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00:00Let's talk about luxury, why not, right?
00:02You know, some of these foreign brands like LVMH, might have to move over, right?
00:08Things are changing in the whole $49 billion luxury market.
00:11We're spending on foreign premium brands that have actually started stalling in the mainland.
00:17And really the rise of these sort of local premium brands, right?
00:21Have you ever heard of the likes of, well, Laupu Gold, we talk about that quite a bit here.
00:25Songmont, Mao Ge Ping.
00:27I actually had to look it up a little bit, too, some of these brands.
00:31Let's bring in Shirley Zhao, our conglomerates in Consumer Reports.
00:33I guess David has no idea what we're talking about.
00:35Hang on.
00:36You haven't been to the latest renovation at the English household.
00:40Oh, Mao Ge Ping.
00:41All over.
00:42All over your face.
00:43All over.
00:43If you think the Oval Office is draped and bling, you should come to my living room.
00:48It's all Laupu.
00:49Yeah, there we go.
00:50Anyway, Shirley.
00:51Let's bring in, Shirley.
00:52Tell the rise in these Chinese premium brands.
00:54Why do you think they've grown so rapidly?
00:57So the rapid rise of these Chinese homegrown premium brands coincides with China's economic
01:04slowdown.
01:05So, you know, amid a slumping property prices and very high youth unemployment rate, a lot
01:12of Chinese consumers are now becoming more cautious and selective when it comes to shopping,
01:18especially luxury shopping.
01:20So they are now looking for, you know, personal connection on personal wellness and experience,
01:27and they are seeking connection on the sort of cultural level with the stuff that they
01:33buy.
01:34And Chinese premium brands have done much better in providing this experiential and cultural
01:41element in their brand storytelling.
01:44And that's attracted a lot of Chinese consumers.
01:47And also these Chinese premium brands on the pricing level, they're not as expensive as
01:55luxury, a lot of Western luxury brands.
01:57But they're still having this premium price tag.
02:01And, you know, for a lot of Chinese consumers, they see these Chinese brands as a sort of cheaper
02:08alternative to Western luxury brands.
02:11But still, they provide good quality products.
02:15Yeah.
02:15So not as luxury.
02:16I mean, just looking at the price point.
02:18So what challenges, if they nail the messaging and sort of the identity part of it, what challenges
02:24remain here?
02:26So a big part of their success is that they started off at a relatively low base.
02:32So it's relatively easy for you to grow to 20 or 30 starting from 10.
02:38But if you want to grow further, there are a lot of uncertainties.
02:44So whether this kind of rapid growth is sustainable, it remains to be seen.
02:49And also, you know, China's economy remains weak.
02:51And for luxury brands to really grow, it needs a growth economy.
02:56And it needs an expanding population and income for the middle class.
03:01And these elements are lacking in China nowadays.
03:04So all these uncertainties have become challenges for homegrown Chinese luxury brands.
03:10I love your story that mentioned about Bernard Arnault when he last went to China.
03:14He's the chairman of LVMH.
03:16Come on.
03:18It wasn't like he was looking at his own brands.
03:20He went shopping in Chinese brands, according to your reporting.
03:23I thought it was quite telling.
03:24What's sort of the message, I think, does this rise of local premium brands?
03:29What's the message to some of these big foreign brands out there now and how to really survive
03:32or at least compete in China?
03:34Right.
03:34So a lot of Western luxury brands are nowadays really stressing storytelling
03:39and providing experiential shopping for Chinese consumers.
03:43They have captured this change in consumer shopping behavior in China.
03:47So, for example, LVMH is right now building a lot of, you know, multi-story mega stores featuring
03:56not just retail elements, but as well as, you know, exhibition, food and drinks.
04:01There's that big ship, right?
04:03In Shanghai.
04:03Yes.
04:03In Shanghai.
04:03In Shanghai.
04:03Yes.
04:03The Louie.
04:05Yeah, the Louie.
04:05In Shanghai.
04:05In Shanghai.
04:06Yes.
04:06And a lot of other Western luxury brands are doing this right now.
04:10So in the past, you know, you can see them having small street front stores.
04:15And that did very well and a lot of people queued up outside.
04:19But nowadays, it's like stores occupying an entire building and providing a lot more just
04:26than the retail element.
04:28And these are what the luxury brands are doing in China right now.
04:32And they are hoping by doing these, they can build this personal connection with Chinese
04:38consumers.
04:38Not just shops, but buildings, Dave.
04:40They got to, yeah.
04:41You got to do it.
04:42You got to spend a lot of time in there, right?
04:44It's not just the champagne.
04:45It used to be just, I'm going in so I can have the glass of champagne.
04:49No.
04:49Right?
04:50It's everything else.
04:50It's a whole experience.
04:51All right.
04:52Shirley, it was a great story.
04:53Thank you so much.
04:53Try it sometime.
04:53Our conglomerate and consumer reporter.
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