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01:00That you are still under caution, that this interview is being recorded and may be used as evidence in a court of law.
01:08Do you understand that?
01:10Yes, sir.
01:10Did you, at about ten this morning, enter Mersey's sub-post office armed with a pistol?
01:21Yes, sir. I did, sir.
01:23Go!
01:24Tell us what happened next.
01:26Well, I, um, I, um, gave the lady behind the counter a bag.
01:34That's right, Dix. Carry on.
01:37I carry the bag.
01:38Oh!
02:09Aye, aye, it's the busies.
02:16You've been a busy boy this morning, Dix.
02:19Fishing with me, friend, Mr Kendrick.
02:21Say.
02:22I'll have you, Dix.
02:23Will you?
02:24What for?
02:26It's only a matter of time.
02:34And Dix was charged that night?
02:36Yes.
02:36By Kendrick.
02:38On four counts of armed robbery, all post offices,
02:41including the one at New Brighton that morning.
02:44Has Kendrick been involved in any of the other South Lancashire embarrassments?
02:48Doesn't look like it.
02:49The Metropolitan Police investigating team
02:51has been increased to a strength of 16 officers and two civilians.
02:56We continue to work in close cooperation with
03:00and under the supervision of the Police Complaints Authority.
03:04Assistant Commissioner.
03:05What about the LB?
03:06Molly Cope, Liverpool Press.
03:07Yes, Miss Cope.
03:09We know.
03:10For nine months, you have been investigating 312 complaints and 42 arrests.
03:15Three men have been released by the Appeal Court,
03:17who between them spent 17 years in prison that they shouldn't have.
03:21Yet all we have to show for this waste of the public's time, money and, worst of all, liberty,
03:26is one officer retired on medical grounds, one cautioned, and five suspended on full pay.
03:33Not a criminal charge in sight.
03:35Meanwhile, members of the public, like Teddy Dix, who has now been in prison for over 18 months, waiting...
03:40Did you have a question, Miss Cope?
03:42Which would you say was foremost in your minds whilst carrying out these investigations?
03:48The interests of the public or the police force?
03:51Yeah, all right, darling.
03:56Yeah, sleep well.
03:58I'll see you soon.
03:59Bye-bye.
04:00Hello?
04:11Jenny, what?
04:14Jenny, it's over.
04:15Too many people know it's over.
04:19Jenny, no, if you did that, I would never speak to you again.
04:22This place is crawling with Met.
04:23That's probably the assistant commissioner now.
04:26He's in the room next door.
04:28Oh, shit, there's another one.
04:30Just a minute!
04:31Yeah, look, I'll ring you in a couple of weeks.
04:34Do not ring me.
04:37All right, bye.
04:37Bye.
04:42Are you watching it too?
04:46What?
04:47Oh, I thought that was why you're not.
04:48I'm nearly here to investigate criminal or disciplinary offences.
04:55Amongst your fellow officers.
04:58Well, Mr. Dunning, the cry seems to be whitewashed.
05:01Inevitably.
05:02John Moore, you saw there, who's leading the investigations, is an old friend and colleague of mine.
05:07He's a superb police officer.
05:08But there's no question...
05:09He's impressive, isn't he?
05:10Oh, Dunning.
05:11...must be carried out by a holy...
05:13Do you think so?
05:14...body, sometimes with PCA supervision.
05:16I admit that there are some members of the police force who will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Britain of the 1990s.
05:22I think he's a gray suit, it all thinks, to all men political.
05:26I'll be buggered if he's going to drag me into the 1990s, screaming or otherwise.
05:35What's up with him?
05:36He hates been away from home.
05:38I think he's missing some wee wifey's spotted dick.
05:41Or vice versa.
05:43Uh, nightcap?
05:43Hello.
05:47Hello.
05:59Hi-dous.
06:00Hi-dous.
06:01Hi-dous.
06:03Uhhh-wee-ho-wee-ho-wee-ho.
06:05¿You-ah-oh-wee?
06:06There's his brother.
06:09Is that his brother- real, he?
06:10I think he knows you are.
06:11Whoah!
06:12Oh, that's not it.
06:18But they said he was coming here.
06:22Well, where is he?
06:24Well, I can't keep coming back here.
06:28He's underage.
06:31Excuse me.
06:32Can you tell me we're out and find the Met incident room, please?
06:36You're a detective?
06:38Yeah.
06:39Then you find him.
06:43Ah, Clark. Hello.
06:45Welcome to Beirut.
06:53I want you lot back in London in a couple of weeks.
06:56My gut feeling is that this Dick's character is hitching onto the bandwagon.
07:00None of the three officers involved have been implicated in any of the other shenanigans around here.
07:06Don't get me wrong.
07:07Bent coppers I want in the bin.
07:10But I will not countenance a witch hunt.
07:12Understood.
07:13Understood, sir.
07:15Right.
07:16Carry on.
07:20Well, consider yourself lucky.
07:21Most of us have been moving a pile like this every week for the best part of a year.
07:24Dick's was arrested by Kendrick and McPherson at 9.25 p.m., taken to Egberthnik and booked in by the duty sergeant, Sergeant Pointon, at 10 p.m.
07:40He made a taped confession at 11.52 p.m.
07:43He made no complaint at the time.
07:45No.
07:45At the committal proceedings, he mentioned being roughed up, but he never made a formal complaint.
07:50Well, this complaint lodged by his new solicitors last week mentions being roughed up, but also claims he was high on drugs, deprived of food and water, and denied his right to a solicitor.
08:00Are there any mention of those in the report?
08:01No.
08:03Well, not as far as I can see, anyway.
08:04Is that the basis of his leave to appeal?
08:06Oh, no.
08:07Local rags found someone.
08:10Old friend of Dick's, who is now willing to testify that he and Dick's were out of their minds on a combination of dope and ecstasy at the time he was picked up.
08:17Says he would still have been bombed when he made his confession.
08:21Well, it's a bit hard to prove after two years, isn't it?
08:24I'm surprised they granted them leave to appeal.
08:26Any other force but South Lancashire, and they wouldn't have.
08:29So where do we start, then?
08:30I want you to go and talk to this new witness, Dick's friend Clive, whatever his name is.
08:35We're going to talk to Dick's.
08:49He's a bastard.
08:50He's always had it in for me, harassing me.
08:52Did you never think of complaining?
08:54Do me a favour.
08:55I got phone.
08:57I stole my first Vauxhall when I was 12.
08:59We complained.
09:01Someone fills us in.
09:02What do you think he's standing there for?
09:06I think we'll be all right, officer.
09:09Good enough.
09:15All right, so did the day you were raised?
09:16Yeah.
09:17You got a fag?
09:18We've been in the pub.
09:33Then we went up with mates, and Clive has done some E.
09:35How much?
09:36Tab each.
09:37We had a good bit of blow and all.
09:39I reckon it was that that did me yet.
09:41Went to take the eye load, it was over I went to Huckabow.
09:44Hello.
09:44Clive?
09:45Yeah.
09:47For fresh air?
09:48Most of the things.
09:50Such as?
09:52You ever done ecstasy?
09:54I fancied a bird.
09:57So walked about a bit.
09:58Then Kendrick came up to me.
10:00Where was this?
10:01New Brighton, Victoria Road.
10:03At about four in the afternoon?
10:05Yeah.
10:05Kendrick says nine o'clock, lying bastard.
10:08He grabbed me, took me down the docks.
10:11I'll tell you I was freaked.
10:12Did he caution you?
10:13He grabbed me arm and said, right, you little shit, we're going to talk.
10:16Is that a caution?
10:19He just told me I was going to solve this little problem with all the post office jobs.
10:23He said they had to be down with someone, and it was going to be me.
10:26Then what happened?
10:27We went through the docks to the water, and he killed his mate McPherson.
10:31They put me in the car, and we drove like hours.
10:35I watched the hours go by.
10:38They talked to me.
10:39Kendrick smacked me a few times.
10:41Where did that take you?
10:42Egbert Nick.
10:44You knew it?
10:45No, never been there before.
10:47Arnfield, Vizaccaley, Huskerson Street.
10:49Been to all those, but never Egbert.
10:52Egbert?
10:52Miles have me beaten.
10:57Make yourself a knock, eh, sir.
11:01I suppose we got there around six.
11:13Still light.
11:14Sort of condition, would you say, Warren?
11:17Are you kidding me?
11:18I was tired, high as a kite, scared, freaked.
11:22This big bastard's knocking the shit out of me.
11:24The old place stank of piss and spew.
11:27Well?
11:30I think you're right.
11:32Now listen to the confession tape again.
11:38Apart from the robbery at New Brighton this morning,
11:42were there any other robberies you wanted to tell us about?
11:45Er, just, er, three more.
11:51He sounds rough.
11:52He does, doesn't he?
11:57Mind you, it was midnight, he was scared, and he'd been drinking.
12:01Then he shouldn't have been interviewed.
12:03What's Kendrick meant to do?
12:04Breathalise him?
12:05Hmm, maybe.
12:08Everyone knows probably half the statements we take involve people who are over the legal drink drive limit.
12:13Then they shouldn't be interviewed.
12:14So do you know the guy who arrested him?
12:16Kendrick?
12:17Oh, yeah.
12:18We all know Kendrick.
12:20He had it in for us, you know.
12:22Especially Dixie.
12:24He'd been assiling us in the pub that lunchtime.
12:26Well, so you weren't surprised at him when he was picked up that afternoon.
12:30Tell you what surprised me.
12:32Him confessing to the Bevington job.
12:34I mean, he couldn't have done the New Brighton job because he was fishing that morning.
12:38But he definitely didn't do the Bevington job because he was with me.
12:42There's no way he did it.
12:43No way.
12:44Yet he confessed to it.
12:47It stinks.
12:49So he didn't do the New Brighton job and he definitely couldn't have done the Bevington job?
12:53Yeah.
12:54And did you testify to this at the trial?
12:56Oh, yeah.
12:57He's pleading guilty and I walk in and say he didn't do it.
13:00Yeah, I thought he'd done a deal or something.
13:02I left it alone.
13:03I don't know.
13:07Hey, sir, can you see the state of my cell?
13:19All right, sir.
13:27And two cuts and a swelling on bottom lip.
13:31One cut almost an inch long should have been stitched.
13:33So this is the day after he arrived in prison, two days after his arrest?
13:39Yes.
13:42How old were the injuries?
13:44Well, this is not a matter of fact, merely opinion.
13:47But I felt that at least a day old, probably two or three.
13:50Could have been self-inflicted.
13:52Quite possible.
13:53Could have happened since he arrived at the prison.
13:56Less possible.
13:57Is it true you gave him the original photo?
13:58Yes, with the governor's permission.
14:07Look at the black eyes.
14:11These are different.
14:13Yes.
14:14The newspaper photo has been enhanced.
14:17Were you called at the trial?
14:18No.
14:19An incident room.
14:20Definitely a silver gun.
14:24Thanks very much.
14:26Oh, yes.
14:27We'll keep you informed.
14:30Defense lawyers.
14:31They're convinced Dix didn't do the Whirl job.
14:33What are they going on?
14:34The part of his statement covering the Whirl only amounts to about 50 words.
14:37It could easily have been given him by Kendrick.
14:40The eyewitnesses described a tall man with a dark blue helmet and a silver gun.
14:44The other three jobs are almost spot on in their descriptions of Dix.
14:47And in each case, refer to a black helmet and a black gun.
14:52Just relax, will you?
14:53I've told you, it's all sorted.
14:55Shouldn't we just...
14:56Look!
14:57Just do as you're told.
15:01Come and that bastard are everywhere.
15:05Excuse me.
15:05Good evening, all.
15:11More than half the case is under investigation.
15:13We're brought to light by her.
15:15Didn't she start the whole shooting match in the first place?
15:17More or less.
15:18She certainly relaunched the Dix case.
15:21She's either one sharp cookie or she's got an insider.
15:24Or both.
15:25Someone should see her.
15:27You talking about that girl from the Liverpool press?
15:29Yeah.
15:30I saw her today.
15:32What the talk she'd like.
15:33I was having a chat with that friend of Dix down at New Brighton.
15:36She was working.
15:39Well, either that or she's got a market research job on the side.
15:44Cracking looking bird, I'll give her that.
15:47Well, I think it's about time I had a chat with Ms. Cope.
15:50You don't think it'd be better if I did?
15:52No.
15:54No, better if it was me.
15:56I'm not interested.
15:58I just thought we could have a chat.
16:01Did you?
16:02I'm afraid I'm not interested in being lobbied by coppers.
16:05Well, I'm from CIB.
16:07It's a section of the police force devoted entirely to the investigation of bent coppers.
16:12I don't like bent coppers.
16:13And I want any help I can get in nailing them.
16:16Good.
16:16Very, very good.
16:17I can still smell white tush.
16:22That is not how you spell the problem.
16:24Can't I just take you out for a meal and talk about it?
16:26Don't make me laugh, caveman.
16:30Don't make me laugh.
16:31You stand there behaving like a two-legged rottweiler.
16:34Can you call me primitive?
16:38You want to buy me a meal?
16:41Eight o'clock tomorrow.
16:42Frank's in the dock road.
16:44Get those photos up here, quick.
16:46That's a.m., by the way.
16:488 a.m.
16:50Don't be late.
16:52How's this for a heading?
16:54Police stop white man in car.
16:56Now that is a scoop.
17:00Scrambled eggs.
17:01Scrambled.
17:02One egg or two?
17:03How do you scramble one egg?
17:05Two scrambled.
17:07Toasted.
17:08Yes, two.
17:09Two toasted.
17:10Tea?
17:11Yes, please.
17:12Not too milky.
17:13It's a great local band from the 80s and 90s.
17:21Like it?
17:28Um, not particularly.
17:30I do.
17:32It's unpretentious.
17:33Honest.
17:33In that case, I don't know what either of us is doing here.
17:38What do you want?
17:40I want to know three things.
17:42One, how bent is the Southlank's serious crime squad?
17:46Very.
17:48Two, if we caught a self-confessed mass murderer,
17:52would it be possible in the present climate,
17:55and all right with you, for us to put him away?
17:58No.
17:59No?
18:00It's not your job to put him away.
18:01It's the court's job.
18:03Do we pass?
18:05You had a third question.
18:08Can I speak to your insider?
18:10I don't have an insider.
18:11And if you did?
18:12Oh.
18:12If I did, I wouldn't tell you.
18:15You have an insider because you have unearthed more information.
18:18From the entire Metropolitan Police investigating team.
18:21Where there's a will, there's a way.
18:22No, you've got an insider.
18:25Woman's intuition?
18:27Sexist bollocks.
18:28Why do you dislike us so much?
18:34Because during the West Midlands investigation and this one,
18:36you have not put a single policeman away.
18:39That's not our job.
18:40It's the court's job.
18:43Two scramble beds.
18:44It's a joke.
19:05I know.
19:07Still lost.
19:12I'm sorry.
19:13I'm sorry.
19:15My last interview over Rem.
19:17Tony Clark.
19:18Sergeant Boynton.
19:19Police fed Rem.
19:20He looks scurred, but drugs or drink, no.
19:26Did you know?
19:27You of him.
19:28When you've been in the force in one city for 30 years,
19:30you get to know or know of most of the people who crop up.
19:34Teddy Dix is one of them.
19:35So you remember clearly what happened when Kendrick and McPherson brought him in?
19:39Pretty clearly.
19:40I signed him in when they arrived a couple of minutes after 10pm.
19:44I asked him whether he required a solicitor.
19:47He made to sign the box indicating no solicitor.
19:49I checked whether that was what he wanted, and he said yes.
19:53Would it surprise you if he'd told us that he repeatedly asked for a solicitor all through that evening
19:58and was very disturbed that a solicitor didn't arrive until 10.30 the following morning,
20:0211 hours after he made his confession?
20:05No, sir.
20:06He's a liar.
20:08Would you be surprised to hear that the custody records for that day cannot be found?
20:13The records are usually destroyed after 18 months to two years.
20:16I'd be surprised if they still existed.
20:19Do you resent me asking you these questions?
20:24As far as I'm concerned, there are two or three officers under investigation by your mob
20:28that I'd be pleased to see put down for a decent stretch.
20:31But Kendrick...
20:32Kendrick's the best.
20:33He's the best.
20:35So yes, I do resent it.
20:36My client, Detective Constable McPherson, has prepared a written statement
20:42and has asked me to indicate that he doesn't wish to speak at this time.
20:54Fair enough.
20:55Poynton was superb.
21:01A dream defence witness.
21:02Upright, indignant, believable.
21:05And D.C. McPherson?
21:07He exercised his option to remain silent.
21:09Any idea why?
21:10Probably because Poynton or Kendrick thought that he wouldn't be a dream witness.
21:14What about dicks?
21:15Two things, really.
21:16Totally untrustworthy and totally believable.
21:20There is also a reporter with a more or less 100% hit rate who thinks she smells a rat.
21:28You still haven't spoken to Kendrick?
21:31No, I'm going to leave him till next week.
21:33He's at the centre of it.
21:34I want to know everything there is to know before I see him.
21:36Sir, look at this.
21:37I got the pocketbooks of everyone on the duty's day.
21:40P.C. Alfred's, 2nd June.
21:4220,000 hours, glass of water and bog paper to prisoner.
21:45From what we know without the custody sheets,
21:47there was no other prisoner apart from dicks
21:49and he wasn't supposed to arrive till 2200 hours.
21:52Check it out with Alfred's ASAP.
21:54Call for you, Guff.
21:57In my job, I see the absolute bottom of the barrel
21:59and I've only ever seen a handful of coppers in bed, really bed.
22:04The rest are just ordinary people who care.
22:09Somehow people don't believe that anymore.
22:11I don't know what we have to do to persuade them.
22:13Start with me.
22:14Persuade me.
22:15I'd like to try.
22:18I'll do a deal with you.
22:20I'll give you what my informer gave me if you'll use it.
22:23Of course I will.
22:24It makes all your three officers guilty of conspiracy
22:27to pervert the course of justice, amongst other things.
22:30That's why I'm here.
22:32It's what I do for a living.
22:33Dick, you really do believe we've been brought here to cover up, don't you?
22:38Dicks was picked up at 6pm, not after 9.
22:41He was roughed up and taken to Egber,
22:43a long way from being the nearest station.
22:46The custody sergeant was an old pal of Kendrick's.
22:49Dicks was still high, but not so out of it
22:51that he didn't on repeated occasions ask for a solicitor.
22:55When his solicitor finally arrived in the morning,
22:57Dicks told him he'd been beaten, intimidated and kept cold and hungry.
23:00After several hours of this treatment,
23:03he had signed a confession which had been dictated to him
23:06before the taped interview.
23:08Strong stuff.
23:11Eyewitness or hearsay?
23:15Is your informer reliable?
23:16Uh, you probably don't remember this, but, uh...
23:27Yeah.
23:31June 2nd, 1990, you were on the late shift.
23:34You wrote,
23:34Twenty-hundred hours.
23:37Glass of water bog roll to the prisoner.
23:39You don't remember the name of the prisoner, do you?
23:41Dicks.
23:43You've got a good memory.
23:44Not really, it's just been in all the papers.
23:47Were you aware of anything unusual at the time?
23:49Look, if this is going to become an interview,
23:51I'll have to have my solicitor.
23:52Yeah, fair call.
23:53You wrote,
23:55Twenty-hundred hours.
23:58But, Dicks,
23:59you weren't picked up until twenty-two hundred hours.
24:01I'd only been in the force a couple of months,
24:03I kept writing down ten p.m. as twenty-hundred hours.
24:06I still do it now sometimes.
24:08Yeah, that's a common mistake, you know.
24:09What's going on?
24:37Hi, um, two-one-two, please.
24:54I've been I want to play pathetic, infantile little games.
24:58I'm sorry.
24:59I'm sorry.
25:00It's just stupid,
25:02stupid codes of conduct stuff.
25:07I'm sorry.
25:08I'm sorry.
25:37I'm sorry.
25:37Oh, no, no, I'll come down.
26:07If someone's come up, I'll be back in a tick.
26:16Don't answer the phone.
26:19Don't go away.
26:24I just don't believe you.
26:28You're bloody mad.
26:30I told you.
26:32Bloody Deacon is here.
26:33You could have me thrown out the force.
26:35Why didn't you answer my messages?
26:36I told you it's over.
26:37Well, it may be for you, but it's not that easy.
26:41I can't just...
26:42Oh, Christ.
26:46I'm sorry, Tony.
26:47I couldn't stop myself.
26:50I thought you'd be pleased.
26:53I'm sorry, but I'm not.
26:59You got your car here?
27:00Somewhere to stay?
27:08All right.
27:10We'll find you somewhere.
27:12Come on.
27:12We'll find you somewhere else.
27:13We'll find you somewhere else.
27:13We'll find you somewhere else.
27:14We'll find you somewhere else.
27:15We'll find you somewhere else.
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27:21We'll find you somewhere else.
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27:24We'll find you somewhere else.
27:25We'll find you somewhere else.
27:26We'll find you somewhere else.
27:27We'll find you somewhere else.
27:28We'll find you somewhere else.
27:29We'll find you somewhere else.
27:30We'll find you somewhere else.
27:31We'll find you somewhere else.
27:32Oh, my God.
28:02Oh, good. Thank you.
28:03Yeah, I thought you handled it very well, sir.
28:05Forget the sir here, Tony. It's Trevor.
28:07Thank you, Trevor.
28:08We do need to do a good deal of work on our public image.
28:11Hello, Tony. Have a nice rest up in Liverpool.
28:14I also heard you on the radio talking about a non-adversarial system of trial.
28:18No, that really was a debate.
28:20I think you've got your point across.
28:21Do you think so?
28:22Oh, yes. It's something one wouldn't normally think about.
28:25Well, not as a layman, anyway.
28:27And yet it's so obvious.
28:29Is it I missed the radio thing?
28:31Well, how can the police be seen as impartial
28:33when the heart of their job within the present judicial system
28:36is to prove that members of the public are guilty?
28:40Do you want a job?
29:01Are they actual sore, lad?
29:04Could all the bloody save you lot with your big bloody feet?
29:09Early bird?
29:12Two early birds.
29:14Who's the worm?
29:15I hope it's Dick's.
29:20I'm afraid it might turn out to be Kendrick.
29:23Cutting up, is it?
29:25Well, it's a little bit circumstantial, but it's building into a case.
29:28I was going to phone you, ask you for advice about how to proceed.
29:31Oh, yeah, now.
29:33What do Messrs. Dunning and Huxtable have to say?
29:36You don't miss much, do you?
29:37Almost nothing.
29:40I can even tell you what they've said.
29:42Offer up the heads of all bent coppers on a silver salver
29:45as a sacrifice to Mr. Bloody Dunning's media career.
29:48List of it?
29:49So what do I do?
29:50Stop the investigation, let them off?
29:52It's not in your gift.
29:54Whether you like it or not, you are the judge and the jury.
29:58We all are.
30:00Think how much they like it when they're stopped, say, for speeding
30:03and they get off with a verbal warning.
30:06You decide what to tell me, don't you?
30:09Naylor decides what to tell you.
30:11So does Dick's.
30:12So does Kendrick.
30:15PCA, the press, disgusted of Tunbridge Wells.
30:18All judge and jury.
30:19Now, the reason you're here is because we think you're smart enough
30:22and somewhere inside strong enough not to be a liability.
30:28Sounds rather negative.
30:31Yeah, well, that's a sodding compliment.
30:33This bird rang for you.
30:37You bastard.
30:38What?
30:39Don't come the innocent with me.
30:40You nobbled my informer.
30:43I did what?
30:44Oh, shameless.
30:45The moment I'd spoken to you.
30:46Christ knows how you did it, but you got to him.
30:48Did I?
30:49Did I?
30:49Your two gorillas were on him in a trice.
30:51Now he's clammed up.
30:52He's wild with me.
30:53Thinks I handed him over to you and...
30:55Alfred's.
30:59That's a coincidence.
31:00They found his pocketbook.
31:02I don't believe you.
31:02It's true.
31:06Shit.
31:08It's my turn to deal.
31:09I won't tell anyone who he is if he agrees to talk to me face to face.
31:14Off the record.
31:15Certainly, but I'd need my inspector present.
31:17Why?
31:18Because without him it would be useless.
31:19Well, that is exactly why he wouldn't agree to it.
31:22Then I blow his cover.
31:23Then I stick to everything I said.
31:24You are a bastard.
31:25It seems from the taped interview, now referred to as the Confession, that you'd spoken to
31:34Dix before the interview began.
31:37Yes, sir.
31:38Yes?
31:39Yes, sir.
31:40Under caution?
31:42Yes, sir.
31:42Where's the tape?
31:44The machine was faulty at the time, sir.
31:46I took contemporaneous notes.
31:48Ah.
31:50Where are they?
31:51They were sent, along with all the other evidence, to the Crime Prosecution Service.
31:56Were they used in court?
31:58I don't know, sir.
32:01It was the CPS's decision.
32:04Were these notes signed by Dix?
32:06I think not, sir.
32:08Where are they now?
32:09Ask the CPS.
32:11We have.
32:16Dix's facial injuries.
32:17How did he come by then?
32:19Self-inflicted.
32:20Are you serious?
32:21You're facing a charge which could send you down for 10, 15 or 20 years.
32:27If you smack yourself in the eye or headbutt the bock, there's an outside chance you might
32:32just walk in a week.
32:34Wouldn't you do it?
32:36Did you write down details of the robberies to Jog Dix's memory?
32:40No, sir.
32:41Were you aware that he was under the influence of drugs?
32:44No, sir.
32:45Did you interview him for several hours before Poynton checked him in?
32:48No.
32:49Did you deny him access to a solicitor?
32:51No.
32:52Beat him?
32:53No.
32:53Deny him food?
32:54I think you did most or all of these things.
33:00Prove it.
33:03So why didn't the solicitor lodge a complaint for Dix?
33:06I'm not sure.
33:08But he knew Kendrick.
33:10He was certainly on first name terms.
33:12I do know he advised the lad to keep shtomp, don't make waves, plead guilty and save your
33:18time.
33:19And the kid bought him.
33:20Did you give Miss Cope all the stuff about the Serious Crime Squad?
33:24Some of it.
33:26Why?
33:27Because the place is a mess.
33:29Yeah, but why the press?
33:30Why not tell a senior officer?
33:31Because I didn't know how high I'd have to go to get out of the shit.
33:35And it doesn't matter how high you go, nobody likes a narc.
33:39Do the inspector.
33:43I'll comment.
33:45But you won't speak.
33:47No.
33:48You blow my cover, I leave the force and don't say a word.
33:53This is much more like it.
33:55They even give you slippers.
33:57You won't blow his cover, will you?
34:03You know I won't.
34:05Yes.
34:07And Naylor?
34:08He did hate him, didn't he?
34:10Yep.
34:11But he won't shop him.
34:14Why can't we spend the night at your flat?
34:16Because you can't get room service.
34:20And the bed's bigger here.
34:27You've got enough to do them now, haven't you?
34:29What?
34:30Oh, Kendrick?
34:31No, not at all.
34:33We may have enough to convince us,
34:35but the CPS would need a great deal more
34:37before they decide to bring a case to court.
34:39What a shame.
34:41What you need is another witness.
34:48You up to something?
34:57Hey.
35:10When did you find him?
35:11Last week.
35:13Why didn't you tell me?
35:14Why didn't you tell me you were married?
35:17So what time did you see Kendrick and Dix?
35:21Between 5.30 and 6.
35:23I was closing up the shop, see?
35:24I remember because there was a bit
35:27in the next day's evening paper
35:29and I realised that's what I'd seen the day before.
35:33That's not exactly a regular daily occurrence
35:35to see someone getting picked up for armed robbery.
35:38Not even in New Brighton.
35:41I'm battered a pair of...
35:42Go on, pick on someone your own size.
35:46Hello.
35:47He's coming.
35:48Yeah, he is.
35:49Who is it?
35:50For you, Bill.
35:51Someone called Clark.
35:54You know I won't speak to you without my solicitor.
36:00I appreciate that, Bill.
36:02I want to talk to you without prejudice
36:03and completely off the record.
36:05It's getting too hot now.
36:07I regret it.
36:08I want to talk about damage limitation.
36:11You are in no position to deal
36:14and you know it.
36:16Aren't I?
36:17Well, if you don't come to the pub
36:18around the corner from your house
36:19in the next 20 minutes,
36:20you'll never know, will you?
36:21I'll be straight with you.
36:50I'm stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea.
36:54I can't just drop this case.
36:56I've got too close.
36:57Too many people are waiting for a result.
36:59But I honestly don't want a full-scale,
37:02no-holds-barred scrap
37:04because I believe all three of you will go down
37:06and Dix will get out.
37:09I don't agree.
37:11It's because you don't know how close we are to you.
37:13I don't know how close we are to you.
37:15I don't know how close we are to you.
37:16I don't know how close we are to you.
37:17We have the original complaint.
37:19We then have a witness who will testify that Dix was high.
37:22We now have a witness who will testify
37:24that he saw you behaving roughly towards Dix
37:27three to four hours before you admit speaking to him.
37:30We have the prison doctor.
37:33We have the solicitor advising Dix
37:35who turns out to have been a friend of yours.
37:39We have a confession to one job
37:41that doesn't match the eyewitness details.
37:44We have Macpherson
37:45who I believe will crack under pressure.
37:48A lot
37:53of hot air
37:55wouldn't frighten anyone
37:57even if they were guilty.
38:01And we have an inside informer
38:03who is now willing to testify
38:05that he saw Dix in Egbeth and Nick
38:07at least two hours before Poynton signed him in.
38:12Producing.
38:13I will.
38:15But first I wanted to offer you something.
38:18If you admit to taking Dix to the river
38:22thumping him
38:23and being aware that he was high
38:24I will not spring the informer
38:27and Macpherson and Poynton
38:29will not be implicated.
38:32There's every chance that
38:33they won't be touched
38:34or we'll just get advice.
38:36There's every chance that you
38:38will just get a caution.
38:40I can't promise you
38:41that you won't be kicked out
38:42but frankly in view of your record
38:44I think you'd swing it.
38:46And Dix?
38:48Well that's up to the appeal call.
38:52Funny old world
38:54isn't it?
38:56Yeah.
38:59No deal.
39:01What's all this nonsense
39:02about suspending Poynton, Kendrick and Macpherson?
39:04I will not suspend offices
39:07on the basis of circumstantial bits and pieces.
39:09You don't think the CPS have enough to build a case?
39:12No.
39:13This new witness may have tipped the scales
39:14in favour of prosecution.
39:16What about the theory
39:17that the newspaper reporter Cope
39:19has an informer inside the force?
39:21From some of the leads she's come up with
39:22there's no doubt about it.
39:25You've been trying to weedle your way in there.
39:27Any progress?
39:28Well I've spoken to her.
39:31Naturally she won't reveal her sources
39:32or if she has any.
39:33I don't mind saying that I'm not happy
39:36about the way this is going.
39:37I've got enough headaches
39:38without this little mole ill
39:39turning into a ruddy mountain.
39:41Are you saying you want me
39:42to stop the investigation?
39:43Well maybe you didn't do it.
39:51Oh well well well well.
39:54Do you know that's the first time
39:55since we've been on this case
39:57that anyone has bothered to ask the question
39:58did the little bastard rob those post officers?
40:02And of course he did didn't he?
40:03We all know he did.
40:05It's just possible he may not have done the Wirral job
40:07but how many others has he done
40:08that we don't know about eh?
40:09Well that's not exactly the point.
40:11Well if putting villains behind bars
40:13isn't the point
40:13I don't know what I'm doing the job for.
40:15Well it's how you do it.
40:16If we don't play it by the book
40:18we just become vigilantes.
40:19Jeez you're beginning to sound like
40:21a bedfella of yours.
40:28Did you tell Deacon?
40:31I should have.
40:32I should have told him a lot of things
40:34but I used my judgment.
40:35Does that make me a vigilante?
40:37No.
40:38Well you'll excuse me governor
40:40but I think you're being a bit naive.
40:43That little shit's lethal.
40:48Right so they slapped him around a bit
40:50but they got a confession.
40:54So he was scared for an hour or so
40:56and they bent the rules.
40:58But how scared were the little old ladies
41:00he waved guns in front of eh?
41:02How scared were the little kids
41:04he forced to lie down on the floor?
41:06How many nightmares?
41:07How many wet beds?
41:11Nah if Kendrick played it by the book
41:13he would never have got him.
41:19And Art Dix has got you
41:20me
41:22half the bloody men
41:23the PCA
41:25the CPS
41:26the DPP
41:26his lawyer
41:28the papers
41:29the officers under question
41:30the courts
41:32all running around
41:33like beheaded chickens
41:34and for the first time
41:35three minutes ago
41:36someone
41:37you
41:37bothered to ask
41:39did the little bastard
41:42do it?
41:43what's wrong?
41:56what's wrong?
41:59big question
42:00is it you and me?
42:05what?
42:13you must be fairly close
42:15by now
42:16aren't you?
42:17no
42:17if I push on
42:19I might get closer
42:20I might not
42:20you're worried
42:21because you think
42:23Dix did it
42:23all those bastards
42:27who beat up
42:27the Birmingham Six
42:28you've seen the pictures
42:29they all knew
42:31they were guilty
42:32and now we
42:32know
42:33they weren't
42:34no one
42:35no one has the right
42:36to do that
42:37to someone
42:37in a civilised society
42:39least of all policemen
42:40that's completely different
42:41no it isn't
42:42they think they have
42:44the right to be judge
42:44and jury
42:45well you don't
42:46you don't in South Africa
42:47you don't in Chile
42:47you don't in Romania
42:48and surely
42:49for Christ's sakes
42:50you don't hear
42:52I'm gonna make a statement
42:56because the longer
42:58this
42:58and other
42:59investigations
43:00go on
43:02the more mud
43:03gets thrown
43:03and mud sticks
43:06believe me
43:07it sticks
43:08you
43:11and your team
43:13your
43:15journalist friend
43:17my god
43:20you're naive
43:21we're all detectives
43:24you know
43:24did you prefer
43:25the Adelphi hotel
43:26the free slippers
43:29I could use that
43:32I could offer you
43:35a deal
43:35but I won't
43:38I did bring him
43:42down here
43:43to the docks
43:44and I was
43:46aware
43:46that he was high
43:48I could hardly
43:49fail to be
43:50when I saw him
43:52in Victoria Road
43:53at about
43:54six o'clock
43:55he was so
43:57freaked out
43:58he just surrendered
43:58himself to me
43:59he couldn't
44:01stop talking
44:02but I knew
44:04that I couldn't
44:05take him in
44:06in that state
44:07so I decided
44:09to walk him
44:11around a bit
44:11I never hit him
44:15not then
44:16not later
44:18and nor
44:19did anyone else
44:20I bought him
44:23a McDonald's
44:24and a coffee
44:25and when I thought
44:27he'd sobered up
44:28enough
44:28I rang
44:31McPherson
44:32we booked him
44:34in at Egberth
44:35when we said
44:36we did
44:37we fed him
44:38gave him some
44:40water
44:40and asked him
44:41if he wanted
44:42a solicitor
44:42and that
44:45is all
44:47that is to it
44:48now you can't
44:52touch the other
44:52two
44:53because they
44:55didn't do
44:55anything
44:55and me
44:56well
44:56I walked
44:58a man
44:58who said
45:00he'd committed
45:01several armed
45:02robberies
45:03around a bit
45:04I fed him
45:06hamburgers
45:06and coffee
45:07and presumed
45:09to my last
45:09in shame
45:10that it was
45:11my duty
45:12not
45:14to lose him
45:15but to get him
45:16to confess
45:17so he could be
45:19put somewhere
45:20where he wouldn't
45:22kill
45:22an innocent
45:23person
45:24mea culpa
45:25mea
45:26maxima
45:27culpa
45:28and you know
45:32something else
45:32we never did
45:36find the gun
45:37chilling
45:40isn't it
45:42you broke
45:46the rules
45:47liverpool press
45:59oh
46:00hello
46:03hello
46:05tony
46:05hello miss cope
46:07what can i do
46:08for you
46:08now there's a question
46:09are you ever heard
46:11yes
46:12oh good
46:13first
46:15you can take me
46:16to a nice sunny beach
46:17under some palm trees
46:18oh yes
46:19then you can
46:21undress me
46:23yes yes
46:24that should be fine
46:25when
46:26Thursday
46:27i'm coming down to
46:27london for the appeal
46:28hearing
46:28meet you outside
46:29fine what time
46:30two o'clock
46:31by the way
46:32kendrick pointed
46:34them at first
46:34son
46:35have all been
46:35suspended
46:35word is
46:37the cps
46:37is going to
46:38prosecute
46:38in the light of the new evidence
47:02i can do nothing
47:05except throw out
47:07this confession
47:08and the subsequent
47:09conviction
47:10as wholly
47:12unsafe
47:13i will make
47:16no comment
47:17on what action
47:19should be taken
47:20against the officers
47:22concerned
47:23as this is now
47:25in the hands
47:26of the department
47:28of public
47:29prosecutions
47:30i will
47:32just say
47:33that it is
47:35a black day
47:36indeed
47:37when
47:38an innocent
47:39man
47:40is imprisoned
47:42in this manner
47:44innocent
47:45until proven
47:46guilty
47:47in a court
47:47of law
47:47i therefore
47:48recommend
47:49you can't believe
47:51that he might have
47:51been innocent
47:52can you
47:52i suppose not
47:54maybe he was just
47:55showing off to his
47:56friends and taunting
47:57kendrick
47:57maybe kendrick
48:00really did beat
48:01a confession
48:01out of him
48:02i believe kendrick
48:03i don't
48:04i'm not sure
48:05i believe dicks
48:06either
48:06but i'm glad
48:07he's been given
48:07the benefit
48:08of the doubt
48:08my trial next
48:12i expect
48:15you'll be there
48:16yes
48:17you'll get off
48:19will i
48:20both times
48:22what do you mean
48:24were tried
48:26twice
48:28once by the courts
48:30and once by the police
48:32you'll get off
48:34i wish i shared your confidence
48:38and you
48:40what will you get
48:43for tampering with evidence
48:45the photograph of dicks
48:48that led to the public outrage
48:50that led to the appeal
48:53you even blacked in the wrong eye
48:55funny old world
48:58isn't it
49:01mr. dicks
49:15mr. dicks
49:15here he is
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