Semien-Nimmo Trade Analysis: Impact on Mets and Rangers

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00:00We've got stove movement, man.

00:02Somebody turned on the burner, and it's clear that it's a gas stove

00:05and not electric.

00:06It's Marcus Semien for Brandon Nimmo.

00:08Nimmo, who was drafted by the Mets, heads to Arlington,

00:12and Semien goes to shore up the middle infield defensively for New York.

00:16So we'll talk about Nimmo and Semien.

00:21That's going to be the nickname of the trade.

00:23We're going to talk about that for the first half of the episode,

00:26and then some interesting non-tender guys that were not offered a contract

00:30on Friday.

00:32Also, my favorite thing in baseball is when people try to turn relievers

00:36into a starter, and maybe the funniest one happened this weekend.

00:39So we'll talk about that and a couple other things.

00:42But excited to get this show going with Nimmo and Semien.

00:46What was your initial reaction, I guess, when that trade went down?

00:51I felt like we were like kids again.

00:54I felt like these are the kind of trades you saw.

00:56You know, you and I are 27, 28 years old.

00:58Like, those are the trades we saw when we were 9, 10 years old.

01:03And kind of the end of that, of course, our parents,

01:06that's the only trades I saw.

01:07It wasn't as much of the prospect for player trades.

01:10But it's gotten so much.

01:11I think it's just we've drifted so far away where, you know,

01:15now if you're a team that's trading an established player,

01:17you're almost always going to want prospects.

01:19And teams don't want to exchange contracts very often because they're very

01:24particular about where they're allocating their money.

01:27So very rarely do we get big leaguer for big leaguer trades.

01:30That's one side of it.

01:31And if you do, maybe it's something like G-Rod for Taylor Ward,

01:34which was awesome.

01:34But then very, very rarely do you get established big leaguer on the other side

01:39of 30 with years left on his contract traded for established big leaguer on the

01:43other side of 30 with years left on his contract.

01:45So I just, I don't know.

01:47It just took me back to being a kid almost where it's just, I haven't,

01:51I can't think of the last time we had a trade like that,

01:54given the financial commitments, what these players have done in the past,

01:57in the Nimmo case, more so like what he meant to the franchise.

02:00And I love it.

02:01I love every bit of it because I think it just makes baseball a little bit more

02:06interesting for the casual fan.

02:07You know, they're not going to care as much about the prospect trades.

02:10And I get that.

02:11Um, but this is something that, you know, even if you, if this is the third sport

02:15you watch, like this is still going to be something that you're like, Whoa,

02:19that's, that's an interesting swap.

02:21We know exactly who these guys are.

02:23That was the big thing for me where, you know, how does it deviate from the prospect

02:27trade?

02:28Uh, the answer is prospects.

02:30You project, you say, Oh, I like this guy.

02:32Oh, I don't like this guy.

02:34Nobody really knows about prospects.

02:36If the Mets swapped Marcus Semyon for Clifford and a couple other guys, obviously

02:40Ranger fans are going to be excited about Clifford and they're going to go to the

02:43baseball reference page and they're going to see nearly 30 homers in the minor

02:46leagues, but they go to the call up and listen, but that's why I like it.

02:50Cause how else are you going to know if you're exactly.

02:53And the reality is you spend as much time diving into these guys as anyone.

02:58And you still don't know.

02:59You have no idea how they're going to project.

03:01You also don't know how Joe Adele is going to mature over the course of his major league

03:06career.

03:07This guy's 26 years old.

03:09He was just flirting with 40 homers, but he was really bad before that.

03:13So guys in their early to mid twenties that are traded like the Grayson Rodriguez swap.

03:18It jumbles my brain because I don't really know who Grayson's going to be in five years.

03:23But the thing about Brandon Nimmo and Marcus Semyon is we know exactly the kind of player that

03:29they are.

03:29So Nimmo's 33 years old.

03:31Semyon's 35.

03:32There's no uncovered stone to these guys.

03:35The last stone uncovered with one of them was Semyon moving over to second base.

03:39It is one year with Toronto and it just worked.

03:42So like, you're not, you're not betting on really anything here.

03:46It's just swapping a big contract for a big contract.

03:49And that's why I like it.

03:50This was, you're right.

03:52A kid trade, but also in the MLB, the show trade where you just pick your favorite old

03:57guy on an expensive deal.

03:58That was the other thought I had are like, when you're simulating the season, you see

04:02like that trade happening, you go like, oh, that's not something that would ever happen

04:06in real life.

04:07And, you know, I think, I think it was a trade to where you look at it, that it makes a lot

04:12more sense on the surface to, to like the Rangers side where people are, are saying, oh, like, why would

04:20the Mets do this?

04:21And I tried my best to kind of wrap my head around it all and why I think they would.

04:25And, and I honestly do think it's a sign of, of more to come, right?

04:29Because I think for the Mets, the Rangers, we're going to talk about non-tender players who were

04:34non-tendered and two of the more significant ones were Rangers guys to, you know, I think

04:41we're good business decisions, but you know, if you're in a spot where money ain't a thing,

04:44you're probably tendering Haim a contract and just seeing how it goes.

04:47Maybe even a Dolis who don't, but that's 18 million there.

04:50Now with this deal, it's roughly about $30 million in savings long-term for the Mets,

04:57but short-term you're, you're saving about five and a half million for the next two years.

05:02If you're the Rangers also on the Rangers side, I just think you're getting a more productive

05:07player at this stage is a little bit younger, but it's longer term, right?

05:10It's five years, $105 million versus what would send me in is about three years, 72.

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