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Tobin and Leroy recap Miami Dolphins Week 10 win over the Bills. Jaxson Dart suffered a gnarly concussion in Giants loss to the Bears. How ridiculous was this penalty call on Bradley Chubb for taunting?!
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00:00The Dolphins improved to 3-7.
00:02Woo-hoo!
00:04Well, it does feel good.
00:05I hate that team.
00:07You know what I like, though?
00:08I saw this champ, Kelly, walking out of the tunnel.
00:13No ball cap on his stupid suit.
00:16That's a start, Dan Day.
00:18Not to get too far ahead of ourselves,
00:20next three games,
00:21Commanders without Jaden Daniels,
00:23the Saints,
00:24and a Pittsburgh team that looks awful.
00:27Understand.
00:28Understand.
00:30They also played the Browns,
00:32and you had the same conversation.
00:34We've had this conversation before.
00:36And the Panthers.
00:38It's not like...
00:40Maybe they're looking at us and saying,
00:43maybe they're looking at the Dolphins and going,
00:45we got the Dolphins next week.
00:46We can get some get-right.
00:47I don't think we're allowed...
00:48The Slump Buster never realizes they're the Slump Buster.
00:51Yep.
00:52We do have a Jets game in there, though.
00:54Man, nobody showed up.
00:55Oh, yeah, I forgot about that, too.
00:55Nobody showed up to that Jets game.
00:57Who just beat the Browns?
00:59Dude, what are you guys going to do with this Dillon Gabriel?
01:01He's not very good.
01:03That's...
01:03Look, so...
01:05So, I've been called every name...
01:08Kind of like you do.
01:09What?
01:09When you're having conversations with stupid people,
01:13they aren't listening to what you're saying.
01:15They're hearing what you want to hear.
01:18And so, what I said was,
01:20it's the coach's job to win.
01:23Right?
01:24If he thinks Dillon Gabriel gives him the best chance to win,
01:28that's who he'll have in it.
01:29I said,
01:30I don't know
01:31why he's in there above
01:36Shadour.
01:38I said,
01:39forget where they got drafted.
01:40Once you get drafted,
01:42it's about football after that.
01:43Anybody who thinks,
01:45oh, he's only playing because he's a third-rounder
01:47and Shadour is,
01:47is, again, stupid.
01:49Okay?
01:50Because, guess what?
01:51In Seattle,
01:53Russell Wilson got drafted
01:54and they paid somebody $25 million
01:56and he never played a play.
01:58Matt Flynn.
01:59Matt Flynn.
02:00So, it's about winning.
02:02And I wish people would understand that.
02:04So, I'm guessing the coach's staff thinks
02:06that Dillon Gabriel is better.
02:08Which is saying a lot
02:10and not a lot.
02:12Right?
02:12It's not saying a lot about your options
02:14and it's saying a lot about who's behind it.
02:17Now, when we watch Shadour,
02:18and I've said this to you
02:20since they were in college,
02:22I said,
02:23to me,
02:24I would go with Cam Ward
02:27because I've seen Cam Ward make
02:28on-time throws.
02:30Drop back,
02:31plant his foot,
02:32throw the ball,
02:32read the defense,
02:33boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
02:35I haven't seen it as much with Shadour.
02:37Maybe it's because I haven't seen as many games.
02:40Now,
02:41when I watch him in the preseason,
02:43what does everybody say?
02:44Oh, he's able to run around and make plays.
02:47Well, to a coach,
02:49to a coach,
02:50yes,
02:51they want a quarterback who can make plays,
02:53but they also don't want you
02:55passing up plays that are there
02:57because you can't read the defense.
03:00I don't know how much of that is that.
03:03I don't know how much of it is he's not good,
03:06but that was my view based on
03:08what I had seen before then.
03:10Everybody's flipping out.
03:12Oh, you just,
03:13this is what I mean about the Shadour hate.
03:15All right, dude.
03:18Like,
03:18like,
03:19um,
03:21like,
03:21okay.
03:22Like,
03:22I don't know what to tell you.
03:23Like,
03:24that's not what I said.
03:25But we can see coaches make stubborn decisions
03:26from time to time.
03:27I thought that happened last year
03:28with,
03:28uh,
03:28with Terry Rozier.
03:29Like,
03:29I thought that Spoh was playing Terry Rozier
03:31way too long.
03:33Almost like he was trying to make something work out
03:35because you gave up so much for him.
03:36Yeah.
03:37But,
03:37but the,
03:38the other thing is,
03:39is that sometimes coaches get in their mind.
03:43I know this guy can do it.
03:45I just need to coach him up,
03:47which is kind of contradicting what I'm saying
03:49when he's dealing with Kalel.
03:51Because soon as the first sign of,
03:53soon as the first sign of,
03:55uh,
03:55uh,
03:56uh,
03:57of disappointment,
03:58he rips him out.
03:59Yep.
03:59You know?
04:00So maybe that is it.
04:01I don't,
04:02I don't know,
04:02but they're both.
04:03Listen,
04:04one's drafted in the third round,
04:06one's drafted in the fifth round.
04:07You know what that says to me?
04:09Both of them need development.
04:10So if you're going to jam them
04:12and force them both to have to play
04:14at this early in their career,
04:16you got another DTR situation from last year.
04:20Dorian Tom,
04:21uh,
04:21Tom's and Robbins,
04:22right last year,
04:23he wasn't ready to play,
04:25but you threw him in there
04:26and now I can't find him.
04:27Did they have that running back?
04:29Was he hurt yesterday or something?
04:30What happened?
04:30Who,
04:31um,
04:31the dude who ran all over the Dolphins.
04:33Junkins.
04:33Yeah.
04:34He played yesterday.
04:36So anyway,
04:37Dan day,
04:37I don't know if I could chalk any of these up,
04:39dude.
04:39I mean,
04:39yeah,
04:40they lost to the Browns.
04:41No,
04:41I just said,
04:41those are the opponents ahead of us.
04:43Hey,
04:44did,
04:44did,
04:44uh,
04:45once again,
04:45we're jumping to conclusions.
04:46I said,
04:46just look out.
04:47We got these teams ahead of us.
04:49All right.
04:50Hey,
04:50how about the,
04:51uh,
04:52I'm surprised you didn't hit us with the sealer on up right away.
04:55I'm very happy for him.
04:57Uh,
04:58you know,
04:59it's been a tough year for him.
05:00And also they never sacked that quarterback.
05:03So I was happy that they were able to bring him down.
05:05Ooh,
05:05he got them good too.
05:06No slipping,
05:07no slip.
05:08Like he had the jaws of life.
05:10Cause it isn't like,
05:10he did have like two of those stupid plays where he completely reversed his
05:13field and you can't catch him.
05:15Dude,
05:15there's nothing worse than seeing the quarterback reverse field back and
05:18forth and seeing the fat guys getting tired on both sides.
05:22Yeah.
05:22I can see.
05:22Oh no.
05:23Like he's running.
05:24He just,
05:25I almost had him,
05:27but you know,
05:27this kind of goes to my point.
05:30That's annoying about Josh Allen is like the guy,
05:32the guy is the most unbreakable thing in the league.
05:34And yet we treat him like he's a little baby.
05:36Like Bradley Chubb.
05:38That was a great sack that he had.
05:40He jumped on him like a pit bull on a pork chop.
05:42And then they're like taunting.
05:46Right.
05:46Are you kidding me?
05:47I would talk to.
05:48It's impossible to tackle him.
05:50And you're like,
05:51he's,
05:51he does a little bit.
05:52And then,
05:52you know,
05:53they're like,
05:53Oh,
05:53he kind of was over him a little bit too much.
05:55Yeah.
05:56Because you have to climb a ladder to get over him when he's on the ground.
05:59I mean,
06:00the craziest thing was,
06:01it's like,
06:01Hey buddy,
06:03we're two and seven.
06:05Anytime something good happens,
06:06we're going to celebrate that celebration in the locker room.
06:09Did you watch it yesterday?
06:10The dolphins were surfing in towel carts after the game.
06:14Let me get this for you.
06:15So you can see this.
06:16It was ridiculous behavior after winning,
06:18but I understand that.
06:19But keep in mind,
06:20keep in mind.
06:21it's not that they want is that they beat that team.
06:28You know what I mean?
06:29It's like they beat that team.
06:32Like I'm more than sure if I was one in seven or one or Nate,
06:35we'd be Pittsburgh when I was playing.
06:41The surfing in the towel carts.
06:45I've never seen that move.
06:49They were very happy.
06:51Very happy.
06:52Hey,
06:52they had some crazy stats during that game too.
06:55That's like more energy than they had.
06:59During the game.
07:00Yeah.
07:01Like where's all that?
07:02I don't know.
07:03I don't know.
07:03I love that.
07:04Mike McDaniel always has to go on a stool to,
07:06to speak to people.
07:07I mean,
07:08Hey,
07:08can we,
07:09can you pull his pants down at least?
07:10Nope.
07:11That's his look.
07:12Is it true that he went to elbow room?
07:14Is that a real picture?
07:15Cause I don't,
07:16I can't believe the internet anymore.
07:17Oh,
07:17he was driving.
07:18Somebody caught a picture,
07:20alleged picture of Mike McDaniel,
07:21driving by elbow room,
07:23uh,
07:24to rubbing,
07:25rub the salt and bills wounds.
07:26Uh,
07:27bills fans wounds.
07:28Oh,
07:28some jukebox said,
07:29Leroy,
07:30it's simple.
07:30There's this.
07:31It's like Fonz finally beating you.
07:33That ain't going to happen.
07:35Depends on says surfing in towel carts is what you do when the papa shot is gone.
07:42Fair point.
07:44He's right.
07:45He is.
07:45That's what you,
07:46where you don't,
07:47I saw some crazy penalties.
07:49Get called.
07:51Um,
07:52like at what point are these officials going to say,
07:55you know what?
07:56Let them play a little bit.
07:57Right.
07:58Like that.
07:59Let them have fun.
08:00Oh,
08:01I couldn't believe they called taunting.
08:02I was like,
08:03are you kidding me?
08:04Like what,
08:05what do you mean taunting?
08:06Like he,
08:06first of all,
08:07he wasn't even,
08:07he ran away from him skipping like a,
08:10like,
08:10like a child.
08:11Uh,
08:12he called said,
08:12that's an AI pick.
08:13I'm taking a masterclass in AI.
08:16I wish it was.
08:17Look,
08:18I don't know if it's AI or not.
08:20It probably is AI.
08:21It's a great picture.
08:22Because wait,
08:23here's where you,
08:23here's where you know.
08:24So first they take the picture of Mike McDaniel,
08:27right?
08:28And then he takes a picture with Mike McDaniel still in the same position,
08:34but now he's in the picture.
08:36Like that can't be real.
08:37I don't know.
08:38Did he wait that long?
08:39I don't know.
08:40No,
08:41I don't know if he was sitting there being like,
08:43if he,
08:44if he was peacocking a little right by,
08:46uh,
08:47right by the beach,
08:47it is funny because there was a lot of like kind of upsets yesterday.
08:54Yeah.
08:55Saints beat the,
08:56uh,
08:56the Panthers.
08:56Saints beat the Panthers.
08:57What do you think of Tyler?
08:58Shuck.
09:00Uh,
09:00Dan day.
09:01You're not pretty good.
09:02I mean,
09:02it's still hard to tell.
09:03They're so young and well,
09:04not young,
09:05but so bad early in his career.
09:07He's got such bad talent around,
09:09but a lot of is good though.
09:10At least they have like,
09:12there's,
09:12there's a lot of teams that have terrible quarterbacks that have weapons
09:17around them.
09:17So it kind of hides it a little bit.
09:19The Browns got nothing.
09:21They got no,
09:22I receive Jerry.
09:23Judy,
09:23Judy can't separate from that wall.
09:26He's cooked.
09:27It's just,
09:27I don't know.
09:28He can catch,
09:29but he's never been the guy who like,
09:31when you think of,
09:32Oh,
09:32that guy gets open.
09:35Doesn't really never been that guy.
09:37Steve says,
09:37I think he teabagged Allen.
09:39I don't think it was long enough.
09:40To qualify.
09:42No.
09:43Why isn't Allen even in the picture?
09:46That's why he's like,
09:47he's dragging all over him.
09:49And like,
09:49I get it.
09:49He,
09:50but he kind of like,
09:51he jumped on him.
09:52Like it was a jump tackle.
09:53I thought they were going to get him for like a high hit.
09:55I was like,
09:55Oh,
09:56that's another ridiculous one.
09:57So I thought they were going to get him for hitting high,
09:59but he gets him down and they were like taunting.
10:02I'm like,
10:02are you kidding me,
10:03dude?
10:03Get out of here.
10:05I don't trust Leroy's assessment of anything tech related.
10:08Hitting the a gap.
10:10Yeah.
10:11Deciphering AI.
10:12No chance.
10:12I don't know.
10:13I was just reading Al Mackie.
10:15I didn't do it.
10:16I don't know if it's AI or not.
10:17I'm really,
10:17I'm really,
10:18I'm really,
10:18that's,
10:18that's what,
10:19um,
10:19who said it?
10:23I just read it.
10:24I just read jukebox said it.
10:27He called said it.
10:28He called,
10:28he called said he's,
10:30he's in the AI.
10:31So I took his word for it.
10:32Go figure.
10:33Like,
10:34yeah,
10:34somebody says they're into that.
10:35I'm going to take their,
10:37take their word for it.
10:40Crazy.
10:41But anyway,
10:42um,
10:43yeah.
10:43And Schmieden typical for Schmieden to come in.
10:45Chubbs jumped on him like a spider monkey.
10:47He did.
10:48He jumped on him like a monkey on a cupcake.
10:50He's just like,
10:51he got it crazy,
10:53dude.
10:53But it was like,
10:55um,
10:56from my standpoint,
10:57I,
10:58I,
10:58I didn't,
10:59I thought that it just happened because he jumped on Josh Allen and
11:02that's where they were going to call it.
11:03No,
11:04they called taunting.
11:05And I'm like,
11:05but he's far away.
11:08Like you don't like,
11:10don't the guy has to be in the picture.
11:12Oh,
11:12he has to be facing somebody or in somebody's face.
11:15Taunting is supposed to be yet in somebody's face.
11:17If he was pelvic,
11:18like thrusting over him.
11:19Okay.
11:20Too much.
11:20That's a swag penalty.
11:22Yeah.
11:22That's,
11:23that's a swag penalty.
11:24That's too much.
11:25Bradley Chubb doing a sack and then doing his celebration far away from Josh Allen.
11:32That's the opposite of taunting.
11:33That's minding your business.
11:35He didn't do anything to him,
11:37but again,
11:38it's Josh Allen.
11:39You have to protect them.
11:40You know,
11:40it reminded me of a,
11:41remember when,
11:42remember when Jalen Phillips was like just near Justin Herbert a couple of years ago and
11:47they call that roughing the passer on him.
11:49And he was like,
11:49he tries like,
11:50ah,
11:51no,
11:52roughing the passer.
11:52They protect.
11:53No,
11:53but what happened to one quarterback?
11:54They laid it on the ground and they still called it.
11:57Dude,
11:57speaking of quarterbacks,
11:58he had protection.
11:58This Jackson Dart,
11:59you see that hit that he took yesterday?
12:02A matter of time for him.
12:04Well,
12:04like,
12:05you know,
12:05it takes young guys a couple of times before they realize that I can't play like that.
12:11They said they've tested him for concussions four times this season already.
12:15Jackson Dart.
12:16Dude,
12:16that was a bad one.
12:19He got face planted.
12:20That was,
12:21that was not great.
12:23Oh,
12:24I remember that.
12:25Was it one or two was one,
12:28two or three hip pumps.
12:30Remember that he said,
12:30I get three.
12:31I get three.
12:32I think he got five,
12:3315 grand.
12:34I know he did zero yesterday.
12:35Rico daddle.
12:36Yeah.
12:36And then he just was like,
12:38he just,
12:39he just sat like this.
12:42And then he ran off.
12:45Like,
12:45yeah,
12:46man,
12:46he said,
12:47no,
12:47no,
12:47no,
12:47no.
12:48Three pumps.
12:49You get fine.
12:49Two pumps.
12:50You don't get fine.
12:52Dade South says,
12:53I think it's because he rubbed his chub all over Alan's face.
12:56Where is he supposed to go?
12:58What is he supposed to go?
12:59You know,
12:59I don't know.
12:59I don't understand this.
13:00So hold on.
13:01You know what?
13:02You know why that didn't happen?
13:03Cause there was no fighting.
13:04That would have been a fight.
13:05That would have been a fight.
13:06I'm telling you,
13:07dude,
13:07you don't know how,
13:09like I'd rather be spit on.
13:12Don't you?
13:12Then a guy walking over.
13:14So if he jumps on you,
13:16like,
13:16what is he supposed to do?
13:17Roll this way.
13:18What is he supposed to do?
13:20It's like the things defensive guys have to do to make sure they don't rough the passer.
13:24Like they'll hit him and they'll go.
13:26Like,
13:27like,
13:27I mean,
13:28or,
13:28or like you put yourself in harm's way.
13:30If you run out of quarterback,
13:32he throws the ball.
13:32You got to go.
13:33I'm just glad it wasn't a close game at that point.
13:35Cause if it was,
13:35and that would have cost the dolphins,
13:37I would have lost.
13:37I legitimately don't think I would have watched football anymore.
13:40I think,
13:40you know what?
13:41I might've written a letter.
13:42There is nothing.
13:45I,
13:46there's nothing that was going to happen at the end of that game to put them back in.
13:52No,
13:52nothing.
13:53No.
13:54I thought spit was the highest level.
13:56Leroy,
13:56you said,
13:57yeah,
13:58but,
13:58but I got to tell you,
13:59I've seen more fights start off with the old junk rub over the top.
14:06Like the guy walking over top and then celebrating over you.
14:10That,
14:10that seems to get,
14:11get it going too.
14:13I will say everybody in the trade rumors played really well yesterday.
14:16Everybody.
14:17There was,
14:18there was waddle rumors before the game.
14:19They were like,
14:20you know,
14:20the bills almost traded for him.
14:21And I was like,
14:22Oh dude,
14:23I couldn't have,
14:24I,
14:24if we would have gotten the news like bad enough that they would have traded jail on,
14:28but if they would have traded him to the bills,
14:30well,
14:30you can't be,
14:31can you honestly be picky at that point?
14:35I think they said,
14:36didn't I see a report yesterday that the,
14:38the Cowboys put a poison pill in the Micah Parsons trade.
14:43Maybe this was a fake trade.
14:44I don't know.
14:45They put some kind of a clause in the Micah Parsons trade that he can't be traded to the Eagles.
14:49And I was like,
14:51that's real.
14:51You could do that.
14:52That a,
14:53how about that?
14:55They're like,
14:55we're not going to get giants.
14:57I might be a little off on this,
14:59but it's pretty accurate.
15:02They,
15:02when Wes Welker was,
15:06he wasn't franchised.
15:07He was,
15:07what's the one underneath franchise?
15:09I don't know.
15:10Transition?
15:10Transition.
15:12And when the,
15:13the New England Patriots offered him a contract,
15:15they put a stipulation in the contract that if he played over a certain amount of games in Florida in one year,
15:25that he would get a big bonus.
15:27Oh.
15:27And so that's why one of the reasons why the Dolphins didn't match it.
15:31Yeah.
15:31This was,
15:32this was Schefter.
15:33Schefter tweeted out yesterday.
15:34Just double check.
15:35It's not Schnarfner.
15:38ESPN sources.
15:38Micah Parsons trade to the Packers included a poison pill that the Cowboys inserted to block a deal in the near future to the Eagles.
15:46So I'm assuming like,
15:48there's probably like the next three years.
15:49He can't be an Eagle or something like that.
15:51No,
15:52that's not,
15:52there's not.
15:53What if they do it?
15:54Listen,
15:55I don't know what the circuit,
15:56every,
15:56every,
15:56I don't know.
15:57Wait,
15:57three team trade.
15:58I don't have the details.
15:59I just read that tweet yesterday.
16:00We were on the air on game.
16:01Dan sensor.
16:02When I read that,
16:02I was like,
16:03Oh,
16:03that's a thing.
16:04I didn't know that was a thing.
16:04I think the Dolphins,
16:06the Dolph,
16:06it got,
16:07it happened to the Dolphins with Wes Welker.
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