00:00This is timely and this is very interesting. What do we learn in the course of reporting about how serious this this move is to push Huawei out of the market that it is very strong in in Europe.
00:12Yeah I think it's actually really important to know people do not realize that there's still so much Huawei kit in various EU countries infrastructures and the European Commission for years has wanted to push EU countries to stop using this technology across their networks.
00:28They have really failed to do so. And the new commission that came in two years ago they're doing a new push and try to get different EU countries to push out force out Huawei and ZTE.
00:40Now I cannot overstate how difficult this is going to be. Like I said the previous commission tried to do this and they did not have the political backing.
00:47Things like critical infrastructure things like national security. These are left up to the member states of the EU. So essentially what has to happen is these countries all have to come together and say yes actually
00:56we're going to hand over that power to Brussels to the European Commission to make that a reality. That is a tough pill for a lot of countries to swallow.
01:05Countries such as in your piece you make clear Spain, Greece which have remained relatively dependent. Interestingly UK we know that they've been pulling away for a long time banned any Huawei infrastructure.
01:15It's similar with Sweden. So it can be done. It's interesting that China sort of tried to point out that it slowed those nations down though.
01:22Yeah that's a great point Caroline because you know a lot of the operators and independent analysis has been done to show that actually by forcing a strip out of Huawei from the UK networks that delayed 5G roll by up to two years.
01:35This is a very costly ambition from certain countries that they want to go ahead with this kind of push. Not only does it delay possible you know technology development.
01:44It also comes at a great cost to the operators. So if you look at Germany for example some people in the government are examining ways that okay if they were to try to force
01:52Huawei NCT out of their networks could they compensate operators. That obviously would soften the blow for a lot of these operators. But this would come at a great cost then to governments if not operators.
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