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'Marriage Story' Director Noah Baumbach: "I Like to Feel at Home on a Set" | Director Roundtable
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Martin Scorsese, Noah Baumbach, Greta Gerwig, Fernando Meirelles, Lulu Wang and Todd Phillips joined for the annual director roundtable.
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What extent is art autobiographical, Noah?
00:07
Philip Roth has a great quote about that he always started by taking two stones of reality
00:15
and rubbing them together to spark the imagination. And I find, I mean, I respond to that because
00:22
I often, you know, I like shooting in New York. I like to shoot on streets that I have
00:27
memories from childhood, you know, things, and it, again, doesn't have to have any resonance
00:31
with the specifics of the movie, but it puts me in a place of creativity. You know, I feel
00:37
like so much of what we do is a kind of conversation with the child we were, you know, and it's
00:44
that place of play. You know, I try to use all of these things and I put then familiar people
00:49
in the movies, you know, friends, uh, my doormen, our doormen. Uh, uh, uh, you know, uh, yeah,
00:56
because I mean, like, like when your mom is in the movie, yeah, yeah, no, and, and whether
01:01
you know it or not, it's, it's, you, you connect to something personal, you know, and I mean,
01:07
it goes to what we were talking about, how we like our sets. I mean, I, I, you know, I like
01:11
to feel kind of at home and as relaxed and calm at home on a set. And I feel like then
01:18
I can chaos can, it can come from that.
01:27
What do you most like about the filmmaking process and what do you most dislike?
01:31
I like set and I like being on set. I mean, I, I, I, I feel, I feel very deeply that movies
01:37
are made in prep. I don't, by the time you're on set, it's too late. It's happening. I feel
01:42
quite vividly that every second you spend doing one thing is the second you don't spend
01:46
doing something else. Now that's true for your entire life, but I feel it most vividly
01:51
on a film set. Whatever the negotiation of, of time and art is, it's absurd to have a timed
01:58
art form. Exactly. But it's also beautiful to have a timed art form.
02:02
Yeah, no, it's the same. You're always dealing against time and, uh, and negotiating
02:07
with yourself. No, I mean, it is, I mean, it's the only art form that, that exists. Yes.
02:12
I mean, where, where that there's, you actually, you have to get it done and on a schedule.
02:16
Well, you know, you can do it as deadlines. People have deadlines.
02:19
But that's different. Yeah, it's very different. I mean, your deadline is not when the sun goes
02:23
down because you're never, and you're never going to get there. It's not the only day to do
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that. Have that location. Because you have that location with all the hundreds of people
02:30
that you've got. I mean, it's true. It's different. I mean, and deadlines are good too,
02:34
because it creates, it's good. You want to create, I mean, where there, where there aren't
02:38
parameters in filmmaking, I think we all kind of create our own rules because you want
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to have those things. Yeah.
02:48
Noah, you and Greta are a couple. How does she influence your work? How do you influence
02:54
hers? I mean, it's beyond advice. It's like, uh, the roots are, she's in there from the very
03:01
beginning. I mean, it's not things that we've discussed even about things we might want to
03:06
write together or other projects. Like sometimes we'll, we'll end up like taking, you know,
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Greta has lines in all my movies, you know, but that are actually hers, you know? Um, uh,
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I mean, maybe things she said in life, but also things she wrote, you know, that I say,
03:19
can I use that? You know, cause it's, it's, you know, yeah, we're always sort of thinking
03:23
about things. And so like somebody had asked me is, Oh, has Greta, what did Greta, what was it
03:27
like showing Greta a marriage story for the first time? I was like, I don't even think of what the first,
03:31
I mean, there was a first time, but it was, you know, I felt like she knew kind of what she was
03:35
going to see because of, we were so in it together all the time. It's all the time. And, and, and all
03:42
the time of like, we'll see something. I mean, the, the, the, I think he talked about was you, the, um,
03:47
when we saw silence and there was the, the moment of the way you shot the scene where they're talking
03:53
to the Monsignor. Oh, yes. Yes. And the way, and he, we, he paused it and he was like, it's actually,
03:58
it's great. It's, it's wrong, but it's great. We got in trouble and I didn't know what to do.
04:04
It was the eye line. I'm one of the eye line to each person. So Rodrigo looked at me and said,
04:10
well, that means we're going to have to go because of the two priests here and the, the, the, uh, the
04:14
bishop is there at the Cardinal, whatever. And, um, so you jumped the line on it. Yeah. But
04:18
you go from Monsignor to Monsignor. Oh yeah. It'd be like Lulu's left shoulder and my right
04:23
shoulder to Steven. It'd be like cutting between the two. And we were cutting it together. Thelma
04:27
and I, she looked at me and says, this is crazy. I said, I don't know. Yeah. Let's do it the
04:30
other way. We looked at the other way. It says, terrible. Go back the other way. And we got back
04:34
to the mistake, which really a mistake was like, and I lifted that mistake in marriage story.
04:41
I do this a few times because the movie is all about perspective. It's so much about perspective and
04:45
about who, who are we with? And so when they're talking in the very beginning of the movie to
04:50
the mediator, I go, uh, I didn't do that exact thing. And I did it again in the courtroom. Uh,
04:57
and I always, of course, then, uh, it was actually yesterday I asked Marty, but I had a feeling it
05:02
felt in the best way, like kind of something, a mistake that worked because you could have always
05:09
cut through him. But on set, on set is where it happened. When we looked at each other and said,
05:12
okay, let's do this. Yeah.
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