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00:00From 30 Rockefeller Plaza in New York,
00:09it's Late Night with Seth Meyers.
00:12Tonight, Jonathan Bailey.
00:15Star of A Man on the Inside, actress Mary Steenburgen.
00:18An all-new Closer Look.
00:25And now, Seth Meyers.
00:27Good evening, everybody.
00:29I'm Seth Meyers.
00:30It's Late Night.
00:31We hope you're doing well.
00:32And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news.
00:34The Senate unanimously passed a bill last night
00:36ordering the Justice Department to release the Epstein files
00:39and sent the legislation to President Trump's desk.
00:43We'll see what happens, but I find it hard to believe
00:45that the guy who signed this is going to sign that.
00:51It's like, well, this is a real full-circle moment.
00:54President Trump held a black-tie dinner last night
00:58in honor of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
01:02And the menu included honey nut squash soup
01:04with cranberry relish, spiced hazelnuts, broccoli rabe,
01:07and I'm guessing one grilled cheese?
01:12At the same dinner, President Trump said
01:14he has more than three and a quarter years left in office
01:17and added, quote,
01:18For the Trump, that's like an eternity.
01:20Oh, buddy, not just for the Trump.
01:24That's an eternity for the Myers, too.
01:29I would rather spend three and a quarter years
01:32stuck in an elevator with a ventriloquist
01:34and two of my exes.
01:41President Trump claimed yesterday
01:43that some state governments
01:44are trying to embed DEI ideology into AI models
01:48to produce, excuse me, woke AI
01:51and added, quote,
01:52Remember black George Washington?
01:55What?
01:56Oh, wait, does he think AI wrote Hamilton?
02:01While speaking today
02:02of the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum,
02:04President Trump acknowledged his daughter Tiffany
02:06and complained that her Georgetown University graduation
02:09got canceled due to COVID.
02:10Yeah, I'm sure you were real upset to miss that one.
02:14I wouldn't be surprised
02:15if you released the Wuhan bat yourself.
02:19Wuhan bat.
02:20We hardly ever talk about the old Wuhan bat anymore.
02:23Hello, old friend.
02:26While speaking on Monday
02:27at the McDonald's Impact Summit
02:28of Franchise Owners and Suppliers,
02:30President Trump bragged
02:32that he got Health and Human Services Secretary
02:34Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to eat a Big Mac.
02:37All he had to do was run it over with his car first.
02:39A New Jersey Zoo recently opened
02:44a new medical treatment room
02:45with large windows
02:47so that visitors can observe veterinarians
02:49treating exotic animals.
02:50Great.
02:51Now he's even less likely
02:53to get his prostate checked.
02:59Duncan recently released a new children's book
03:01to benefit the Duncan Joy
03:03and Childhood Foundation
03:04that follows one tiny munchkin donut hole treat
03:07on a journey of belonging and joy
03:09all the way from its birth in a bakery
03:12to its death in a gas station toilet.
03:23This little guy.
03:26I should have said spoiler alert.
03:28The head of the Louvre Museum
03:32announced yesterday
03:33they will install 100 new surveillance cameras
03:35and have them running by the end of the year
03:37and I'm being told someone just stole the cameras.
03:42An Idaho man recently broke the Guinness World Record
03:45for most bowling balls carried on a unicycle
03:47as well as the record for most shattered pelvis.
03:52Poor Yorma.
03:53Yorma had it for...
03:54And finally, Taco Bell is set this week
03:57to launch its new fan-style menu
03:59which features three new menu items
04:01that were selected by customers.
04:02The items are Pepto-Bismol,
04:04Ammonia Mani,
04:04and Tums.
04:06And that was a monologue, everybody.
04:09We got a great show for you tonight.
04:11He's a fantastic actor.
04:13You know from Bridgerton,
04:14fellow travelers,
04:15and Jurassic World Rebirth.
04:16Currently, he's starring in Wicked for Good,
04:18which will be in theaters at IMAX on November 21st.
04:21One of our favorites, Jonathan Bailey,
04:22is back on the show, you guys.
04:24She's an outstanding actress.
04:27You know from The Last Man on Earth,
04:29as well as films like Elf, Step Brothers,
04:31and Parenthood,
04:32she stars in A Man on the Inside,
04:33which kicks off its second season,
04:35November 20th, on Netflix.
04:37Our friend Mary Steenburgen is also joining us.
04:41Before we get to all that,
04:44Donald Trump lost his months-long battle
04:46to stop the release of the Epstein files on Tuesday
04:48when Congress passed a bill
04:50forcing the Justice Department to make them public.
04:53So now, Trump is doing a 180.
04:55He says he'll sign the bill
04:56that forces him to release the files
04:58he could have released on his own,
05:00but wouldn't, thus requiring a bill
05:02to force him to do the thing
05:03he didn't want to do,
05:05which he will now be forced to do
05:06because of the bill he was against
05:08that he will now sign.
05:10It makes sense to me.
05:11And for more on this,
05:12it's time for A Closer Look.
05:13You guys,
05:18Donald Trump wants to, you know,
05:19he's not mad at all
05:21about this Epstein bill passing.
05:23He's actually very cool with it.
05:24House Republicans should vote
05:26to release the Epstein files
05:27because we have nothing to hide,
05:29and it's time to move on
05:30from this Democrat hoax
05:31perpetrated by radical left lunatics
05:33in order to deflect
05:35from the great success
05:36of the Republican Party,
05:37including our recent victory
05:38on the Democrat shutdown.
05:40Now, farther down, he adds,
05:41and the House Oversight Committee
05:43can have whatever they are
05:44legally entitled to,
05:45I don't care.
05:47I'm going to say it.
05:48You sound like you care.
05:51If you don't care,
05:52then you just say,
05:52I don't care.
05:53You don't say it in all caps
05:55in a super long rage post.
05:57Also, nobody wants a president
05:59who doesn't care.
06:01After Pearl Harbor,
06:02FDR didn't say,
06:03a date that would live in infamy.
06:04For you, maybe.
06:05For me, it was just a regular Sunday.
06:06No skin off my nose.
06:10Didn't do a lot of work
06:11on my FDR impression.
06:13Earlier today, I was like,
06:14you should listen to him
06:15at least once,
06:16but, uh, I forgot.
06:19Anyway, the point is,
06:21Trump wants to make it crystal clear.
06:22He is in favor of signing this bill.
06:24I just want to be super clear
06:25on your position.
06:26Do you want to see that
06:27past the Senate?
06:28Would you sign that bill
06:29if it gets to your desk?
06:31I do want to say,
06:32here's what I want.
06:34We have nothing to do
06:36with Epstein.
06:36The Democrats do.
06:37All of his friends
06:38were Democrats.
06:40All I want is,
06:41I want for people
06:42to recognize a great job
06:43that I've done
06:44on pricing,
06:46on affordability,
06:47because we brought prices
06:48way down,
06:49but they're going way lower.
06:50Oh, are they?
06:51Because the other day,
06:52I went to the grocery store
06:53to buy some beef,
06:54some coffee,
06:54and some bananas,
06:55and the total came out
06:56to six gold bars.
06:58And yes,
06:59I was buying beef,
07:00bananas, and coffee,
07:01because my wife is out of town,
07:02and I don't know
07:03what my kids eat.
07:05Who wants banana burger lattes?
07:07No one?
07:08Great.
07:08Then I guess we'll all go hungry.
07:11The funny thing is,
07:12I could understand Trump
07:13being frustrated
07:13about the focus on Epstein
07:16if prices were going down,
07:17but they're not going down.
07:18He's basically saying,
07:19don't focus on this thing,
07:21focus on this other thing.
07:23Saying, I don't want Epstein
07:24to detract from prices
07:25like a lawyer saying,
07:26ladies and gentlemen,
07:27the jury,
07:27my client would never
07:28embezzle company funds.
07:29Just ask his wife
07:31if you can find her.
07:34She's been missing for weeks,
07:35and he was the last one
07:37to see her.
07:38Trump can't seem to get
07:40his story straight on prices.
07:41Today, he made the claim
07:42that he was making America
07:44affordable again
07:45before immediately shifting
07:46to how Democrats
07:47made up the word affordability.
07:50We're also making
07:50incredible strides
07:51to make America affordable again.
07:54That's a new word
07:55that they're using.
07:56Affordability,
07:56they talk...
07:57Afford...
07:58They had the worst inflation
07:59in history.
08:00They had the highest prices
08:01in history.
08:02The country was going to hell.
08:05The only thing
08:06that we're going up in
08:07is our stock market, okay?
08:09The only price
08:09that we really have.
08:10I mean, we're bringing
08:11prices down,
08:12but they came up
08:13with the new word,
08:14affordability.
08:15He says affordability
08:17like he's Tiny Tim
08:18complaining about the price
08:19of a Christmas goose.
08:21Please, Mr. Scrooge,
08:22can you do anything
08:23about the affordability?
08:25But we'll cut him
08:26some slack.
08:27This week's been hard
08:27on the president
08:28so hard that the press
08:29is asking him
08:30if he's feeling okay.
08:31Your voice sounds
08:32a little rough.
08:32Are you feeling all right?
08:33I feel great.
08:34I was shouting at people
08:36because they were stupid
08:38about something
08:39having to do with
08:40trade and a country,
08:43and I straightened it out.
08:45But I blew my stack
08:46at these people.
08:47These are so stupid.
08:48So you have a hoarse voice
08:50because you blew your stack
08:52screaming at stupid people.
08:53Again,
08:54not what we're looking for
08:56and a president.
08:56It would have been
08:57a lot less powerful
08:58if Abraham Lincoln had said,
08:59a house divided against itself
09:00cannot stand.
09:01And the same way
09:02I cannot stand,
09:03you stupid morons.
09:06Again,
09:06no work on my Lincoln.
09:09Hey, listen here.
09:10It's Abraham Lincoln,
09:10I tell you.
09:12I've heard it up to here.
09:13Where are you?
09:15So Trump's voice
09:16is in rough shape,
09:17but at least his hearing
09:18is great.
09:19Well, it sounds like
09:20there's a follow-up there,
09:20but can I ask you
09:21about Venezuela?
09:22You suggested...
09:22It sounds like
09:23there's a follow-up there,
09:24but can I ask you
09:25about Venezuela?
09:25You said there was a polyp,
09:27and I said...
09:28That's a whole different thing.
09:29I don't want to hear that.
09:31Why would he say
09:33there's a polyp?
09:35I know you don't like
09:36probing questions,
09:37but this isn't literally
09:38a colonoscopy.
09:40Did you forget
09:40where you were
09:41and think the reporter's
09:42asking you questions
09:43were doctors?
09:44Does the reverse happen
09:45when you go in
09:46for a physical?
09:47Do you think
09:47the doctor is a journalist?
09:49So, how's your diet
09:50been lately?
09:51Excuse me,
09:51that's a very nasty question
09:52in your fake news.
09:54And I'll have you know
09:55I've been eating
09:56lots of banana burger lattes.
09:59Maybe Trump was just
10:00screaming about
10:00how innocent he is.
10:02After all,
10:02as Trump explained,
10:03he barely spent
10:04any time with Jeffrey Epstein.
10:06I believe that
10:06many of the people
10:08that we...
10:09Some of the people
10:10that we mentioned
10:10are being looked at
10:12very seriously
10:13for their relationship
10:15to Jeffrey Epstein,
10:16but they were with him
10:17all the time.
10:18I wasn't.
10:19I wasn't at all.
10:20Yeah, Trump wasn't
10:21with Epstein at all
10:22besides that time
10:23Trump invited Epstein
10:24to his wedding
10:24or when he partied
10:25with him at Mar-a-Lago
10:26or when they posed
10:27for pictures together
10:28or when Trump's name
10:28appeared in Epstein's
10:29flight logs
10:30or when Trump called him
10:31a terrific guy
10:31or when Epstein called
10:32Trump his closest friend
10:34for 10 years,
10:34which, by the way,
10:35is incredible.
10:35Trump doesn't stay friends
10:36with anyone for 10 years.
10:37I mean, just think
10:38of all the people
10:39he's had a falling out with.
10:40Marjorie Taylor Greene
10:41dressed up like a tour guide
10:43at the Trump Museum
10:44and even they didn't
10:45make it 10 years,
10:46but Donnie and Jeff,
10:48baby, they were built to last.
10:49Everyone has seen
10:50the pictures of Trump
10:51with Epstein,
10:52especially if you happen
10:53to live near a castle
10:54in the UK.
10:55Protesters here overnight
10:56projecting a photo
10:57of President Trump
10:58alongside convicted
11:00sex offender
11:00Jeffrey Epstein
11:01on the walls of Windsor.
11:04And here's my question.
11:05Where do you get
11:06a projector that big?
11:08Is there a section
11:09at Best Buy
11:10called Castle-Sized Projectors
11:11for Embarrassing Presidents?
11:12Of course, in England,
11:13it's not called Best Buy.
11:14It's called Superior Purchase.
11:17Snobs!
11:20But, hey,
11:20those are just photos.
11:22Now we have Epstein's emails
11:23and I would have to imagine
11:24that if they weren't that close,
11:26Trump's name barely comes up at all.
11:29The good folks
11:29at Courier Newsroom
11:30have compiled
11:31all of the more than
11:3223,000 Epstein emails
11:34into a searchable database.
11:36And the one name
11:37that appears more than any other
11:39in all of those emails
11:40is Donald Trump's.
11:42The Wall Street Journal
11:43has even created
11:44a handy visualization guide
11:45to show just how much
11:47each figure is mentioned
11:48over time in these emails.
11:49The blue dots here
11:50represent each of the Epstein emails
11:52that mention
11:53former President Clinton.
11:55These ones represent
11:56each time the emails
11:57mention former Treasury Secretary
11:59Larry Summers.
12:00And these ones represent
12:01all the mentions
12:02of Donald Trump.
12:04Far more, by a lot.
12:06Yeah, I also wish
12:08it looked less like sperm.
12:09I do.
12:13Same page?
12:14Yeah, we're all on the same page.
12:16Also, I'm not even mentioned
12:18that much in my own emails.
12:20Mostly because people here
12:21at NBC can't remember my name.
12:25It's obvious why Trump
12:26fought so hard
12:26to stop this bill from passing.
12:28He called Republicans
12:28who supported it stupid,
12:30called the files a hoax
12:31made up by Democrats.
12:32His team held
12:33an emergency meeting
12:34in the White House Situation Room
12:36to sway Republicans
12:36to vote against it
12:37and he called
12:38Marjorie Taylor Greene
12:39a traitor.
12:40But Greene got the last word
12:42before the bill passed
12:43on Tuesday.
12:43I was called a traitor
12:45by a man that I fought
12:47for five,
12:49no, actually six years for.
12:51And he called me a traitor
12:52for standing with these women
12:54and refusing to take my name
12:56off the discharge petition.
12:58Let me tell you
12:59what a traitor is.
13:00A traitor is an American
13:02that serves foreign countries
13:05and themselves.
13:08Okay, but in fairness,
13:08she didn't say Trump's name.
13:09She could have been
13:10talking about anybody.
13:11I mean, maybe she was
13:12referring to a different president
13:13who does deals
13:14with foreign governments
13:15and had a secret
13:16Chinese bank account
13:17and got a crown
13:17from South Korea
13:18and a plane from Qatar
13:19and a gold bar
13:20from Switzerland,
13:20touched a mysterious,
13:22glowing orb in Saudi Arabia.
13:23That orb may have given
13:25Trump mystical powers,
13:26but like all magic spells,
13:28it's now clearly
13:28taking its toll.
13:29The weird ailments,
13:30the bad hearing,
13:31losing its voice,
13:32the orb giveth
13:33and the orb taketh away.
13:36But come on, seriously,
13:36who would make anyone think
13:38Trump serves
13:39foreign countries?
13:40This morning,
13:41President Trump
13:42welcoming Saudi Crown Prince
13:43Mohammed bin Salman
13:45to Washington.
13:46Saudi flags draping
13:47Pennsylvania Avenue.
13:48The president welcoming
13:49the Crown Prince
13:50with a lavish ceremony
13:51on the South Lawn.
13:52President Trump
13:53is hosting a lavish dinner
13:55for the Saudi Crown Prince.
13:56I just want to say
13:57it's an honor
13:58to be your friend.
13:58And I ask the Crown Prince,
14:01so outside of Trump,
14:04outside of Trump,
14:05because I blow everyone away,
14:06who was the best president
14:08for Saudi Arabia?
14:10We've worked with all presidents.
14:11Does Trump blow them all away?
14:13No, you,
14:14son of the league,
14:15Mr. President.
14:18Mr. President,
14:18and Trump doesn't give
14:20a fist pump.
14:21I grab that hand.
14:23I don't give a hell
14:24where that hand's been.
14:25I grab that hand.
14:26Wow, now we know
14:27what it looks like
14:28when Trump's not blowing his stack.
14:30He's giddy.
14:32That's so unsettling to see.
14:33It's like when you're a kid
14:34and you see your dad drunk
14:36for the first time.
14:37Is he singing
14:38Life is a Highway?
14:40Trump's whole vibe
14:41in this meeting
14:41is a reminder
14:42not to trust him
14:43when he tells you
14:43he cut ties with Epstein
14:44after learning
14:45the truth about him.
14:46That's Mohammed bin Salman.
14:48Jeffrey was my best friend,
14:49but he crossed the line
14:50and I cut him off.
14:51But luckily,
14:52I met a new best friend.
14:53You know him as MBS.
14:54I call him Bonesaw.
14:56Trump spent months
14:57desperately trying
14:58to stop this bill
14:59and lost.
15:00After election losses
15:01and dismal poll numbers,
15:02his power is waning,
15:03and even MAGA
15:04is splitting from him.
15:06And he can't change
15:06the subject to prices
15:07because no one believes
15:09he's sincere
15:09when he talks about
15:10affordability.
15:12This has been
15:13A Closer Look.
15:14We'll be right back
15:19with Jonathan Bailey.
15:25For more of
15:26Seth's Closer Looks,
15:27be sure to subscribe
15:28to Late Night
15:28on YouTube.
15:37Our first guest tonight
15:38is an Emmy-nominated actor.
15:40You know from his work
15:41in Bridgerton,
15:42Fellow Travelers,
15:43in Jurassic World Rebirth,
15:44who stars in
15:44the highly anticipated
15:45Wicked, if we're good,
15:47which will be in theaters
15:48and IMAX on November 21st.
15:49Let's take a look.
15:50You can't leave
15:51because you can't resist this.
15:55That's the truth.
15:59Maybe I can't.
16:03Is that so wrong?
16:05I mean, who could?
16:06You know who could.
16:07We both know who could
16:10and who has
16:11and I have to find her
16:12because if someone else
16:13gets there first,
16:14she's...
16:14Yeah, I'm worried
16:14for her too.
16:16And I miss her.
16:18Can't you see?
16:19She doesn't want to be found.
16:22You've got to face it.
16:25She's made her choice.
16:28Please welcome back to the show
16:29our friend Jonathan Bailey,
16:31everybody!
16:31Hello, friend.
16:48Welcome back.
16:49I'm so happy to see you.
16:50It's lovely to see you.
16:50I was very hopeful a year ago
16:53when you were here
16:53talking about part one
16:55of the Wicked franchise
16:55that you would join us again.
16:57So thank you.
16:58And it's the final stop.
16:59It's the final stop.
17:00The final conversation about Wicked franchise.
17:01And it's really amazing
17:02because, you know,
17:03the amount of time
17:04you put into making
17:04a movie like this,
17:05I think people underestimate
17:06the amount of time
17:07you do press for a movie like this.
17:08So this has been
17:09a big part of your life
17:10and obviously it helps
17:11that you're, it seems at least,
17:12you're a very close cast.
17:14We really are.
17:14Yeah, the press tours
17:15are incredible
17:16for so many different reasons.
17:18But, you know,
17:19I was talking to Jeff Goldblum today
17:21and we were doing
17:22our final interview together
17:23and we had one day on set,
17:25you know, filming.
17:26Yeah.
17:27That was shot over a year
17:28and then, uh,
17:29and now we've, you know,
17:30a beautiful friendship.
17:31You're on the road,
17:32you travel the world together,
17:32you get to share it
17:33with all the fans.
17:34That's amazing.
17:34With that said,
17:35you're probably ready
17:35for a break from all of them.
17:38I'm just saying, like,
17:39it does look like
17:40you've all become
17:41very codependent
17:42and I think you should all,
17:44you need to get out.
17:45I thought you were,
17:45I thought you were saying
17:46the fans.
17:46No, no, no, the fans.
17:48Not the fans.
17:49I mean, I'm just, look,
17:50I see Jeff Goldblum
17:51like twice a year
17:51and like, that's plenty.
17:53Oh.
17:54Do you know what?
17:55If I could live,
17:56I'd live in a little
17:56bothy in Jeff's garden
17:59and Jeff's affinity.
18:00He's such an amazing,
18:01mythical creature.
18:01I would like to be,
18:02I would like to be
18:03in Jeff's orbit.
18:03I think of anybody
18:04I've ever met.
18:05Some sort of planetary
18:06constellation.
18:06Just being able to, like,
18:07observe Jeff Goldblum
18:08for, like, an hour a day,
18:10I think.
18:10But he is like,
18:11he's like the sun.
18:12He sort of, you know,
18:13charges your batteries.
18:14Yeah.
18:15I think that's why
18:15he wears those glasses
18:17because he's so bright,
18:18his own eyes hurt.
18:20He radiates in such a frequency.
18:21We talked about
18:23your nieces and nephews.
18:24They're at the age now
18:25where I would imagine
18:26there's some real anticipation
18:27to seeing the new movie.
18:28Yeah, they're really excited.
18:29They're particularly excited,
18:31but I don't know who is more,
18:32either me or them,
18:32about the Lego pieces.
18:34Oh, yeah.
18:34Because I'm now a Lego,
18:36there's two Lego pieces.
18:37Yeah, that's really exciting.
18:38And a Barbie.
18:39And do they,
18:39do they actually, like,
18:41and it's right.
18:43With really long, luscious hair.
18:45Yeah, I mean, like,
18:46I've been on this show
18:46for 10 years,
18:47all I have is a mug.
18:49And let me tell you
18:50what kids aren't excited about.
18:51I'm like, who wants mugs?
18:53I'm going to create
18:54a little Seth Barbie.
18:55Oh, thank you.
18:55I would love that very much.
18:57You also, another one,
18:59Jurassic, well, you know,
19:00you did a Jurassic Park movie.
19:01I would imagine that's pretty cool
19:02for nieces and nephews as well.
19:03Yeah, they love it.
19:03I mean, they do.
19:04They love it.
19:04And it's amazing.
19:05You know, to be in these films
19:06that bring everyone
19:07to the cinema is incredible.
19:09It's a great honor.
19:10And, yeah, the fact
19:12that it's, like, multi-generational.
19:14And I sat in London last week,
19:16and, I mean, the second,
19:18it's such an epic finale
19:19to this two-film sort of extravaganza.
19:24And I was there with my family
19:25and all my school friends,
19:27one of whom you're about to meet.
19:28Very excited.
19:29Very excited about this.
19:30And my niece was there,
19:32and I was just watching her
19:33just sit there.
19:34She was just completely taking it in.
19:36And you just, I started crying,
19:37and I couldn't stop.
19:39Yeah.
19:40And it felt like, you know,
19:41after however many years,
19:43you know, actors are only in
19:44for, like, 15%
19:45of making these extraordinary films.
19:47So when you think about
19:47John M. Chiu and Mark Platt,
19:49who's stuck with this
19:50for, you know, over 15 years,
19:51but for me, it's been three years.
19:53And it just, and that London premiere
19:54felt like a real release.
19:57That's really amazing.
19:58And I'm just so proud
19:59that now everyone gets to go
20:00and experience that.
20:01That's really cool.
20:01Are you worried that it did
20:02take people out of it
20:03when they saw you crying?
20:05Well, especially because I,
20:06because I was running up and down,
20:08desperately looking for a hug.
20:10With my Barbie and my Lego.
20:11They were like,
20:14Oh, my God, he brought the Barbie.
20:16Yeah, in my mouth.
20:17I'm rabid.
20:18I just threw it around.
20:19But, okay, so you,
20:20look, you've worked on
20:21very big movies
20:22over the last few years.
20:23Yeah.
20:23You've had a lot going on.
20:24I feel like you deserve a break.
20:26You said this is the end of it.
20:27Do you have some time
20:28carved out for yourself?
20:29Yes.
20:30Okay.
20:31Have you got any ideas
20:31of where I should go?
20:32Because I haven't actually
20:33booked anything yet.
20:33How much time do you have?
20:35I reckon, well,
20:36I called my friend on the way here.
20:37I walked,
20:39when you're on a press tour,
20:40even, I walked here today.
20:41I was like,
20:41that, to me, was a holiday.
20:42Great, yeah.
20:44And I called my friend.
20:45I went,
20:45So, I think,
20:46I'm sort of wrapping up now.
20:47Do you fancy going on holiday
20:48today?
20:51And all my friends at home
20:52have nine to five jobs,
20:53so it's kind of hard.
20:54But I've got,
20:54I reckon, yeah,
20:55we can go away for a week.
20:56Do you like warm weather,
20:57cold weather?
20:58What do you like?
20:59I think, yeah,
21:00a bit of sun would be lovely.
21:01Okay, Pittsburgh.
21:02I think you want to go to Pittsburgh.
21:04I would do Pittsburgh.
21:05Two days in Pittsburgh,
21:06one day in Cleveland.
21:07You can drive it.
21:08Brilliant.
21:08Do you work for Thomas Cook?
21:11Yeah.
21:12I do, I do.
21:13But what are the lower level jobs?
21:15Oh, fine, yeah.
21:16We also have Bridgerton
21:17coming back.
21:18Yes, we do.
21:19I'm very excited.
21:20Yeah.
21:21I would,
21:21I, I,
21:22this is,
21:22this must have been,
21:23like,
21:23a very interesting few years
21:25of, like,
21:26you're constantly,
21:26I feel like,
21:27working on projects
21:27that people,
21:28again,
21:28we're talking about fans,
21:29there's a great amount
21:30of anticipation
21:31for your work.
21:33And I would imagine
21:34a lot of overlap
21:35in who likes it.
21:36Well,
21:36Bridgerton,
21:37quite rightly so,
21:38is,
21:39is,
21:39is sort of tantric
21:41in the way it makes you wait.
21:42It is tantric.
21:43But I,
21:44I was watching
21:45the first four episodes
21:46of the new series
21:47to,
21:47to sort of calm myself
21:49whilst we were traveling around.
21:51And it is so good.
21:52It's so funny you said that.
21:53It's like,
21:53what's the sexiest part
21:54about Bridgerton?
21:55How it makes me wait.
21:57How it makes me wait
21:58for new episodes.
22:00All right,
22:00so you mentioned
22:01you're going to have a friend
22:02come out.
22:02And we're going to go to commercial
22:03and they're going to bring him out.
22:04But he,
22:04he's a,
22:05he's a playwright.
22:06And he has a show
22:08that's going to be on Broadway.
22:09Two strangers carry a cake
22:10across New York.
22:11And,
22:11I'm telling you,
22:15if there is,
22:16I couldn't be prouder,
22:18and you'll understand
22:18in a minute,
22:19but it's,
22:19it's the most astonishingly
22:21brilliant show.
22:22And it's,
22:22it's a ticket
22:23that everyone should buy
22:24over this,
22:25this next season.
22:26But he,
22:26we grew up together.
22:27We spent our teenage years
22:28together.
22:29And he,
22:30he took me to see Wicked
22:32for the first time.
22:33And his brother
22:33illegally downloaded
22:35the original cards.
22:37Anyway,
22:38so it's just the most
22:39unbelievable thing
22:41that on Monday
22:41we sat and watched
22:42Wicked together
22:43at the premiere.
22:44And on tomorrow,
22:44I have the great privilege
22:45of going to see
22:46his show open
22:47on Broadway.
22:48Well,
22:48we're very much
22:49looking forward
22:49to talking to Kit
22:51when we come back.
22:51We will be right back
22:52with Kit Buchan.
22:55The play's open tomorrow.
22:56And we'll be right back.
22:57We're back with Jonathan Bailey.
23:19And joining us
23:19is his best friend,
23:21writer and lyricist,
23:22Kit Buchan.
23:22And welcome, Kit.
23:24Two Strangers Carry a Cake
23:26Across New York
23:27opens tomorrow.
23:28Before we talk about that,
23:29how old were you
23:30when you met each other?
23:32Like 14.
23:3314 years old.
23:34Yeah.
23:34I was a young 14.
23:35Did you see
23:36anything in each other
23:39that would have led you
23:40to believe that
23:41the moment you're at
23:42right now was possible?
23:43The desperate needs
23:43of escape to school.
23:44Yes.
23:45We were in a
23:46forbidding school environment.
23:48Okay, gotcha.
23:48More preoccupied with rugby
23:49than with arts.
23:51Yeah.
23:51Did you see
23:53sort of a sanctuary
23:53in each other immediately?
23:55Yeah, completely.
23:55Also, I was thinking today
23:56how much I just copied
23:58your history essays
23:59word for guidance.
24:00But word for word.
24:02I mean, with no intelligence.
24:03Kit is a ferocious talent.
24:05These are, um, uh,
24:06here's a look of, uh,
24:08of you guys in your youth.
24:10That was when we were 21.
24:11That was last week.
24:13These guys, I like,
24:14that's, uh, great.
24:16You guys have a really good,
24:17I'm surprised one of you...
24:18Also, I've just noticed something.
24:20Hang on a minute.
24:21Can you hold those two up?
24:23Yeah, yeah.
24:23Look at this.
24:24So we were already
24:26imitating one another's kind of...
24:27Yeah.
24:28Exactly.
24:28This is before...
24:29Each other's creative orbit.
24:30Um, uh, and, uh,
24:32and, uh, this is very exciting.
24:34Your play is opening tomorrow.
24:35Tomorrow.
24:36And, uh, how do you feel?
24:37What is your anticipation?
24:39I imagine you've had plays open before.
24:42How do you feel a day before it?
24:44Not like this.
24:44Not like this.
24:45No, no, no.
24:46This is a Broadway debut.
24:47Yeah.
24:47Oh, very much so.
24:48It's my everything debut.
24:49It's your everything debut.
24:50This is a show you have done in London,
24:51you've done it in Boston.
24:52Yeah.
24:53But, obviously, there's a whole different, uh, level.
24:56Yes.
24:56You've been in the city for two months.
24:58Yep.
24:59And New Yorkers have given you some helpful feedback
25:01in a very New York way.
25:02You can't get anything past a New Yorker.
25:04Gotcha.
25:04Yeah.
25:05So what are some of the things they've told you about your play
25:06that you are, uh, grateful to have heard?
25:08Well, we've been making the show for ten years,
25:11and there's been input from American audiences
25:12all the way through that time,
25:13but there's still details that can slip through the net.
25:15And when we're in Boston, for example,
25:16there's a radio announcement at the beginning of the show
25:18where a traffic reporter refers to the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway.
25:23Yeah.
25:23And we were sort of, on opening night,
25:25I was hastily told by the sound designer,
25:26oh, by the way, no one would ever say that.
25:28Yeah.
25:28I was like, oh, great.
25:29Could have told me earlier, but thanks all the same.
25:31And there was also a problem with, like, pricing stuff.
25:33There's a certain amount of, like,
25:35our two characters, for reasons I won't explain
25:37because I don't want to ruin it,
25:38end up with a source of income that is maybe not their own,
25:41and they have a very extravagant night on the tiles.
25:44And a lot of the input from New Yorkers was like,
25:47that cake isn't expensive enough,
25:48that tuxedo isn't expensive enough,
25:50that hotel isn't expensive enough.
25:52Exactly.
25:52It's the most British way.
25:53A source of income that is maybe not their own.
25:55Yes.
25:56Yeah.
25:56Yes.
25:57But you wrote it with your other really good
26:00long-term friend, Jim Byrne,
26:01and it's a musical.
26:02And for those who can buy a ticket,
26:04it's on anyone who loved, like, the 90s rom-coms,
26:07it's got such wit and brilliance and charm.
26:10And the soundtrack itself is brilliant,
26:12so listen to that.
26:12And, Johnny, how long ago did you see it, then?
26:15Well, I saw it, so it's how many iterations?
26:17It's been about five.
26:19It started in Northampton.
26:20Yeah, Northampton.
26:21And that's where my dad's from.
26:22Oh, I forgot that.
26:23Do you remember?
26:23Yes.
26:24Stuart Bailey.
26:25Good old shout-out, Stuart.
26:26And so we went, and again,
26:28this makes me sound like I cry all the time,
26:30but I did cry.
26:31Do you remember?
26:32And I sat next to you, and it was so emotional,
26:34because we used to make films in my garden.
26:36Yeah.
26:37And really intense films.
26:39Like, really intense.
26:41So we would have a shoot day on, like, a, I don't know,
26:44a Sunday, and then I'd sort of, we'd go into the edit.
26:47I'm just so happy to hear you can cry at work
26:50that you're not in.
26:51I think that's a really...
26:51What were that, when you were making short films as kids,
26:54because I feel like that is such an important first step
26:57to, like, creative, you know, construction.
26:59What sort of films were you guys making together?
27:01Yeah, it sounds endearing, doesn't it, in a way?
27:03I have a horrible feeling.
27:04The one that I can remember was a story
27:06about two middle-aged French men
27:08who had slept with each other's wives.
27:10And then, not to put you find a point on it,
27:12Johnny's character got really upset,
27:14and I hurt myself.
27:16It was like New Wave, but maybe just sort of
27:19wave goodbye.
27:21Oh, my God.
27:21The world isn't still quite ready.
27:23What teenage boys haven't made that film?
27:25Yeah, exactly.
27:26But you know what, weirdly, you know,
27:27when you think about, like, Wicked,
27:28and the themes of Wicked and friendship,
27:30and, like, despite the fact that it sounded so intense,
27:34it was, like, the most creative couple of years.
27:36And it's like, if we hadn't...
27:38I don't think we could even think about
27:40what we were going to eat for dinner,
27:41let alone think about the future.
27:42No.
27:43But, my goodness, if you could go back and say then,
27:46but we had the best...
27:47It was like we were really safe in each other's company.
27:49It was such a generative few years
27:51that I sort of credit that time,
27:53my friendship with you and with Jim,
27:55my co-writer, and my brother, Alistair.
27:56Yeah.
27:56Without those friendships, this show,
27:59which is sort of about friendship,
28:00would never have happened.
28:01And was that...
28:02With those early sort of films you guys were making,
28:04was that the last time you collaborated professionally?
28:06Have you guys done stuff together?
28:08We did.
28:08You played Puck, and I played Demetrius.
28:11Demetrius, yeah.
28:12There's photos of that,
28:13but I'm glad they haven't made it.
28:15So, what age was that?
28:16We went traveling together.
28:18I feel like our collaborations have been life,
28:20not creative.
28:21But I tell you what, when you see this show,
28:24you'll understand why I'd be honored
28:25if there was ever a moment to be invited along
28:27for a creative ride.
28:29Are you using this time here to try to get a part?
28:34You said this was about him being your friend.
28:39I'm very excited for you, Kit.
28:42I can't even imagine the anticipation.
28:44You know, break a leg to you and everybody tomorrow.
28:47And it's to say there's two extraordinary performances.
28:49And how many...
28:50Yeah, your two cast members,
28:52how long have they been involved in this production?
28:54They've been involved for a year,
28:55and they are so wonderful.
28:57And their relationship with one another
28:58is very beautiful as well.
28:59It's just so lovely to see them.
29:02And she's...
29:02I mean, without her,
29:03we could never have created
29:04such a convincing New Yorker.
29:06That's very, very exciting,
29:08and I can't wait.
29:09Congratulations to both of you.
29:10Thank you, Sam.
29:11Congratulations on the friendship.
29:13Jonathan Bailey, Kit Bucket,
29:14nobody wicked for Goodwin theaters
29:16and IMAX on November 21st.
29:17Two Strangers, Carrie Cates,
29:19across New York.
29:19I'll be for longer,
29:20to be on that way tomorrow.
29:21Does he bother?
29:22Let's take a round of way back tonight.
29:43Welcome back, everybody.
29:45Our next guest is an Oscar-winning actress,
29:47You know from shows like The Last Man on Earth
29:49as well as films like Elf, Step Brothers,
29:51Philadelphia, and Parenthood, she stars in A Man on the Inside.
29:55The second season is streaming November 20th on Netflix.
29:58Let's take a look.
29:59There will always be reasons not to do something.
30:02We spend a third of our lives at work.
30:04If you're not getting value out of your job, you should quit.
30:09The rest will work itself out.
30:12You know what? You're right.
30:15I told Joel years ago that I wanted to go back to school,
30:18and he was super supportive.
30:22I'm gonna quit my job.
30:23Do it. Do it now.
30:26Really? What else are we gonna do?
30:28The bread isn't even here yet.
30:30Please welcome back to the show,
30:32Mary Steenburgen, everybody!
30:45I'm gonna quit my job.
30:50I'm gonna quit my job.
30:51Hi! How are you?
30:53I'm good.
30:55I'm very excited to have you here.
30:57I'm very excited.
30:58You're working with your lovely husband, Ted Danson,
31:00on this show. I am.
31:01And you just celebrated your 30th wedding anniversary.
31:04Congratulations. You did.
31:06And...
31:08Look, I love Ted very deeply.
31:11I know you love Ted very deeply.
31:12I do.
31:13And yet, at the same time, I've heard that maybe
31:15he's doing something you don't love.
31:17You know what?
31:18I think it's important, because he does have this sort of aura
31:21of being somewhat perfect.
31:23Or at least he's pretty sure he does.
31:25Yeah.
31:25But, yeah, no, there's just one or two things.
31:30And one is that whenever he wants to kind of reflect enthusiasm,
31:37he'll say a word.
31:38And they change sometimes, but he really believes
31:41these words are hip.
31:43Oh, no.
31:44And so he'll say them.
31:46And then for six months, every time anyone says anything,
31:49he'll double down on it.
31:50So, like, the original one was snap.
31:54After everything I said, it would be snap.
31:58Then the next one was schmoly, which was holy moly,
32:02but got cleverly shortened to schmoly.
32:04Yep, yep.
32:05And then...
32:06Cleverly.
32:07Cleverly.
32:08And then the last one was schnikes.
32:13And it was like after any...
32:16And my kids came and said,
32:17Can you please ask Ted to stop?
32:20And now, the other day, I noticed there's a new one,
32:24but it's like a tender one.
32:25And it's like, you'll say, Oh, I made you, you know,
32:29I made the bad.
32:30And go, Bless.
32:34Do you just...
32:35Does it your heartbreak the first time he says bless?
32:37Because you know...
32:38You're like, Oh, this is going to be six months to live.
32:40Yes, I do know.
32:41Where is he getting these words?
32:42I don't know, but somehow he thinks they're super cool.
32:46And I'm like, Dude, people think you are cool.
32:50Like, you don't need to do this.
32:51Yeah.
32:52And then when you say that, is he like, Bless?
32:54Yeah, Bless.
32:55Bless for saying that.
32:57Well, I would like to walk back how much I love him,
32:58because this seems very irritating.
33:02I'm joking, of course.
33:03This is... You play a very...
33:04You're on a college campus this season.
33:05Right.
33:06You play a very eccentric music professor.
33:10And I guess people are telling you they see a lot of you
33:12in this character.
33:13Are you surprised by it?
33:14Well, yeah, because I read it and went,
33:18Oh, she's pretty crazy, you know?
33:20And then every Mike Schur and everybody keeps going,
33:24Yeah, we based it right on you.
33:26So there's stuff directly taken from your life
33:30that Ted has told us, and it's all you.
33:33That's really funny.
33:34Yeah, her name is Mona.
33:35And she had a one-hit wonder when she was young.
33:39She was a big star.
33:40She opened for Fleetwood Mac at the Royal Albert Hall.
33:43She was, you know, she was really something.
33:46And then the band fell apart.
33:48And she went back to school and studied music.
33:51And now she's been a music professor forever.
33:54And she was a really fun character to play.
33:57And, yes, she might be a little like me.
34:00It was nice they at least didn't name her Mary.
34:02Exactly.
34:04You were in school in Arkansas.
34:07Yep.
34:08And you had professors that sort of saw talent in you
34:10and suggested you come up here to New York City.
34:12Is that right?
34:13Yeah, I went to one year of college, to an incredible college,
34:17actually very similar to the one that's celebrated in our show,
34:22that's Wheeler College.
34:24And my school was Hendrix College,
34:28and it's a beautiful liberal arts college.
34:30But I left it to come up here and study with Sandy Meisner
34:34at the neighborhood Playhouse.
34:36And when you come up here, I imagine you're one of those people
34:39who probably doesn't have a great amount of money.
34:41So what were your early living quarters like
34:44when you first came to New York City?
34:45Well, my first, very first place was called
34:48the East End Hotel for Women.
34:51And you got a...
34:51That sounds like a trap.
34:53It was...
34:56It was divine.
34:58You got a room and two meals a day for $40 to $50 a week.
35:03Wow.
35:04Yeah, bless on that one.
35:09Yeah, it was...
35:11And then two friends that also were there,
35:14the three of us moved into a one-bedroom apartment,
35:17which felt enormous compared to the cell I'd been in.
35:20And I tried to work at Double Day Bookstore on 53rd and 5th.
35:26I passed it on the way here, by the way.
35:28And then it just...
35:32I was spending all my money on books
35:34because you got a discount on books.
35:36And so, and then...
35:38That's how they hook you.
35:39Yeah.
35:40And then I learned I could make much more money waitressing.
35:45So for many years, I did that.
35:46Did you take to waitressing naturally?
35:48Were you good at it?
35:49You know, I lied to get my first job.
35:52My friend, Momo Yashima, told the lady who ran this place,
35:57Bubbles, which was a bar, little bar restaurant
36:02on 65th and 1st called Noah's Ark.
36:05And she said, she's so experienced, you know?
36:08I'd never waitressed in my life.
36:09Right.
36:10And so I had on stupid shoes.
36:12Not quite this stupid, but I mean, these are pretty,
36:15but you know what I mean.
36:16Yeah, yeah.
36:18And blisters the first night, and Bubbles goes,
36:22okay, you got the job, but don't ever lie to me again.
36:25Yeah.
36:26So...
36:27Yeah, I would say a lot of New York City Bubbles
36:29can have pretty good B.S. detectors.
36:32Put the fear of God in you.
36:34A couple years ago, it was a very exciting rite of passage for us.
36:37We showed Elf to our kids for the first time.
36:40We did.
36:41And it's such a wonderful, you know, holiday tradition
36:43to show that movie.
36:44Is that a movie that you and your family ever rewatch?
36:47Yes, we will be watching it at Christmas.
36:50And then the kids will all say,
36:53can we make spaghetti and put maple syrup on it and see?
36:55Yeah.
36:56And I'm like, you know, I ate that all day long,
36:58and I do not recommend it.
37:01You, uh, that was the first time you worked with Will Ferrell,
37:04playing his stepmother.
37:05But then you did again in Step Brothers,
37:08which is a rite of passage that's still a few years away.
37:11It is.
37:13I mean, I, like, there's certain scenes where, you know,
37:17with my boys where I'm like, I just cannot wait.
37:19Well, please wait, Dad.
37:21Yeah, I know I have to wait.
37:22It's not time yet.
37:23I know it's not time, but I'm like, oh, my God.
37:24The first time they watch that bunk bed scene,
37:26they're going to die, literally.
37:27They're literally going to die.
37:29Gives us so much more room for activities.
37:32Uh, but, uh...
37:34Did, uh...
37:38Is it true that Will reached out to ask you about Step Brothers
37:41after having worked with your mom?
37:43Yeah, we had so much fun on Elf, so he called and he said,
37:46you played my stepmom in Elf.
37:49Would you be insulted if I asked you to play my mom
37:52in Step Brothers?
37:53I said, well, what year were you born?
37:56And we did a little math.
37:58And I said, well, I would have had you when I was 11.
38:01Yeah.
38:02But, um, I said, I'd be insulted if you ask anybody else.
38:06So we had the best time.
38:08And I think if you watch that film,
38:10he looks like someone who was raised by an 11-year-old.
38:12Like, I think a lot of...
38:13When you realize, like, where he ended up, there is.
38:15Yeah, it's true.
38:16This is not the first time you have worked with your husband, Ted.
38:20This is, um... Is this Pontiac Moon?
38:23Yes.
38:23And were you married yet when you did this one?
38:25In life, no.
38:27Okay.
38:28But in the movie, yes.
38:29Yes.
38:30And then Gulliver's Travel.
38:32Then we were literally sending out wedding invitations.
38:37We're not yet married.
38:38Okay, gotcha. And then this is Inc.?
38:40Yes.
38:41And you were married, but divorced on the show.
38:43Played divorced.
38:44Great.
38:45Yeah.
38:46And then on Curb, you're playing yourselves,
38:48but also divorced.
38:49Starting out married, and then Larry thoughtfully
38:52had us get divorced on the show.
38:53Right.
38:54And we did have calls from people that should have known better,
38:57saying, please say it ain't so.
39:00I would like...
39:01By the way, some of whom you know.
39:03I'll tell you later.
39:04Oh, I... By the way, I know exactly.
39:06I've got some guesses.
39:08There's nothing funnier to me than people being like,
39:10hey, I know we have a lot of friends.
39:11How should we tell them we're splitting up?
39:13And it's like, I think we should do it on Curb.
39:14Yeah, on Curb.
39:16Sounds good.
39:17I think let's put it in Larry's gentle hands.
39:18Yes.
39:20Congratulations on the show.
39:22It's always so lovely to see you.
39:23Thank you for being here, Mary.
39:24Thank you. You too, Seth.
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