00:00Well, in just a matter of days, things have changed dramatically at the White House.
00:05Days.
00:05Yeah.
00:06No, a nanosecond.
00:09Overnight.
00:09Overnight.
00:10It's true.
00:10This last night.
00:11The president had spent all of last week and the week before and the month before that
00:16and the month before that urging Republicans to not vote to release the Epstein files,
00:22to block this.
00:23And suddenly, last night, he said, you know what?
00:27You should vote for this.
00:29A little bit of what he said.
00:30House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide.
00:37And it's time to move on from this Democrat hoax perpetrated by radical left lunatics.
00:44And the House Oversight Committee can have whatever they are legally entitled to.
00:48I don't care.
00:50So let me just explain why this is so ridiculous.
00:54Number one, if he really wants to release it, he has the power to.
01:00The Justice Department can just release it.
01:01They do it right now.
01:02Believe me, if he told Pam Bond to release the files, she would.
01:06She would do anything he says.
01:08Secondly, more important, is what's really going on here.
01:11He has a massive defection on his hands in the House.
01:16That there were going to be a slew of Republicans, despite Donald Trump's best efforts, who are going to vote to release it.
01:24And then the signal is that there is a major fracture in MAGA.
01:30And he knows that.
01:32In fact, he knows it so well that yesterday he said what anybody says when they lose control of their group, which is, I'm the one who created MAGA.
01:42It's my MAGA.
01:44That's when you know you're losing your mind.
01:45It's true.
01:46It's his movement.
01:47So it's a fact.
01:48He's lost his grip.
01:49He has lost.
01:50I hope it's good to say that he's lost.
01:52It's nonsense.
01:53It's nonsense.
01:53He lost them on this issue and maybe a couple of others.
01:57Well, Babcock and I looked at the polls this morning.
01:59He's lost on this in a big way.
02:01He's lost in the economy.
02:03He has lost on immigration even.
02:05I showed you these polls.
02:06There's a couple polls where he's like two, three points underwater.
02:09No, not a couple.
02:09You're acting like he's at Joe Biden levels of defection.
02:13He's not a Joe Biden.
02:14He's not a Joe Biden.
02:14Here's the reality.
02:15I wrote some stuff down.
02:16Democrats, first of all, did not care about this until they thought that it could have hurt Trump.
02:21Joe Biden, you might remember, speaking of, was president for four years.
02:24No one said a damn word back then about releasing these documents.
02:27You're right.
02:27Because, again, they didn't care.
02:28Only when it involves hurting Trump.
02:30That's the only thing.
02:31So if anybody out there thinks that the Democrats care about children or what might have happened to these poor women, nonsense.
02:38It's just about hurting Donald Trump.
02:39Can't argue you.
02:40Okay.
02:41I do agree it has, I think, reached a tipping point where he can't stop it anymore.
02:46I think if you're Donald—
02:47And you've got to admit that's why he's doing this.
02:48Of course.
02:49Absolutely.
02:49I don't disagree with you at all.
02:50I don't disagree.
02:51But it's embarrassing that he thinks that nobody's going to understand and realize that.
02:56It's embarrassing.
02:58Right.
02:58Yeah, yeah, fine.
02:59This whole part of I have nothing to hide and I don't care.
03:02Well, then why didn't you just release the file?
03:03I think he should have the whole—I think the whole—I'm with you, Charles.
03:06I think the whole time he should have just said, hey, look, if there was something in there that was going to, you know, to destroy me, they would have done it years ago.
03:14But then why isn't he releasing the file?
03:16Right.
03:16I think that's a great question.
03:17Why is he doing somersaults?
03:19I don't know.
03:19Why is he calling Lauren Bobart into the situation room to change her vote?
03:24I think he thought he was powerful enough that he could just force it out of the way.
03:28But why?
03:29I don't know.
03:29He said he thought he was powerful enough.
03:31Right.
03:31So you're admitting that he's not quite that powerful.
03:33With this, he wasn't strong enough to just get—to just blow it out of the water.
03:39What is in this file that has him so scared?
03:43I don't know.
03:44We are going to be horribly disappointed.
03:47I just have this feeling that we're very disappointed.
03:50But you know what people are going to say.
03:51There's something in that file, Charles.
03:53I'm not saying he didn't—
03:54No, I know you're not.
03:55Because, again, I've talked to two people who have seen this file, and they say there's nothing untoward about him.
04:00Alan Dershowitz was his attorney.
04:02He said there's nothing that involves Trump.
04:03No, he is mentioned multiple times.
04:06Oh, we knew they were friends.
04:07I think—listen, here's what I think.
04:09It's going to show that Donald Trump knew what Jeffrey Epstein was up to for many, many years before this broke.
04:15I think that the emails that the estate submitted last week seem to be far more revealing about certain things.
04:24But we don't know.
04:25We haven't seen the emails that Justice Department has.
04:27So there's something in it that he really doesn't want people to see.
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