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Exclusive footage shows Dr. Umar, responsible for red fort car blast, attempting to justify the attack by reframing suicide bombing as a noble “martyrdom operation.” The bulletin details the ongoing probe into the Jaish-e-Mohammed–linked d6 terror module, the radicalization efforts led by figures like Maulvi Irfan, and the search for its financing network. In the video, Omar is heard saying, “One of the very misunderstood concepts is what has been labelled as suicide bombing. It is a martyrdom operation,” while the report also notes that another recruit, Jaseer, withdrew from the plot after concluding that such acts go against Islam.
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00:00And we'll start this edition with this exclusive story that we are breaking at this hour.
00:06I'm Sneha Murdani. Let's tell you more about what the bomber Omar was trying to do.
00:13Reverse psychology and brainwash tactics on the part of Dr. Omar, the bomber who blew up the I-20 white car,
00:21leading to 13 deaths in Delhi City on the 10th day of November.
00:26Massive clues in Omar's video. India Today broke this story fast.
00:31Omar's seen trying to convince other suicide bombers. Let's take a listen.
00:38It's been labeled as suicide bombing. It is a martyrdom operation.
00:44And it is being known in Islam.
00:52There are multiple contraindications.
00:59There are multiple arguments that have been brought against it.
01:02Martidom operation is when a person presumes that he is going for sure die at a particular place,
01:18at a particular time, he goes against the presumption that a particular person is going to die in a particular situation.
01:34It's not, we don't have, we don't have.
01:39So, one of the very misunderstood concepts is concept of what has been labeled as suicide bombing.
01:47It is martyrdom operation.
01:51Martidom operation is when a person presumes that he is going for sure to die in a particular situation.
01:56Martidom operation is when a person presumes that he is going for sure to die in a particular situation.
01:58Martidom operation is when a person presumes that he is going for sure to die at a particular place,
02:24one of the very misunderstood concepts is concept of what has been labeled as suicide bombing.
02:33It is martyrdom operation is.
02:39And it is being known in Islam.
02:45One of the very misunderstood concepts is concept of what has been labeled as suicide bombing.
02:52It is martyrdom operation is, it is martyrdom operation is, and it is being known in Islam.
03:03There are multiple contraindications, there are multiple arguments that have been brought against it.
03:14Martidom operation is, when a person presumes,
03:22that he is going for sure to die at a particular place, at a particular time,
03:34he goes against the presumption that a particular,
03:41he is going to die in a particular situation.
03:44Tell our viewers, this is the voice and this is the video of a coward who has killed himself in that sense.
03:53And he is trying to brainwash others.
03:55And this video is just to show the level of brainwashing that he was trying to do,
04:01the tactics that he was trying to use.
04:03I am going to go straight across, in fact, to Gaurav,
04:05my colleague Shreya, also with the details on this big story.
04:08But to you, Gaurav first, his video speaking volumes of the matter in which he was trying to aid, justify and give this tag of martyrdom,
04:18so to speak, to suicide bombing, to suicide killing in that sense.
04:21It's a very twisted mindset of a radical Islamist terrorist, highly educated medical doctor,
04:31a healer who is trusted to heal, but is plotting to kill.
04:37And not just a few, but a large number of people.
04:40As more details of this deadly D6 terror module becomes apparent,
04:46it shows you, and this is the first video that India Today's Shreya Chatterjee has been able to get,
04:52which gives us an insight into the mindset of this radical Islamist terrorist,
04:56who's not only trying to give a religious connotation, a religious cover to his deadly terror attack.
05:03So Dr. Muhammad Umar calls himself a martyr or someone who's dying in the cause of a religion.
05:09Point one, point two, when you see a lot of these radical Islamist terrorists,
05:14whether it is Dr. Muhammad Umar, a suicide bomber who used a VBIED or a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device
05:20to kill innocent Indians, even in the past, suicide bombers have recorded videos.
05:27They've also, in the past, talked about the battle of Badr
05:30and their concept of an attack which coincides with Badr or words to that effect.
05:36And to a very large extent, they seek to justify their actions through the religion.
05:43It is a fair fact that terror has no religion, but these terrorists,
05:47these radical Islamist terrorists give that connotation of trying to justify their acts
05:53through an act of terror justified through religion.
05:57That's exactly what Muhammad Umar is also trying to do.
06:01A very well-planned operation.
06:03The big question remains, where was he radicalized?
06:06If it is the Naugam Masjid and Malvi Irfan was the person,
06:10who else did Malvi Irfan radicalize?
06:13Where were funds coming from?
06:15Because to choke radical Islamist terror,
06:17you also need to choke access to funds that these people may have
06:20and that radical thought that they are getting.
06:23Now, who are the Malvis who are radicalizing them?
06:25Is money coming from overseas?
06:27Is money coming from Havala channels?
06:29There are many aspects that are currently under investigation.
06:31But those who are saying that innocent Muslim doctors are being targeted,
06:35well, this is just one glimpse of what that twisted mindset actually was.
06:40Right, got to be with us.
06:41I'm going to also bring in Shreya.
06:44But before I bring in Shreya to talk a little more about the other person,
06:48Jaseer, in fact, also who had backed out saying that suicide bombing is against Islam.
06:55I want to know more about that as well.
06:57But listening to what Omar had said, the video that is now surfaced, it's unseen.
07:02It's now been put out that before, just in fact days before the blast,
07:07this is what he was trying to convey.
07:08One of the very misunderstood concepts is concept of what has been labelled as suicide bombing.
07:18It is martyrdom operationists.
07:21When a person presumes that he is going for sure,
07:50or die at a particular place, at a particular time,
07:59he goes against the presumption that a particular,
08:06he is going to die in a particular situation.
08:10It's not, we don't have, we don't have situation.
08:20One of the very misunderstood concepts is concept of what has been labelled as suicide bombing.
08:28It is martyrdom operationists.
08:34And it is being known in Islam.
08:40There are multiple contraindications.
08:47There are multiple arguments that have been brought against it.
08:50Montydom operationists.
08:52When a person presumes that he is going for sure die at a particular place,
09:05at a particular time,
09:08he goes against the presumption that a particular,
09:17is going to die in a particular situation.
09:20It is not, we don't have, we don't have a situation.
09:33Shreya also continues to be with us.
09:35Shreya, talk to us about the Jaseer that is now being mentioned earlier.
09:38A. Jaseer Wani, I understand,
09:40backed out as a bomber claiming that suicide bombing is against Islam.
09:45Tell us a little more about that as well.
09:49Shreya, you know, this particular person,
09:50we're talking about Danish,
09:53who was also picked up by the NIA yesterday,
09:56will be produced in court today.
09:57What investigators say,
09:58that while he was in the process of radicalization,
10:01when he got in touch with Umar,
10:02was one of his closest aides,
10:04he did back out from the idea of suicide bombing.
10:06The reason so,
10:07that a lot of hard-end radical orthodox Islamist terrorists
10:11also believe that consumption of one's body by fire
10:14is against the basic tenets of Islam.
10:16So that becomes a basic understanding into the window
10:19of this video that we've accessed of Umarun Nabi.
10:22What we do understand,
10:23that this is a classic tactic of reverse psychology,
10:26often used by terrorists in radicalizing individuals.
10:30Not the first time that investigators who have tracked terrorism
10:33have found something similar in Al-Qaeda classrooms,
10:36debating the idea of suicide bombing
10:39before people are actually radicalized in the same manner,
10:44have often been found,
10:45even in lone wolf self-grooming style.
10:48Initially, you know,
10:49these ideas are discussed as it is a misconception,
10:52and then it is something which is introduced
10:54as a possible sacrifice.
10:55So what we see, probably Sneha,
10:57what investigators also believe,
10:59is a part of a series of videos
11:01that Umar possibly used to radicalize individuals,
11:04because as investigation cracks down,
11:06and as the trail of Umar's connection
11:09with other individuals,
11:11those young minds that he was recruiting
11:12are also getting established.
11:14More and more videos most likely will surface, Sneha.
11:16What we are seeing is probably a part of a series
11:19of radicalization videos
11:20that were being used by Umar to recruit individuals
11:23and turn them into suicide bombers.
11:25He's first using the tactic of reverse psychology,
11:28introducing the idea of suicide bombing,
11:30questioning the kind of contradictions
11:34it has in the society,
11:36and possibly then he goes on to justify as sacrifice.
11:40As the investigation continues in this matter,
11:43we will get more and more clarity on this,
11:45but this is a classic case
11:46of reverse psychology radicalization
11:48that is being used by Umar Unnabhi
11:50to brainwash individuals,
11:52to brainwash young minds,
11:53to become suicide bombers,
11:54because that was the initial plan
11:56of the terror module,
11:57to carry out multiple serial blasts
11:59to actually create mayhem in the country.
12:02Suicide blasts as well,
12:03these would have been suicide killings, Shreya?
12:07Absolutely, these would have been suicide killings,
12:09because the idea was actually
12:10to make vehicle-borne IEDs,
12:12and multiple vehicle-borne IEDs,
12:14because the kind of ammonium nitrate
12:16and the stockpile of explosives
12:17that have been unearthed,
12:18it suggests that this would have been
12:19multiple more attacks carried out across cities.
12:22It's still not confined on which all cities
12:26it was planned,
12:27but this is the plan
12:27that there were multiple serial blasts
12:30targeting multiple institutions,
12:32institutions of state,
12:33institutions of economy,
12:34and create mayhem,
12:35because it was the D6 operational plan,
12:37a double-coded blueprint
12:39that we already uncovered yesterday.
12:42And today this video
12:43is somewhere down the line
12:44giving the glimpse to the entire nation
12:46on how radicalization functions.
12:49It's not simply introduced
12:50to the concept of suicide bombing.
12:52You first debate with individuals,
12:54get them under your fold,
12:56and then you produce them,
12:57this idea,
12:58as an idea of sacrifice.
12:59It's a reverse psychology radicalization,
13:02a technique very often used
13:04by terrorists across nations.
13:06It's been found in ISIS online grooming sessions.
13:08It's been found in Al-Qaeda chat rooms,
13:11in lone wolf self-grooming tactics.
13:13So clearly,
13:14the handlers usually first call
13:15suicide attacks as misguided,
13:17and then they slowly reframe
13:19these as sacrifices.
13:20So that is possibly a window,
13:22probably one of the first windows
13:23that we are getting into this attack
13:25on how Umaru Nabi,
13:27who is called one of the most radicalized members
13:29of the terror module,
13:30function to actually
13:31brainwash recruits
13:33under his fold.
13:35This is, you know,
13:37just so scary
13:39at the end of the day,
13:40because this is the manner
13:41in which Gaurav,
13:42he's brainwashing,
13:44you know,
13:45perhaps younger population,
13:47targeting, you know,
13:49younger people to go ahead
13:51and do this
13:51without any fear.
13:54And this is just so shocking,
13:55the manner in which
13:56this tactic is being used
13:57to encourage,
13:58you know,
13:59suicide bombing.
14:00The video, of course,
14:01appears just days
14:02before the Delhi blast,
14:04before the 10th of November.
14:05This was short, rather,
14:06before the 10th of November.
14:08So, who are the elements
14:11that are being picked up?
14:12They are doctors,
14:13highly educated.
14:15They know,
14:16they can sift fact from fiction,
14:18good from bad,
14:19and yet they are the ones
14:20who are indoctrinated.
14:21Now, that Naugam Masjid
14:23is in the eye of a storm
14:24because it's the Malvi
14:25of the Naugam Masjid
14:26called Malvi Irfan,
14:27who was seen as the person
14:28who was indoctrinating
14:29some of these young doctors
14:31from GMC Srinagar,
14:33also because that Malvi
14:34had worked as a paramedic.
14:35However, you would expect doctors
14:37to know fact from fiction.
14:39They should be able to diagnose,
14:41you know, what is wrong,
14:42and yet they chose to be
14:43a part of the disease
14:44and not the cure.
14:46Now, that is the troublesome aspect
14:48of this indoctrination.
14:50Younger minds,
14:51influential minds,
14:52even though highly educated doctors,
14:55they wouldn't be
14:55on the radar immediately.
14:57Now, you know,
14:58by showing their lab coat,
15:00their stethoscope,
15:00and their identity cards,
15:01they have so much trust
15:03and faith in any part
15:04of the society
15:04that they would be
15:06permitted to go.
15:07Lady doctors,
15:08like Dr. Shaheen Shahid,
15:09an MBBS stopper,
15:11and yet someone
15:12who was indoctrinated enough
15:13to become the head
15:14of the Jaishem Mohammed
15:15women's wing
15:16to radicalize further
15:17younger people.
15:19So, younger people
15:20have been used
15:21as suicide bombers
15:22even in the past,
15:23and there's a long history,
15:24including that first
15:25suicide bombing
15:25that had taken place,
15:26the attack that had taken place
15:27on the Badami Bhakt
15:28entornment main entrance
15:30immediately after
15:31the Kargil War of 1999,
15:32and then a series,
15:34in fact,
15:34even the Pulwama bomber,
15:36all these boys
15:37are very young,
15:38between 19 and 25,
15:39bomb makers,
15:40bombers,
15:41radicalized,
15:42and then they don't think
15:43twice before,
15:44you know,
15:44killing themselves.
15:45The second case,
15:46the Jasir fellow
15:46that you were talking about,
15:48Jasir alias Danish,
15:49now Danish may have said,
15:50yes,
15:50he will not be a suicide bomber,
15:52however,
15:53Jasir was very happy
15:54to rig drones
15:55to drop improvised
15:56explosive device,
15:57so he wants to save
15:58his own life,
15:59but he wants to kill
16:00innocent people,
16:01and this is a Hamas-style
16:03air and land attack
16:04that these terrorists
16:05had plotted
16:05because Jasir used
16:07to operate drones,
16:08the quadcopters
16:09in marriages,
16:11and of course,
16:12also take pictures
16:13from a mobile camera
16:14and a drone camera,
16:16so he was rigging
16:18those quadcopters
16:20to drop improvised
16:21explosive devices
16:22on the 6th of December,
16:23so this D6 plot
16:24is a multi-city,
16:27multi-pronged offensive
16:28by these elements
16:30and others,
16:31Neha,
16:32who are still out there
16:33at large,
16:33and that is the clear
16:35and present danger
16:35that our society faces today.
16:37It's a very,
16:38very unsettling video,
16:39Gaurav,
16:39I'm just going to come back
16:40to you in a moment
16:40from now.
16:41Listen in once again
16:42to this video,
16:44this chilling conversation
16:45that he is having,
16:46basically using
16:47reverse psychology
16:49to say that it is okay
16:50to carry out
16:51suicide bombing,
16:52that's what he is advocating.
16:53Listen in.
16:54One of the very
16:57misunderstood concepts
16:59is concept of
17:00what has been labeled
17:02as suicide bombing.
17:04It is
17:04martyrdom operationists
17:07and it is being known
17:11in,
17:13it's not,
17:15there are
17:15multiple
17:17contraindications,
17:22there are multiple
17:23arguments that have been
17:24brought against it.
17:26Multidome operationists.
17:29When a person
17:30presumes
17:32that he is going
17:35for sure
17:36die
17:38at a particular
17:39place,
17:41at a particular
17:42time,
17:45he goes
17:46against
17:47the presumption
17:50that a particular
17:51is going
17:53to die
17:53in a particular
17:54situation,
17:57it's not,
17:58we don't have,
18:00we don't have
18:01situation.
18:08I'm also going
18:09to go across
18:09to Amit Bhardwaj,
18:10he is at the
18:11Alphala University,
18:12which is in fact
18:13in the eye
18:13of the storm.
18:15It's a university
18:15from where all
18:16of these doctors
18:17have been picked up
18:18by the Delhi
18:19police were
18:20in fact
18:20involved with
18:22of course
18:23Alphala
18:23under the
18:24scanner now,
18:25but most
18:26chilling,
18:27unsettling
18:28video
18:28that has
18:29now surfaced.
18:31Amit just
18:31peeks volumes
18:32of how
18:33deep the rot
18:34really ran
18:35in that sense,
18:36isn't it?
18:36Trying to
18:37indoctrinate
18:38and radicalize
18:39just so many
18:40people,
18:40just so many
18:41youngsters
18:41using reverse
18:43psychology to say
18:44that it is okay
18:45and that suicide
18:46bombing is
18:47akin to
18:48or you would
18:50be in fact
18:50achieving martyrdom
18:51by carrying out
18:52a suicide
18:52bombing.
18:57Right,
18:58Sneha.
18:58We can
18:59understand
18:59through the
19:00video that
19:01has now
19:01surfaced
19:02and accessed
19:02by India
19:03today
19:03that what
19:05kind of
19:05mentality
19:06or radicalization
19:08that this
19:09Dr.
19:09Umar
19:10had gone
19:10through.
19:11In that
19:12particular
19:12video itself
19:13which we
19:13are showing
19:14to our viewers
19:14at this
19:15point in
19:15time,
19:16it could
19:16be heard
19:17saying
19:17as to
19:18how
19:19suicide
19:19bombing
19:20is equal
19:21to martyrdom
19:22and how
19:22wrong
19:23perceptions
19:24have been
19:24created
19:25in connection
19:26or in
19:26context
19:27with suicide
19:27bombing.
19:28So Dr.
19:29Umar
19:29was very
19:30much part
19:30of
19:31Al-Fala
19:31University
19:32here in
19:33Faridabad.
19:34What we
19:34can certainly
19:35tell our
19:35viewers
19:35at this
19:35point in
19:36time
19:36is that
19:37Haryana
19:38police
19:38personnel
19:39have left
19:40the campus
19:40a couple
19:41of minutes
19:41back.
19:42You could
19:42also see
19:43the crime
19:43branch
19:44of
19:44Haryana
19:44police,
19:45the personnel
19:46from the
19:46crime
19:46branch
19:47being deployed
19:47on the
19:48ground
19:48at this
19:49point in
19:50time.
19:50They are
19:50also
19:51randomly
19:52checking
19:52the vehicles
19:53that are
19:53leaving
19:53the
19:54campus.
19:55So on
19:55one side
19:55you have
19:56the ED
19:56enforcement
19:57directorate
19:57action
19:58unfolding
19:59in
19:59connection
20:00with
20:00Al-Fala
20:00University.
20:02The crime
20:02branch
20:02personnel
20:03keeping
20:03a close
20:04eye on
20:05the vehicular
20:06movement
20:06in the
20:07university.
20:08But on
20:08the other
20:08side
20:09you also
20:10have
20:10very
20:11unsettling
20:11video
20:12coming to
20:13the
20:13forward
20:13that we
20:14are
20:14showing
20:14to our
20:15viewers
20:15on
20:15India
20:16today
20:16at this
20:17point
20:17in
20:17time.
20:18Dr.
20:18Umar
20:19the suicide
20:20bomber
20:20in the
20:20case
20:21of
20:21Fred
20:21Ford
20:22Plus
20:22justifying
20:24suicide
20:24bombing
20:25and
20:25and
20:25trying
20:26to put
20:26it
20:26as
20:27martyrdom
20:29act
20:30rather
20:30than
20:31terror
20:31act.
20:32So that's
20:32the kind
20:33of
20:33radicalization
20:34that he
20:34had gone
20:34through
20:35and possibly
20:35also creating
20:36content
20:37to influence
20:38several others
20:40which we
20:41would know
20:41only in the
20:42days to
20:42come as
20:43the
20:43investigation
20:43goes
20:44forward
20:44and
20:44further.
20:45Absolutely
20:45chilling
20:47and also
20:48the fact
20:48that
20:49this is a
20:51doctor at
20:51the end
20:52of the
20:52day
20:52you know
20:52and
20:53the
20:53others
20:53involved
20:54in it
20:54are also
20:55doctors
20:55including
20:56a woman
20:56doctor
20:57is what
20:58we're trying
20:58to really
20:59wrap our
20:59heads around
21:00on how
21:01people
21:01who were
21:02educated
21:02and no
21:03less than
21:04doctors
21:04and studied
21:05MBBS
21:05have been
21:07in a position
21:08to get
21:08just so
21:09radicalized
21:10and so
21:11influenced
21:11in that
21:12sense
21:12to do
21:12something
21:13as
21:14drastic
21:14and as
21:15heinous
21:15as
21:15carry out
21:16a terror
21:17attack
21:17killing
21:18just so
21:19many
21:19people
21:19these
21:19aren't
21:20underprivileged
21:21or
21:21uneducated
21:22youngsters
21:24who've
21:24had no
21:24opportunities
21:25and have
21:26in that
21:26sense
21:27been
21:27in a
21:27better
21:28position
21:28to get
21:28radicalized
21:29and influenced
21:30these were
21:31educated
21:32doctors
21:33who have
21:34now gone
21:34on to
21:35carry out
21:35this
21:36attack
21:36listening
21:37to
21:37Omar
21:37once
21:38again
21:38one of the
21:48very
21:49misunderstood
21:50concept
21:51is
21:51concert
21:51of
21:52what has
21:53been
21:53labeled as
21:53suicide
21:54bombing
21:54it
21:55it is
21:56martyrdom
21:58operation
21:59and it
22:01is being
22:01known
22:02in
22:04it's not
22:05there are
22:07multiple
22:09contraindications
22:13and there are
22:14multiple arguments
22:15that have been
22:15brought against it
22:16martyrdom
22:18operation
22:19when a person
22:21presumes
22:24that he is
22:26going for sure
22:28die
22:30at a particular
22:31place
22:32at a particular
22:33time
22:34he goes
22:37against
22:38the
22:41presumption
22:41that a
22:42particular
22:42is going to
22:45die in a
22:45particular
22:46situation
22:46it's not
22:49we don't
22:50have
22:51we don't
22:52have
22:53situation
22:57I'm going
22:58to go back
22:59to Shreya
22:59for more
23:00on that
23:01story
23:01Shreya
23:01you know
23:02what's shocking
23:02and we can't
23:03reiterate that
23:04enough that
23:05this isn't
23:05an act
23:06really
23:06you know
23:06of people
23:07who were
23:08uneducated
23:09did not
23:09have any
23:10opportunities
23:10in life
23:11and hence
23:12you know
23:13got influenced
23:13got radicalized
23:14I mean
23:15they were
23:15doctors
23:16educated
23:18you know
23:18in a position
23:19of privileged
23:19qualified
23:20doctors
23:21and this
23:22is what
23:23they go
23:23ahead and
23:24do
23:24really
23:24isn't
23:25it
23:25you know
23:27Sneha
23:28if you've
23:29tracked
23:29down
23:30terror modules
23:31especially
23:31the ones
23:32who have
23:32operated
23:33on the
23:34similar
23:35lines
23:36of
23:36be it
23:37the likes
23:37of
23:37al-qaeda
23:38be it
23:38the likes
23:38of
23:39ISIS
23:39we do
23:40understand
23:40that when
23:41an individual
23:41gets radicalized
23:42he also
23:43uses the same
23:43tactic
23:44that was
23:45used to
23:45radicalize
23:45him
23:46this probably
23:47is one of
23:48the more
23:49clean window
23:50that we are
23:50getting into
23:51the mind
23:51of Umarun
23:51Nabi
23:52Umarun
23:52Nabi
23:52a doctor
23:53obviously
23:54not someone
23:55uneducated
23:55as you rightly
23:56pointed out
23:56he was first
23:57radicalized
23:58and then
23:58he becomes
23:59a machine
24:00to radicalize
24:00more and
24:01more
24:01individuals
24:01he was
24:03a doctor
24:04and probably
24:04that's one
24:04of the primary
24:05reasons he was
24:06also a target
24:06because investigators
24:08suggested that
24:09his alibi
24:10was one of the
24:11perfect alibis
24:12and that's why
24:12the entire
24:13white collar
24:14terror module
24:14to procure
24:15the kind
24:15of chemicals
24:17that were
24:17required
24:18into making
24:19a vehicle
24:19born IED
24:20now Umar
24:21is probably
24:22one of the
24:23most radicalized
24:24members
24:24we've already
24:24broken the story
24:25the day of
24:26the blast
24:27itself
24:27and now
24:28this video
24:28only reestablishes
24:29that
24:30that in
24:30which demeanor
24:31he was using
24:33digital content
24:34to actually
24:35radicalize
24:35individuals
24:36we do know
24:36that he had
24:37multiple other
24:38young members
24:39under him
24:40under his
24:41fold
24:41who he was
24:42radicalizing
24:42through telegram
24:43through session
24:44chat
24:44and he used
24:46or exploited
24:46social media
24:47and this is
24:48one of the
24:48cleanest window
24:49we get
24:49in this form
24:50of a video
24:50where he's
24:51using reverse
24:52psychology
24:52to actually
24:53radicalize
24:53individuals
24:54he's first
24:55talking about
24:55how the
24:56idea of
24:57suicide
24:58bombing
24:58is contradicted
24:59in many
25:00countries
25:00however
25:01he goes
25:02on to
25:02suggest
25:03that it's
25:03a misconception
25:04that one
25:04would die
25:05at a certain
25:05place
25:06at a certain
25:06time
25:06so he's
25:07confusing
25:07individuals
25:08in the
25:08video
25:09if you
25:09read the
25:10speech
25:10that he's
25:10using
25:11he's not
25:11speaking
25:12in clean
25:12line
25:13this is a
25:13clear tactic
25:14used by
25:15terrorists
25:16to radicalize
25:17individuals
25:17he knows
25:18that for
25:19radical
25:20Islamist
25:20individuals
25:21the idea
25:22of a body
25:23being consumed
25:23by fire
25:24is against
25:24the tenets
25:25of Islam
25:25that's one
25:26of the
25:26reasons we
25:27know that
25:27the other
25:28accused
25:28Danish
25:28had allegedly
25:30backed out
25:30last moment
25:31after agreeing
25:32to become a
25:33suicide bomber
25:33so he knows
25:34that there's a
25:35possibility a lot
25:35of people will
25:36not be
25:36comfortable with
25:37the idea of
25:38suicide bombing
25:39so he's using
25:40these kind of
25:40videos
25:41he's using
25:41reverse psychology
25:42to introduce
25:43the concept of
25:44suicide bombing
25:45the fact that
25:45it is
25:46contradicted
25:46then he goes
25:47to justify it
25:48as a sacrifice
25:49in all probability
25:50investigators suggest
25:51there are more
25:52videos that he
25:53has shared
25:54with these
25:54individuals as
25:55an online
25:56radicalization
25:57method this
25:58was a part of
25:58a larger plan
25:59and we also
25:59do know
26:00Sneha that
26:00this entire
26:01modules plan
26:02was busted
26:02at phase two
26:04of the operation
26:04before they could
26:05concept and
26:07finalize the
26:08entire plan
26:08because it was
26:09planned around
26:10December 6th
26:11and obviously
26:11if that did
26:12not work
26:13there was an
26:13individual plan
26:14that they
26:14executed in
26:15Delhi 6th that
26:16we already
26:16decoded yesterday
26:17that's right
26:18Shreya B
26:19with Aslan
26:19Fat I'm
26:20going to
26:20come back
26:20to you
26:20for more
26:21on the
26:21investigations
26:22as well
26:22and to
26:23Amit Bhardwaj
26:23too
26:24listen in
26:24once again
26:25to this
26:25video
26:26one of
26:28the very
26:29misunderstood
26:30concept is
26:31concept of
26:32what has
26:33been labeled
26:33as suicide
26:34bombing
26:34it is
26:36martyrdom
26:39operationist
26:39and it
26:41is being
26:42known
26:42in
26:44Islam
26:45there are
26:47multiple
26:49contraindications
26:54there are
26:54multiple
26:55arguments
26:55that have
26:56been brought
26:56against it
26:57martyrdom
26:59operationist
26:59when a
27:01person
27:02presumes
27:04that he
27:06is going
27:07for sure
27:08die
27:10at a
27:11particular
27:11place
27:12at a
27:13particular
27:14time
27:14he goes
27:18against
27:19the
27:21presumption
27:22that a
27:22particular
27:23is going
27:25to die
27:25in a
27:26particular
27:26situation
27:27it's not
27:29we don't
27:31have
27:31we don't
27:33have
27:33situation
27:37one
27:39one of
27:39the
27:39very
27:40misunderstood
27:41concept is
27:42concept of
27:43what has
27:44been labeled
27:45as suicide
27:45bombing
27:46it is
27:47martyrdom
27:50operationist
27:50and it
27:52is being
27:53known
27:54in
27:55Islam
27:56there are
27:58multiple
28:01contraindications
28:05there are
28:06multiple
28:06arguments
28:06that have
28:07been brought
28:07against it
28:08martyrdom
28:10operationist
28:10when a
28:12person
28:13presumes
28:15that he
28:18is going
28:18for sure
28:19die
28:21at a
28:22particular
28:23place
28:23at a
28:25particular
28:25time
28:26he
28:29goes
28:29against
28:30the
28:32presumption
28:33that a
28:33particular
28:34is going
28:36to die
28:37in a
28:37particular
28:37situation
28:38is not
28:40we don't
28:42have
28:42we don't
28:44have
28:44situation
28:48the video
28:50just before
28:51the blast
28:52was carried
28:52out
28:52he was
28:53clear that
28:53he was
28:53doing it
28:54and was
28:55radicalizing
28:56others as
28:56well
28:57indicating that
28:58this is the
28:59way to achieve
29:00martyrdom
29:01in that
29:02and it's
29:02absolutely
29:03chilling
29:03that a
29:04young man
29:04who's been
29:05qualified
29:05to practice
29:07medicine
29:07is doing
29:08something
29:08as shocking
29:09and as
29:10heinous
29:10as this
29:11goes on
29:12to carry
29:12on the
29:12blast
29:12on the
29:1310th of
29:14November
29:14in the
29:15evening
29:15at Delhi's
29:16Redford area
29:17Amit also
29:18continues to
29:19be with us
29:19Amit also
29:20talked to us
29:20about the
29:21investigations
29:22in this
29:22entire matter
29:23of course
29:24this video
29:24continues to
29:25be or
29:26rather gives
29:27us so many
29:27more insights
29:28into really
29:29the mind
29:30of this
29:30terrorist
29:31isn't it
29:32all right
29:37for our
29:38views
29:38understanding
29:39you know
29:39you have
29:39one investigation
29:40that's being
29:41carried out
29:41by the
29:42NIA in
29:43context to
29:44the Redford
29:44blast but
29:45there are
29:46further
29:46aspects to
29:48it which
29:48has to be
29:49investigated by
29:50other agencies
29:51as well
29:51so on one
29:52hand you have
29:53the Delhi
29:53police going
29:54on to
29:55probe as to
29:56what happened
29:57at Redford
29:57who were
29:58the people
29:58involved
29:59what was
29:59the module
30:00as Shreya
30:01was also
30:01discussing
30:02about the
30:02white collar
30:03terror module
30:04that was in
30:05place to
30:05execute the
30:06Redford
30:07blast as
30:08well as
30:08something much
30:09sinister that
30:10was being
30:10planned by
30:11these terrorists
30:12for December
30:136th so the
30:15NIA is probing
30:16it the
30:16Jaman Kashmir
30:17police is
30:18obviously part of
30:19that investigation
30:20as well and
30:21you have Delhi
30:21police investigation
30:22further but on
30:23the other side
30:24as well why
30:25is the
30:27Alphala
30:27University in
30:29the epicenter
30:29of everything
30:30is also being
30:31looked into
30:32you know the
30:33misuse of
30:33funds whether
30:35there was some
30:35kind of
30:36financial irregularity
30:38also being
30:39conducted in the
30:40Alphala University
30:41trust that's also
30:42being probed but
30:43that is being
30:44done by the
30:45enforcement
30:45directorate and
30:47Alphala University
30:48continues to be
30:49under the radar
30:50and scanner of
30:51the investigative
30:52agencies at
30:53this point in
30:54time as we
30:54speak the crime
30:55branch of
30:56Haryana their
30:57personnel are
30:58deployed in the
30:59university they
30:59are randomly
31:00checking the
31:01vehicles that are
31:02leaving the
31:02campus we also
31:04know for a
31:04matter of fact
31:05that several
31:06locations which
31:07are related to
31:08the Alphala
31:09University's
31:10individuals trustee
31:12as well as the
31:13Alphala University
31:14trust all of
31:16that is also
31:17being searched
31:18at this
31:18point in time
31:19by the
31:19enforcement
31:19directorate in
31:21order to track
31:22down the
31:23allegations of
31:24financial irregularities
31:25with context to
31:27Alphala University
31:28so different
31:29dimensions are
31:30being probed by
31:31different agencies
31:32at this point in
31:33time with the
31:34focus being on
31:35the fact on the
31:36NIA probe and
31:38the bigger
31:38terror plot that
31:39was executed and
31:41also being in the
31:43pipeline by these
31:44accused in the
31:45case including the
31:48suicide bomber
31:48Dr.
31:49Umar back to
31:50you
31:50absolutely in
31:51fact we're
31:51listening to this
31:52video once again
31:53Amit B with us
31:54coming back to
31:54you and Shreya in
31:56just a moment
31:56listening
31:56one of the very
32:04misunderstood concept
32:05is concert of
32:07what has been
32:08labeled as
32:08suicide bombing
32:09it is
32:11martyrdom
32:13operationist
32:14and it is
32:16being known
32:17in
32:19Islam
32:20there are
32:22multiple
32:24contraindications
32:28and there are
32:29multiple arguments
32:30that have been
32:30brought against it
32:31martyrdom
32:33operationist
32:34when a person
32:36presumes
32:39that he is
32:41going for
32:42sure
32:43die
32:45at a particular
32:46place
32:47at a particular
32:48time
32:49he goes
32:52against
32:53at the
32:56presumption
32:56that a
32:57particular
32:57is going
32:59to die
33:00in a
33:00particular
33:00situation
33:01is not
33:04we don't
33:05have
33:06we don't
33:07have
33:08situation
33:12more news
33:19coming in
33:20this is
33:20the unseen
33:21masjid trip
33:21of the
33:22Delhi bomber
33:22there
33:23on camera
33:24the bomber
33:24Omar
33:25asked
33:25before the
33:26blast
33:26caught on
33:27CCTV
33:27is again
33:28Omar
33:28near
33:29fares
33:29a
33:30ilahi
33:30mosque
33:31mosque
33:31prayer
33:32before the
33:33car
33:34blast
33:34remember
33:35he had
33:36in fact
33:36prayed
33:37at the
33:37mosque
33:37for about
33:3810 minutes
33:38is what
33:38we know
33:39before the
33:40blast
33:40was carried
33:41out
33:41on
33:42Monday
33:43on the
33:4310th
33:44of
33:44November
33:45as you
33:46can see
33:46that's
33:47the
33:47I-20
33:47car
33:48that he
33:48was
33:48moving
33:49around
33:49in
33:50pictures
33:51are
33:51from
33:51Delhi's
33:52Asaf Ali
33:53road
33:53at this
33:53point in
33:54time
33:54he was
33:55Shreya
33:56as you
33:57I remember
33:58had reported
33:58also from
33:59the mosque
33:59where you
34:00had told us
34:01that he had
34:01roughly for
34:0210 minutes
34:03of a
34:03press
34:04inside the
34:05mosque
34:05and then
34:06moved out
34:07of it
34:07isn't it
34:07and these
34:08are
34:08visuals
34:09and
34:09CCDV
34:09cameras
34:10indicating
34:10the very
34:12moment
34:12where he
34:12was
34:13in fact
34:13at the
34:13mosque
34:14well
34:15absolutely
34:16this was
34:16in the
34:17intervening
34:17timeline
34:18of 2pm
34:18and 3pm
34:19on the
34:1910th
34:19of
34:19November
34:20when he
34:21actually
34:21after exiting
34:22from the
34:23Kirlot Place
34:24and cruises
34:26through the
34:27Aruna Asaf
34:28Ali Magh
34:29road
34:29and there
34:30he is
34:31actually
34:31stopping
34:31at the
34:32Faiz-e-Ilahi
34:33masjid
34:33where he
34:34stopped
34:34for 10
34:35to 15
34:35minutes
34:35it's been
34:36suggested
34:36that he
34:37offered
34:37namaz
34:37over there
34:38and then
34:38subsequently
34:39he drove
34:39from there
34:40and directly
34:40reaches the
34:41parking lot
34:41of the
34:42Red Fort
34:43at the
34:43Sunheri
34:43masjid
34:44where he
34:45stays for
34:453 hours
34:45so these
34:46are those
34:46visuals
34:47from the
34:47Aruna Asaf Ali
34:48road
34:48the second
34:49visual
34:50in place
34:51for the
34:52record
34:52because you
34:52know we
34:53had the
34:53first video
34:54of him
34:54walking
34:55past that
34:56mask
34:56after taking
34:56a U-turn
34:57so that
34:57was one
34:58of the
34:58first
34:58videos
34:59of him
35:00walking
35:01where he's
35:02not seen
35:02inside a car
35:03and this
35:04is another
35:04visual that's
35:05coming in
35:05from the
35:06Aruna Asaf Ali
35:06Magana the
35:07CCTV which
35:08actually gives
35:09a window
35:09into the
35:10mind of
35:10this man
35:11Umarun
35:11Nabi
35:11he was
35:13actually also
35:14somewhere down
35:14the line
35:14feeling that
35:15he wouldn't
35:16be catched
35:16because while
35:17there is a
35:18raid that's
35:18going on in
35:18Faridabad on
35:19the 10th of
35:19November
35:20and there was
35:20a raid going
35:21on on the
35:219th of
35:22November
35:22this man
35:22actually goes
35:23around
35:23thinking that
35:24he will not
35:25get caught
35:25so he was
35:26also very
35:26confident about
35:27his moves
35:28about the
35:28plan that
35:28he was
35:29plotting in
35:29his mind
35:29and unfortunately
35:31he also ended
35:31up executing
35:32the suicide
35:33blast that
35:34took now at
35:35least 14
35:35total lives
35:36in this
35:37particular case
35:38Be with
35:39Ashriya
35:40coming back
35:40to you in
35:41a moment
35:41from now
35:41to tell our
35:42viewers
35:42images on
35:43your screen
35:44on the
35:44right side
35:44of your
35:45screen
35:45are from
35:45the very
35:46moment
35:46on the
35:4710th of
35:47November
35:48when he
35:48was in
35:49fact seen
35:50outside the
35:50mosque
35:50that is
35:51the I-20
35:51car that
35:52you see
35:52on your
35:53screen
35:53at this
35:54point in
35:54time
35:54later on
35:55it was
35:56in fact
35:57used
35:57in fact
35:58to carry
35:59out the
36:00bombing
36:00the explosion
36:01right outside
36:02the metro
36:03gate of
36:04the Redport
36:05area
36:05in Old
36:07Delhi
36:08and that's
36:08where the
36:08attack
36:09was carried
36:10out
36:10in fact
36:11we'll go
36:12back to
36:12that video
36:13that we've
36:13now accessed
36:14of Dr.
36:16Umar
36:16trying to
36:17radicalize
36:17others
36:18and talking
36:19about suicide
36:19bombing
36:20as well
36:21listen in
36:21one of
36:25the
36:26very
36:27misunderstood
36:28concept
36:28is
36:29concept
36:29of
36:30what has
36:31been
36:31labeled
36:31as
36:31suicide
36:32bombing
36:32it is
36:34martyrdom
36:36operation
36:37is
36:37and it
36:39is being
36:39known
36:40in
36:42there are
36:45multiple
36:47contraindications
36:51there are
36:52multiple arguments
36:53that have been
36:53brought against it
36:54martyrdom
36:56operation
36:57is
36:57when a
36:59person
36:59presumes
37:02that he
37:04is going
37:05for sure
37:06die
37:08at a
37:09particular
37:09place
37:10at a
37:11particular
37:11time
37:12he goes
37:15against
37:16the
37:17presumption
37:19that a
37:20particular
37:20is going
37:22to die
37:23in a
37:23particular
37:23situation
37:24it's
37:26not
37:27we don't
37:28have
37:29we don't
37:30have
37:31situation
37:35all right
37:37these are
37:38details
37:38that we
37:38have
37:39with us
37:39a
37:39we have
37:40the
37:40video
37:40of
37:40omar
37:41as you
37:41can
37:41you
37:42heard him
37:42in fact
37:42talking
37:43about
37:43suicide
37:44bombing
37:44saying
37:45it is
37:46rather
37:46misunderstood
37:47and then
37:48he goes
37:48on
37:49of course
37:50to talk
37:50about
37:51how
37:51this is
37:52really
37:52going to
37:53put you
37:53on the
37:53path
37:54to
37:54martyrdom
37:54in that
37:55sense
37:56Shreya
37:56also continues
37:57to be
37:57with us
37:58and so
37:58does
37:58Amit Shreya
37:59to you
38:00first
38:00once again
38:01take our
38:01viewers
38:01to the
38:02details
38:03of your
38:03insights
38:04and your
38:05perspective
38:05into how
38:06reverse
38:07psychology
38:07is often
38:08used by
38:09these
38:09terrorists
38:09that's
38:10what
38:10omar
38:10is doing
38:11at this
38:11point
38:12in time
38:12well
38:14Sneha
38:15you know
38:15this is
38:16something
38:16that everyone
38:16who's
38:17tracked down
38:17terrorism
38:18for a
38:18very long
38:18time
38:19especially
38:19the
38:19investigators
38:20are
38:21speaking
38:22to us
38:22that in
38:23lone wolf
38:24style
38:25self grooming
38:25this is a
38:26very commonly
38:27used
38:27radicalization
38:28method
38:29now reverse
38:30psychology
38:30is when
38:30you introduce
38:31a concept
38:32which in
38:33this case
38:33is suicide
38:33bombing
38:34you talk
38:35about the
38:35contradictions
38:36of it
38:36you go
38:37into a
38:37debate
38:37like
38:39technology
38:39and then
38:40you also
38:41go ahead
38:41and said
38:42that this
38:42is a
38:42misconception
38:43there is
38:44a misconception
38:45about suicide
38:46bombing
38:46so he'll
38:47first start
38:47a debate
38:48he'll play
38:49with people's
38:49mind
38:49he'll get
38:50them under
38:50their fold
38:51and then
38:51he's introducing
38:52that this is
38:53a possible
38:53method of
38:54sacrificing
38:54so this is
38:55one aspect
38:56into how
38:56radicalization
38:57work
38:57second
38:57because this
38:58is a
38:58digital content
38:59and because
39:00it's also
39:00being shared
39:01to other
39:01individuals
39:02possibly if
39:03this would
39:03have made
39:04outside of
39:05his own
39:06fold he
39:06wouldn't have
39:07got caught
39:08because anyone
39:08who would have
39:09read the lines
39:10would have
39:10thought that
39:11he doesn't
39:13make sense
39:14about it
39:14but these
39:15are classic
39:15tactics
39:16these are
39:17coded
39:18radicalization
39:19tactics
39:19that are
39:20often found
39:21in various
39:22terror
39:22outfit
39:23groups
39:23ISIS
39:24chat rooms
39:25be it
39:25al-qaeda
39:26digital grooming
39:27sessions
39:27so clearly
39:28not the first
39:29time we are
39:29seeing but
39:29definitely
39:30for the first
39:31time in the
39:31Delhi terror
39:32blast we are
39:33getting a
39:33window into
39:34how radicalization
39:35was used as
39:36a technology
39:36is a tactic
39:37beg your pardon
39:38to actually get
39:39more and more
39:40individuals under
39:41him we have
39:41already confirmation
39:42from the
39:43investigators
39:43than multiple
39:44young recruits
39:45where under
39:46the fold of
39:47Umarun Nabi
39:47he was the
39:48most radicalized
39:48member of the
39:49terror module
39:50the plan was to
39:51carry out
39:51multiple serial
39:52blasts for
39:53that he needed
39:54multiple lone
39:55wolves who
39:55would be
39:56suicide bombers
39:57and we also
39:58do know that
39:58the arrested
39:59individual Danish
40:00had backed
40:00out last
40:01moment that
40:02will give us
40:02a window into
40:03how radical
40:04Islamist minds
40:05also play in
40:06this context
40:07because it is
40:08against the
40:09tenets of
40:09Islam to
40:09consume one's
40:10body by fire
40:11and that is the
40:12reason
40:12Umar knows
40:13that he will
40:14have to play
40:14with people's
40:15mind for them
40:16to groom and
40:17believe that
40:17the idea of
40:18suicide bombing
40:19is taken as
40:20a misconception
40:20and despite
40:21contradictions
40:22this is an
40:23idea of
40:23sacrifice
40:24so that is
40:24the window
40:25this video
40:25is giving
40:26into the
40:26mind of
40:27one of the
40:27most radicalized
40:28member of the
40:28group
40:28Umarun Nabi
40:29you know
40:30I also want to
40:31ask you
40:31you did say
40:32that he was
40:33trying to
40:33indoctrinate
40:34and radicalize
40:34just so many
40:35more people
40:35himself
40:36was considered
40:37one of the
40:37most radicalized
40:38among the
40:38lot
40:39talk to us
40:40about whether
40:41you know
40:42what is
40:43in which
40:44direction the
40:44investigations
40:45are headed
40:46in terms of
40:46you know
40:48bringing the
40:49others also
40:49to justice
40:50those who
40:51were being
40:52groomed in
40:52that sense
40:53under Umar
40:54how many
40:54people could
40:55have been
40:55there
40:56what about
40:57the module
40:58where are
40:59possibly all
41:00of these
41:00people right
41:01now
41:01given that
41:02it's worrying
41:03that this was
41:03a series of
41:04blasts
41:05that they were
41:06in fact eventually
41:07trying to
41:08you know
41:08planning to
41:09carry out
41:09in Delhi
41:10and elsewhere
41:10absolutely
41:11and Sneha
41:12you know
41:12this is
41:12probably one
41:13of the
41:13largest
41:14challenge
41:14at the
41:14hand of
41:14our
41:15investigators
41:15to understand
41:16how far
41:17and wide
41:17the reach
41:18of these
41:18videos
41:19have actually
41:19gone
41:20because more
41:21and more
41:21people could
41:22have been
41:22under his
41:23fault
41:23already
41:24radicalized
41:24in the
41:25context of
41:26being radicalized
41:27so that's
41:28important because
41:28if we do
41:29know that
41:29all our
41:30agencies who
41:31track down
41:31terror
41:31they also
41:32do run
41:33deradicalization
41:34centers
41:34so if
41:35individuals
41:35are identified
41:36in the
41:37process of
41:37this
41:37investigation
41:38by the
41:38NIEA
41:39that they've
41:40been radicalized
41:40they will
41:41also have to
41:41be booked
41:43and also have
41:44to be picked
41:44up because
41:44they need
41:45to go
41:45an entire
41:46process of
41:47deradicalization
41:47as well
41:48so we have
41:48a lot of
41:49challenge at
41:50hand right
41:50now
41:50the investigators
41:51are also
41:52trying to
41:52understand
41:53how far
41:54and wide
41:54these videos
41:55spread
41:55we do
41:56already know
41:56the telegram
41:57and sessions
41:57chat app
41:58was actually
41:58used to
41:59recruit
42:00more and more
42:01people
42:01there are
42:01individuals who
42:02have been
42:02identified in
42:03Haryana
42:03but it's
42:04not limited
42:05to Haryana
42:05is what
42:06also
42:06investigators
42:07are saying
42:07so that
42:08is a bigger
42:08task in
42:09hand and
42:09we do
42:09know that
42:10the National
42:11Investigative
42:11Agency
42:12with the
42:12help of
42:12Delhi
42:13Police
42:13Jammu and
42:14Kishmir
42:14Police
42:14and Faridabad
42:15Police
42:15are carrying
42:15out multiple
42:16raids along
42:17with UPATS
42:18as well
42:19to first
42:19announce the
42:20widespread of
42:21this
42:21module who
42:23and who
42:24not they
42:25have reached
42:25in the
42:25country right
42:26now
42:26I'm also
42:28in fact going
42:28to go back
42:29to Amit
42:29for more
42:30on that
42:30story
42:30Amit
42:31viewers
42:32continues to
42:32be at
42:33the
42:33Alphala
42:33University
42:34where all
42:35of this
42:35was being
42:36planned
42:36Amit
42:37Alphala
42:37has been
42:38under
42:38the
42:38scanner
42:39you know
42:40talk to
42:40us about
42:41what the
42:41administration
42:42is also
42:42now saying
42:43as more
42:43details
42:45unravel
42:45into
42:46the
42:46sinister
42:47plot
42:47to carry
42:49out
42:49not one
42:49but several
42:50attacks
42:51across the
42:52country
42:52what is it
42:53that you're
42:53picking up
42:54is anybody
42:54speaking
42:55at all
42:55at Alphala
43:02University
43:03it seems
43:03to be
43:03closed
43:04gates
43:04only
43:05those
43:05who are
43:05coming
43:06to the
43:06campus
43:06or the
43:07hospital
43:07facility
43:08are being
43:08allowed
43:08inside
43:09and the
43:10crime branch
43:10personnel
43:11are present
43:11inside the
43:12campus
43:13randomly
43:13checking the
43:14cars
43:14which also
43:15points out
43:16at the
43:17possible hint
43:18that as to
43:18how the
43:19agencies are
43:19still on
43:20their toes
43:20as far as
43:21Alphala
43:21University
43:22campus is
43:23concerned
43:23and now
43:24why that is
43:24happening
43:25you know
43:25if you look
43:26at the
43:26video of
43:27Umar
43:28what is
43:29that
43:30that is
43:30a digital
43:31evidence
43:31which has
43:31been recovered
43:32by the
43:32investigative
43:33agencies
43:34in context
43:35to the
43:35Red Fort
43:36blast
43:37as well
43:37as further
43:38sinister
43:39plans
43:39which were
43:40being
43:40has by
43:40these
43:41individuals
43:41now
43:42what these
43:44evidences
43:44are going
43:44to do
43:45is that
43:45you will
43:46be able
43:46to connect
43:47more dots
43:48whether
43:48these videos
43:49were actually
43:49sent out
43:50on several
43:51platforms
43:51as
43:52Sher
43:52was also
43:53pointing out
43:53at Telegram
43:54who were
43:55the
43:55people
43:56attached
43:57with those
43:57communication
43:58channels
43:59on Telegram
43:59because
44:00many of
44:01the times
44:01what the
44:02module
44:02has been
44:03across the
44:03globe
44:04is that
44:04you create
44:05a channel
44:05certain
44:06individuals
44:07become
44:07subscribers
44:08and many
44:08of the
44:08times
44:09these
44:09are
44:09hidden
44:12channels
44:12playing
44:14out
44:14as if
44:15they are
44:15some
44:15random
44:16message
44:17or educational
44:18or academic
44:19channel
44:20on Telegram
44:21where you
44:22actually
44:22end up
44:23putting
44:23such
44:24content
44:25in
44:25between
44:25for
44:26the
44:27people
44:27this
44:29content
44:29reaching
44:30for
44:30people
44:30which
44:31are
44:31intended
44:32to
44:32get
44:33these
44:34videos
44:34so
44:35once
44:35once
44:35you
44:35have
44:35videos
44:36coming
44:36out
44:37the
44:37investigative
44:37agency
44:38zeroing
44:38down
44:39through
44:39the
44:40digital
44:40devices
44:41which
44:41have
44:41been
44:41seized
44:42during
44:43the
44:43probe
44:44so
44:44far
44:45what
44:46the
44:46agencies
44:47would be
44:48also
44:49looking at
44:49is
44:50connecting
44:50the dots
44:50and
44:51actually
44:51finding
44:52out
44:53and
44:53zeroing
44:54down
44:54whether
44:54several
44:55other
44:55individuals
44:56were
44:57radicalized
44:58through
44:58such
44:59content
44:59because
44:59what
45:00we
45:00are
45:00given
45:00to
45:00understand
45:01that
45:01Umar
45:02was
45:02actually
45:02using
45:03this
45:03particular
45:04video
45:04or
45:05rather
45:05rehearsal
45:06videos
45:06so to
45:07say
45:07in
45:08order
45:08to
45:09convince
45:09people
45:10around
45:10him
45:11to
45:11radicalize
45:12them
45:13and to
45:13convince
45:13them
45:14about
45:14the
45:14idea
45:15of
45:15suicide
45:15bombing
45:16as
45:16Sreya
45:17was
45:17also
45:17pointing
45:17out
45:18at
45:18Danish
45:19as to
45:20how
45:20he
45:20backed
45:20out
45:21in
45:21the
45:21last
45:21moment
45:22as
45:22far
45:22as
45:23suicide
45:23bombing
45:23was
45:24concerned
45:24so
45:25you
45:25create
45:25such
45:26content
45:26in
45:26order
45:26to
45:27ensure
45:27that
45:27radicalization
45:28happens
45:29and
45:29people
45:29are
45:30able
45:30to
45:30take
45:31that
45:31final
45:31sinister
45:32step
45:33in
45:33the
45:33bigger
45:34plan
45:34of
45:35killing
45:36the
45:36innocent
45:37civilians
45:38anywhere
45:39and
45:40that
45:40was
45:40the
45:41step
45:41that
45:41Umar
45:42had
45:42taken
45:42in
45:43India
45:44in
45:44Delhi
45:44at
45:45the
45:45Red
45:45Fort
45:45itself
45:46so
45:47whether
45:47that
45:48decision
45:48was
45:49unilaterally
45:49taken
45:50by him
45:50that is
45:51being
45:51probed
45:52but
45:52at
45:52this
45:52point
45:53in
45:53time
45:53this
45:53particular
45:53video
45:54also
45:54points
45:55out
45:56at
45:56the
45:56fact
45:56as to
45:57how
45:57the
45:57agencies
45:58are
45:58now
45:58zeroing
45:59down
45:59through
46:00the
46:00digital
46:01devices
46:01which
46:01have
46:01been
46:02seen
46:02so
46:02far
46:02in
46:03the
46:03probe
46:03to
46:04connect
46:05the
46:05dots
46:05and
46:05to
46:06find
46:06out
46:06as
46:07to
46:07who
46:08all
46:08would
46:08have
46:09been
46:09possibly
46:09also
46:10radicalized
46:11through
46:11these
46:11tactics
46:11that
46:12were
46:12being
46:12used
46:12by
46:13Umar
46:13and
46:14as
46:14well
46:15as
46:15the
46:15part
46:15of
46:15this
46:15sinister
46:16plan
46:16which
46:17was
46:17at
46:17play
46:17you
46:18know
46:18we
46:18know
46:19for
46:19a
46:19matter
46:19of
46:19fact
46:20that
46:20something
46:20even
46:21more
46:21bigger
46:21was
46:22being
46:23planned
46:23by
46:23these
46:24terrorists
46:24back
46:25to
46:25you
46:25be
46:25with
46:26us
46:26Amit
46:26I'll
46:26come
46:26back
46:26to
46:27you
46:27and
46:27Shreya
46:27for
46:27more
46:28on
46:28that
46:28big
46:28story
46:29that
46:29we
46:29are
46:29tracking
46:30we
46:30listen
46:30in
46:30once
46:31again
46:32to
46:32that
46:32video
46:32that
46:33has
46:33now
46:33surfaced
46:34days
46:35before
46:35the
46:36blast
46:36was
46:36skyed
46:37out
46:37in
46:37Delhi
46:37on
46:37the
46:3710th
46:38of
46:38November
46:39this
46:39was
46:39a
46:39video
46:40that
46:40Dr.
46:40Omar
46:41the
46:41bomber
46:42the
46:42suicide
46:42bomber
46:43then
46:43in
46:43fact
46:44put
46:44out
46:44to
46:45radicalize
46:45just
46:46more
46:46and
46:46more
46:46people
46:55in
46:55fact
46:55our
46:56reporters
46:56let's
46:56listen
46:57in
46:57to
46:57this
46:57video
46:58once
46:58again
46:58one
47:00of
47:01the
47:01very
47:02misunderstood
47:03concept
47:04is
47:04concert
47:04of
47:05what
47:06has
47:06been
47:06labeled
47:06as
47:07suicide
47:07bombing
47:07it
47:09is
47:09martyrdom
47:11operation
47:12and
47:14it
47:14is
47:14being
47:15known
47:15in
47:17it's
47:18not
47:18there
47:20are
47:20multiple
47:22contraindications
47:27and
47:27there
47:27are
47:27multiple
47:28arguments
47:28that
47:28have
47:28been
47:29brought
47:29against
47:29it
47:30martyrdom
47:31operation
47:32is
47:32when
47:34a
47:34person
47:34presumes
47:37that
47:39he
47:39is
47:40going
47:40for
47:40sure
47:41die
47:43at
47:44a
47:44particular
47:44place
47:45at
47:46a
47:46particular
47:47time
47:47he
47:50goes
47:51against
47:51the
47:54presumption
47:55that
47:55a
47:55particular
47:55is
47:58going
47:58to
47:58die
47:58in
47:58a
47:58particular
47:59situation
48:00is
48:02not
48:02we
48:04don't
48:04have
48:04we
48:05don't
48:06have
48:06situation
48:10investigations
48:12into the
48:13Delhi terror
48:13attack
48:14continues
48:14to be
48:14our
48:15top
48:15focus
48:15story
48:15right
48:16here
48:16for the
48:16moment
48:16we're
48:17wrapping
48:18up
48:18this
48:18edition
48:19news
48:19continues
48:19on
48:20the
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