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00:01The following program documents a real homicide case.
00:04The investigation, the pursuit of justice, and the lasting impact on the loved ones left behind.
00:14We got a tentative count of six wounds to her body.
00:18There's a lot of anger there.
00:20This is a violent death.
00:23We're gonna give it every ounce of the respect that she deserves.
00:27Her life matters.
00:29For those most affected by a homicide.
00:31I searched my heart to see who would have done this to my mom.
00:35It had to have been somebody that she knew.
00:38The first 48 is just the beginning.
00:41This is not a typical homicide case.
00:43Is that blood on the floor here too?
00:45Do we have another victim here?
00:47Is he dead?
00:48And I'm like, oh my God.
00:50It's just like light bulb.
00:52Come out with your hands off.
00:53Is he gonna have a weapon?
00:55The defense was gonna try to paint Ms. Campbell as a very violent aggressor.
01:02It was either him or her.
01:04So we had a very viable self-defense claim.
01:07If they were successful, we knew that he would be acquitted.
01:10This is the story of the fight for justice.
01:13In the weeks, months, and years.
01:17I miss her so much.
01:19After the first 48.
01:24I miss her.
01:25One week.
01:26The Ma j 같아 late.
01:27I miss her.
01:28Timeí•™ist.
01:29I miss her.
01:30I miss her effort.
01:31I miss my Dad.
01:33One night she's real and beyond.
01:37In the Treme neighborhood.
01:38Moha please hello?
01:43Yeah but it is lying alive.
01:45She's full of blood.
01:47First responders race to the scene.
01:49but it is too late.
01:52When you're up for a homicide, you're kind of on edge, you're just waiting for that bell
02:09to ring.
02:11And when that bell rings, it's go time.
02:15My daddy worked in homicide.
02:17This to me is a career, it's not a job.
02:20And it is a calling.
02:27Is your stabbing him?
02:32Find the ID.
02:35Fanny Campbell.
02:39Fanny was 58 years old and worked as a cook in the Treme neighborhood.
02:45She leaves behind two daughters and a grandson.
02:50Everyone's life matters.
02:52She did not deserve to be murdered to death that morning.
02:56Like her life has value.
02:58That's why my job is to solve this crime.
03:01Her throat's cut.
03:04That's probably the fatal one there.
03:08She got a tentative count of six wounds to her body on the side of her neck.
03:15One above her breast.
03:17The front of each shoulder.
03:19She has two puncture wounds to her abdomen.
03:24There's a lot of anger there to actually stab somebody that many times.
03:29This is a violent death that she endured.
03:34You know that it's up close and personal.
03:38She had defensive wounds.
03:40Obviously, she was in some kind of struggle with her attacker as she was being stabbed.
03:46So, who, what, when, where, why this happened?
03:49All these answers, we don't know.
03:52It was just, uh, kind of like an atypical crime scene.
03:56I'll take the big picture first and then start moving in smaller and smaller.
04:01Perfume.
04:02Got some peppermint candies.
04:11It could have been a robbery that went wrong.
04:15But a woman stabbed to death, we leaned towards domestic.
04:18But, you know, no one heard any screaming or any fighting.
04:22And then the white sheet is very uncharacteristic of something happening there.
04:26Which kind of started making us lean more towards her body.
04:29It was actually discarded there and the crime happened somewhere else.
04:32And that was our starting point.
04:36This is gonna be an old-fashioned whodunit.
04:39Five hours in.
04:47I'm going to do a criminal history check.
04:50I needed to get an understanding of who my victim was.
04:57His prior convictions only for cocaine.
05:01Looks like her last arrest was in April of this year for aggravated battery.
05:06We found some things in Fanny's past.
05:09But that didn't change the fact that me and Rob were gonna run on that case.
05:13And give it every ounce of the respect that she deserved.
05:22This is Detective Ward.
05:23Yes, ma'am.
05:27Sorry about your mama.
05:29Fanny's daughter just learned from the coroner's office that her mother was violently murdered.
05:34When I got the phone call that Fanny was found dead, literally my toenails caught a fire.
05:41I screamed from the pits of hell to heaven gates because I couldn't understand.
05:46I was just with her.
05:49And she was going just like that.
05:53That is a day I'll never forget.
05:55My life changed completely.
05:57If it's okay with you, me and my partner, we'd like to come over and talk to you.
06:01All right.
06:04She may have some insight as to what's going on.
06:10We meet people on their worst day.
06:12The investigation is still new right now.
06:15When the detectives came to my house, I searched my heart to see who would have done this to my mom.
06:25We're trying to find out anything we can about your mom, about her history.
06:29I can give it to you.
06:31She gave me up for adoption.
06:32I found her at 16.
06:34She's been rough her whole life.
06:36I'm not ashamed to say my mama did drugs.
06:38Right.
06:39Because she left me with a good life.
06:40So I can't see nothing bad about my mom.
06:44I'm grateful to her because I didn't have to go through the struggle.
06:49I wasn't out there with her addictions.
06:51I was adopted from 29 days old.
06:55And when I was introduced to Fannie, we didn't rekindle pain.
07:00We brought laughter and happiness to each other.
07:03She was just living her life.
07:05But it was snatched.
07:07Was she stabbed and shot saved?
07:09No, ma'am. She was just stabbed, but she was stabbed several times.
07:12There was a brutal stabbing?
07:14Yes, ma'am.
07:15Somebody who had some anger in her heart.
07:18Listen to me and listen to me good.
07:19My mama wasn't the type of woman that you can just fight her and get away with.
07:25She used to carry a razor blade under her tongue.
07:28She's not scared.
07:29It had to have been somebody that she knew to get that close upon her to do that much damage to.
07:35And that's why I want to ask you if there's anybody that you suspect of who might have done her.
07:41So that's when I told them I knew it couldn't have been nobody but him.
07:46To be honest with you from my gut,
07:47the only person that really would want my mama hurt like that would be Tom.
07:53Tom Seaborn Gibson was my mom's boyfriend of 30 plus years.
07:59My mama was a beautiful spirit so she would gravitate to everybody.
08:04And he didn't like that.
08:06Tom was a very controlling person.
08:07Like this old little man, he didn't want nobody to have his family.
08:12He's old. Is he capable of this, you think?
08:14That's the only person I could see.
08:17Looking at the violent nature of her death, I'm not thinking that someone of that age could have been responsible.
08:24She's got a history of drugs, so it could have been a whole different person that stabbed Fanny.
08:30We needed to find out more.
08:32When was the last time you went to the house on St. Phillip?
08:34I talked to Tom and everything was all good.
08:37He said, your mama crazy. She said he's crazy. He'd be hiding that age.
08:41And then it was back and forth.
08:43There was a history of domestic violence, which doesn't mean he killed her, but it's a possible motive.
08:48What is Tom drawing? Is it a car?
08:51The tower is black with rims. F-150 is burgundy.
08:55Burgundy F-150.
08:57And he just hasn't called you or nothing like that?
08:59Haven't called me, haven't told me nothing.
09:03Tom could be the guy.
09:05We have to explore him further now, because that's the only name we have at this point.
09:09Man.
09:12Do I have pictures of her?
09:19She looks different than his.
09:25You're going to have that one.
09:27It was a booking photo.
09:29I certainly wasn't going to deny her that opportunity to have that photo of her mama.
09:37It's all right.
09:42Your common law wife for 30 years is dead.
09:45If everybody else knows it, I'm sure he knows it.
09:49Me and Rob thought it was suspicious that Sibon hadn't reached out to Danielle.
09:54We needed to figure out why. We needed to figure out pretty quick.
09:58We're making Fanny's famous fried pork chops.
10:07She was just so full of life.
10:10Made me smile.
10:11Kept me going.
10:13Kept me to where I wanted to be.
10:14Just like her.
10:15So, I'm making what I know she would love.
10:18Chops.
10:20We live in a world where everyone judges, but not my mom. She didn't.
10:25Me coming out in 1996 out of the closet, my mom was my best friend for that. She said,
10:27Baby, God don't judge, so how can I judge?
10:28That was the most important thing for me in the world.
10:29To be whatever I wanted to be.
10:30what I know she would love, Chops.
10:34We live in a world where everyone judges, but not mama.
10:37She didn't.
10:38Me coming out in 1996 out of the closet,
10:44my mom was my best friend for that.
10:45She said, baby, God don't judge, so how can I judge?
10:50That was the most important thing for me in the world.
10:54To be whatever I wanted to be, we're going to do a test.
10:58Look at it, ain't that pretty?
11:00Mm-hmm.
11:03Even though my mother had her own struggles,
11:06she was still my mother and a human being.
11:10Well, mama, we get to eat a pool chop together.
11:14Oh, listen to that.
11:17Ooh-wee.
11:24That's good eating right there.
11:26This was the last time that we actually hung out together.
11:28And she told me, she said, baby, this is on and up again.
11:35Who would have known that that meant this is the last time?
11:43I miss your mama.
11:45How far away is the house from the family?
12:03Four or five blocks.
12:06That's a pretty big clue that they live together.
12:09And you know, the closer the scene.
12:12Eight hours since Fanny was killed.
12:15Fanny had been in a tumultuous, violent relationship
12:20for over 23 years with a guy that you've
12:23got to follow up on at that point.
12:27There's a Tahoe with rims.
12:28There it is.
12:29And two trucks.
12:30All right.
12:31He's home.
12:31He's home, dude.
12:33Let's look at his car, dude.
12:34Yep.
12:34So get into the apartment.
12:35We see Seabon's vehicles.
12:43Several Peppermint's in the back of his truck.
12:48We located Peppermint on the scene.
12:50Sometimes in an investigation, you get little hints.
12:53And I felt like I was in the right direction.
12:57See the blood back here.
13:04Seabon lived upstairs, and we're looking at this locked gate.
13:10Like, the only way in there is up.
13:13You think I'm climbing that fence?
13:14I'm climbing the fence.
13:15There's no way I'm climbing that fence.
13:16You can climb the fence.
13:17I enjoy suppertime too much to climb that fence.
13:21Get it?
13:25Get it?
13:32It's very dark.
13:33I see, like, a broken pane of glass.
13:40We don't know if, like, did the crime happen here?
13:43Is Tom a victim?
13:44Is Tom OK?
13:45Huh?
13:46I think it's blowing before.
13:47Back out.
13:48On the floors, there's, like, dark droplets.
13:52Not a lot, but a few.
13:54So I would definitely get a search warrant for this place.
14:02It was a rush.
14:03It was exciting knowing that we possibly found the initial crime scene when this crime actually
14:09occurred.
14:1311 hours in.
14:15While I was typing the warrant for his residence, Rob was looking up Seabon.
14:20Seabon Tom Gibson is a retired truck driver who's lived in New Orleans for over 50 years.
14:28He's 75 years old.
14:31Had parole for attempted secondary murder, 95, 97.
14:34So he has aggravated burglary, 93, theft.
14:41Just looking at him and his age, it just didn't register that he was our perpetrator.
14:47What's the chances, though, of a 75-year-old man overpowering and killing the victim?
14:54Do you think this man could drag her down the steps and put her in a truck and don't?
14:58Do you think he's got the strength to do that?
14:59I don't know.
15:00I don't know.
15:01I don't know.
15:02We had three options.
15:04A, Seabon did it.
15:06He killed Fanny.
15:07He somehow got her in this truck, got her to this field, and he's our guy.
15:11B, he killed Fanny, and then maybe he killed himself, or C, do we have another victim here?
15:19Is he dead?
15:20This is weird.
15:21We'll see what happens, man.
15:22See what's in that house.
15:23The whole vehicle's still there.
15:28Bearer finds Tom's landlord.
15:50At that point, we didn't know what we were going to find.
15:56I just need a couple of units to help me and my partner conduct a search.
16:07Can you raise crime-led unit for me?
16:15He's alive, but I couldn't see his hands.
16:20Come out.
16:21Come out with your hands up.
16:22It was pretty tense.
16:23I'm trying to get him out, because is he going to have a weapon?
16:26Come out.
16:27Come out with your hands up.
16:28I couldn't see his hands.
16:29And then you're starting to think, hey, what's really going on here?
16:42Come on.
16:43Come out here.
16:44Come out here.
16:45Come out here.
16:46Come out with your hands up.
16:47Do you have any weapons on you, Tom?
16:48Do you have any weapons on you, Tom?
16:49Do you have any weapons on you?
16:51No.
16:52All right.
16:53All right.
16:54All right.
16:55All right.
16:56All right.
16:57All right.
16:58All right.
16:59All right.
17:00All right.
17:01All right.
17:02All right.
17:03All right.
17:04All right.
17:05You can pretty much barely walk.
17:07You can pretty much barely walk.
17:08Was Tom capable of committing this crime?
17:10You're going to step right there.
17:11You're going to step right there.
17:12I'm going to step right there.
17:13You're going to step right there.
17:14You're going to step right there, please?
17:15You okay?
17:16Oh.
17:17hands when they come out because it's the hands that can hurt you have it to your hand man
17:28when you're involved in a violent encounter like a stabbing a lot of times a perpetrator
17:31cuts himself can we go up to headquarters and talk okay he was not under arrest at this point
17:38i didn't want to make him think that i believed he was my prime suspect
17:42i had a theory so let him ride in the front seat with me up the headquarters i stayed behind and
17:49do the search and the processing of the crime scene it was really important for me to get him to trust
18:01me enough because i need this man to give me information can you tell me about um what you've
18:09been doing all day i've been home all day okay well you have a living girlfriend or wife what's her
18:17name fanny camera when was the last time you spoke to fanny uh friday evening i think it was my tree
18:32that was two days ago i'm thinking no no way fanny hadn't been out in that field since friday
18:39those injuries were fresh well i i hate to be the bearer of bad news but fanny is deceased
18:44hi
18:45i said bro i tell that girl anytime i said fanny you know you ain't got no business in that tree
18:55that day somebody gonna hurt you sooner or later he tried to project that her lifestyle may have led to
19:02her death you didn't seem too concerned though that one put me through a lot of stuff
19:09i'm dead tonight fanny was a terrible one the c-bon is telling me his story of how he was a victim
19:18we're conducting a search warrant on your house right now okay we noticed there was some blood in there
19:24there can you explain that
19:36i was able to get him to tell me about the tussle but he constantly wanted to minimize his
19:42involvement in this what happened after that was home i don't know she left
19:47as long as he was talking to me i was happy i sat with that man for over three hours
19:53and i just wanted him talking because i knew rob was back at that apartment
19:57and i knew he was getting a better story
20:05it's a lot of blood dude just happened in here had to have everything pointed to that
20:11being the crime scene but i wanted to find the murder weapon how do you get it downstairs man
20:16there's only one way right you got it he's like 74 years old
20:25there's blood on this mattress
20:30now this room leads to the room
20:33that blow on the floor here too it forms a trail leading up the stairs
20:41this is not the typical homicide case this is more of a puzzle like an onion everything's kind of
20:45such unpeeling
20:52we found a peppermint it's on the roof and i'm like oh my god it's just like light bulb
21:02based on i guess the angle of the roof where his trucks parked the fact there's no blood going in the
21:07the main staircase i mean he got a sheet from the house rolled her up rolled her off the roof
21:12and that was it that's my theory
21:22then
21:22they're nice with the serrated edge with blood on it
21:36at that point we were pretty confident we found the murder weapon which is great that's rare
21:40the truck's ready to go i'll have a gatorade on the sideline and i'm going to come in fresh
21:46i can kind of go at him with actual physical evidence
21:51so uh what's his last story so i know where i'm going with this he says he went to a fight she left
21:57he hasn't seen or said okay we have a lot of evidence now to support that tom did this but what
22:02we don't have is tom confessing i needed that for me to be able to make that arrest i needed him
22:10to admit to it we searched your house and we found a lot of things at your house that
22:19contradict what you said we found the knife you have wounds in your hand that are basically
22:25indicative of that type of struggle conflict we found blood into adjoining room that lead to the roof
22:32no we don't have we don't have your story tommy we don't have the truth
22:37i'm screaming inside just say it just say it just say that you did this you can see him processing
22:45what i'm telling him there was no adamant like denials he's he's thinking how can i respond to
22:49this what do i say what happened last night think about it it could have been so traumatic it's kind
22:59of cloudy for you you want to give you a second to think about it we'll come back in yeah think about
23:05my last night think about everything i told you and we'll come back in about five minutes tom
23:12that's good
23:15let him smoke a cigarette dude get his mind straight and we'll go in again
23:20i'll say that as long as you want to go we'll go at him
23:22i think in that moment where we stepped out his mind's probably racing
23:29you're not going to interrupt that pause you're not going to interrupt that silence
23:33i know you thought about it let's talk about last night is he going to lawyer up or is he going to
23:50come off
24:0618 hours into the investigation it's intense it's an intense feeling and i'm watching this man and in
24:14my head it's just loudly saying come on man just tell the truth we were talking about while we were drinking
24:27we kept on arguing but i can't figure out how a knife came up in this issue
24:32and i was trying to take that knife from her it was very important that they found that knife because
24:52it was a crucial piece that rob could use to break down c bond's lies
24:57and what happened i guess she had she had got cut where she had cut in the chest after we had scuffed
25:09with that knife she wouldn't sit in that background
25:15i had went inside and sit down we got into it again
25:20at what point did she pass away she went to the end of that porch or something not really down there
25:31i had went back inside but when i come back again and she wasn't moving
25:35did you put her in something but there was i'm trying to take what that sheet i thought over
25:43we had a lot of evidence suggesting that tom did this
25:46but it's so much stronger when someone admits to doing something
25:49so we put a body on the truck how'd you get it down right off the roof in my truck
25:59back it up and get a roller and then went on where might be
26:03that that was amazing because we had our theory and then he filled those gaps in with a statement
26:08yeah i got my truck and left one brought in and dropped off
26:12and what happened then i left one on back home
26:15so i mopped her for a little blood and went on back in the bed went to sleep
26:22you know this girl don't threaten me so much i'd be scared to be around
26:26and it was a bit for one of us to go down i'll sit tight one second and we'll be right back with you
26:35he tried to make it a self-defense kind of thing but there were no tears i didn't see any sympathy
26:42sorrow remorse and just like this is what happened i didn't have sympathy for siobhan and i saw how
26:52many times she was stabbed how violently my sympathy was with danielle when i found out that time confessed
27:00i cried because now who can you trust someone you spend half of your life with can be the person that
27:09take your life siobhan gibson is charged with second degree murder and obstruction of justice i felt good
27:17but the work wasn't done at this point there's still a huge step that has to take place
27:23that anything can happen at trial we had the murder weapon we had dna evidence where the victim's blood
27:38was found in his residence and i felt like that would have quite an effect on the jury but there
27:44was a very real issue we were having to battle the defense wanted to exclude the evidence initially when
27:51rob hopped the fence he didn't have a warrant it was a locked fence which meant that you couldn't just
27:57go in when you're a criminal defense lawyer someone's life is on the line i believe that law
28:05enforcement in this case illegally entered into the property you need probable cause so i'd file the
28:11motion to suppress evidence so we set a hearing date if the judge granted the defense's motion
28:19we as the prosecutors would not have been allowed to use any of the evidence found within mr gibson's
28:24home that would have been the end of the case
28:32eight months after seabhan's arrest testimony begins at his hearing
28:39we argued that the stairwell is technically a common area of the department complex so since
28:44robber didn't enter the home of the defendant there was no fourth amendment violation
28:51the judge agrees we were definitely relieved that the physical evidence was ruled admissible
28:57unfortunately it didn't go our way for this case i knew we had challenges but i had a plan
29:02for each one i knew there was going to be an argument for self-defense and so i definitely wanted to
29:09try and explore the violent nature of their relationship first because i knew there was
29:15something more to the case she had previously attacked mr gibson two months before the actual
29:23incident took place here we have a violent offense from miss campbell as the perpetrator to mr gibson as
29:29the victim mr gibson been attacked she hit mr gibson over the head with a hammer she would have these
29:37moments of violence and explosive behavior mr gibson was a victim but this time mr gibson fought back
29:45the worst case scenario is that the jury is going to feel for the defendant
29:50the jury was going to see mr gibson as a victim and miss campbell as an aggressor and find mr gibson innocent
30:12i felt confident heading into trial because i felt as though the jury would sympathize with mr gibson
30:18he was in his mid 70s and he previously attacked him with a hammer we had a very viable self-defense
30:29a year after fanny's death a jury will hear the case against c bond gibson this was my first murder
30:37trial and it was nerve-wracking the stakes feel higher because i wanted to get justice for danielle
30:43my nerves was rallying i was queasy because i didn't know that i was going to be that close
30:51to tom after opening arguments it was very clear that the defense was going to try to paint miss
30:59campbell as a very violent aggressor the case was essentially going to be an attack on fanny but she
31:05wasn't going to be able to give her side of the story so we definitely needed to call somebody to
31:10humanize our victim and so we wanted to do that with danielle
31:17i wanted the jurors to see my mother as an individual not an aggressor
31:25not a drug user but as a human being she was a beautiful grandmother and a wonderful mother to me
31:36i feel like me telling my mom's story was her speaking for herself
31:44miss campbell had her own demons that she was battling throughout her life
31:47but that doesn't take away from the fact that she was the victim here
31:53i really wanted to show the jury that the way that fanny was treated it was so heinous and so brutal
32:01the medical examiner was able to show just how much damage fanny suffered but on cross-examination
32:09i questioned the medical examiner about victim's toxicology there was evidence that suggested that
32:15fanny had cocaine in her system and also alcohol we were concerned and a jury would hear this
32:22information and assume she's actually the violent aggressor and mr gibson is the victim it was either
32:29him or her and he tried to survive it definitely did go into the defense's theory that this isn't the
32:35first time she had a pending case for aggravated battery in which seabon gibson was the victim
32:42there was no way around it we had to face it head on i have here the original gist from the
32:48incident and this really just says that seabon gibson was the victim and that fanny campbell hit
32:56him in the head with a hammer but it actually says here in the report that she says mr gibson struck
33:02her in the face with a closed fist and that's when she retrieved the hammer just to break the window to
33:07try and unlock the door so even though fanny was the one who got arrested it probably should have been
33:12seabon it's always great when you can take the defense's evidence and use it to your own advantage
33:17it certainly took some sting out of our theory but i don't think the jury bought that
33:25on the second day of trial we were able to play the taped interview that the detectives did with mr
33:31gibson what's interesting is that the prosecution and the defense are going to see it from two very
33:37different angles obviously he doesn't want to tell us he just killed this woman in cold blood or
33:49whatever well now he's painted himself into a self-defense story so he's got to come up with
33:54an idea to make that seem sensible you know i do believe that he was telling the truth here and he
34:00was justified in doing what he did he comes off very credible sort of that grandpa nature of him
34:18how do you go to sleep after that dude like just nonchalant you go mop the blood up and i went to
34:22sleep i think it shows the callus of it you've been with this woman 30 years rolls her off the roof goes
34:29and hides the body comes back and just like in his own words go on about my business yeah that's cold
34:35man it is that is so cold it is storytelling there was such a tumultuous relationship between the two
34:46of them there's a powder keg ready to blow he lays it out there enough to where it aligns with the
34:53self-defense justification defense we felt confident that we had enough to plant a lot of
35:00doubt in the jury's mind for that murder charge it was really worrisome because there's a risk of a
35:06hung jury but even if they found that he was justified in killing her he definitely wasn't
35:12justified in moving her body throwing it off the roof and dumping it in that field he had to clean it up
35:19before they catch me so i gotta dot my eyes and cross my t's he missed a couple of eyes and didn't
35:28get all the t's the evidence was so strong in this case for obstruction there was no way a jury could
35:35not agree with that i remember the prosecutor turning to me saying what are you going to do about the
35:42obstruction charge and i remember just looking at him be like i have something something we as the
35:48prosecution had to be able to face head on and prepare for the defense attempted to use an
35:54intoxication defense claiming that mr gibson didn't understand the nature of his actions
36:00in louisiana there's a justification defense of intoxication but the issue with using that fence
36:08was that i had no evidence of it there weren't any drug screens or blood tests taken when mr
36:14gibson was apprehended so what i knew was going to come down to mr gibson's testimony we had to call
36:21mr gibson to the stand but anytime your client takes the stand it's high risk
36:28day two of c bond gibson's trial i was surprised to see mr gibson take the stand because he did seem
36:45like an unpredictable witness everything he says everything he doesn't say how he says it is going
36:54to be weighed significantly by the jury but i didn't have anything else in order to try and defend him
37:01from the charge of obstruction of justice so in order to get that evidence of intoxication out the only
37:06thing i had was mr gibson's memory it was beneficial to the defense case that as he walked to take the
37:15stand you could see that this was an elderly man and it is certainly a difficult argument to make that
37:22this is in fact a cold-blooded killer so i asked mr gibson were you intoxicated were you drunk at that
37:29time he says i was feeling pretty good i had drank enough to not know really what i'm doing then i asked
37:35him but when you realized that she had passed did you know what to do he said no i've never been into
37:40nothing like that i don't know nothing i was crazy myself i didn't know which way to go up or down
37:45he was acting delirious like he didn't know like he was incompetent he played pity the fool
37:56the defendant definitely created a perception of someone who didn't understand what was going on
38:01if they were successful with the intoxication defense we knew that he would be acquitted
38:05and so it created another hurdle for us but on the other hand we were thrilled to be able to question
38:13mr gibson because we get to question him on his past to kind of flip that narrative and show that
38:20it was in fact mr gibson that had this pattern in his history we went and got those old police reports
38:25from the 90s and found out that once again this is another domestic situation where he attempted to
38:30kill someone else that he was in a relationship with he has a prior conviction for attempted murder
38:35you actually say were you defending yourself or did you just try and kill that woman he says i wasn't
38:40trying to kill nobody and then you said why did you plead guilty to attempted murder and again he says he
38:47doesn't even remember right which is kind of like his theme throughout everything is if i don't remember
38:51it it didn't it didn't really happen
38:52the prosecutor opened old wounds that reveals the real c bond gibson you paint the she devil over
39:05here but look at you you won't get away this time but it was a tale of two stories and which story is
39:12the jury going to believe waiting for a verdict is gut-wrenching time kind of stands still i was
39:26getting shocked when my anxiety levels were brought through the roof and i prayed i said god i just want
39:32justice after seven hours of deliberation they were at a standstill all 12 members of the
39:42jury believed that mr gibson was guilty of something there were no votes for not guilty but they could
39:48not come to a decision between murder and manslaughter so ultimately that led to a hung jury no
39:59i couldn't understand it i couldn't grasp it because the evidence is right that clear as they
40:06but then the jury delivers their verdict on the second charge
40:13they found him guilty as charged of the obstruction which carried up to 40 years
40:18but the judge could have handed out a sentence of zero years and that would have been perfectly fine
40:22under the law i do remember the judge addressing the defendant
40:28he said you had no remorse for her her daughter or her grandchild so i have no remorse
40:41for how i'm going to sentence you
40:42he ended up giving mr gibson 27 years this is basically a life sentence
40:58and yet c bond could still be retried for murder we had the option of either bringing the case back to
41:05trial or resolving it with some type of plea agreement i didn't want to drag myself and my son
41:11through that paint so i took it i took a plea deal
41:15to give fanny peace i finally could breed again i got justice
41:22the domestic violence it has no gender has no race don't be afraid to reach out
41:37to speak in behalf of fanny elaine gamble we were able to give her some dignity
41:44her life mattered i think we did right by fanny
41:47this is where fanny from right here nine years after the trial if i want to come and feel fanny
42:00this is the spot where i come to right here on this corner right here from east where my mom was a
42:06wildflower she just had her way with people everybody knows fanny in this neighborhood hey
42:13haunted fights and everybody want to take a picture with her come in miss fanny how you doing
42:20miss fanny whatever she got to say on her mind it's gonna come out and this is fanny getting
42:25down a happy soul the charisma and as you can see it it's her character that's her character that's
42:32how she lived her life i still to this day can people ask me about fanny
42:38that's how she lived her life i miss her so much that's my fanny boo
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