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Martin Scorsese Worked to Get Financing for 'The Irishman' for Ten Years | Director Roundtable
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Martin Scorsese, Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig, Fernando Meirelles, Lulu Wang and Todd Phillips joined for the annual director roundtable.
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what has changed most significantly for good and bad what has changed for good
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or bad where would you begin how could you begin I mean basically well you
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could take the Irishman for nine years we couldn't get financing or something
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that De Niro and I hadn't made a picture since 1995 casino and over the years we
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wanted to make another film and then we never kind of met on certain subject
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matter and things changed you know life goes on and we looked around and we're
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still interested in working with each other long story bottom line is that we
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get to be 72 73 74 years old and he comes up with this book that Eric Roth gave him
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describes the character to me becomes extremely passionate and somewhat
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emotional about it and I said well that might be it and then I read the book and
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I said this is what we'll do that was 2009 got Steve's alien involved worked out
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the structure worked everything out and really couldn't get the financing with
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him and Al and Joe could not get the financing so he went off did his work I
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went off and did some films and when the time came around any possibility of them
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playing younger was out of the question it was gone gone so we looked at each other
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so I wind up I want to shoot silence I had to go and make silence you know and so
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that's when Pablo Hellman mentioned the deep the de-aging the euthification which
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is something we heard about but it was almost like science fiction you know by
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the time we did the test after shooting silence we did a test of De Niro doing
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good for a scene in Goodfellas and we did it again and we played it back two
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months later and we said let's take the risk let's try for it but of course that
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comes with a price tag right you know then it was even more money in terms of
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the the budget in terms of that so ultimately what happened was that we
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still after we still could not get a picture financed and I got a call from
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Ricky on said are you interested in Netflix and I said what's the story there and
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explained it financially the film would be complete backing willing to take the
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risks with the computer generated imagery or you call it that but you know it's
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more complicated and certainly the main thing for me was creative freedom the
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trade-off is that it's a streamer okay however I said but it will be shown in
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theaters right by that point you know I've been at this like 47 years yeah so
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at that point I've had a few films I mentioned this the other day I've had a
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few films play one or two weeks in the theater and taken out right yeah including
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especially king of comedy right yeah the last of the week and a half they
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took it out is that you've never shown again you know
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you did not go ahead and produce Joker your partner Emma is the producer on it
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why did you decide not to produce personal reasons I think for me also
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scheduling I mean quite honestly taxi driver and king of comedy and last
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you know my time those were my fights yes taxi driver wasn't a fight we did it
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and then there were some consequences to be paid at this point in time then we
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went ahead and did king of comedy and we were attacked for that and the film was
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considered the flop of the year and the new show entertainment tonight oh god on
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New Year's Eve I was putting my tie on and I'd look over in this TV and said now the
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flop of the year and a curtain open it was king of comedy and everything had
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turned the whole the whole all of Hollywood had turned against that kind of
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filmmaking really other reasons too do you think in a funny way because I mean I
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think we all romanticize sort of you know well the set that this sort of you
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know you're the 70s and even early 80s perhaps in a funny way do you think king of
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comedy would have done better 15 years later with independent studios because they
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wouldn't it wouldn't it would have been like a 24 these companies would have
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known what to do exactly however 1978 79 79 apocalypse now right at UA then
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Raging Bull 1980 ten days later Heaven's Gate opens up it was the end I'm not
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saying Heaven's Gate is a bad film I'm just saying they finished this off they had
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enough of these crazed or tours and everybody including the the critical
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community particularly the New York Times one review the film closed
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one night so that was the end of it all then you had other films that were being
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made that were you know wonderful sci-fi fantasy things and people wanted to see
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those we go ahead and make King of Comedy we just made Raging Bull so when
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people went to see if they expected De Niro as Jake LaMotta again and that
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changed things you see yeah and at that point also the studio had changed right so
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they said so I'm doing it yeah yeah gone picture finish so I went I try to do
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last temptation of Christ it was 1983 I spent the whole year here and six
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weeks before shooting started it was cancelled at which point I said I think
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I should leave you had death threats when you did last yes yes I don't go
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through a fight did you mean you didn't want to go through that again with Joker
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or you didn't know it's an issue it's a personal issue about the kind of picture
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I want to make at this point in my life I want to I'm more comfortable with this
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picture Irish men I'm more comfortable there you know
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