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00:00Oh, great show for you tonight. I tell you, I couldn't be more head over heels if I just put Scotland into the World Cup Finals!
00:06Oh, did you see it? Oh, amazing. Congratulations to the Scottish team and to their fans, reminding us that football is still the beautiful game.
00:17And we've got a great line-up for you tonight. Look who's singing for us later. It's Somber, everybody!
00:22Yeah! He will be performing his single, 12 to 12. But there's nothing to be somber about on my sofa tonight.
00:30First off, she's a BAFTA, Tony, Golden Globe, an Oscar-winning star who stole our hearts in The Holdovers and steals the scenes in Only Murders in the Building.
00:39Her latest film is called Eternity. Please welcome Divine Joy Randolph!
00:43All right, here she is now!
00:47Yay!
00:50Thank you for your whole night! Sit down!
00:56This comedy genius who made us laugh in hits like Zoolander, Meet the Parents and Tropic Thunder.
01:03Now he brings us a very personal thought about his showbiz parents in Stiller and Mira, nothing is lost.
01:08It is Mr. Ben Stiller!
01:11Yeah!
01:14Hello, lovely to see you!
01:17And we've two stars of the new musical love story, Song Song Blue. She was Oscar-nominated for unforgettable performance in Almost Famous and ruled the rom-coms in hits like How To Lose A Guy in 10 Days, while her recent album, Glorious, showed off her considerable musical talent.
01:39Please welcome Kate Hudson!
01:45And he is a Grammy Emmy and Tony Ford winning star who's lit up the screens in The Greatest Showman, Les Miserables and last year's Deadpool and Wolverine.
01:51It's the one and only Hugh Jackman!
01:53It's the one and only Hugh Jackman!
01:57Hello, sir!
01:58Hello, sir!
01:59I'm glad to see you!
02:00It's down!
02:01Hello!
02:02Hello, all!
02:03Hello!
02:04I'm glad to see you!
02:05It's down!
02:06Hello, all!
02:07Hello!
02:08Hello!
02:09I really want to just hug Divine for most of the night.
02:11That's so sweet!
02:12It is!
02:13Yeah, whenever you want.
02:14Yeah, no, it is the sort of thing.
02:15If you wear that at a party by the end of the night, everyone's just clinging.
02:17Yep, that's the point.
02:18Gorgeous!
02:19So, welcome back to everybody!
02:20Yeah!
02:21And Hugh and Kate, obviously, you know each other, you've worked together, we're about
02:24to talk about the movie.
02:25But Ben and Kate, you've known each other for a long time.
02:26Like...
02:27Yes!
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02:44Yes!
02:45Yes!
02:46Like a wand.
02:4725?
02:4830?
02:49Yes!
02:5030 years, I think.
02:51Oh my goodness.
02:52Yeah!
02:53You guys were dating for how long?
02:54No, I didn't!
02:59Oh, Graham.
03:02Let's draw a showbiz veil.
03:05By the way, my daughter and I bond over two things, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills...
03:11Love it!
03:12...and musical theatre.
03:13One of our favourite shows is Les Mis, and we both bond over how much we love you...
03:18Yes.
03:19...in Les Mis, and how incredible you are as Valjean.
03:22Yes.
03:23And that's one of the things we do together, so we sing like the confrontation, you know...
03:26Well, I was just saying, how many of my daughter watch Severance?
03:28Right, right, right.
03:29Right.
03:30Religious.
03:31Yeah, man.
03:32Thanks.
03:33Wow!
03:34I love it.
03:36Because people may not know that you, of course, are the man behind Severance.
03:40Yeah.
03:41This year got a record-breaking 27 Emmy nominations.
03:45Wow.
03:46I mean, that's amazing.
03:47It's so good.
03:48It's so insanely good.
03:49I agree.
03:50Don't you direct every single episode?
03:52I don't.
03:53I don't.
03:54I directed about half the episodes last season.
03:56Oh, wow.
03:57And now you're not going to direct any more.
03:58Is that right?
03:59That...
04:00You...
04:01Do your research.
04:02No, not next season, but I'm still producing a part of it.
04:06Yes.
04:07Oh, okay.
04:08The next season is being written, or...?
04:10Yes.
04:11Yes.
04:12Not shot yet.
04:13You're asking all the tough questions.
04:14Okay.
04:15Yes, we are in process.
04:16Are we in it?
04:17Is this it?
04:18We're being negotiated right now.
04:20And someone who took an award away since we last met her, Divine Joy Randolph, an Oscar
04:26winner, goddammit!
04:31I felt like you had a proud relative, because you were on the show talking about the holdovers,
04:35and I love that movie.
04:36Yeah.
04:37It was just...
04:38And it is that kind of showbiz dream, was it?
04:41Did it feel how you thought it would feel?
04:44Oh, it was so out of body at that point, and they...
04:49Everyone had said to me, like, don't write anything down.
04:52I was like, well, I thought that's what everyone does.
04:55They were like, no, just speak from the heart.
04:57And so because of it, I blacked out.
04:59I don't remember anything.
05:02And then, were you very sensible and kind of like, yes, I have.
05:06My Oscar must go to bed now.
05:08Or did you go wild?
05:09No.
05:10Because I had been good that whole time.
05:12Oh.
05:13Mm-hmm.
05:14So you partied all night.
05:15Oh, yeah.
05:16Fun.
05:17Still going.
05:18Another party.
05:19Another party.
05:20Next club.
05:21I'm wearing my hugging dress.
05:22Yeah.
05:23Let's go.
05:24Listen, let's crack on with our first movie tonight.
05:28Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson are together in Song Song Blue.
05:32It'll be in cinemas from New Year's Day.
05:35Before we talk about it, here's a taste of the trailer.
05:38So good.
05:39So good.
05:40Mike and Claire Sardina.
05:41So good.
05:42Mike, Claire and Sardina are this real-life couple.
05:46Mm-hmm.
05:47So talk to us about them.
05:48Milwaukee, mid-'90s.
05:50Mike was AKA Lightning.
05:52His stage name was Lightning.
05:54His manager.
05:55And Claire was Thunder.
05:56That's right.
05:57Claire's staying open.
05:58His manager was his dentist who put a lightning bolt on his front tooth.
06:01And they were Lightning and Thunder.
06:04And in the mid-'90s, they had this Neil Diamond tribute band.
06:07And there they are.
06:08They played in pubs.
06:09They played in clubs.
06:10And then they just became the bomb.
06:12Huge.
06:13They were huge in Milwaukee.
06:14And they ended up opening up for Pearl Jam.
06:16And so that's sort of the showbiz side.
06:19But their story.
06:20Oh.
06:21Honestly, I want to be in every cinema.
06:23I'm talking too much.
06:24No, no, I'll talk.
06:25No, no, you.
06:26I'm interrupting.
06:27But also, what I think about is whatever you think this story, you know,
06:31it's a showbiz story.
06:32It goes to places you can't imagine.
06:35And I promise you, when you watch it, part of you is going to say,
06:38all right, Hollywood, take it down a notch.
06:40Like, come on.
06:41It's already a good story.
06:42You didn't have to lay it off.
06:43Everything is true.
06:44And Kate, you met Claire, the real Claire, in the end, but you didn't meet her initially.
06:50No, no.
06:51No, initially, I mean, we had such a great resource with the documentary,
06:55so I think Craig really wanted me to...
06:58This is the director.
06:59Who's the director?
07:00The director, Craig Brewer, writer-director, did an amazing job on this,
07:04and he kind of wanted me not to get too involved with Claire
07:10so that I wouldn't be torn away from my instincts of the story he wrote, you know.
07:14But once we started, she came on set, and it was amazing,
07:20and wild, actually, to have her there and, like, for us, you know,
07:23to have the same hair and stare at the older Claire, you know.
07:28And how difficult...
07:29Because you're doing such a specific thing, you.
07:31You know, you're playing a real person who's then impersonating a real person.
07:37Right.
07:38Like, which end do you start from?
07:39Yeah, it was confusing.
07:40Yeah.
07:41But I obviously have to start with me, and because I have a life where I perform as well,
07:46I kind of had to lose me to become Mike and then Mike to become Neil, and it was awesome.
07:51And luckily, the first thing we did was get in the recording studio.
07:54So we did everything live and we recorded everything.
07:57Nice.
07:58But that's really where we found our voices, I think.
08:01Yeah.
08:02Individually and together.
08:03And connection.
08:04Yeah.
08:05And it was like a nice sort of icebreaker because the story is such an intense love story.
08:09And I remember saying to Hugh, like, this movie won't work if we don't work.
08:14And we have to find that, like, really...
08:18They were so in love, Mike and Claire.
08:20Hmm.
08:21And so starting with music for us was a great way to kind of break the ice.
08:24And the chemistry between the two of you is great.
08:26There's just a little clip, and it's a very sweet little clip that just shows that love and that chemistry.
08:34I know.
08:35You know where to go.
08:36I might cry again.
08:37I might cry again.
08:38I haven't seen the movie.
08:39I'm already crying.
08:41My parents were a mess.
08:43Yeah.
08:44It was, like, really...
08:45Like, I think everybody who's...
08:46You know, because even when you know someone so well, like, we were a mess when we saw the
08:50movie the first time.
08:51And that's really rare.
08:52But what's nice is they're kind of gorgeous tears.
08:55It's not a depress...
08:56In no way is it depressing.
08:57No, it's uplifting.
08:58Look at you.
08:59You're welling up as well.
09:01Right.
09:02I'm seeing us kissing it.
09:03We had...
09:04There was a lot of kissing.
09:05So much kissing.
09:06But there was my favourite...
09:07My favourite moment.
09:08We were kissing one night.
09:09We had a kissing scene.
09:10Ended in a kiss.
09:11I proposed.
09:12And, uh, it started to snow.
09:15And it was, like, midnight.
09:16And it was freezing.
09:17Wow.
09:18It was so beautiful.
09:19You know when it's really cold and your nose can't stop running?
09:21Yeah.
09:22It's not a good thing.
09:23The scene was, like, two minutes long.
09:24So my make-up artist would go, oh, Hugh.
09:26Wow.
09:27OK.
09:28Clean me up.
09:29But by the time it came to the kiss, just...
09:30Oh, it was...
09:31Oh.
09:32And so...
09:33It ruined everything.
09:34It's really not good for your confidence when you see this look on your cosard's face.
09:40And that's on her close-up.
09:41And that's on her close-up.
09:42And that's on her close-up.
09:43Does your nose run when you cry?
09:47Oh.
09:48A little bit, yes.
09:49Yes, yes.
09:50And in the cold?
09:51Yes.
09:52Oh, guys, it was...
09:53Listen, I'm a professional.
09:54Am I right?
09:55I read you in an interview and you were talking about your connection to Claire, that that idea that you don't choose to perform...
10:02Like, these guys had to perform.
10:04You have to do it, yeah.
10:05There's...
10:06I think Hugh and I both relate to that very much so, where it's, like, it's just in you.
10:10And when you're born with music in you, it has to come out.
10:13You don't know what else to do, you know?
10:16And if you're not doing that, there's something really missing in your life.
10:20And that is Claire and Mike.
10:22And it was them, their whole life, their whole, you know, relationship.
10:26I think they fell in love because they saw that in each other, too, you know?
10:30Yeah.
10:31Um...
10:32You guys, you're...
10:33The people are born with music in them and they can't do it.
10:37Like me.
10:38Oh.
10:39There's so many people, like, no, but you guys are both, like, so unique.
10:42We were talking backstage about how, like, you know, Hugh can go on Broadway for, like, a year and do Music Man.
10:47Like, there's so few people who can do both, you know?
10:50Who can act and sing and dance and do all that.
10:52And, like, uniquely suited to this kind of movie where a few people can pull that off.
10:56But, Ben, drumming was your first love.
10:58Drumming was my first love, but I...
11:00Oh, wow.
11:01Yes. Yeah, but no, it was...
11:02We've got a picture of you drumming.
11:03Yeah.
11:04How old are you here?
11:05Look at you.
11:06That's my bar mitzvah.
11:07Ben, that's your bar mitzvah?
11:08Yeah.
11:09You're like Jack White.
11:10Yeah.
11:11But I did not have the music in me enough to make it come out and sound good.
11:16But you did, because last time you were here you told us about your band.
11:19Yes.
11:20Yeah, yeah.
11:21We're currently in a band?
11:22I have, no.
11:23In high school I had a band called Capital Punishment.
11:25Ooh.
11:26Very nice.
11:27Yes.
11:28And we recorded one album.
11:30And you did an album.
11:31Yeah.
11:32Was it, I think we've got...
11:33Was it called Roadkill?
11:34It was called Roadkill.
11:35There it is.
11:36Ooh.
11:37But now, here's the weird thing.
11:38So I'm showing you.
11:39I'm the guy down, the Che Guevara guy at the bottom.
11:41Ah.
11:42They're at the bottom right.
11:43Super dark.
11:44What was the vibe?
11:45The vibe was sort of like a post-punk kind of alt-rock, you know, Brian Eno, David Bowie
11:52inspired.
11:53Wow.
11:54What year was this?
11:55This was 19.
11:56It's already got a 19 in front of me.
11:5980...
12:00No, no, no, no.
12:01Yeah, 82.
12:02Wow.
12:03I have to hear this out.
12:04Well, now, here's the thing.
12:05Here's the thing, Kate.
12:06You can.
12:07Because this...
12:08No, we're not going to play it, but...
12:12Now I feel bad.
12:13Now I feel bad.
12:14Like, we should be playing it.
12:15No, please.
12:16But, so, you were talking about this in interviews, or it came up, and then what happened?
12:21Um, well, I was...
12:22I mean, somebody released our album.
12:24You're talking about that?
12:25Yeah.
12:26Somebody released our album.
12:27Like, years later, they found it, and an independent label released Roadkill.
12:30What?
12:31Yeah, and then we got together and started playing together again.
12:33And I just played with the guys, like, uh, yeah.
12:36Here you all are.
12:37Here's Capital Punishment.
12:38Here's Capital Punishment now.
12:39Awesome.
12:40Yeah, that's a few years ago.
12:41What?
12:42Yeah, we did a few gigs, and we just rehearsed the other day, actually.
12:45Oh, God.
12:46But the problem is, Peter, on the left, is a judge.
12:49He's, like, a chief...
12:51He's a judge in Arizona.
12:53And then Peter, on the other guy, the redhead Peter, he's a professor of Eastern European literature.
12:59He lives in Prague.
13:00OK.
13:01And then Chris, my friend who's screaming back, he lives in Brooklyn, and he's close by.
13:05OK.
13:06So we're never, like, in the same place together.
13:07And then, in terms of music, Divine Joy Roundup, you are a trained opera singer.
13:12Yeah.
13:13I mean, I know.
13:14You are.
13:15I am.
13:16I know.
13:17I get nervous about that.
13:18I don't know why.
13:19But it's true.
13:20It is true.
13:21That's not a lie.
13:22Yeah.
13:23Yeah.
13:24Well, you started in a choir, then opera?
13:25Yeah.
13:26And I...
13:27And then there was this, like, new girl that came to our school and was like, I went to
13:31Interlochen.
13:32And I was like...
13:33I went home and I was like, yo, Mom, I'm going to Interlochen.
13:36I don't know what it is, but I don't know how she's talking.
13:39It's a little too cocky for me.
13:41And so, literally, I didn't know what Interlochen was, what it was about.
13:44Got to the camp.
13:45It was, like, this big international performing arts school that's, like, in the woods.
13:48Switzerland?
13:49No, no, no.
13:50It's in Traverse City, which is, like, two hours outside of Detroit.
13:53But it's an international performing arts school.
13:55I get there and they were like, so you're in the opera program?
13:58And I was like, what?
13:59But I absolutely fell in love with it.
14:03And I was hooked.
14:04And I was saying to you backstage, when are we going to hear you sing a movie?
14:07I know.
14:08And I'm so jealous now, because hearing about theirs, and I got a chance to work with Craig
14:13Brewer on Dolomite, so I know how he's so good with music.
14:16I need to make it happen.
14:17It's going to happen.
14:18I do.
14:19I need to make it happen.
14:20Yeah, keep talking about it and it'll happen.
14:21I know.
14:22Like him.
14:23He brought up an interview and the whole band got back together.
14:24You could get Craig Brewer to direct the Capital Punishment movie.
14:27Yes!
14:28I can play it myself.
14:31Talking of music, Song Song Blue, obviously, it's not about Neil Diamond, but his music is
14:36like a character.
14:37I mean, it's so gorgeous.
14:38There's 13 of his songs in it.
14:39Wow.
14:40And Neil knew the story of Mike and Claire really well.
14:44And so he just gave his rights to his music for the movie.
14:47And you both spent time with him, right?
14:49Yeah.
14:50You did first.
14:51I grew up in Colorado and he lives like 10 minutes from where I grew up and had never
14:59met him.
15:00And he had seen the movie and I was like, can I go see him?
15:04And they invited me over and we had Lemonade on the Porch.
15:07There you are!
15:08There you are making Lemonade on the Porch.
15:09It was so emotional because he's retired.
15:12He's not singing anymore.
15:14He's really like, you know, living a very quiet life.
15:17Yeah.
15:18And he loves his movies so much and he was so grateful, which I was not expecting.
15:22And emotional about the movie.
15:24And then we just had just like this lovely porch moment.
15:28Yeah.
15:29What's that song?
15:30I am myself.
15:31Yeah.
15:32Oh, it's in there.
15:33There's no one there.
15:34And no one at night.
15:36Not even the chair.
15:38Oh, very good.
15:39I'm going to do a duet there.
15:41Yeah.
15:46So Kate went round and had Lemonade on the porch.
15:48Yeah.
15:49You, Jackman, you sort of imposed yourself on the Diamond family.
15:52Yeah.
15:53Well, he rang me.
15:55Oh, did he?
15:56He rang me after seeing the movie with his wife, Katie, and he was crying.
15:59And he was so moved by it.
16:01He loved it.
16:02Oh.
16:03And he just loved the story of Mike and Claire.
16:05And so I took the opportunity.
16:06I said, ah, guys, I'd love to come round and have a cuppa or something.
16:11And they were like...
16:12And Neil's like, OK.
16:14Yeah.
16:15All right.
16:16And then I didn't hear from Neil anymore.
16:18And Katie obviously takes her phone and goes, you know, we're in Colorado.
16:21I went, OK, yeah, no, I'd still like to come for a cuppa.
16:25And she was like, you...
16:26So I guess you want to stay the night?
16:27And I'm like, that'd be great.
16:29LAUGHTER
16:30And she's like, OK.
16:32So we went there and their son Jesse was there and Neil came out.
16:36And he came up to me and he grabbed me and he goes, you did good, kid.
16:39Oh.
16:40But he was emotional about it.
16:42And so I stayed the night and at dinner time, Neil Diamond...
16:47Neil Diamond goes, you want to do some karaoke?
16:49LAUGHTER
16:51And I'm like, hell yeah.
16:53We did karaoke.
16:54Oh.
16:55And he's...
16:56Yes.
16:57Oh.
16:58And the first song, Neil sang...
16:59Yeah, at one point he put his arm around and he kissed me on the forehead
17:02and he sang, I Dreamed a Dream.
17:04No.
17:05And I said, why are you singing I Dreamed a Dream?
17:06And he goes, that's such a pretty tune.
17:08And he sang it so beautifully.
17:09A pretty tune.
17:10And then we sang, can't help falling in love with you.
17:13And then we sang Sweet Caroline.
17:15Of course she did.
17:16Yeah.
17:17And a funny fact about the Diamond household...
17:19It's the best.
17:20This is a true story.
17:22Anyone who says, so good, in the Diamond household,
17:25two other people have to say, so good, so good.
17:26So good, so good.
17:27It took me a second to work it out.
17:29It happened to me too.
17:30Like, I'm sitting there, I go, oh God, it was so good.
17:32And then you hear someone go, so good, so good.
17:34And you're like...
17:35And then finally I was like, do you guys say that?
17:37And she's like, oh yeah, every time someone says, so good.
17:39Yeah.
17:40It's so good, so...
17:41Aw.
17:42Play that game at home,
17:43you're going to realise how often you say it.
17:45LAUGHTER
17:50A reminder that Hugh and Kate will be making beautiful music together
17:54in Song Song Blue from New Year's Day.
17:56And take it from me, it's so good.
17:58So good.
17:59So good.
18:00Very good.
18:01Very good.
18:02Very good.
18:03So, everyone can go to the Diamond household.
18:05Yeah.
18:06You're all in.
18:07APPLAUSE
18:08But, right now, you can see Ben Stiller
18:10in a very personal documentary film, Stiller and Mira,
18:13and nothing is lost.
18:14It's out now on Apple TV+.
18:17So, Ben, this is kind of a tribute to your parents,
18:20Anne Mira and Jerry Stiller,
18:22and very famous in America, I think probably less...
18:24Yeah.
18:25Well, certainly the double act, less well-known here.
18:27Yes, yeah.
18:28I think my dad became most well-known for doing Seinfeld
18:30and being on Seinfeld and King of Queens,
18:32but they had a whole career before that.
18:35My parents were a comedy team.
18:37They were on the Ed Sullivan Show about 36 times in the 60s.
18:40Whoa!
18:41Yeah, and, you know, their whole act
18:43was sort of based on their relationship,
18:45and we grew up around that
18:47and them, you know, kind of creating together.
18:50And so the documentary is about, yeah,
18:53about growing up in a show business family
18:55and kind of...
18:56And then it sort of became about our whole family,
18:59because originally I wanted to make something
19:01when my dad passed away, just about my parents
19:03and their career and their relationship,
19:06but I didn't really know what it would be.
19:08And that was in 2020, I started working on it,
19:10and COVID was happening, and, you know,
19:14it was just kind of a time where, you know,
19:17we couldn't do a memorial for my dad or anything like that,
19:20and I had all this footage that my dad had saved,
19:23because he'd saved Super 8 footage
19:25and home movies and videocassettes and scripts,
19:28and we were going through the apartment.
19:30So the movies, my sister and I going through the apartment,
19:32cleaning out the apartment.
19:33That bit is so related.
19:34Anyone who's lost a parent.
19:35Yeah.
19:36When you and Amy are going to the apartment
19:37to clear it out.
19:38And when you say clear it out, there's stuff.
19:41I mean, he kept everything.
19:43He saved everything, yeah.
19:44He saved, like, an old scuba mask
19:45from when I was, like, eight years old
19:47or, like, our YMCA, you know, form to, like,
19:51you know, to apply for the family day,
19:53things like that.
19:54And so, but you know how it just gets very, you know,
19:57you get deep into that stuff when you start going into it
19:59and you kind of go into another time.
20:00It would take forever to get rid of it, yeah.
20:01Yeah.
20:02And so making the movie was a strange process
20:04because I'd be delving into all this stuff,
20:06and then I was trying to figure out,
20:07what is the movie really about?
20:08We've got a clip.
20:09This is your parents at work,
20:11and then it kind of cuts to you and your sister Amy
20:15talking about some of the...
20:16Yeah, when we're going through the apartment,
20:18going through all this stuff.
20:19Some of the blurred lines.
20:20Yes, yeah.
20:22And in the documentary, I mean,
20:25it does become kind of meta where, you know,
20:28what are some of the pitfalls of parenting
20:31that you see yourself fall into while you're making this?
20:35I think it's that thing when you're, you know,
20:37when you're younger, I, you know,
20:39having kids who want to, who are actors,
20:42and my son's in college, my daughter's a working actor,
20:45you know, I see myself in them
20:48in terms of how I was with my parents,
20:50because when I was young, I didn't want my parents' help.
20:52I didn't, I kind of, you know,
20:54wanted to do my own thing.
20:55I wasn't even, I didn't even care what they were doing,
20:57and, but also I was, I had like issues with them,
21:00you know, because they were working all the time,
21:01and they were busy, and, you know,
21:03the stuff that comes up as you get older too,
21:05and you look back, and, but then when you have kids,
21:07it just makes you look at your parents
21:09in such a different way.
21:10And of course, I, so I decided to interview my kids
21:12for the, for the movie, and of course,
21:14they have all the same issues that I had.
21:16For probably even worse.
21:19And I realized, you know, that, that's the thing,
21:21like you try to not make those mistakes,
21:23but then you can't help it.
21:24It's just, you know, it's part of just, you know,
21:26being a parent.
21:27This is all hitting very close to home.
21:28Yeah.
21:29I was going to say, because when you grew up
21:30with very famous, you know, Goldie Hall and Kurt Russell,
21:32did they kind of try to protect you from the show business bit,
21:35or were you kind of in it?
21:37You know, it's funny, when you're in it,
21:38you don't see it like show biz,
21:40because you see it like a really creative, artistic story.
21:43And also it's your life.
21:44Family.
21:45You don't know any difference.
21:46Yeah, and also like, they're not like, you know,
21:48I mean, it was just their job.
21:50And, you know, it's so interesting to hear this,
21:54because it is, it's, it's, it's a story.
21:56It's like, you know, my, my son, same as Ella,
21:59they're both actors and it is a DNA thing.
22:03There's something in it.
22:04There's something in the artist kind of, you know,
22:08DNA that is an interesting thing to uncover.
22:11Like, what is it?
22:12Is it, is it nurture or is it nature?
22:14And, and, Devon, it's interesting.
22:16You didn't have show business parents,
22:17but your parents, they went to such lengths
22:20to make sure you succeeded.
22:21No one that we have traced in our genealogical past
22:26has artistic gifts.
22:29I genuinely do not know where this came from.
22:33I don't.
22:34But it was cool because my parents were just kind of like,
22:37my parents taught me at a young age, like,
22:40these are your gifts.
22:41That was something that I knew that was very different
22:43from other kids that like, it would almost be like a whisper.
22:46Like, well, you know what I mean?
22:47Like, let's say, I don't know, we're out and about shopping
22:50or whatever.
22:51And maybe I would just like goof off and be humming.
22:53And my mom would be like, that's, that's real.
22:57That's a real gift that you have.
23:00And I was like, oh, okay.
23:02So I was made aware of it at a young age.
23:04And so when I switched gears and got into acting,
23:07and when I had got into Yale, my father was very happy.
23:11Because of the Ivy League portion of the equation.
23:14And got all the lanyards and all the things.
23:17And I was like, you know it's for acting though, right?
23:19He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no.
23:21He went to Yale.
23:22And I never forget at my graduation, Scorsese spoke,
23:27was like the keynote speaker.
23:28And my dad was like, talk to him, you need to get a job.
23:31And I was like, please, stop that.
23:34But yeah, it's, but they've been so supportive.
23:37And I, I can't even imagine what that would be like.
23:40And as I was like growing into my artistry, I kind of always wanted that.
23:45Although I was so grateful to what my parents did.
23:47But because I was kind of like on my own and figuring this out.
23:52But I just think that is so unique.
23:55It's amazing they supported you like that.
23:57Yeah.
23:58Well, talking of supportive fathers, Hugh Jackman, your dad did something so sweet.
24:02Do you know what I'm talking about?
24:03You probably, I do know what you're talking about.
24:04Yeah, yeah.
24:05But my dad was always supportive.
24:06We went growing up always to the theatre, every show.
24:10My standing, my gift every year for my birthday was a subscription to the Sydney Theatre Company
24:15so that I could go, he bought the cheapest one possible.
24:18So I had to go Wednesday matinee and skip class just so I could do it.
24:22Wow.
24:23Dad made sure I saw everything.
24:24And I remember once in my career, Dad saw everything I did.
24:27It was always just so effusive when he came back.
24:30Even the stuff that he had no interest in.
24:32And I could tell he didn't like it.
24:34But he'd be like, wonderful work, Hugh.
24:35Wonderful.
24:37And one time I was offered to do Carousel at Carnegie Hall.
24:41And I just, I told Dad, I'm doing this thing.
24:43He goes, I'm coming.
24:44I, I'm, because for my dad, Carousel, that's his jam.
24:48Yeah.
24:49So my dad never missed a day of work in his life.
24:50He worked at Pricewaterhouse.
24:51His entire working life.
24:53And he took three days off to come to New York to see me in Carousel.
24:58Now when I say three days, that's 24 hour flight from Sydney to New York.
25:02Wow.
25:03He was in New York for less than 24 hours.
25:05And then a 24 hour flight back straight to the office.
25:08Wow.
25:09And so he was on his way over.
25:10And my dad, itineraries, accountant.
25:13Classic accountant.
25:14What's the dress code?
25:15What time is it?
25:16And I said, it's Black Tie Dad.
25:18It's Carnegie Hall.
25:19Well, on the day of, I found out it wasn't black tie.
25:22It was business casual.
25:24And I pictured my dad just arriving with like whatever he's wearing on the plane with the black tie.
25:30And so I rang him.
25:31He was, he was, he just got to the hotel.
25:33I'm rehearsing.
25:34We're on in like eight hours.
25:36I said, Dan, I'm so sorry.
25:37It's not.
25:38He goes, don't worry.
25:39I'll get it sorted.
25:40Everything's okay.
25:41And I said, fine.
25:42He said, but do me a favor, Hugh.
25:43I would love to come and pick you up at your hotel room and walk you to the stage door before the performance.
25:49Stop.
25:50And I said, sure.
25:51And my dad never asked for stuff like that.
25:53And so I said, sure.
25:54I said, well, meet me at six.
25:55The show's at eight.
25:56I'm going to walk over, get there about 6.15.
25:58And so six o'clock on the dot.
26:00There's a knock on the door.
26:01Open it up.
26:02And there's my father standing in full black tie.
26:05And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
26:07Dad, I'm so serious.
26:09Only the choir are wearing black tie.
26:11No one else.
26:12And he looked me straight in the eye and he said, Hugh, my son is singing at Carnegie Hall.
26:17It is black tie for me.
26:18Oh.
26:19That's beautiful.
26:25Yeah.
26:26Not a dry eye.
26:27Not a dry eye.
26:28I want to call my dad.
26:29Someone's got to cry tonight.
26:30Someone's got to cry.
26:31Here's the thing.
26:32I couldn't believe in the documentary bit.
26:34Yeah.
26:35So your parents are performers, but they were not shy about kind of bringing you and your
26:41sister in front of the cameras.
26:42Right.
26:43Well, yeah, when we were little, I mean, they would go on the Mike Douglas show, which was
26:46like a daily show and they would bring us out, you know, for like a funny little bit
26:51or something like that.
26:52We thought it was so much fun because we got to be on TV.
26:55But it wasn't.
26:56So some of the times you just came on as cute, small people.
26:59Look, our adorable children.
27:00Right.
27:01But then there's a bit where they make you not, well, I don't know what they made you,
27:04but you perform.
27:05Well, they were co-hosting the show.
27:06So they do five shows and they'd be sitting on the couch with him.
27:10And so I think one day they were like trying to think of things to do that would be fun.
27:13And they go, oh, well, our kids take violin lessons.
27:16Why don't we have them come out and play?
27:18Listen, we have the clip.
27:19No.
27:20What is happening?
27:21This is the clip.
27:22This is the clip from the documentary.
27:25This is the clip from the documentary.
27:26Yeah, check out the level of talent.
27:28So here we go.
27:29So this is...
27:30That is so funny.
27:31I think my mother there is realising, oh, there's going to be years of therapy.
27:35Beautiful.
27:37You can see Ben's tribute to his parents, Stiller and Mira, nothing is lost on Apple TV right now.
27:43Yeah.
27:46Meanwhile, Divine Joy Randolph brings us Eternity.
27:51It's in cinemas from the 5th of December.
27:54And so this is...
27:55There aren't many of them, but there are a couple.
27:58It's an afterlife rom-com.
28:00Mm-hmm.
28:01OK.
28:02And so who do you play?
28:03What's going on?
28:04Tell us what you can.
28:05So I play an AC, which is an afterlife coordinator.
28:09So it's like a social worker of purgatory, basically.
28:13And the whole concept is like, when people leave Earth, they come to this place.
28:19It's called the Junction.
28:20And we basically...
28:22My role is that, as an AC, is that I help you decide where you would like to spend eternity.
28:30And there's all these different worlds of options.
28:33Like Beach World and, like, Germany in the 30s, before the Nazis.
28:39Like, no Nazis.
28:40You know what I mean?
28:41And so...
28:42That's a real thing.
28:43I'd go for Beach World.
28:44Yeah.
28:45Yeah.
28:46And so...
28:48In our movie, basically, Elizabeth Olsen and Miles Teller play an old couple.
28:57He dies by choking on a pretzel.
28:59Mm-hmm.
29:00That's a sad, sad, sad way to go.
29:03Um, and he dies first.
29:06Then she dies.
29:07And he's waiting for her.
29:09Uh, and then when she dies, she's asked the same question.
29:13And then Callum Turner appears and is like, I am your long-lost first love who went to war, died in the war, and he's waited 67 years for her.
29:26Ooh.
29:27And so he comes and is like, babe, it's me.
29:29And so she has a real dilemma.
29:32So her choice, well, her thing then is whom she is going to spend eternity with.
29:38And then shenanigans ensue.
29:39Both.
29:40Hot.
29:41Duh.
29:42Both hot.
29:43Big both.
29:44Big both.
29:45But yeah, it's really cute and it's all this back and forth and she's trying to figure it out.
29:50So my character helps Miles' character try to win the girl.
29:54Well, that's what we've got.
29:55We've got a clip of you as Anna with Miles Teller character, Larry, discussing his options.
30:00Mm-hmm.
30:05I don't know if you know this.
30:06I heard Elizabeth Olsen talking about this movie.
30:09And weirdly, she said she...
30:11Do you know this?
30:12I heard this too.
30:13I don't know Elizabeth Olsen, but I heard her on a talk show talking about the movie.
30:16Mm-hmm.
30:17Saying that she modeled her character, this older lady, on my mother.
30:21I believe it.
30:22Yeah.
30:23That sounds amazing.
30:24She watched tapes of your parents working together.
30:26That blew my mind.
30:27And that was, yeah, the other night.
30:28I just heard her saying that.
30:29I believe it.
30:30Yeah.
30:31I love your father's physical comedy so much.
30:32And so when I get a chance to be physical, just the way that he was so free in his body.
30:38Yeah.
30:39It's something like, normally directors have to be like, tone it down, tone it down.
30:41Because I would literally throw myself across the room if I could do it.
30:45I just loved how much he just was so in his body and all his faculties.
30:50Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:51Mm-hmm.
30:52A lot of film actors, you know, physicality in movies is not really...
30:55I know.
30:56...talked about that much, you know, because it's all like close up, you know, but that's such...
30:59No, I love it.
31:00But also there's a tone to the comedy in it.
31:01That kind of tug of love.
31:02Yep.
31:03That does kind of...
31:04Yeah.
31:05...feeds into that thing.
31:06I love it.
31:07I can't wait to see it.
31:08Yeah.
31:09It's called Eternity and it's out on the 5th of December.
31:11But we should say people can still enjoy you on the small screen.
31:15Murders.
31:16Only murders in the building.
31:17Oh, yes.
31:18Only murders in the building.
31:20Look at those two nut jobs.
31:23Aw.
31:24We've just finished season five here.
31:27Yeah.
31:28Season six is happening.
31:29It is.
31:30Now, I hear a rumor.
31:31It's not a rumor anymore, but it might be for you guys.
31:33Go ahead, say it.
31:34It's going to be filmed here.
31:35It is going to be filmed here.
31:36Oh, wow.
31:37How is that happening?
31:38When I tell you, I literally don't know.
31:40Okay.
31:41I don't know how we...
31:42The only thing I think of is like, we were in New York, then we had a season in L.A.
31:46Now we're going to London.
31:48So I genuinely, I'm not even like, I'm not going to tell you.
31:52I don't know.
31:53Okay.
31:54How we are going to London, but I'm very excited.
31:56But the New York cop is coming to London.
31:58I sure hope so.
32:00Like, you know, you pitched your thing in the interview.
32:02Where's the camera?
32:03John Hoffman.
32:04I would love to be in this next season of Only Murders in the Building.
32:07London.
32:11Because wouldn't it be so cool if she like had scenes with like the guards, right?
32:16Oh, yes.
32:17And she's trying to like make them break and stuff.
32:19Yes.
32:20Like, right?
32:21Or like she wants to go in training to be one of those because you know she's so tough.
32:24Yeah.
32:25Yeah.
32:26Now you join the Met.
32:27It'll be good.
32:28Yeah.
32:29I love it.
32:30And then it's been a while.
32:31The Fockers are back.
32:32Yes.
32:33They're coming back.
32:34Yes.
32:36It's called Focker in Law?
32:37Focker in Law.
32:41Rolls off the tongue.
32:42Don't love it.
32:43And is everyone back?
32:44Owen Wilson's back.
32:45Robert De Niro's back.
32:47And Terry Polo's back.
32:49And Blythe Thanner's back.
32:51And the prospective Focker in Law is Ariana Grande.
32:56Oh, wow.
32:57Yes.
32:58And when will Focker in Law be in the world?
33:01We have this holiday in the States called Thanksgiving.
33:04You know?
33:05We've heard of it.
33:06So it's around now.
33:07So a year from now it's going to be out.
33:09Oh.
33:10What?
33:11We just finished shooting.
33:12We literally just finished shooting it.
33:13Oh, okay.
33:14Yeah.
33:15So next Thanksgiving.
33:16She's incredible.
33:17Ariana's like, what an amazing girl.
33:19You'd worked with her before though, hadn't you?
33:21She was in Zoolander 2.
33:23We had an orgy scene.
33:25Oh.
33:26And there was a hippo and Ariana and myself and Owen and a few other random people.
33:34And that was when we worked together back in the day.
33:36Beautiful.
33:37And Hugh, last year, such enormous success with your movie Deadpool and Wolverine.
33:42I think it was the second biggest movie of the year.
33:44No, for sure.
33:45Yeah.
33:46Look at that.
33:47Come on, Libby.
33:48No.
33:49But like, so every time you're on, you've got to go, well, I won't be doing that again.
33:54But then you keep making another one and it's a big, big hit.
33:57Yeah.
33:58So are you going to have to do it again?
33:59Maybe.
34:00Ooh.
34:01Ooh.
34:02Maybe.
34:03I'm not saying, I am never saying never ever again.
34:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:07Because I didn't mean it when I said never until the day when I changed my mind.
34:11But I really did for quite a few years I meant it.
34:13Do you think you've got to the point now where they could like AI the body or something?
34:16A hundred percent.
34:17Yeah.
34:18I think I've done ten films.
34:19I know.
34:20Yeah.
34:21So I think they've got enough in there.
34:22Oh, yes.
34:23Good point.
34:24I've done your show five or six times.
34:25I don't know why you're here.
34:26I could be out there in the dressing room.
34:27I don't know why you're here.
34:28I'm kidding.
34:29Your show is funnier.
34:30I'm going to take the fruit bowl.
34:31I'm out.
34:32Yeah.
34:33Right, it is time for music.
34:35This Grammy-nominated artist shot to fame with his first single Caroline in 2023.
34:41Here performing 12 to 12 from his current album, I barely know her.
34:45It is Somber.
34:46This is really great.
34:47Come on up.
34:49I'm such a big fan of you.
34:50I'm such a big fan of you.
34:51I'm such a big fan of you.
34:52I love you.
34:53I love you.
34:54I love you.
34:55I love you.
34:56You guys are amazing.
34:57Oh.
34:58That was so fun, man.
34:59Oh, thank you.
35:00I have to say, you know, we've been doing the show for a while.
35:02We've had lots of musical performances.
35:03I've never seen that mic stand before.
35:05Well, it's because it's the first of its kind.
35:08Oh.
35:09So fun.
35:10What do you call it?
35:11Does it have a name?
35:12It's a ball sack.
35:13Ah.
35:14Perfect.
35:15How many times does that giant ball sack hit you?
35:17I was going to say that.
35:18No problem.
35:19Yeah.
35:20Yeah.
35:21I think the stem of the giant ball sack is what hits you in the face.
35:25Sorry.
35:26Sorry.
35:27You brought it up.
35:30So thank you very much for that performance.
35:33That is off your current album, I Barely Know Her.
35:37There it is, ladies and gentlemen.
35:40And I'm so happy for you because straight out of the gate, a Grammy nomination.
35:47Amazing.
35:49Yeah.
35:50Thank you so much.
35:51And what I think is really nice about the Grammys is they announce the nominations and
35:56then the Grammys aren't for ages.
35:57Yeah.
35:58Like you get to be a nominee for so long.
36:00It's lovely.
36:01I'm just enjoying it while it lasts and time's ticking.
36:04No, no.
36:05And you know, you're young but you have been doing music since you were very young.
36:09Yeah.
36:10And am I right that you were about 17 and you were like, actually, I'm not going to bother.
36:12I'm going to pack this in.
36:14Well, yeah.
36:15I was in high school and I was just kind of figuring out what I wanted to do with my life.
36:22I hated school.
36:23It was not for me.
36:24And so I kind of, I made this one song and it was like my last hope kind of thing, which
36:31is kind of funny because I was literally like 16 years old.
36:34So it definitely wasn't.
36:35But I felt that way because I was just a little dumbass, but whatever.
36:40I posted it on the internet one day.
36:43I wrote it and produced it in my room.
36:45And then I went to bed expecting to get bullied at school the next day.
36:47But I woke up and it was viral overnight.
36:50And then I had every record label in my inbox and I didn't know what to do.
36:54So I got signed and I was able to drop out of school.
36:57And my mom was really upset about that.
37:00But now I'm on Graham Norton, so.
37:02Yeah!
37:07Who are your musical heroes?
37:09My musical heroes?
37:12Man, Radiohead is my favorite band.
37:16I love Jeff Buckley.
37:18You're putting me on the spot.
37:20I love The Strokes, Velvet Underground.
37:21Capital Punishment.
37:22Who?
37:23Capital Punishment.
37:24Capital Punishment.
37:25Capital Punishment.
37:26I love Capital Punishment.
37:27There you go!
37:28And then the Beatles.
37:29Yes!
37:31The stage presence.
37:33Where in the world did that come from?
37:36Because you're young, but when he was moving I was like, who is this old soul?
37:41That's why you probably asked about who his muses are.
37:44Because the way he's moving and taking over this space.
37:47I was like, where do you get that from?
37:49I learned it all on stage.
37:50I used to be really stiff.
37:52But when I walked out to my first bigger headline show of fans that were all there for me,
37:58something just unlocked in me.
38:00And I don't know, I just tried stuff on stage.
38:03It's very cool.
38:04I don't think it's that good, but thank you.
38:06Good.
38:07Good.
38:08Good.
38:09Good.
38:10Well, thank you very much for that great performance.
38:11We all really enjoyed it.
38:12And good luck with the album and at the Grammys.
38:15Somber, everybody.
38:16Right.
38:17That is nearly it.
38:21No, no.
38:22You stay there, Somber.
38:23You're going nowhere.
38:24You've arrived now.
38:25OK.
38:26You go nowhere.
38:27It's just time for a quick visit to the big red chair.
38:31Who's there?
38:32Hello.
38:33Hi.
38:34Hi.
38:35What's your name?
38:36Luke.
38:37Luke.
38:38Lovely.
38:39And where are you from, Luke?
38:40Belfast.
38:41Gorgeous.
38:42And do you live there or here?
38:43I just shot a film in Belfast.
38:46Have you?
38:47Yeah, I just shot a film there in February.
38:49Anyway.
38:50He wasn't there.
38:51He's been here for a year.
38:52Belfast is dead to him now.
38:54What do you do here, Luke?
38:56I'm a management consultant.
38:58OK.
38:59He's landed on his feet.
39:00Off you go with the story, Luke.
39:02OK, so three or four years ago, I had a rather embarrassing operation
39:06on my bum, my backside, so...
39:09We got bum, yep.
39:10So, anyway, I was in hospital and was getting surgery
39:15and it hadn't been really done on someone my age,
39:18so my surgeon was rather apprehensive.
39:21But anyway, after she did it to me, she basically said
39:24that we needed to take before photos and after photos
39:26for the British Medical Journal, so...
39:28Oh!
39:29Anyway.
39:30Hello?
39:31I was in the last block.
39:32Shame at last.
39:33You didn't check that out after that?
39:36But two weeks go by and I am getting discharged,
39:39so anyway, I have to go get my after photos.
39:42So, erm, the person can see I'm very, very nervous.
39:45The photographer, it was quite an old woman,
39:47and next thing she said,
39:48like, don't worry, son, I've seen it all, I've seen it all.
39:50So, I relaxed, turned around, pulled down my trousers,
39:54pulled down my pants, bent over.
39:56Next thing all I hear is a gasp and, holy shit!
39:58And I just look, bright red-faced, it's like, I've seen it all now, son.
40:04And that was it.
40:06I mean, I do love that story.
40:10Do you want to walk or do you want to be flipped?
40:12Yeah, flip me.
40:13Yeah!
40:14Go on!
40:15Yeah!
40:16Go on!
40:17I think we're all missing that story.
40:19Come on.
40:20Yeah.
40:21I didn't want to cry, but what on earth was the operation?
40:25What was the operation?
40:26And why did they need before and after?
40:28For a medical journal.
40:30Like, it's been published.
40:31Very dodgy.
40:32Very dodgy.
40:33It's been published.
40:34Very dodgy.
40:35Very dodgy.
40:36Yeah.
40:37It's a published book.
40:38Google it, kids.
40:40Okay, that really is all we've got time for.
40:42If you've got to have a go on the red, share yourself and tell your story.
40:45You can contact us via our website at this is their address.
40:47Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests tonight.
40:49Somber!
40:53Devon Joy Randolph!
40:56Ben Stiller!
40:59Kate Hudson!
41:00And Hugh Jackman!
41:05Join me next week with music guest Jessie J, Bridgerton's Nicola Coughlin,
41:10smoldering Swede Alexander Skarsgård, Hollywood legend Glenn Close,
41:14and national treasurer Miriam Margulies.
41:16I'll see you then.
41:17Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!
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