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Antiques Roadshow - Season 48 Episode 16 -
Lister Park and Cartwright Hall 3
Lister Park and Cartwright Hall 3
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00:00Bradford, and our venue is Lister Park and the art gallery Cartwright Hall.
00:07Grand buildings like Cartwright Hall were built on the wealth of the textile industries in the 19th and 20th centuries,
00:14weaving materials like wool and silk, but also, later on, fabrics like this.
00:22Resilitex, it's called, and it had a crucial role in the Second World War.
00:26It was used to make decoy equipment, such as these inflatable tanks, in order to fool the enemy.
00:36And our experts will be hoping there are no fakes among the treasures on offer today.
00:41Exciting, isn't it? Every girl loves a tiara.
00:44One of the most bizarre things I've ever seen.
00:47Wow.
00:49I don't think we'll be getting rid of them, though.
00:54Welcome to the Antiques Roadshow.
00:56When I woke up this morning,
01:24I did not think I'd be greeted by these two beautiful ventriloquist dummies.
01:29Aren't they fantastic? Tell me everything.
01:32OK, so Dad was a musical ventriloquist, born in 1916.
01:38He made his first puppet when he was eight years old.
01:41And over the years, he's worked with so many famous names.
01:44Morecambe Wise, Norm Wisdom, Tommy Cooper, Ken Dodd.
01:48Wow. OK, so was your dad just the creator, or was he also a showman himself?
01:52He was a showman, he operated the puppets, but he made them at home,
01:57usually on our dining room table, in front of Mum, driving her crazy.
02:01And he'd form them in clay, he'd then put paper mache on them and bake them in the oven.
02:06In your oven that you had your dinner out of? Absolutely.
02:09Amazing. So did you have an old shed in the back garden that just had bits of pieces of coat hangers?
02:14Yeah, me carnal sets, coat hanger wire, knicker elastic. I think that was my mum's.
02:18Yeah. And one day I came home from school with a friend and there's this beautiful smell of baking
02:24and I said to my friend, oh, let's have a look in the oven and see what mum's doing.
02:28And we opened the oven and there was a head in there.
02:30Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
02:33The mechanics inside of these, and you think of modern day robots, humanoid robots that are being created now.
02:39She is automated and she would walk across the stage, stop, turn, lift a hanky to her eye to wipe a tear away
02:46and she'd end the act next to the old man with his arm around her to a song of old Dutch.
02:52And this was in the 40s and 50s, was it?
02:54He started just before the Second World War full time.
02:57Into the 50s, his first TV performance was 1952 and then he got a TV series with Roy Kinnear.
03:04It was huge at that time, in the mid-20th century. Ventriloquist dummies were huge, weren't they?
03:08Absolutely. Are these your favourites out of the collection?
03:10They are because, you know, the song, My Old Dutchess, is a very romantic song about an old couple who've been together for 40 years
03:16and it don't seem a day too long. So I can still hear that to this day and Dad's no longer with us, I'm afraid.
03:22So that song, when I see these two, is always on my mind.
03:25Amazing. And what do you think of them, though?
03:27Well, it's certainly a different edge to the family.
03:31You can say that.
03:33Well, I suppose I will have to put a value on them.
03:35Very difficult thing to value, but I think they were to come on the open market, I would expect.
03:40Three to five thousand, I would say.
03:43Yep.
03:43Dad would be so, so proud to be here today to see this from a pull and high.
03:49Amazing. Oh, you're making me emotional. That's lovely.
03:51Well, wonderful day here in Bradford, in the park.
04:04I used to come and play here when I was a child and go in the museum, so it's really lovely to be here
04:09and to be looking at a beautiful diamond necklace in a box that says Fattorini's.
04:15How have you come to get this?
04:17My paternal grandmother was given it on the occasion of her 21st birthday.
04:22I know nothing about it, but I think that it was because she was the eldest of nine.
04:28Oh, my goodness.
04:28And she did a lot to help with her younger siblings.
04:32Yes, well-deserved by the sounds of things.
04:34Absolutely.
04:35It really is, isn't it?
04:36And who are the people in the photographs?
04:38Well, I've got this one here.
04:40This is my grandmother.
04:42Uh-huh.
04:42She had no daughters, so it was given to my mother, who wore it on her wedding day.
04:48OK.
04:49And I wore it on my wedding day.
04:50Oh, how lovely.
04:51And my daughter wore it on her wedding day.
04:52Oh, how fabulous.
04:53So has it been worn outside of weddings, or is it just kept for wedding days?
04:57Oh, yes. I've bopped the night away in it.
04:59Oh, brilliant!
04:59That's fabulous, and that's the way it should be, jewellery's to be worn.
05:06So, Fattorini's, they were founded by Antonio Fattorini, who came over from Italy and settled in Leeds.
05:13They were fabulous jewellers and decided to open up in Harrogate, which isn't that far away.
05:17It was the fashionable town at the time.
05:20That was in the 1830s.
05:21In the 1850s, they decided to open a shop in Kirkgate in Bradford, which, of course, is how we get the connection with the box.
05:29Date-wise, we're looking at round about 1900.
05:34It's got these lovely scrolls and pretty little diamonds, which are sparkling away all the way around.
05:42And they're picking up on the delicate Edwardian style of jewellery, which is sometimes referred to as the garland style of jewellery.
05:50And a little bit of Art Nouveau movement to it as well, which is really absolutely wonderful.
05:56Are there clips either side?
05:58There are, that's right.
05:59And I didn't know if that was so that you could make it into a tiara.
06:03Well, you're absolutely spot on.
06:05Oh, right.
06:05Which is exciting, isn't it?
06:06Every girl loves a tiara.
06:09So, yes, we've got these little clips here just at the sides.
06:12And it would have just sat nice and elegantly on the top of the head, sparkled away as the sunshine shone through.
06:19So, really is lovely.
06:21And, of course, this was the period for tiaras with lace-fronted dresses in the early part of the 1900, the elegance of the Edwardian period.
06:29Have you got the fitting for the tiara anywhere?
06:33No.
06:33No, sadly, no.
06:36As a necklace at auction, this period is doing very well at the moment.
06:41And an auction estimate would be between £2,000 and £3,000.
06:45If we had had the tiara fitting, I probably would have been straight in there at £5,000 to £7,000.
06:53Wow.
06:53It makes such a difference to have that.
06:57I knew absolutely nothing about it.
06:59It's a shame I don't have the tiara fitting, but I love it anyway, and I shall continue to enjoy wearing it.
07:15So, I was immediately drawn to this watercolour of boats, because the artist has used such confident brushwork to bring out the masts of the ships, or the boats, the little sailing boats in the background.
07:34He's used watercolour on paper, and I can see that it's signed George Horton, who has spent a lot of his life in South Shields.
07:41Now, how did this come to be yours?
07:43Well, George Horton is a great, great uncle of mine, whom I never knew, and I discovered him through doing family history quite a while ago, and he turns out to be an artist.
07:55So, we looked him up and tried to find something.
07:58I bought it, and I didn't know where it was painted.
08:01I didn't know much about him, but a cousin of mine, who lives in Canada, came to see me, and he immediately recognised it as a Dutch boat, as though it's painted in Holland.
08:10I think, actually, George Horton's quite inspiring, because his family didn't really support him as an artist, and as the story goes, he taught himself how to paint by going to his local library and copying reproductions of the old masters.
08:26And it was only on his honeymoon, which was to Holland, that he became completely inspired by the tradition of Dutch landscape painting, and therefore became inspired to paint boats such as these.
08:37From a distance, from a distance, this looks like quite a rainy day.
08:41He's used a palette of browns and greys to describe the background.
08:46The water is a bit sludgy.
08:48It's not sunny.
08:49There's no beautiful reflection.
08:52But then, to make it more dynamic, he's bringing out the colour.
08:57And I think that could be some sails that are wrapped up.
09:00It could be cargo.
09:01But, most importantly, it really draws you in.
09:04I love it.
09:05And it's also quite bold for the time period that he was painting in.
09:08I mean, he was painting in the early 20th century.
09:10Yes.
09:10At a time where this kind of impressionistic style had only really quite recently come to Britain.
09:17Yes, yes.
09:17What do you like about it?
09:19Oh, well, I love it, first of all, because I know he was a relative of mine, which is brilliant.
09:23And, like you say, that colour just pulls you into the centre of it, doesn't it?
09:27And it just lightens everything.
09:29And is the rest of your family artistic?
09:31No, not at all.
09:33Certainly not me.
09:34So, the Horton jeans.
09:36Yes.
09:36No, they haven't come through to me, sorry.
09:39No, no.
09:40Well, it's the sort of thing that, were it to come to auction today, I would probably put an estimate in the region of £400 to £600.
09:46Right, yes.
09:48The money pride isn't important.
09:50It's just that I've got a painting that belonged to a relative of mine, which is absolutely wonderful.
09:54Let's find the next Horton in the family.
09:57It won't be me.
09:58Who might be a good artist.
09:59Sorry, it won't be me.
10:07Well, I think everybody knows who these four are.
10:10It's a great, great photograph of them, and with all these lovely signatures below.
10:15How did you come by it?
10:16So, this came to me via my dad, via his brother, who got it via George Harrison's dad.
10:22Oh, really?
10:24In a pub drinking in Skipton.
10:27But my dad's brother didn't like the Beatles, like Cliff Richard.
10:32But my dad's brother did say, well, look, my brother absolutely adores the Beatles, so.
10:40And then a few years ago, my dad said, you can have it now, because you're the biggest Beatles fan.
10:44And when the children were younger, they always used to ask, who is it in the picture?
10:48So, we'd say, it's something called John Paul George and Ringo in the picture.
10:50I think you would say, well, we're good, yeah, we're good.
10:56Fantastic.
10:56So, well, I think it's a great photograph, and the story gives it provenance as well.
11:01But you have to remember that there are a lot of these photographs with facsimile, you know, signatures, and they're out there everywhere, you know.
11:10So, but this particular one is a genuine one.
11:14These are genuine signatures.
11:18That means that this, if it went into auction, and I'm going to be very conservative, this is worth between £3,000 and £5,000.
11:27Wow.
11:29Wow.
11:29That's amazing.
11:30This is a very interesting cow horn.
11:53What do you think it was for?
11:55Well, blowing, making a tuna, of course.
11:57No, it's for holding gunpowder.
11:59Oh, my gunpowder.
12:01It's a powder horn.
12:02We didn't know that, did we?
12:03Where did you get it?
12:05Well, it was my grandfather's, and then when he passed away, it went down to my father, and now he passed away a few years ago.
12:14I'm sorry.
12:14So, it's now mine.
12:16So, you've known it all your childhood?
12:18I've, I've, I remember it at my grandparents' house.
12:21You do?
12:21Yes.
12:22When I first saw it, I thought it was North American.
12:25Yes.
12:25Settlers.
12:26We did, we wondered about it.
12:28Is that what you think it is?
12:29Yeah, yeah.
12:29And then I got confused with the design here.
12:32This is very geometric and not American at all.
12:35Yeah.
12:35And it reminds me of the work of a designer called Bugatti, which it isn't.
12:40I mean, it almost makes me wonder where he got his ideas.
12:43I mean, he might have seen something like this.
12:44Yeah.
12:45And then I looked at this more closely.
12:47This is cow horn, and these are cows, or they're steer.
12:50Yes.
12:52And then there's, what look like haystacks on it.
12:54Well, I look at it closely.
12:55And the haystacks aren't haystacks round here.
13:00No.
13:01So?
13:01They're Zulu dwellings.
13:04Oh.
13:05Of course.
13:07We did.
13:07Yes.
13:08So this is South African design.
13:10Yes.
13:11I lived in Cape Town for 20 years and came back five years ago.
13:15So how bizarre that we've got something in the family that.
13:18Exactly.
13:19And that's what it is.
13:20And 19th century.
13:22It's the end of the 19th century, I think.
13:25The Zulu were herders by nature.
13:28Cows are their wealth.
13:30But these are Westerners herding the cattle.
13:34Yeah.
13:34Not Noughts, the indigenous people.
13:37But it really is a real pictorial dream.
13:41Mum really loved it.
13:43And she had a relative who was quite involved with antiques.
13:48And he often said, oh, if you don't want it, I'd like it.
13:51I bet he would.
13:51I would too.
13:53But she wouldn't part with it, obviously.
13:55People collect them.
13:56And I think they would pay something like between 800 and 1,200 pounds for this.
14:04Wow.
14:05That's what I think.
14:07It's charming.
14:14We are beginning to lose the soldiers and sailors and airmen and nurses who were actually there during the Second World War.
14:22So, every time I come across a person who was there at the time, the story always fascinates me.
14:30So, who was this man?
14:31This is Sergeant Eric Light.
14:33He's my grandad and my Auntie Andrew's father.
14:37And he, in 1940, was called up and joined the East Yorkshire Regiment and served for six years away from Bradford in North Africa and Italy as a fireman.
14:47He returned on two home leaves, the first one to see my dad being born and the second, where he wrote in his diary that he was visiting Cartwright Hall and Lister Park.
14:59Where we are.
15:00Where we are today, yeah.
15:01Can you read that for us?
15:02I can, yeah.
15:02So, this is Sunday, the 11th of November, 1945.
15:07He writes, spent the afternoon at Cartwright Hall and Lister Park and the next day he left from Bradford train station on the journey back to Naples.
15:16You know, by his medals, I can tell that what you're saying is what he did.
15:20We have a 1939-45 defence medal.
15:24He has an Africa star with the first army bar, which means that he was part of the invasion of Africa from the western side going towards Tunisia.
15:35Then he moves to Italy, as you say.
15:38The 1939-45 star and the 1939-45 war medal.
15:44Did he talk about this stuff?
15:46Do you know?
15:46He loved Italy.
15:48He loved the language.
15:49He learned Italian, so he spoke about his time in Italy.
15:52He didn't particularly talk about the events or the fires that he dealt with, but he was a wordsmith.
15:58He enjoyed telling stories.
16:00He's a good artist as well, isn't he?
16:01He was an artist from the beginning and he documented quite a lot of his journeys, but this is where he was billeted for two years.
16:09This is Jean d'Arc in North Africa, a tent with his uniform there and his bed.
16:15We're still all the family.
16:17They have artwork around the house that is done.
16:20It is these archives, which are so important, to tell the story of just ordinary people, just like me and you.
16:27Yeah.
16:28But they stood up when the time came.
16:31Yeah.
16:32They went and did it.
16:33Yeah.
16:33It's been a real honour to meet him today.
16:35Yeah.
16:35I know you've got lots more stuff and for your whole collection, you're looking at somewhere in around about £500.
16:41Okay.
16:42Thank you so much for bringing it along.
16:43It's a privilege for us to talk about him.
18:31Two and a half million people came, putting Cartwright Hall well and truly on the map.
18:50Well, this bird has come and landed on our table.
18:53Tell us, what do you think it is?
18:55Honestly, I've got no idea and how it stood off my life farther.
19:00My dad was a bit of a collector slash hoarder, probably more than a hoarder.
19:04He used to do carbure sales a lot and that sort of thing.
19:07Did you have a name for it at home?
19:09I've called it Lydia.
19:11Lydia?
19:11Yeah, because it's got a lid on it, so it's just Lydia lid.
19:15It's just, it clicked that way.
19:17Lydia bird.
19:18Yeah.
19:19Wonderful.
19:20Well, it's an incense burner, hence we have the lid on the top
19:24and also the wings you'll see are pierced and engraved,
19:27so that's to allow the fragrance to waft out.
19:31Now, it comes from a northeastern area of modern-day Iran, so Persia, called Kurasan,
19:38and it was a metalworking area specialising in intricate work just like this.
19:43So this decoration on the bird, it's all hand-engraved, beautifully worked.
19:48And birds occupy quite a preeminent position in Islamic decoration.
19:54It symbolises the freedom of the spirit, and they're also looked on as good luck or good fortune pieces,
20:00so hopefully that might be true today.
20:02Yeah, yeah.
20:03This is copying a style from much earlier.
20:07There are similar birds to your birds in the Metropolitan Museum in New York,
20:12in the Louvre in Paris.
20:14Wow.
20:15But they are much earlier ones.
20:17They are from the 12th, 13th century.
20:19Yeah.
20:19Your one, I think, dates from late 19th stroke early 20th century,
20:24so it's more a kind of touristy piece.
20:26Yeah.
20:26So what's it worth?
20:27We don't know what was paid for it.
20:29No idea.
20:29It's hopefully brought you some good fortune.
20:31Yeah.
20:32And if this turned up on the market today,
20:35you'd be looking at between £600 and £1,000.
20:39Wow.
20:41Really?
20:42You're joking?
20:43No, I'm much more.
20:48I'm pleased with Dad.
20:49To be honest, I wasn't expecting it to be worth anything.
20:52I just thought, you know, it's a big metal bird,
20:54and, you know, it's quite pretty, you know.
20:56It won't be going anywhere.
20:57It's going to stay with me and the family for a bit.
20:59But, yeah, I don't think I'm certainly not ready to part with it anyway, so.
21:11So I'm looking at a small doll under this dome,
21:14but what interests me is this tray of wonderful objects
21:20that she's holding and showing to the viewer.
21:23Did you buy her?
21:24No, she was left to be by my great-aunt.
21:27It was made by her grandmother.
21:30That puts us back into the 19th century.
21:32The 1890s, I think.
21:34I would put her.
21:34So she's been a family companion, really?
21:36Yes, yes, I've known her all my life.
21:39And presumably...
21:40Yes.
21:40..you have too?
21:41Yes, yes.
21:42She's always been outside my bedroom.
21:44And if my parents went out, I would sneakily lift off the dome and touch.
21:49Sorry.
21:51Touch.
21:51The scissors were my favourite.
21:52So let's talk about peddler dolls generally.
21:57I mean, in the 18th and 19th centuries, shops were a long way away
22:01and you would have travelling salesmen, often ladies,
22:05who had a big array of those things that made a lady's life at home
22:11just a bit more enjoyable.
22:14Yeah.
22:14And so when you look into this tray, you've got pins and needles and buttons.
22:20There's a tennis racket.
22:21There are skittles.
22:23There's a little doll.
22:24There are scissors.
22:25Your favourite, you said.
22:26You may have borrowed them, but you put them back again.
22:28Oh, yes.
22:29The older peddler dolls, often their heads were made from apples, dried apples.
22:38And so you get this very kind of wizened-looking face.
22:43But she's got a wax head, it looks like,
22:45and she looks as if she's got human hair on there, not mohair.
22:49The doll market really has had massive peaks and then a bit of a slide.
22:55So I'm happy to put a valuation on it of between £1,000 and £1,200,
23:01which I think is right for now.
23:03But who knows, in the fullness of time,
23:05we could see another peak developing.
23:08But fabulous object.
23:09Great to hear that it's a family thing.
23:11Good.
23:12And thank you for bringing it in.
23:13Little girl to my daughter and granddaughter.
23:15Lucky you.
23:16Maybe great-granddaughter one day.
23:18No pressure.
23:25Our ceramics expert Stephen Moore has discovered an item linked to the Black Dyke Band,
23:32Yorkshire's celebrated Brass Ensemble, established in 1855.
23:38With an impressive 170-year legacy,
23:41the band is playing a leading role in Bradford's 2025 City of Culture celebrations.
23:46And it all started in the hills around the city.
23:50If we were to head out of Bradford towards Halifax, up the hill,
23:58we would end up at Queensbury, wouldn't we?
24:00Yes.
24:00And what would we find there?
24:02Queensbury and the Black Dyke Mills.
24:04And you worked at the Black Dyke Mills?
24:06I did, from 1958 to 1993.
24:09What did they make at the mill?
24:11Mohair cloth for the Japanese businessman.
24:14OK.
24:14£4,000 of suits.
24:16Quite high-end stuff, yes.
24:17And were you a member of the famous band?
24:20I was, from 58 to 73.
24:22Hence the Skelector of Black Dyke Mills memorabilia.
24:24So tell me how it came to your possession.
24:26The gentleman, Phineas Bower there, was the original owner of the jug.
24:31Right.
24:32He then passed it on to his son, Fred,
24:34who then passed it on to his daughter, Gladys Bower.
24:37Right.
24:37But she had no family, and I was an apprentice at the mill at the time.
24:41And the lady there, she asked,
24:43would somebody like the jug and the medal?
24:46Right.
24:46And I said, yes, please.
24:48I mean, this joke records that between 1856 and 1882,
24:53the band won £2,011, nine shillings and nothing.
24:59Yeah.
24:59That's a lot of money then, isn't it?
25:01I mean, that's it.
25:01And then this is the same.
25:03This is a record history of the band.
25:06Yes.
25:06And the band won thousands.
25:07I mean, all these on here.
25:09Oh, yes.
25:10This one, they got seven guineas for being disqualified.
25:12Yeah.
25:13That was a good gig, wasn't it?
25:14But I mean, we have to put that in the context of the period.
25:18I mean, this joke dates to the 1880s.
25:22That was a huge amount of money.
25:24What happened to the band prize money?
25:26It was divided amongst the band members.
25:28You see, it was worthwhile being in the band.
25:30It was because I earned £3, two and six a week.
25:33And we did two concerts on Saturday and Sunday.
25:37And the week after, I got £3 in my hand.
25:39So, like, two weeks wages for about 30 weeks each year.
25:44Well, there we are.
25:45Well, I think this little collection,
25:47a little booklet on the history of the band and the jug,
25:50this is nine-carat gold.
25:51Let's not deny that.
25:53We're looking at between £8 and £1,200.
25:56You didn't think it was that much.
25:58The medal alone is £500.
26:00Wow.
26:01Keep it safe.
26:10The wonderful Liberty table, turn of the century.
26:14And it's just superb.
26:17And what's beautiful about this is all the hand-carved detail on there
26:20is just wonderful.
26:21Super stylish and super usable as well.
26:24Was this table in the family?
26:26It was my grandma's.
26:27And I've got no idea where it came from.
26:30I can't imagine that she could afford to go to Liberty's
26:33and buy it, to be quite honest.
26:34But she used to go to a lot of auctions.
26:36I always loved it as a little child.
26:38I'm growing up everything.
26:39And then when we lost her,
26:41that was the one thing that I wanted from her house.
26:44Good choice.
26:45It's a lovely table.
26:46Very in vogue.
26:48Easily £300 to £500.
26:49Oh, this.
26:50It really is.
26:51It's a lovely table.
26:54Here we have a little...
26:59I think I know what that is.
27:01A very beautiful, little singing bird music box.
27:05Ah, I can see that the lid needs a little bit of tweaking
27:12because it doesn't quite pop back down,
27:15but that's something that can be remedied.
27:16Tell me what you know about it.
27:18I know the manufacturer is Swiss, I think.
27:20Yes.
27:21Because I looked them up on the bottom.
27:22It says,
27:22Sainte Croix, made in Switzerland.
27:25Now, they are a very old traditional music box maker.
27:29This one was probably made in the 1960s.
27:32Oh, OK.
27:32It's made in exactly the same tradition
27:35as those early antique boxes.
27:37Right.
27:38But it's faux tortoiseshell finish on it.
27:40It's not real tortoiseshell.
27:42It's a nice thing.
27:43Do you really like this?
27:44Yeah, I really like it.
27:45Watching it dance and, like, sing.
27:48Yeah, it's quite mesmerizing, isn't it?
27:50Yeah.
27:51Yeah.
27:51Where did you buy it?
27:52My antique steelo.
27:53Right, OK.
27:53Because it was kind of,
27:54we thought it was a bit interesting.
27:56Do you mind me asking what you paid for it?
27:57I can't remember.
27:58What did you pay for it?
27:59I think it was 1,500 pounds.
28:011,500 pounds?
28:01I think that was kind of about the money,
28:03to be honest with you.
28:04Yeah.
28:18A nice lady's gold fob watch.
28:23Who did it belong to?
28:25It belonged to my grandmother, Isabella.
28:27OK.
28:28And do you ever recall her wearing it?
28:31Well, I was only four at the time when she died,
28:34so no, I'm afraid not.
28:37OK, well, let's have a look.
28:39It's one of these English watches
28:40that you just have a little nib there
28:43in the six o'clock position.
28:44You push that in,
28:45and then you withdraw the movement, OK?
28:47And there it is.
28:50It's signed Dent.
28:51Yeah.
28:52Watchmaker to the Queen.
28:53Now, of course, that was Queen Victoria.
28:55Yes.
28:56A good maker.
28:59You've got a full set of London hallmarks
29:01for 1871.
29:04OK.
29:06I'm delighted to see this long chain.
29:10And, of course, it would have been worn
29:11on a long chain around her neck,
29:13popped into a pocket somewhere.
29:15Hallmark 9 carat.
29:19So many of these were cut into small places
29:22to make bracelets or necklaces.
29:25So to see an original long chain
29:27is really rather nice.
29:28It would have been even better
29:29if it had been 18 carat gold, of course,
29:31but it's still very nice.
29:33Has anybody wear it anymore or not?
29:35No, sadly not.
29:37It's been in a draw for years.
29:39So, money.
29:41Yes.
29:42The watch, 18 carat gold by Dent,
29:45in pretty good condition,
29:48£800, £900 for the watch.
29:51And the chain, because it's original
29:53and because it's long
29:54and it hasn't been cut down at all,
29:56a similar price on the chain as well.
29:58Christmas me.
29:59Christmas me.
30:00Don't leave it in the drawer.
30:01Get somebody to wear it.
30:02Don't you think?
30:03It will.
30:04It will.
30:04My daughter, perhaps.
30:06She'll probably sell it.
30:07She'll never know.
30:07She'd better not.
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30:33So, this was designed by Louisa Pestle,
30:40who was a Bradfordian woman,
30:42born in 1870 and a bit of a pioneer.
30:44She trained at the National Art Training School
30:46in London under Lewis Forman Day.
30:48Obviously, a very well-known arts and crafts designer.
30:51That's right, yeah.
30:51And she then went to Greece
30:53to be a designer at the Royal Hellenic School
30:55of Needlework and Lace.
30:57She travelled all over Egypt, India.
30:59She made notes of all the textile designs,
31:02the motifs, the patterns.
31:04So, she was one of those group
31:06of sort of pioneering Victorian ladies.
31:08That really was something.
31:10There would have been very few women
31:11that were in a position
31:12to be able to have done that.
31:13There's a great photo of her
31:15on the Khyber Pass,
31:16on the back of a camel,
31:17in full Edwardian gear
31:19with a hat and everything,
31:20and she just looks amazing.
31:22I mean, we can only imagine
31:22what that would be like
31:23and it's corseted as well.
31:25Yeah.
31:25When she came back to Bradford
31:26and the First World War was on,
31:28she did a lot of work
31:29with the Abraham Peel Hospital,
31:31which was a hospital
31:32for shell-shocked soldiers.
31:34She worked with them
31:36as a form of occupational therapy, really,
31:38in doing embroidery work
31:40and other things,
31:41and they worked on this,
31:43the shell-shocked soldiers,
31:43to her design.
31:45So, this idea of, you know,
31:46occupational therapy,
31:48the hand and the mind being occupied,
31:50that it was really, really good for them.
31:51Yeah.
31:51The repetitive nature of it
31:53is very kind of soothing, really,
31:55for people suffering from, you know,
31:56post-traumatic stress.
31:58It's very interesting
31:59that she went to the Royal Hellenistic School
32:01of Needlework in Greece
32:02because I think we can see
32:04that influence here,
32:05definitely, in the stitch work
32:07and because we've got
32:08this sort of meandering design
32:09and then these sort of,
32:10these little flower heads
32:12and this is all worked in cross-stitch.
32:14If you look at the stitches,
32:15they don't really appear
32:17to have been done
32:17by different people,
32:18so perhaps she was a very exact
32:20instead of mistress.
32:21I imagine she was
32:22because she was an expert
32:24in her field.
32:24It's an absolute pleasure to see it.
32:27We need to mention price.
32:29Generally speaking,
32:29you can buy auto frontals
32:31from this sort of period
32:32when they do come up at auction.
32:34It would probably only be
32:34something like £300 to £400
32:36but obviously its home is Bradford
32:38and it's still in Bradford
32:39and that's where it's going to remain.
32:41I mean, to us it's priceless,
32:42so thank you very much.
32:43Exactly.
32:44You've brought me here
32:55a brooch
32:55and a ring.
32:58I'm going to start
32:59with the brooch first
33:00and it's lovely to see
33:02the three-leaf clover design here.
33:04How did you find this?
33:05It belonged to my grandmother.
33:08My father gave it to me
33:09about 15 years ago
33:10because I kept wearing it.
33:12He said rather than storing it
33:13all the time,
33:14he gave it to me.
33:15But you were borrowing it.
33:16You were allowed to wear it on...
33:18Yeah, high days and holidays.
33:19High days and holidays.
33:20That's quite a substantial jewel.
33:23It is.
33:23My granny was very, very proud of it
33:26and was also worried
33:27about losing it
33:28so she carried it in her handbag
33:30every single day of her life.
33:32Really?
33:33Yes.
33:34On the bus?
33:35No.
33:35When she went shopping?
33:37Everywhere.
33:39Oh my goodness.
33:41Yeah.
33:41Well, this is dated
33:42about 1880.
33:45Right.
33:45And it is silver and gold
33:48but there's no maker's mark
33:49and that's quite usual
33:51for jewels of this period
33:54but it looks English to me.
33:57All set with cushion-shaped diamonds
33:59and rose-cut diamonds
34:01and then you also have this ring
34:04and tell me the story
34:06about this ring.
34:07The family legend is
34:09that my great-grandfather
34:11accepted it in settlement
34:12of a gambling debt in Monte Carlo.
34:15In Monte Carlo?
34:16Yes.
34:16Oh my gosh.
34:18I wonder how much the debt was.
34:20It'd be interesting, wouldn't it?
34:21It would.
34:22It'd be lovely to know
34:23but unfortunately
34:24he spent the family fortune.
34:27Oh, did he?
34:28And by the time
34:29my grandfather came back
34:31from the First World War
34:32my great-grandfather passed away
34:34and there was no money left
34:36apart from the ring.
34:38Well, it's 18-carat gold
34:40and these are cushion-shaped diamonds.
34:43Again, the diamonds
34:43are cut in about 1880.
34:45Right.
34:46And I think they're set
34:47in a slightly late amount.
34:50So, I mean, at auction
34:52you'd be looking
34:53at about £3,000
34:54and for this one here
34:57you'd be looking
34:58in the region
34:59of about £1,500 to £2,000.
35:01Right.
35:03So what will happen to it now?
35:04I'll continue to wear them
35:06and enjoy them.
35:07Oh, that's wonderful.
35:18At a previous roadshow
35:20in Yorkshire in 2021
35:21we revealed
35:22the Bellevue Studio Archive
35:25a collection of 17,000 portraits
35:27taken by photographer
35:28Tony Walker
35:29between the 1950s
35:31and the 1970s.
35:34Housed in Bradford
35:38the archive
35:39is a fascinating record
35:40of the migrant communities
35:41who made the city
35:42their home
35:43after the Second World War
35:44and now available online.
35:47It's become a valuable resource
35:49for families
35:49to search for long-lost images
35:51of their relatives.
35:52I'm sitting here
35:56with people
35:57who found relatives
35:58in the Bellevue Archive
36:00and Cynthia
36:01you're here with your mum
36:02Olive
36:02who I hope you don't mind
36:03saying you're 103
36:05grand old age
36:07and you were looking
36:08in the archive
36:09for pictures of yourself
36:10I think.
36:10That's right
36:11I thought
36:11you know
36:12I'll have to look
36:13in the archives
36:14and see if they think
36:15of me as a baby
36:16and then found mum
36:18and there she is.
36:21What did you think
36:21when you saw that?
36:22It took me back
36:23because
36:24I remember that jacket
36:25she was wearing
36:26it was an olive green jacket
36:28three quarter-lose sleeves
36:29and it just took me back
36:31to being
36:31six to seven years old.
36:33Oh.
36:34And what about you
36:35Olive?
36:35Do you remember
36:36this picture being taken?
36:37Yes.
36:38And you look
36:39beautiful in this picture.
36:41What did you do
36:42when you were here
36:42when you first came over?
36:44The first time
36:44I come here
36:45I used to work
36:47at a school.
36:48To work at a school?
36:49School, yeah.
36:50They were very nice.
36:51Were they?
36:52People with me
36:53you know.
36:54Very blackness
36:55so I
36:56sit to them
36:57until I get to come
36:58back to Balfour.
36:59Yeah.
37:00What a wonderful thing
37:01to come across it.
37:02So unexpectedly.
37:03Yeah.
37:04So you've got this one picture
37:05whereas you Hamza
37:06Yep.
37:08So you've found
37:09all sorts of members
37:09of your family.
37:10I've found
37:10yep from my mum's side
37:12as well as my dad's side.
37:15Who have we got here?
37:16Who's this one?
37:17That's my father
37:18and that's his two brothers
37:21that's his brother-in-law
37:23and these are uncles
37:25and just general
37:27relatives
37:27family.
37:29When you started
37:30looking Hamza
37:31did you have any idea
37:31you would find
37:32such a treasure trove?
37:34No.
37:34So I only discovered
37:35that picture
37:36first of all
37:37of my uncle
37:38and then
37:39the more I went
37:41into it
37:41I discovered
37:43two or three
37:44more pictures
37:45and then
37:45after a week
37:47or two
37:47I found another
37:48five pictures
37:49and then
37:50before I knew it
37:51I'd had 50
37:52plus pictures
37:53of my close relatives.
37:55So boys
37:56this is your
37:57grandad.
37:58Grandad.
37:58I think he looks
38:00very handsome
38:00don't you?
38:01Yeah.
38:01Yeah.
38:01Yeah.
38:02Absolutely.
38:03So what did you think
38:05when you saw your dad?
38:06Well I hadn't seen
38:08a picture of him
38:09like that
38:10yeah
38:11but I was
38:11emotional
38:12yeah
38:13seeing him
38:14so young
38:14like that.
38:16He came over
38:17in 1961
38:18he was a second year
38:19medical student
38:20he didn't want to come
38:21but grandma said
38:23go on
38:23go see what it's like
38:25so he came over
38:26his mum
38:28gave him
38:29half a dozen
38:30boiled eggs
38:31to come over with
38:32and a fiver
38:33in his pocket.
38:34And did he then
38:35pursue a medical career?
38:36No
38:36no he didn't
38:37he worked in textiles
38:39then after that.
38:40So many did
38:40in this part of the world.
38:42Because
38:42the Asian community
38:44came over
38:45to
38:46do the labour jobs.
38:48Well it's
38:48fascinating
38:49to meet you
38:50and hear your stories
38:51and see these pictures
38:52and if you're
38:53watching at home
38:53and think
38:54I mean who knows
38:55maybe your family
38:55is in the Bellevue archive
38:56have a look
38:57there's clearly
38:57thousands of pictures
38:58to go through
38:59from what Hamza says
39:00but you never know
39:01what you'll find.
39:11So on this beautiful
39:12sunny day at Lister Park
39:14when the gardens
39:15are in full bloom
39:16and the flowers
39:16are all out
39:17you've brought along
39:18this beautifully
39:19florally painted tea set.
39:20are you a collector?
39:22No not at all.
39:24This was my mother's.
39:26She was very poorly
39:27as a small child.
39:29She was confined
39:30to bed for months.
39:32She had yellow jaundice
39:33I think
39:33and her father
39:35my grandfather
39:36bought her this
39:37to cheer her up.
39:38I can think of nothing
39:39that would cheer me up
39:40more if I was poorly
39:41than getting a cup of tea
39:42and my breakfast
39:43served to me
39:44from a service like this
39:45with toast
39:46from this little toast rack
39:47and even this wonderful
39:49warming dish
39:50so that your breakfast
39:51comes to the table warm
39:52and you just remove
39:54this stopper
39:55fill the base of the dish
39:56with hot water
39:57and it keeps the breakfast
39:59toasty and warm.
40:00Yep.
40:01The service
40:01is by Clarice Cliff
40:03an iconic designer
40:05in Britain
40:06in the 1920s
40:07and the 30s
40:08and the shape
40:09of this teapot
40:10is known as
40:11the bonjour shape
40:12with this round design
40:13and the very distinctive
40:14round finial handle
40:15even on the little
40:17circular feet.
40:18These pieces
40:19are a bit later
40:20in Clarice Cliff's
40:21design career.
40:22Her heyday
40:23was really
40:24the late 1920s
40:25to the mid 1930s.
40:27I would think
40:28these are sort of
40:28late 1930s in date
40:30and you can see
40:31the slight change
40:32in style
40:33where she's used
40:34this more sort of
40:35floral feminine decoration
40:37rather than the bold
40:38iconic art deco designs
40:40with very strong colours.
40:42I'm sure it's something
40:42you would never want to sell
40:44but of course
40:45it does have a value.
40:47My thoughts
40:48are that being
40:48a slightly later
40:49Clarice Cliff design
40:51slightly removed
40:52from the more
40:53iconic art deco period
40:54I think it's worth
40:56in the region
40:56of £200 to £300
40:57for this group.
40:59Well thank you very much
41:00that's absolutely lovely
41:01I won't be selling it
41:02and hopefully
41:03it can go on
41:04to generations
41:04you know
41:05still to come.
41:16We've got
41:16Mae West's name
41:18spelt out
41:19in her own hair.
41:21Where on earth
41:22did this come from?
41:24We're not 100% sure
41:25of its original provenance.
41:27It was a gift
41:28to the family
41:29on my dad's side
41:30a wedding gift
41:31and it's just been
41:33sat in my dad's
41:34downstairs toilet
41:34for about 10 years.
41:37I think it's a talking
41:38point for parties
41:39that sort of thing.
41:40It is that
41:41I mean she's one of
41:42the legends of film.
41:44I mean in the 1930s
41:46she was
41:47the big box office drawer
41:49and obviously she's done
41:51an official opening
41:52we have the Rishi Salons
41:55for hair and beauty culture
41:56were officially opened
41:57by
41:57Mae West
41:59and I mean
42:00I don't know much
42:01about women's hair
42:02I'll be honest
42:02but it almost looks like
42:04little sort of extensions
42:05they're beautifully tied
42:07but underneath
42:09and I think this is the name
42:11of the hairdresser
42:12but we can't make it out
42:14most lovely beauty salon
42:17every success
42:18something something
42:20Mae West
42:21and that almost
42:22definitely is her signature.
42:24Brilliant.
42:25Yeah.
42:26March the 11th
42:281948
42:29she was
42:30ahead of her times
42:31you know
42:31she said
42:32what she thought
42:33and some of the things
42:35were quite risque
42:36she's famous
42:37for the line
42:38is that a pistol
42:39in your pocket
42:40or are you just
42:42pleased to see me
42:43she said
42:45censorship
42:45I like censorship
42:47I've made a fortune
42:48from it
42:49we've got to
42:50put a value
42:51on this
42:52unique
42:52yeah unique thing
42:54I mean
42:56her signature alone
42:57is fairly sought
42:58after
42:59I think if it went
43:00in an auction
43:01it would do
43:02probably a thousand
43:03to fifteen hundred pounds
43:04I think it'll hang around
43:07in the family though
43:07you know
43:08yeah it's
43:09so strange
43:10one of the most
43:11bizarre things
43:12I've ever seen
43:12don't forget
43:16you mustn't
43:16simmers me time
43:17I've been waiting
43:26for one of these
43:26to come in
43:27for a long time
43:27good
43:28okay
43:29so where did you
43:29get it from
43:30to my parents
43:32house
43:32for as long
43:33as I can
43:33remember
43:34okay
43:35it's a cinema ticket
43:36for a film called
43:37theirs is the glory
43:38yeah
43:38for the premiere
43:39yeah
43:39it was made in 1946
43:41it premiered
43:42on the 17th of September
43:441946
43:44yeah
43:45which is exactly
43:46two years
43:47after the first day
43:48that they dropped
43:49by parachute
43:50and glider
43:51into a place
43:52called
43:53Arnhem
43:53yeah
43:54now we would know
43:55it as a bridge
43:56too far
43:56but the original
43:57film
43:57was theirs
43:58is the glory
43:58yeah
43:59and these
43:59were the original
44:00cinema tickets
44:01for the premiere
44:02yeah
44:02and they're amazing
44:03because
44:04it says
44:05this souvenir ticket
44:07is made of metal
44:08from one of the
44:09crash gliders
44:09which carried
44:10the British
44:10first airborne
44:11division
44:11into battle
44:13at Arnhem
44:13on September
44:14the 17th
44:151944
44:16that has to be
44:18the very best
44:19cinema ticket
44:19in the world
44:20do you know
44:22what it's worth
44:22I haven't got a clue
44:24it's 150 quid
44:25150 quid's worth
44:26for a bit of aluminium
44:28it's a very special
44:29piece of aluminium
44:30though
44:30this is a lovely
44:41silver and enamel
44:42case
44:42and it looks
44:43quite classy
44:44doesn't it
44:44it looks something
44:45quite special
44:45tell us about the dog
44:48when we bought it
44:49you couldn't see
44:50all the detail on it
44:51as in it was
44:52really tarnished
44:53you mean
44:53yeah
44:54it was black
44:55so
44:56Mulespin cleaned it up
44:58and then it revealed
44:59what were on it
45:00it's a French bulldog
45:01it's got pointed ears
45:02that is gorgeous
45:02isn't it
45:03it's a little
45:04cigarette case
45:05so that's what
45:06the elasticated band
45:07is for
45:07now I know
45:08it doesn't look like
45:09you could fit cigarettes
45:10in there
45:10but that's what
45:11cigarettes were like
45:12when this was made
45:13which was about
45:141910
45:15now did you notice
45:17also on
45:18the side here
45:19that is a
45:20sapphire
45:21push thumb piece
45:23oh no I didn't know
45:24yeah so that is quality
45:25it's superb detail
45:27the way that
45:27that's all painted
45:28it's enamel painted
45:29all hand done
45:30it's either
45:31Austrian or German
45:32probably
45:32right
45:33now you're gonna have to tell us
45:35what you paid for it
45:37it was £4
45:38you've done very well
45:39that now is
45:41£400 to £600
45:43lovely
45:44beautiful thing
45:47I think this is the most wonderful
46:03enigmatic
46:04beautiful photographic image
46:06can you tell me a little bit
46:07about it please
46:08it's a snapshot
46:09that was taken by my grandfather
46:11in 1931
46:12he entered a worldwide competition
46:14run by Eastman Kodak
46:17to find the world's best snapshot
46:18using the first introduction
46:20of the Velochrome film
46:22this is my granny here
46:24they were engaged
46:26and went on holiday
46:26to Brad Ahead
46:27on the Isle of Man
46:28he entered it
46:30in the competition
46:31and it won
46:32the final was in Geneva
46:34and Eastman Kodak
46:35was a really famous company
46:37a big company
46:37at the time
46:38founded by George Eastman
46:39in 1888
46:40he made photography available
46:43to the masses
46:44these vest pocket
46:46in inverted commas
46:48folding bellows cameras
46:49made it affordable
46:50and they made it portable
46:52and your great grandfather
46:54was obviously
46:54one of those people
46:56there he is
46:57takes your grandmother out
46:58indeed
46:58takes this wonderful photograph
47:00of her
47:00enters this competition
47:02and won it
47:04he won the amazing amount
47:05of £4,400
47:07it equates to £235,000
47:10they got married
47:11and he bought his first house
47:13their first house with that
47:14and the family
47:15were very very excited
47:16well it would have been
47:17huge excitement all over
47:18because he would have been
47:19pretty famous in fact
47:20because that would have been
47:21obviously published
47:22in you know
47:23the Eastman Kodak magazine
47:25that's right
47:25which was a massive
47:27worldwide seller
47:27of a magazine as well
47:29on the table here
47:30we have this beautiful
47:32silver trophy
47:33which of course
47:34is representative
47:35of photography
47:36by the lens
47:37in the top here
47:39that is stunningly beautiful
47:41but I'm going to have to
47:43kind of try
47:43and put a value on this
47:44and it's a bit of
47:45an odd one really
47:46I'm kind of minded
47:47to give it a global valuation
47:49but then individually
47:50looking at some of the pieces
47:51it's a kind of different
47:52thing in my head
47:54so to speak
47:54so this beautiful
47:55Art Deco trophy
47:57is wonderful
47:58and it's worth
47:59£2,000 or £3,000
48:00which is pretty amazing
48:03the camera
48:04to be honest with you
48:05if that were completely
48:06disconnected from this story
48:08and were just a Kodak
48:09pocket vest camera
48:10it's worth £50 to £100
48:12right
48:13because they made
48:14so many of them
48:15yes
48:15the image itself
48:16stunning image
48:18I really really love this
48:19but in reality
48:19it's worth a few
48:21hundred pounds
48:21we've got a couple
48:23of medallions
48:25that were awarded
48:26to him also
48:26we've got a bronze
48:27one here
48:28but this one
48:29did you see that
48:30I nipped off
48:31just before we started
48:32well I nipped off
48:34to weigh this medal
48:35because I don't know
48:36whether you know
48:36but this is an
48:3718 karat gold medal
48:38oh gosh
48:39right
48:39and its scrap value
48:41alone is £7,000
48:43that's amazing
48:44I see why he ran off
48:46I'm glad you came back
48:47I did come back with it
48:49so
48:50I think that
48:51what you have here
48:52one of my favourite
48:54stories of the day
48:55at £12,000 to £18,000
48:56that's very good
48:58isn't it
48:58thank you so much
48:59for coming
49:00that's a pleasure
49:00thank you
49:01thank you
49:01we've always been
49:06proud of him
49:07I think
49:08that people
49:09could look more
49:11at what skills
49:12and talents
49:12they've got
49:13there's more
49:14there outside
49:14if they only
49:15would try things
49:16because he was
49:16just a normal guy
49:17working as a draftsman
49:18and he tapped
49:19into the talents
49:20that he had
49:21the sun is shining
49:34two beautiful jewels
49:36sparkling away
49:36how did you get them
49:38well these belong
49:39to my grandmother
49:40who was born in 1900
49:42in Donegal
49:43in very rural Ireland
49:45and I always remembered
49:47this watch
49:48on my grandmother's wrist
49:49as a little child
49:50growing up
49:51I can never remember
49:52her with any other
49:53type of watch
49:54on her wrist
49:55she went to Trinity
49:56College in Dublin
49:57to study
49:58as a young woman
49:59at the age of 25
50:01in 1925
50:02she travelled
50:03from Ireland
50:04to New York
50:06gosh
50:06where she would have
50:07travelled on her own
50:08she would have sailed
50:09as a 25 year old woman
50:10of course
50:10and to know that
50:12she was such a
50:12confident lady
50:13it's no wonder
50:14that she chose
50:15some really pretty
50:16pieces of jewellery
50:17more than likely
50:18in New York
50:19because the style
50:20of both of the pieces
50:21is very American
50:22they have a lovely way
50:24of producing
50:25what we could call
50:26this sort of
50:27filigree
50:27pierced metal work
50:29in this bracelet
50:30in particular
50:31there's another mark
50:33that denotes
50:34that it's not
50:35a European piece
50:35because it's marked
50:3610k
50:37which is for
50:3810 carat white gold
50:39which again
50:39is something
50:40very typical
50:41of American jewellery
50:42at the time
50:43in the centre
50:44in the centre here
50:45you've got
50:45a lovely little
50:46diamond sparkling away
50:47and either side
50:49the two green stones
50:50are actually
50:50synthetic emeralds
50:51they're not
50:52natural emeralds
50:53I bet she was drawn
50:54to the green
50:55for Emerald Isle
50:56of course
50:57no doubt
50:58and it was very popular
51:00again to use
51:01synthetic stones
51:01at this stage
51:02because to cut stones
51:04this size
51:05and of that shape
51:06would have been
51:06very expensive
51:07but all in all
51:08a beautiful
51:09elegant piece of jewellery
51:11and she sounds
51:12as though she was
51:13a very elegant lady
51:13as well
51:14and particularly
51:15if she wore this watch
51:16all the time
51:17that is a level
51:18of sophistication
51:19I have to say
51:20to be wearing
51:21a beautiful cocktail watch
51:22as we can see here
51:23she ended up also
51:24a pig farmer's wife
51:25so I'm guessing
51:26she didn't wear those
51:27slopping out the pigs
51:29now we have a watch
51:31which we would class
51:33as a costume watch
51:35because it's actually
51:36a metal
51:37that has been
51:38rhodium plated
51:39so it's not
51:40a precious metal strap
51:41and also
51:42the green stones here
51:44these are actually glass
51:45so that fits in again
51:47with this whole idea
51:48of costume
51:49dress jewellery
51:50which again
51:51was rising in popularity
51:52in the 1920s
51:54I mean even Chanel
51:55would mix up
51:56her costume jewellery
51:57and her precious gem jewellery
51:58and try and
52:00trick her friends
52:01and say
52:01which do you think
52:02is real
52:02and which is fake
52:03and they often
52:04got it wrong
52:04but that was how good
52:06the quality was
52:07on both of them
52:08you know
52:08we're looking at
52:09a reasonable value
52:11maybe 50
52:1260 pounds
52:13and then with the
52:14bracelet
52:15because it is that
52:1610 carat gold
52:16as opposed to
52:1714 15 or 18
52:19and that keeps
52:20the value down
52:20at auction
52:21I'd expect that to
52:22fetch between
52:23500 and 700 pounds
52:24so collectively
52:26in the region of
52:27600 pounds
52:28for the two pieces
52:29but as we have seen
52:31it is the story
52:32that counts
52:33in the elegance
52:33of your grandmother
52:34that's right
52:35thank you very much
52:36my pleasure
52:36thank you
52:37thank you
52:37two Indian albums
52:46dated
52:47around the start
52:49of the 1800s
52:50so 1810 to 1820
52:52are many of them
52:53how did these
52:55come into your possession
52:56my mother got them
52:57in a secondhand market
52:59in Dublin
53:00okay
53:00and do you remember
53:01how much she paid
53:02for them
53:02possibly
53:04maybe
53:05five pounds
53:06for the pair
53:07okay
53:08so we have
53:08two albums
53:09and the school
53:11of painting
53:11is called
53:12company school
53:13meaning
53:14East India Company
53:15started in 1600
53:17and went on
53:19well into the
53:20late 1800s
53:22let's face it
53:23they were there
53:24to extract
53:25money and resources
53:26from India
53:27there are
53:28some small mercies
53:30and human
53:31stories that come
53:33out of it
53:33so you have
53:34this beautiful
53:35new school
53:36of painting
53:36which is a mix
53:37of Indian
53:38and European
53:39and you see
53:40some beautiful
53:41examples
53:41in these albums
53:43this one
53:45it shows
53:46Indian life
53:47you see
53:48the tradesmen
53:49working away
53:51in the background
53:51maybe a subject
53:53matter that was
53:54avoided
53:54in traditional
53:55Indian miniature
53:56painting
53:57or Mughal
53:57miniature painting
53:59you see some
54:00real Indian life
54:01which is what
54:01the Europeans
54:02were interested in
54:03so this book
54:04was made
54:04for the Europeans
54:06exactly
54:07exactly
54:08so interesting
54:09these are the
54:10Polaroids
54:11of early India
54:12and the centre
54:13of this picture
54:14is the
54:16abhorrent act
54:17of Sati
54:18and Sati
54:20is when
54:22the husband
54:22dies
54:23the woman
54:24put herself
54:25on the funeral
54:26pyre
54:26and commits
54:27suicide
54:28it was banned
54:29by the Mughal
54:30emperors
54:31and later
54:32made illegal
54:33by the British
54:34in the mid-1800s
54:35so this painting
54:37here
54:37it's great
54:39that we've got
54:39such an early date
54:401780
54:41and this album
54:45is just
54:45stuffed with
54:47wonderful examples
54:49of this mix
54:51of Indian
54:52and European work
54:53a teapoy
54:55so a local
54:55soldier
54:56isn't that beautiful
55:00extraordinary
55:01it's very European
55:02it's like a
55:03biblical tale
55:04it's really startling
55:05absolutely
55:05well they are
55:07very collectible
55:07each piece
55:10a slight variance
55:12in quality
55:13the seapoy
55:14for example
55:14on its own
55:16£1000
55:17oh
55:18wow
55:20wait
55:21each page
55:22each page
55:22that's just the seapoy
55:24that's extraordinary
55:25oh my god
55:26that's your starting point
55:28the Sati burning
55:29£6,000 to £8,000
55:31for the book
55:32or
55:32each
55:33for that
55:35page
55:35that's the Sati burning
55:37£6,000 to £8,000
55:38so to try and put
55:41an overall figure
55:43on both albums
55:44minimum
55:45£22,000
55:47wow
55:49that's amazing
55:50if you ever decided
55:51to sell them
55:52I don't think
55:52we'll be getting rid of them
55:53though
55:54I think they're so beautiful
55:57you can't
55:57it's great to hear
55:59a lot more than we thought
56:03startling
56:05yeah
56:05really extraordinary
56:07really nice to know
56:09more information about it
56:10I have to do some more
56:12digging
56:13digging yeah
56:14before we go
56:24I just wanted to show you
56:25something unusual
56:26we see lots of dolls
56:28on the Antiques Roadshow
56:29but I've never seen one
56:31like this
56:32she dates from the 1860s
56:33she's a fortune telling doll
56:35and she would have been used
56:36as a kind of
56:37after dinner
56:38or parlour game
56:39if we passed around
56:40the guests
56:40and the reason is
56:42because look
56:42under her skirts
56:44are all these little
56:46fortunes written on
56:48pieces of paper
56:49and I've been allowed
56:50to open one
56:51which I should do
56:52very carefully
56:53look
56:53there you are
56:56and in it
56:57it says
56:59what you wish for
57:01you shall obtain
57:02isn't she amazing
57:05from the Antiques Roadshow
57:07here at Cartwright Hall
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