Body language expert reveals what happened during Trump and Mamdani's meeting: 'I was surprised'

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00:00I'm watching the body language and their facial expressions.

00:03I mean, literally every muscle on their face, and there's 52 of them,

00:06and I know how to decode every single one.

00:09There wasn't anything there that was alarming.

00:12A furrowed eyebrow, or a tense-lowered eyelid, or maybe even jaw-biting.

00:17Something, right?

00:19But there wasn't any.

00:21Yeah, so my name is Susan Constantine.

00:22I'm the president of the Human Behavior Lab,

00:24and I am a body language expert specializing in substance detection

00:29and threat analysis.

00:31Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised because I thought that they would come out

00:35with all guns slinging, right?

00:36That there would be this tension, animosity building up,

00:40but I didn't see that at all.

00:41It actually surprised me because as a body language expert,

00:44I was looking for any sort of tenseness and some friction between the two of them

00:49or disdain, not any of it at all.

00:51So what really impressed me was the way they felt when they were around each other.

00:57There was a sense of camaraderie.

00:58They were very much at ease with one another.

01:01Their tone, their countenance when they was very respectful of one another.

01:06So I was surprised to see that happen.

01:10But then again, why should we be surprised, right?

01:14Because we have a president that says, all I want is peace.

01:18I want New York City to be a safe place to be.

01:21And they found common ground and respect for one another

01:24because they both wanted the same thing.

01:26So what I was pleasantly surprised about when I was watching the camaraderie between the two of

01:31them, Mondani, he would make eye contact with President Trump.

01:35Oftentimes what we see is they give each other the cold shoulder in other way,

01:41another moments when they've been together, but not today.

01:44So when President Trump would speak, he would look down at him.

01:47He would shake and nod his head in agreement respectfully.

01:51So I was looking for any sort of concealment of emotion where you were showing a false sense of self

01:59and false sense of belief and camaraderie.

02:03But I didn't see it.

02:04There really was a genuine connection between the two of them.

02:10Mondani would look at President Trump.

02:12He would, President Trump would make a comment.

02:15And then you'd see Mondani shake his head in agreement.

02:19And they would then bring his head back to the neutral position.

02:22So what was interesting is that he did that consistently.

02:26So I'm looking at baseline behavior.

02:28Did he do it throughout every single situation, every question that was asked?

02:33And he did.

02:34So it was really quite unique to watch the baseline between the two of them.

02:40And I think that what happened was they were both were pleasantly surprised that they did

02:46have a common ground they could build from.

02:48So that's what we really wanted, right?

02:51Something was unexpected.

02:53We didn't expect this to happen.

02:54But it shows that you can get a Republican and a Democrat together.

02:59And there could be common ground when the two of them decide to listen to each other

03:03and work together for the good of the common people or the people in New York City.

03:09So the other thing is that I noticed was is that there was a sense of just relaxness.

03:14I mean, President Trump did not show any sort of grimacing or raised eyebrows or dismissiveness.

03:21You know, oftentimes he'll do that.

03:23So we have, you know, that part of his personality.

03:25But there seemed to be a genuine friendship that actually built from this meeting.

03:31And also, too, that kind of attaboys and the pats on the back are just friendships.

03:37Those are friendship taps.

03:39So consistently throughout that entire piece that I reviewed, there was nothing that gave

03:45me pause of the two of them not feeling that they have a relationship they can build from

03:52from now and move on and start to get some work done.

03:55So the relaxed position of Mondani, his posture with his hands together and his fingers interlocked

04:04like that, there was some form of tension that was within his hands.

04:09But it wasn't restraint because I would have looked for other cues.

04:13If that were restraint, I would have seen some sort of restraint in his facial muscles.

04:18And that was not present.

04:19So I'm going to excuse that as being you're in a high profile situation.

04:26You're in the Oval Office.

04:27And because of the environment, he was trying very hard to keep that very cordial composure.

04:34And so that was really quite evident throughout the entire meeting that I saw.

04:39So when you see this posture change, where you see one standing, one sitting, when you

04:47are in a conversation, in a friendly conversation, you're seated, right?

04:51Because you want to be at their level.

04:53That's just a common courtesy that we do with other people.

04:57But now you're in the Oval Office.

05:00And President Trump is sitting at the Oval Office desk.

05:03And you're to show respect for the fact that he's at that desk.

05:06It would be really odd for him to be standing.

05:10So the fact that he was there, it's almost like the person on the throne, so to speak,

05:15right?

05:15You respect that person or you respect your elder.

05:18You respect a person who is in a higher position than you are, even though Mandani was standing

05:25taller than President Trump.

05:28That was not unusual to me.

05:30That was what I would have expected.

05:31In fact, when we see him many times when he's speaking in the Oval Office, he's always seated.

05:37A lot of times when the press is there, he is sitting there.

05:40He always has his hands up front, right?

05:42He has the same hand clasp as I've always seen him have.

05:47Nothing was unusual.

05:49So I think it was status quo.

05:51So I just felt like, wow, this is pretty cool.

05:56You know, finally we've got two powers, right, that are on the opposing side finally coming

06:01together and finding common ground.

06:04So I thought it was a beautiful thing.

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