand.
17:09You had your pistol in one hand and the tattoo gun in the other hand.
17:12Mm-hmm.
17:13Okay.
17:13So I had told him to lay down.
17:16He didn't want to lay down, but I made him lay down.
17:19Okay.
17:20Eager to humiliate Eunice, Delgadillo took offense at the hometown tattoo on the young
17:25man's back and began raking the tattoo gun over his victim's skin.
17:30You know, I'm from the South Side.
17:34He was from the South Side, too.
17:36He had a big old South Side tattoo on his back.
17:39He had on a red polo shirt.
17:41I just grabbed it, ripped it.
17:43You ripped it off, revealing this South Side tattoo on his back.
17:47I'm really from the South Side.
17:48Yeah, so that's when I started tattooing his back, the whole South Side.
17:55Say, what y'all, hombo?
17:56What you got right there?
17:57You know what I'm saying?
17:58Custom tattoo right here.
17:59That's custom?
18:00I don't know what that is.
18:02Hold on.
18:02Let me see that hair right there real quick.
18:04That hair pretty clean, though.
18:06Hell yeah.
18:08I blacked out the whole South Side across his whole back.
18:11The whole back.
18:12Marked it off.
18:14That's nice-ass work.
18:17I'm a real-ass in the South, cuz.
18:22You better ask about me.
18:23I'm VDA.
18:25While I'm marking it off, he's complaining, begging me to stop, telling me to stop.
18:31It's painful, right?
18:31Yeah.
18:32He's telling me it's painful.
18:33Me and my state of mind, I'm not worried about how you feel.
18:38I'm worried about how you made me feel.
18:39Right.
18:40So you made me feel bad, so guess what I'm going to do?
18:42It's supposed to be painful.
18:43He didn't tell me it hurt, so I pick it up, stab it back down, stab it back down.
18:47Jerk it around, making it as painful as I can for him.
18:50Do it a little soft.
18:52You didn't say do it soft.
18:53What the hell?
18:53Do it soft?
18:54F***ing hurt.
18:55Yeah?
18:56Ow.
18:58Ow.
18:59Ain't my bad.
19:00I'm not a professional tattooer.
19:02Punishment fit the crime?
19:03Uh, at the time being.
19:05You advise him to keep it 100 so this don't happen to you for future references.
19:11Hey, look, for future references, keep it 100.
19:15This s*** don't happen to you.
19:18Right.
19:18You talking to him, kind of messing with his head at this point?
19:21Or is this just to underscore the punishment, the humiliation?
19:28I mean, I guess you could say a little bit of both.
19:31Like, I'm trying to add to the punishment at the same time letting him know, like, you did this to yourself.
19:37This is what happens when you try to play with people.
19:39Like, you don't touch fire and expect not to get burned.
19:43He looks totally defenseless.
19:46Did he resist at all?
19:48No.
19:48No.
19:50He must have been terrified.
19:53My goal is to embarrass you.
19:55My goal is to make you suffer.
19:56My goal is for pain.
19:59But Delgadillo's torment didn't stop there.
20:02He then made a call to his supplier, Justin Salinas, a drug dealer rumored to have ties to Mexican cartels.
20:09So it ain't over.
20:10Now it's early morning.
20:12You make a phone call to Mr. Salinas, right?
20:16What's that conversation like?
20:18I mean, it wasn't too much, too much to that car.
20:21I just called him, updated him.
20:22Was he upset?
20:23As upset as you were?
20:24For sure.
20:25Turns out Salinas had fronted the drugs Eunice stole from Delgadillo.
20:30So he's making not just you look bad, but Mr. Salinas too.
20:34Yeah.
20:35So I had kind of picked up the phone.
20:38Hey, you remember you sent him to me?
20:39This is what he did.
20:40He tried it again.
20:41He did this, did that.
20:42So this is where I'm at.
20:43By choosing to call in Salinas, Delgadillo was setting Eunice up for even more violence.
20:49Why him, of all people?
20:51Because it seems like more than likely it was going to be more trouble if he's involved.
20:58I mean, I don't know.
20:59If I'm being honest, it's just, you know, it just seemed like he was in my circle.
21:06So he seemed like he was one of the people to go to.
21:09It seems like you knew or should have known.
21:13What was going to happen.
21:14That, yeah, if you alert him, right?
21:17Mm-hmm.
21:18I mean, you must have known that if he's coming out, it's going to be hell to pay for Eunice.
21:25Yeah.
21:26Right?
21:27Yeah.
21:27Was there a point that you all decided you were going to take his life or what he had done?
21:33Do it soft?
21:45F***ing.
21:46Yeah?
21:47After torturing Eunice Alhassaniani with a tattoo gun over a drug debt, Benjamin Delgadillo then called in the big guns.
21:55Three more drug dealers arrived armed to the teeth.
21:58One of them, according to the record, is openly carrying an AK-47 of some kind.
22:05Yeah.
22:06He walks into the apartment with it.
22:08Yeah.
22:09So now you've got four men armed, right?
22:18Pissed off.
22:20Yeah.
22:21Aggrieved and ready to act.
22:25You guys tell Eunice he's going for a ride home.
22:31Delgadillo says Salinas then confronted Eunice, painting a scene straight out of a gangster movie.
22:38Yeah.
22:39Before that, they talked, though.
22:41Like, they had, uh, Juju had sat down.
22:43Did you hear that conversation?
22:44He just sat down in front of him, started talking to him, telling him why he messed up.
22:49And, uh, why, like, certain things had to happen.
22:54By way of reprimand.
22:56I mean, like, at that point, uh, we didn't really just outright say what was going to happen.
23:01Nobody really just knew what was going to happen, but everybody had an idea.
23:05So, uh...
23:07Everybody had an idea, including Eunice, who pleaded for his life.
23:11What was he saying? Do you remember?
23:13He was just kind of really just throwing it out there, like, hey, man, just let me make it, let me make it.
23:19Go ahead, just, y'all ain't even got to do nothing.
23:21Just open the door.
23:22Let me, let me walk out, just, I ain't going to tell nobody nothing.
23:25I ain't, it's, it's over with.
23:26So, Salinas tells him, how did you put it?
23:31Uh, we came to let you make it.
23:33Make it, meaning walk away.
23:35Yeah.
23:35Okay, now, if armed drug dealers tell somebody, we're going to take you for a ride home.
23:46Yeah.
23:46And, you know, that person has just stolen drugs.
23:52Yeah.
23:53It sounds like that means you're dead.
23:57Yeah.
23:59Is that fair? Is that right?
24:01Yeah.
24:01By then, the tattoo party was over, and Eunice was dragged from the apartment by Delgadillo,
24:09Justin Salinas, also known as Juju, and two other men.
24:13Erica says, whatever y'all going to do, don't do it here.
24:16You remember that?
24:18No.
24:18Mm-hmm.
24:19And so you're walking out to the car.
24:22Everybody gets in the car.
24:24Who's calling the shots now?
24:25Really, when we left that apartment, there wasn't really no talking.
24:32It was more silence.
24:34It was more actions.
24:35It was just more we knew what to do and what was going on.
24:39The less said, the better.
24:41Mm-hmm.
24:41What's the vibe in the car?
24:43You said no music, no talking.
24:45Yeah, just silence.
24:47And there's no clear destination?
24:50Mm-hmm.
24:50Kind of driving around.
24:52Mm-hmm.
24:52Was Eunice pleading his case at all?
24:55Mm-hmm, not really.
24:58No, just quiet.
24:59I mean, at the beginning, I don't think he understood what he was getting himself into
25:04when he got into that car until, like, ten minutes into that car ride.
25:11Because I do vaguely remember him telling us,
25:15hey, why y'all going this way?
25:17Y'all know I live this way.
25:18Where y'all da-da-da?
25:19That was the clue.
25:20Yeah, and nobody said nothing.
25:22No radio, no music, no nobody's talking.
25:24Do you think that he just accepted his fate at that point?
25:28I mean...
25:28Surrender?
25:29I guess he just realized there was really nothing he could do at that point, yeah.
25:33Finally, the car stops on the shoulder of the highway.
25:36What happens next?
25:37Um, Juju hops out first.
25:43Uh, Eunice hops out.
25:44I'm in the backseat with him.
25:46Um, as soon as he hops out, he tries to walk off.
25:49Tries to walk off.
25:50Um, he gets shot.
25:54Uh, he got shot, uh, I forgot.
25:56I think they said he got shot in the throat.
25:57In the neck?
25:58Yeah, something like that.
25:59Uh...
25:59So, you heard the gunshot?
26:02Yeah.
26:03Did you see the gunshot?
26:04Yeah.
26:05You did?
26:05Mm-hmm.
26:06I wasn't looking at him.
26:07I was looking more at the gun.
26:09And I seen just...
26:10Boom.
26:11Burn off.
26:12Boom.
26:12What started with torture had escalated to murder.
26:16Delgadillo says it was Salinas who pulled the trigger,
26:19but murder charges against Salinas would later be dropped.
26:22What was your state of mind at that point?
26:26What were you thinking at that point?
26:29If I'm being honest, the only thing I was thinking about
26:31at that exact moment was just getting out of there.
26:35Flee.
26:36Flee the scene.
26:37I wasn't thinking about nothing else, if I'm being honest.
26:39Okay.
26:40You weren't feeling any...
26:42any remorse, any regret, any sympathy?
26:46Mm-mm.
26:47If I'm being honest, no.
26:48Yes.
26:50Funas' body was left in a drainage ditch
26:53on the side of the highway.
26:58Before long, Delgadillo's name was on the lead detective's radar,
27:01and a police interrogation would blow the investigation wide open.
27:06They came in carrying something.
27:08What they had in their hands?
27:09They had it, it's all right.
27:10Yeah.
27:11What'd you have?
27:12I had a business.
27:14You made a lot of strange decisions afterwards,
27:17interacting with law enforcement and the courts.
27:20I mean, yeah.
27:21Yeah, there's a lot of things I wish I would've done differently.
27:24The code of the street that led to Eunice's murder
27:27would once again come into play.
27:29Only this time, it would be Delgadillo breaking the rules.
27:33You did it to yourself.
27:34Yeah.
27:35Finally naming your accomplices one by one, right?
27:39What did they do?
27:41Yes.
27:42Who did they?
27:44Just a shot.
27:45So right here is the area where we found the blood splatter.
27:58You can see the blood come onto the guardrail,
28:01and there was actually a large pooling of blood
28:04that had been dried sitting right here on the other side of the guardrail.
28:07Detective Justin Coffey of the Euless Police Department
28:10got the call to investigate the discovery of a young man's body
28:15on the side of a Texas highway.
28:18TxDOT workers were doing bridge inspections that day,
28:21and they located a body in the ditch off of the service road.
28:27I was just asked to get there.
28:29The body belonged to 22-year-old Eunice Alhasiniani.
28:33A witness then came forward and reported seeing a suspicious white Dodge Challenger
28:38on the night of the murder.
28:40One of our witnesses actually was entering the freeway here at this entrance ramp.
28:46She was able to look down this service road
28:48and see a white Challenger parked at the barrier.
28:51That's when she saw the item being thrown from the vehicle later determined to be a body.
28:57We believe that Challenger would have been parked exactly right here where my truck is parked,
29:06and Eunice was shot here at this location
29:09and probably fell back across the guardrail.
29:14Leads poured in from Eunice's family,
29:16and eventually the phone number for a drug dealer known as Puppet.
29:20Police traced the phone to Benjamin Delgadillo,
29:24and he was brought in for questioning.
29:27Can I just introduce myself?
29:28No.
29:28Okay.
29:29My name's Detective Coffey with the Eulice Police Department,
29:31and here you're talking about some stuff going on at your house right now.
29:37When I looked through his social media, he seemed like a pretty bad, pretty bad man.
29:42He, you know, a lot of photographs with guns,
29:45a lot of talk about being Ag Town's Grim Reaper.
29:49Trying to say you are Ag Town's Grim Reaper.
29:52When I walked in that interview room,
29:56I really thought that Benjamin was going to give me the metal finger.
29:59I figured he was going to come in there and say,
30:00I'm not going to say a word.
30:02Just my surprise, Benjamin had no issues talking to me at all.
30:06Delgadillo did the one thing his gang forbids when confronted by the cops.
30:29He squealed.
30:30First, he confessed to torturing Eunice with the tattoo gun.
30:34And so where did the Southside beat come out?
30:39Because he had Southside tattooed on.
30:41Yeah.
30:41I'm Southside too, but it just, it was just,
30:45I guess it was in the moment, you know what I'm saying?
30:48I'm mad.
30:48I don't know what else to do, so I'm getting a tattoo on.
30:52Can I be honest with you?
30:54When I watched that video,
30:56of you taking that tattoo gun and scratches tattooed out,
31:00that was killing.
31:00I saw a monster right there.
31:04Not who I see right in front of me right now.
31:06I saw someone that was very angry.
31:09Very pissed off.
31:11I mean, that's very personal.
31:13You set out to embarrass him, to torture him, to humiliate him.
31:19And I think you did that.
31:20And he was scared.
31:22He didn't even raise up to you.
31:24He submitted to everything you said.
31:26Yes, sir.
31:27Right?
31:27Is that fair to say?
31:28Yes, sir.
31:29Okay.
31:29Do it south?
31:31This hurts.
31:32Yeah?
31:32No.
31:33Shh.
31:33Shh.
31:34No.
31:35Hey, my bad.
31:36Have you watched that video yourself?
31:38Never seen it.
31:39You've never seen it?
31:40Never seen it.
31:41Oh.
31:41I guess it was just my anger.
31:43Kept building up, building up, building up,
31:45and then that's just what led to it.
31:47Were you more angry when you finished the torture
31:52than you were when you started it?
31:54I would say, yeah, because now that I had actually had did what I had did,
32:01I'm already mad now.
32:03Now I'm mad.
32:05At first, I was trying not to get mad.
32:07So, you know, I'm not mad.
32:09I'm trying not to get mad.
32:10But now that I actually am mad, and I'm mad,
32:14now, like, what I'm going to do now that I'm mad?
32:16The switch is flipped.
32:17Yeah, so now there's no way to unflip it.
32:20Right, right.
32:21Because you could have stopped after the torture session.
32:25Yeah.
32:26That act, that torture,
32:28started a kind of momentum of violence, it seems.
32:32Like, it builds and builds.
32:35And then the way that violence begets violence,
32:38and it seemed to start when you put him on the table and tortured him.
32:43Is that fair, Benjamin?
32:46I guess you could say that, yeah.
32:48Then Delgadillo violated the same street code he blames Eunice for breaking,
32:53and snitched.
32:58It's Justin?
32:59Yeah.
33:00Okay.
33:01Who is Justin with?
33:03Adrian.
33:04What's your last name?
33:06Brothers.
33:07Brothers?
33:08Yes, I do.
33:09Okay.
33:10What did they do?
33:11They showed.
33:12Who did they?
33:14Justin Sean?
33:15So that's Justin.
33:17Justin Salinas 10.
33:18Yes, sir.
33:19Juju.
33:20Yes, sir.
33:21And he had a Glock pistol,
33:23and you saw him
33:25shoot you up.
33:29Yes, sir.
33:31And wasn't you?
33:32It wasn't you.
33:35Was there a point
33:36that you all decided you were going to take his life for what he had done?
33:42Was it just understood that that had to happen?
33:45I guess you could say that.
33:47It wasn't really no huddle up, no, hey, let's talk about this.
33:52Hey, this is what we're going to do.
33:53It wasn't, no, it was just, I, we seen how he was moving, he was moving.
33:58It wasn't really no words, no discussion.
34:00It was just, I, I guess it's always still, this is what's going to happen.
34:03Delgadillo still denies pulling the trigger that killed Eunice Al-Hasinyani,
34:08but he admits to being the one who sealed the young addict's fate.
34:12So, torture, torment, murder.
34:16It appears to be a straight line,
34:20started by you,
34:22this momentum,
34:24escalated by the other armed men
34:26who you called in,
34:28right?
34:30Wasn't this all set in motion by you, Benjamin?
34:35Yeah, I mean, you, you could say that.
34:37I mean, in a way, I, I, I know I, I'm, I'm really,
34:39just the, the start and, and the cause of all this.
34:42For the man who created the violent momentum that night,
34:46justice would be swift and harsh.
34:49You made a lot of strange decisions afterwards,
34:52interacting with law enforcement and, and the courts.
34:55I mean, yeah, yeah.
34:56There's a lot of things I would, I wish I would've done differently.
34:59Such as what?
35:01Really, I wish I would've just went from the start of my whole,
35:04my whole case.
35:06But it just started off different the whole,
35:10the whole way through.
35:12Really.
35:13Cause.
35:14Not talking?
35:15Yeah, I placed my, I, I, I, I, once I did that,
35:18placed myself on the scene, placed myself everywhere.
35:20It was, I handed myself a license.
35:23You did it to yourself?
35:25Yeah.
35:26Once he was actually in county jail,
35:28I think he began looking really long and hard
35:31about his role as a snitch.
35:34People who, who snitch in jail,
35:37people don't look at him very favorably.
35:39And he's going to have to live with these people for a long time.
35:46He ultimately did not testify at all.
35:48He took a deal with the DA's office.
35:50He opted to take 50 years rather than testify against his co-defendants.
35:58In that interrogation,
36:00you mixed a bunch of half-truths with lies,
36:02finally naming your accomplices one by one, right,
36:06to detectives.
36:07And then you refused to testify, right?
36:10Yeah.
36:11Why?
36:11Why did you refuse to testify?
36:14I mean, there's, there's just,
36:17you don't do that.
36:18I mean.
36:19By the code.
36:20Even if privately with detectives,
36:21you've already essentially snitched.
36:25I mean, yeah, like, I ain't finna,
36:27yeah, that's just something, mm-mm.
36:29They told you that would cost you more years
36:31if you didn't testify?
36:34Oh, yeah, they told me if I got,
36:35if I testified,
36:36they had time reduction, time this time,
36:40give me, like, 20 years,
36:42something like that, man.
36:45So, I'm good.
36:46Can't do that.
36:46Can't do it.
36:47You're in here doing 50 years
36:50for your part in this crime, right?
36:54Far more than anyone else implicated in the case.
36:57Mm-hmm.
36:57Right?
36:58Do you feel like you took the fall for this murder?
37:03Mm-hmm.
37:04I mean,
37:04I mean, it all plays,
37:08it all plays out, like,
37:10I don't really necessarily say I took the fall,
37:14but I guess I'm just the one who got stuck with it.
37:17I guess we could say that.
37:20Better ask about me.
37:21I'm VDA.
37:23You said you knew the difference
37:25between right and wrong.
37:26Mm-hmm.
37:27Kill a man for acting like a junkie
37:30when you the one turned him into a junkie.
37:33How do you account for that?
37:34What the f*** hurt?
37:43Yeah?
37:44Ow.
37:44Shh.
37:45Shh.
37:45Ow.
37:47What began as a sadistic punishment over a drug theft
37:51ended in the brutal murder of a young addict by his dealer.
37:55You know, one of the things that separates criminal life from normal people
38:01Mm-hmm.
38:01Is how cheap life can be, right?
38:05Mm-hmm.
38:05It seems to me that he was acting when he took your drugs,
38:11just like a junkie.
38:13Mm-hmm.
38:14And you all helped turn him into that junkie.
38:19Mm-hmm.
38:20So then, once he acts like the junkie that you turned him into,
38:24you have to punish him, you have to kill him?
38:26I mean, for a few hundred bucks?
38:29And to maintain your image?
38:33Mm-hmm.
38:34Yeah.
38:35See, I grew up selling dope, hitting licks, stuff like that,
38:40because my mama grew up struggling, single parent.
38:45So now that's wrong for me trying to help my mama, which is right.
38:49But what I'm doing is wrong.
38:51Right.
38:51So y'all lock me up.
38:53Delgadillo may now be locked up until he's in his 70s,
38:57far longer than the man he says actually shot Eunice, Justin Salinas.
39:01Ultimately, the state dropped all charges against Salinas,
39:05who was at the time convicted in an unrelated federal drug trafficking case
39:09and sentenced to 30 years in prison.
39:12Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger,
39:14Delgadillo now takes responsibility for the murder.
39:18There is some poetic justice in your sentence in that,
39:22you know, none of this would have happened,
39:24at least that night, the way it happened,
39:27but for you.
39:29Mm-hmm.
39:29Right?
39:30Eunice was on his own downward spiral,
39:34but he wouldn't have been murdered that night
39:37if you didn't set in motion this chain of events,
39:40this momentum of violence.
39:42Mm-hmm.
39:43It was you who sealed Eunice's fate that night.
39:46Mm-hmm.
39:46You accept responsibility for that?
39:48I accepted my consequences.
39:52That's why I be speaking kind of the way I speak.
39:54I'm not really messed up about my situation
39:58because the whole situation happened because of me.
40:03So you accept this?
40:04I mean, I know what I did was bad, really bad, like,
40:08but I still don't feel that 50 is acceptable for what I did.
40:13Like, 20, 30, give me something I can do.
40:17Like, I caught this case when I was 20, 21.
40:21Like, nobody really thinks they're right state of mind,
40:23especially doing drugs and this lifestyle.
40:26You young.
40:27You f***ed up.
40:28You mess up.
40:29I just want a second chance.
40:31Just give me a chance.
40:32Something.
40:33Like, I can show you better than I can tell you.
40:34Like, that old peasy, old Benji, me,
40:38that's not me no more.
40:40Why should we believe that?
40:43I mean, it's not really, like, I tell a lot of people,
40:48I ain't really gonna tell you to believe me.
40:50I'm gonna show you.
40:51Do you have true remorse in your heart for Eunice and his family?
40:57If you would ask me truthfully if I would do anything different,
41:00I told you I can't say I would do anything different,
41:03but I do regret and I do feel bad for him passing away and dying.
41:08That was never really my intention,
41:10but it was really never meant to go that far.
41:13You got 50 years.
41:15Eunice's family got a life sentence.
41:17Yeah.
41:18Right?
41:18Yeah.
41:19Imagine how his mother feels every time the birthday comes around,
41:23every time the holidays comes around.
41:26How would your mother feel?
41:28I mean, I ain't a lot.
41:29Like I said, I've thought about that.
41:31Like, I did a lot of seg time, too.
41:34So, you know, I had a lot of time by myself,
41:37in my cell to think about this.
41:38So, I thought about my case.
41:40I thought about what if it was me instead, not him.
41:43Like, how my mama would feel, how my family would feel about this.
41:47That ain't no good feeling.
41:48Of course, Eunice Alhassan Yanni's family is devastated by his violent loss.
41:54They tried everything to help him rid himself of the drugs
41:57and dealers like Delgadillo.
41:59They tried hard, it sounds like, to save that man from himself
42:02and from you.
42:05Yeah.
42:05From y'all.
42:07Yeah.
42:08His mother showed up after you all kidnapped him.
42:11Did you know that?
42:12Mm-mm.
42:13That's how desperate she was to save him.
42:16The morning of the murder,
42:20the victim's mother and other family members
42:22mounted a rescue effort of their own,
42:24starting at his last known location.
42:27Eunice's mother forced her way into the apartment
42:29to check herself and didn't find Eunice there at all.
42:32She knew her son would always call her,
42:36always talk to her,
42:37and she hadn't heard anything from him.
42:39So, she was pretty persistent.
42:40Her other family members continued looking for Eunice.
42:47But to his mother's eternal grief, it was too late.
42:5122-year-old Eunice Alhassan Yanni was already dead.
42:56A young son had been taken from her
42:58by the very men who fed, and fed off of, his addiction.
43:11Ooh.
43:12Ooh.
43:12Ooh.
43:12Ooh.
43:13Ooh.
43:13Ooh.
43:14Ooh.
43:14Ooh.
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