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Love Cabin - Season 1 Episode 4 -
Blowing Smok
Blowing Smok
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00:00I've always kept everything of all my kids which seems a bit silly but I can't throw it away and
00:17I'm so pleased that I have because this is Carrie now for me they're just things like when she was
00:28born that's how big she was that fitted her and it shows she didn't grow very much because that was
00:34her size shoe at the end size two I had really really really thin legs and I was really self
00:42conscious of them I used to wear five pairs of tights boys used to call me lucky legs lucky legs
00:47lucky they don't break Carrie and Joe Jodie's her twin they were never far apart I love that video
00:55it's one of the nicest evenings that the three of us had the three of us had had
01:05as a parent we think our children are always going to be there you'll be able to talk to
01:12them tomorrow you'll be able to say things to them tomorrow um but you can't always and just
01:20to remember the happy times it's a reminder that you don't take anything for granted don't take
01:30your children for granted
01:42you know I knew enough about Caroline that I I should have seen this coming her vulnerability
01:52I protected her when she was alive as best I could and what I'm doing now is protecting her in a
02:07different way I want the real Caroline to be remembered not this Caroline that was portrayed in the press
02:17love island
02:27love island presenter Caroline Flack has appeared in court completed not guilty to assaulting her boyfriend
02:33the presenter was released on conditional bail before her trial on March the fourth
02:38after the court the press were relentless we were being followed everywhere
02:45at one point I got out of the car to try and stop there perhaps following us and a pat basically just
02:54run me like he just carried on driving and I was like pushing his car from that moment it felt like she
02:59was on the run after the hearing I couldn't communicate with Caroline she was on social media
03:06looking at what the public was saying
03:08social media was really tough on Caroline but then after the court hearing she was all over the news we just couldn't believe it it was absolutely
03:16everywhere all the major TV channels were reporting the prosecution's version of events which just wasn't accurate
03:37it's strange being back this was just packed with press and everybody's screaming and shouting at Carrie and this was a really dark day
03:52but we didn't realize how much the rest of her life was set that day the statement given by the prosecutor set the tone
04:04set the tone for the next two months that day Caroline's face was everywhere the headlines read as if she were a domestic abuser and had hit her boyfriend with a lamp
04:15exactly what information the prosecution was being fed by the police but a lot of what she said in court was wrong in so many ways
04:24I've spent years getting various documents that tell a different story of what happened that night
04:31I've been able to cross-reference the police reports of on the night when Carrie was arrested with the statement the prosecutor made
04:41so where is this all about a lamp that haunts us where did that come from
04:47now it's alleged that she hit him over the head with a lamp
04:50she picked up a lamp and smashed him over the head
04:53almost caved his head in with a lamp the lamp the prosecutor says
04:57he Burton said he had been asleep and had been hit over the head by Caroline with a lamp
05:03but then looking at the report written on the night by the police
05:08it says it's unclear what object was actually used to assault Mr. Burton
05:13he initially stated to officers that he assumed it was a desk fan or a lamp
05:19or a lamp Mr. Burton stated I don't know what it was
05:25there was no compelling or direct evidence that anyone had been hit with a lamp
05:31during Caroline's interview under caution and Caroline's position always was
05:35that she had the phone in her hand she went to rouse and awaken and the phone connected with him
05:40it couldn't have been more clear to anyone that read that transcript
05:44the police report says Miss Flack's phone has been seized as it has a significant amount of blood on it
05:51and a crack on one of the corners suggesting this may have been the weapon
05:55wow
05:57so it's actually in there that they thought it was a phone
06:00yes
06:01nothing else was taken from that flat at all
06:04you would think the weapon would have been seized
06:07the lamp is just sat back at the property not being touched
06:11not being touched was never examined
06:13we know that the evidence was the phone
06:16somebody made a decision to leave that out
06:21I mean I was sitting with Lewis back there
06:25and he couldn't believe what was being said
06:27he actually took to Instagram
06:29and he said
06:31what I witnessed today was horrible
06:34she did not hit me with a lamp
06:37you know this is Carrie's life here
06:41they're the things that get into the press
06:43and they're the things that she was going to be tried on
06:46this is evidence that a prosecutor can bloody stand up and say about someone
06:53I think it's disgusting
06:55but the damage was done
06:57Carrie knew that people would be thinking about like that for the rest of her life
07:01yeah
07:02forever
07:03yeah she couldn't lose that
07:04no she'd never lose that tag
07:06she hasn't lost it even though she's dead
07:18Caroline was in a bad place
07:20she'd been in a spiral since her arrest
07:23on Christmas Eve we wanted to take her out
07:26so we took her Christmas shopping
07:28and bearing in mind she hadn't been out
07:32so from the day she was arrested to Christmas Eve
07:34I don't know how long that was maybe two weeks
07:36she hadn't left a hotel room
07:38and we were really confident that nobody was following us
07:42and then we realised she was papped
07:46and they wrote in the papers how she was beaming and joking
08:03I think people would have thought she didn't have a care in the world
08:07what nobody knows when they see these pictures in isolation
08:17is that she had been on suicide watch for two weeks
08:22and we were trying to give her something normal to do
08:25she wasn't laughing it off
08:27if I'd seen her laugh or smile in that two weeks
08:30I was like thank God maybe she won't die today
08:33maybe we can leave her for half an hour
08:36maybe there is a way out of this
08:51Caroline thought she had no control
08:54lies were being told about her all the time
08:58so Caroline was desperate to tell her side of the story
09:03you know get some truth out there
09:06and even if she couldn't speak out
09:09her agents may speak out on her behalf
09:12say something
09:14but she kept being told complete shutdown
09:17don't do anything
09:21I want to ask her agent why
09:24why was she silenced
09:27hello
09:28long time no see
09:30all right thank you
09:32how are you
09:33good
09:34all right
09:41you okay
09:42it's just
09:43it's been since the funeral
09:44I know
09:45I know
09:46long time
09:47yeah
09:48during the whole time Carrie was going through this
09:56she was advised to just stay silent
09:59I know that Carrie thought a lot of you and you were close
10:02how did you manage that
10:04so I think at first we just thought it was a misunderstanding
10:08everything was going to be fine
10:10so we sort of didn't say anything just told everyone to wait out
10:14later on when it was coming to the press or comments everything we checked
10:19with our lawyers because if she'd said something those words could have been catastrophic in court
10:26and they'll be regurgitated in the press over and over again so yes she wanted to have her voice but it was silence's safest really
10:38I understand that if she could have you know gone against the story it would have gone some way to making it better for her
10:51we knew what the truth was
10:53mm
10:54you knew
10:55but the newspapers
10:58you can tell them till you're blue in the face
11:00at this point Caroline was worth more to them in print to be the villain
11:05than the hero that she was six months ago when she was hosting Love Island
11:08you were no longer really managing the newspapers as such
11:14it's uncontrollable at times
11:16yeah
11:17you're dancing with the devil
11:18before she was arrested
11:21Caroline was very good actually
11:24she knew
11:27acutely
11:29what the right response was a lot of the time
11:32they were going to print a story about
11:34one of her boyfriends
11:36it wasn't a very nice story
11:38Caroline contacted the journalist directly and said
11:41can we give them a nice story and exclusive
11:43so they make another story go away
11:45but isn't that awful?
11:47yeah
11:48isn't that an awful way to have to live
11:50to have to do that
11:51to give information about something
11:53so that the bad information won't come out
11:55yeah
11:56you know
11:57I
11:58we saw the tide turn on her
12:00we just became completely powerless
12:03it just makes me sad and it makes me mad
12:09that something as thoughtful as this going on in Caroline's life
12:15she becomes not a person to the press
12:18she's sort of expendable
12:21a headline for 45p is what that is
12:24yeah
12:25that's what it comes down to isn't it
12:26yeah
12:28every time you put Caroline Flack in the newspapers
12:32they sold
12:34and on the front page a lot more
12:37she was the golden girl who delivered for so many years
12:40and ironically delivering even more
12:45in the worst period of her life
12:49an editor rang me up and said listen
12:51would she do a big interview about it?
12:53I said well I very much doubt it because it's still in the hands of the police and the prosecution
12:57he said well in that case go and fuck her over
13:00to hear that kind of like
13:03coming and you know what's coming before they do you're like
13:05Jesus Christ
13:16over that Christmas
13:18Carrie seemed to be coping
13:21and then on January the 1st
13:25this was the headlines
13:30Flack's bedroom bloodbath
13:33and it was complete and utter shock
13:38the way this story reads
13:40is that Caroline had hit her boyfriend with a lamp
13:46and that was his blood
13:50and that is so far from the truth
13:52that was Caroline's blood
13:55where she'd cut her wrists
14:01Caroline
14:03reacted
14:04terribly
14:07because of the embarrassment
14:09it was an embarrassment
14:11this was her blood
14:13obviously we wondered who took that picture and who gave it to the Sun
14:23we were told at the beginning that it was actually a police officer
14:28but it wasn't
14:29Lewis admitted that he took that photo and sent it to one of his friends
14:33and then one of his friends sold the picture without any information
14:38without any backup
14:41to the Sun newspaper
14:46once this came out
14:47I don't think anyone thought of anything else then that she was guilty
14:51she was tried in the Sun newspaper and found guilty
15:06until something's written about your own family or friends you don't realize how bad the press are
15:13Lizzie, my oldest daughter was 10 years older than Caroline
15:32she was very protective and she always took to heart what was written in the press
15:35and it's always affected her
15:42and it's always affected her
15:44are you alright, come?
15:46oh, what a lot of this being you
15:50because I'm not hearing Carrie's story because she's locked herself away out of shame
15:56the only side I had was in the press
15:59and my instant reaction was
16:04if she did that then she needs to be punished
16:08I haven't got any facts because I'm not there
16:11all I'm hearing is this
16:16it affected the way I thought about my sister
16:21the way that she felt that she could come to me for support
16:24and she never could even just say I didn't do it
16:29she didn't even feel that I would believe her
16:33because she, you, you think, but it's in black and white
16:38so people are going to listen much more to that than what I say
16:42and that's to her sister
16:44and that's what these lies do
16:47how deep they go and how deeply they affect relationships
16:50I let her down by not being there
16:54by not finding out how she felt more
16:57and I can never
17:00change anything
17:04every single person that was there
17:07that let that go to print
17:09should be ashamed of themselves
17:11because as far as I'm concerned
17:13that is one of the main reasons why she isn't here today
17:16today
17:34oh hi there, my name's Chris Flack
17:37and this is being recorded, this message
17:40for a film that may go out with Disney
17:45what I'm after today is if you could put me through to
17:48sorry
17:50are you alright?
17:52oh I thought you sighed, sorry
17:54I wonder if you could put me through to Victoria Newton
17:58yes, so this could be recorded for your Disney documentary
18:02yes
18:04hold on a second
18:05thank you
18:07Victoria Newton is the editor of The Sun
18:10she said to me, I've come into The Sun
18:13to clean this paper up
18:15so I'd like a front page apology
18:20as large as they put the photo of her blood on the bed
18:25I've been on hold for four minutes
18:28well this is eight minutes now
18:31no one's even come back to say
18:32yeah, sorry for keeping you waiting
18:35we're trying to find Victoria
18:37I'd love to just say
18:39what have you put in place?
18:40what have you done
18:42to stop this happening?
18:44eleven minutes now
18:46must be a busy news day
18:48hello mate
18:50hello?
18:52oh sorry, I thought this was Andy, hang on
18:54cut me off
18:57I don't believe it
18:58I don't believe it
19:03the way the press covered this story
19:07was one of the worst things at the time
19:10I want to speak to a journalist to find out
19:15how something so misleading can appear on the front page of a national newspaper
19:20so Paul, part of this process, I've contacted 30 journalists
19:30but not one of them will talk to me
19:33why do you think that is?
19:35I think it's a mixture of
19:38shame
19:40fear
19:42I think they've probably been ordered not to
19:45really?
19:46by their editors
19:48hmm
19:50so what I want to know is
19:52who would be responsible for the picture of Carrie's blood going in the Sun newspaper?
19:57I've been in newsrooms and they've rang up and said
20:00how much will you give me for this picture or this story?
20:03so in my experience
20:05the news editor will say how much do you want
20:07he will then go into the editor
20:09and his senior journalist
20:11so that's really gone up to a very senior level
20:13usually it comes in your conference because you have conference every morning
20:17and that's what your front page is going to be
20:19yeah, that's what I thought
20:21from experience
20:23that would have gone through three lawyers
20:25it would go through lawyers
20:27it would go through three lawyers
20:29the editor, the news editor, conference where you have
20:32plenty of very intelligent journalists who are very able to speak for themselves
20:35in all newspapers
20:37debating whether or not they should use it
20:38in my experience
20:41that decision would have been
20:43backed and probably salivated on all day
20:45as soon as they got that picture by everybody in that newsroom
20:48it was gory, it was macabre, it was sinister
20:51you know, she was deranged
20:53she wasn't, right?
20:55but they don't think that way
20:57they think this is such a compelling
21:00is the way they see that
21:02and graphic, gory
21:04demise
21:06if they'd gone through all those checks with their lawyers
21:09they didn't confirm with anybody
21:13that it was
21:15her boyfriend's blood
21:17which it was portrayed as
21:19her agent didn't get a call, you didn't get a call
21:21no
21:23quite often, when a story is so
21:26good
21:28if there's any chance at all
21:30you could say something that could even have brought that story down 10%
21:32less drama
21:34less, you know, shock factor
21:36and you've got just enough that it can be true
21:39in my opinion
21:41they'd be like, don't call
21:43because that would get in the way
21:45of the story
21:47this is, I can't even get this
21:49it's even worse than I thought
21:52how do you look at that?
21:54you're a journalist
21:55yeah
21:56so where does the journalism come in
21:59and the interest of Caroline
22:01or the readers
22:03what does the truth matter?
22:06it does to some journalists
22:09and it should do to every journalist
22:10but in my experience
22:12it's really just about
22:14who's got the best front page the next day
22:16so do you think
22:18there was ever a discussion
22:20what effect it would have on her?
22:23in my view
22:26being honest with you
22:28probably
22:31not
22:33and I doubt anyone
22:35said, is this the right thing to do?
22:37really?
22:39you'll never be judged on a story that ruins somebody's life
22:42you will never pay a price for that
22:44so all the times, all the interviews, all the things that, you know
22:47you know
22:48go on with the press
22:50like on a personal level
22:52it just means nothing
22:54it
22:55it was like she was betrayed on every part
22:59why take the photo?
23:01why sell it?
23:03why print it?
23:05everything that happened like that
23:07was making it more and more clear there was no way out of it
23:11we couldn't stop
23:13the effect it was having on Carrie
23:14yeah
23:15and that's what was hard for us
23:18yes we're back and we're bigger than ever
23:21say hello to Laura Whitmore
23:24love island
23:25love island was a massive thing for Caroline
23:28caroline
23:30Laura taking over
23:32brought up every single insecurity
23:34we weren't allowed to watch it
23:35we weren't allowed to watch it
23:36then she wanted to watch it
23:37so we'd sit and watch it together
23:38this is incredible
23:39look at this
23:40look at the view
23:41and then every day she'd ask me for the numbers
23:42how many viewers
23:43how many viewers
23:44how many viewers
23:45shall we have a little chat
23:46shall we have a little chat
23:47shall we have a little chat
23:48shall we have a little chat
23:49yeah
23:50yeah
23:51yeah
23:52that constant turmoil killed Caroline
23:53so girls how are you feeling
23:54so girls how are you feeling
23:55good
23:56she felt like she was being airbrushed out of the show
23:57she said I know that I'm gone
23:58I know that I'm done
23:59this is it
24:00and then we weren't allowed to watch it
24:01we weren't allowed to watch it
24:02then she wanted to watch it
24:03then she wanted to watch it
24:04so we'd sit and watch it together
24:05this is incredible look at this
24:06look at the view
24:07that constant turmoil killed Caroline
24:15so girls how are you feeling
24:16good
24:17she felt like she was being airbrushed out of the show
24:20she said I know that I'm gone
24:21I know that I'm done
24:22this is it
24:23she just saw the crumbling of everything she'd built
24:37she couldn't go back to her house
24:43you know the place that she'd lived and bought with her own money
24:46there were people kind of camped outside
24:49so we decided that she needed to move
25:00everything was so like cloak and dagger because the fear of being caught
25:04or people knowing where she was was so scary
25:08that all of this had to happen in the middle of the night
25:11she had to move out at 3 o'clock in the morning
25:13but luckily Jodie knew of a removal company that would do that
25:18and they were lovely
25:19they moved almost everything she owned into like a gated apartment
25:24that actually nobody ever found out where she was
25:27I think that gave her a sense of normality
25:30maybe we'll just pop out and buy some sheets and stuff on church street
25:34or just buy some nice little things
25:36and make it a little cosy
25:39but this flat was just
25:41there was something about it
25:43it was number 13
25:45and opposite her was this park
25:48which was sort of a cemetery
25:50and one of the headstones was Caroline Flack
25:53things like that would play on Carrie's mind
25:57she phoned me and said about it
25:59and I said
26:00oh Carrie don't be
26:01you know
26:02that's don't
26:04there's nothing like that
26:05but it was strange
26:06when she realised that nobody knew where she was
26:18she started going out for walks with Ruby the dog
26:21she wasn't drinking at this point
26:25I'm on church street now
26:26I'm just taking Ruby for a walk
26:27text me
26:28I can meet you at home
26:29can we go
26:30for a nice dinner somewhere
26:31or a soft drink
26:32Jesus
26:33I'm so boring
26:34what I wouldn't do for glass wine
26:37we went rock climbing
26:39and we had the most amazing evening
26:42nobody came up to us
26:43nobody spoke to us
26:44she said to me
26:45I'm gonna be okay
26:46we're gonna be okay
26:51oh my god
26:52I've had an idea
26:54like
26:55I think I should make a documentary about all of this
26:58I could tell that she was getting stronger
27:00because she was talking about doing a documentary
27:04she was saying I just really want to get out
27:06like what's happened on my side of everything
27:09and so
27:10it felt like she was turning a corner
27:13and you know
27:18we felt that actually
27:19the case was going to be dropped
27:21she was opening
27:22pinning
27:24everything on
27:25common sense
27:26finally prevailing
27:27and coming to light
27:30Caroline and her legal team
27:32were hoping that the CPS would review
27:35all the evidence
27:37and conclude
27:38there was no public interest
27:40and drop the case
27:41in this case
27:43yes
27:44the complainant
27:45withdrew
27:46his support for the prosecution
27:48but undoubtedly
27:49they felt they had enough
27:50they had I think
27:51a 999 call recording
27:52they had
27:53body warm camera
27:54warm weather police
27:55and
27:56they have to take domestic abuse seriously
27:57because we as a country
27:58have said
27:59we should take domestic abuse seriously
28:01Nazir Afzal
28:02is a former chief prosecutor
28:04who defended the CPS's decision
28:06to prosecute Caroline
28:07I've given him access to the documents from my investigation
28:14he still believes the CPS were doing the right thing
28:18you did an interview
28:22believing that the CPS were right to charge
28:25yeah
28:26and I just wondered
28:28now
28:29having looked more at the case
28:31why you think they were right to charge
28:33so
28:34need to explain how a prosecutor does his work
28:36a prosecutor doesn't do their work in isolation
28:38it relies upon what the police provide them with
28:41yeah
28:42so if the police tell them
28:44serious injury
28:46blooded everywhere
28:47and we are really concerned that it might be repeated
28:50I can see how a prosecutor might come to a conclusion that
28:54we need to put this before a court
28:57you have to accept the police to tell you the truth
29:00otherwise the whole system collapses, isn't it?
29:02that said
29:04having looked at all your evidence
29:06I can't understand why they rushed to judgment
29:09this was a case where there's no previous history
29:11where there is no controlling or coercive
29:14powerful dynamic
29:16Mr. Burton never ever wanted this case
29:19no
29:20was adamant this case should not be prosecuted
29:22no, it wasn't just reluctant
29:23adamant
29:24this was a one-off situation
29:26where
29:27um
29:28she lost her temper
29:29whatever the reason was
29:30and she
29:31did what she did
29:32which she accepts
29:33for all of those reasons
29:34the very worst thing that should have happened
29:36is a caution
29:37it's difficult
29:38after, you know, hearing you say that
29:48in one way it's like
29:51vindication
29:52it is
29:53it's vindication for all the work I've done
29:55Yeah
29:57but it actually makes it a lot harder
29:59I totally understand it
30:01I have prosecuted thousands of these cases
30:04knowing what I know now
30:07none of it makes sense, Christine
30:09absolutely none of it makes sense
30:10you know
30:11almost immediately
30:12in the cold light of day
30:14prosecutors looking at this case
30:16would have formed the view
30:18this case is going nowhere
30:19um
30:20and they should have
30:21stopped the case
30:22in fact
30:23they're
30:24they're required to stop the case
30:26uh
30:27where there is insufficient evidence
30:28where it's not in the public interest to proceed
30:31and I can't think of any reason to proceed
30:33other than being scared
30:34of what the media were going to say about them
30:36but
30:37you know
30:38it's not about you losing face
30:41this is about justice
30:43my take on it is that
30:45Caroline would still be with us
30:47if certain decisions weren't taken
30:49back in
30:50that month
30:51or two
31:02I just don't have little feet
31:08how do I do it?
31:09I had to do it on that
31:10then you just do this
31:11and you go
31:12what's it?
31:13erm
31:14I'm just waiting for the call today
31:15erm
31:16for
31:17and then explain what it is
31:18so you
31:19so you talk about it
31:20and
31:21you have to explain what it is
31:22for
31:23well today
31:24well today
31:25today is the cutoff point
31:26that's what we
31:27that's what we're waiting for
31:28what's the cutoff of what?
31:29find out whether it's going to court or not
31:32oh right
31:33no right
31:34it was such a shock that they didn't just drop the case
31:54this case
31:55this case was prosecuted because
31:57in my view
32:00it would have been more difficult to stop the snowball rolling
32:05than it would be to just let it continue
32:09saving face
32:11I think adequately describes the stance that I think was taken
32:15because she had pleaded not guilty it meant she would face trial
32:22and the police footage that was filmed that night would be played in court as evidence
32:27throughout this whole thing Caroline's worst nightmare was that the body cam footage was going to be released
32:40it wasn't because she was scared of what she'd done to Lewis
32:44she was scared because she looks completely and utterly unhinged in this body cam footage
32:51because she had tried to kill herself
32:54this was a snapshot into her private life
32:57it's worst
32:59she was covered in blood
33:00she was half naked
33:02she was in a really dark place
33:05it showed her
33:07mental health if you like
33:09she knew it wasn't going to make her guilty of abuse
33:13but it was going to show her
33:16to the outside world
33:18how she sometimes felt
33:21she kept saying to me
33:24I just can't have people see the body cam footage
33:28I can't have my family know that that's out there
33:31and I just think she was not thinking of herself
33:35I think she was thinking of other people actually
33:37Valentine's Day
33:48Happy Valentine's Day to everyone out there whether you're attached or single or whatever
33:53Caroline didn't like Valentine's Day
33:55she hated it in fact
33:57because usually that's when she'd just broken up or something was happening or
34:00you know
34:02it wasn't a big thing
34:04she'd already been through so much
34:06then the Sun devoted an article to a Valentine's card
34:10which had gone on sale mocking Caroline
34:15lie about the lamp that was brought out in court by the prosecutor
34:19had been turned into a joke which the Sun had chosen to reprint
34:23sharing it to an even wider audience
34:27it's not journalism it's bullying
34:30and it was like another nail in Carrie's coffin really
34:33that day I went to work and I just remember thinking
34:37she's strong she's being really strong and she's saying all the right things
34:41and then I just didn't hear from her
34:43her mum messaged me saying have you heard from her and I was like no
34:49and then she started messaging me like it was one after the other after the other
34:53like it didn't make any sense it was nonsense and I knew that it wasn't she
34:58I knew she'd been drinking and I knew I could get in
35:02to the flat
35:04so I called a friend I messaged her sister and her mum
35:08and I said I'm gonna go there there's something weird
35:10I met my friend outside we let ourselves in and the flat was trashed
35:15it was the plant had been pulled off the shelves
35:19the telly was broken
35:21there's stuff everywhere
35:24we couldn't rouse her at all
35:27we were really scared to call an ambulance
35:29we were more scared of her going to hospital
35:34in a public environment
35:36because of what the press would do with them getting her life saved
35:41it makes me feel sick that I thought that was our thought process
35:46we called an ambulance
35:50and I just know that the paramedics came
35:53and she was talking gibberish and I was begging them to take her
35:57and they were saying she doesn't want to go and I was like but she's saying that she's on the streets of India
36:01but in the end they didn't take her
36:05when she woke up she was furious that we'd called the paramedics
36:12and she said to me you will never ever know what it's like to be me
36:18to be me
36:20I am in so much pain
36:22and she just was
36:24it was like she was speaking but she wasn't there
36:28she wasn't
36:30she wasn't
36:32there
36:34erm
36:35on the morning
36:41they were there
36:43her friends were there
36:45but Carrie had said oh you can leave you can leave
36:48and then she said Jodie will be here soon
36:53we left at about ten
36:54when her sister and two others got to Carrie's the door was locked
37:09well Carrie never does she just doesn't you know the door would be open and everything would be open
37:14and she just knew there was something wrong
37:17they could hear Ruby barking from the inside
37:19and I was saying she would never leave Ruby if she's gone out
37:22I was like she'll be there she'll be asleep
37:25the landlord had come
37:27and I got in and erm yeah Jodie found her
37:30and erm yeah she couldn't do anything she tried but she couldn't do anything
37:35so she phoned me
37:39and then when I got there
37:41there was people milling about outside
37:44and I went into the room
37:46I went to touch her and the police wouldn't let me
37:48and let me
37:54I got there and she was dead
37:57erm
37:59everybody was quiet
38:01it was really quiet
38:05Ruby was just walking around in the flat
38:07I just couldn't
38:08I didn't understand like what was going on
38:18somebody called me and I answered the phone
38:21he said hi my name's da da da da I'm the head of something at BBC
38:24is it true that Caroline Flack's dead and I just couldn't I like through my phone
38:28I remember being like oh my god I couldn't believe that I was standing with her body
38:34and that somebody was calling me to fact check that she was dead
38:39good evening welcome to BBC News
38:41Caroline Flack the former ITV Love Island host has been found dead in her London flat
38:47a lawyer for her family confirmed she had taken her own life
38:49this is very shocking news of course there have been lots of questions this evening about what has happened here
38:56the feeling of how bad she must have felt to do what she did
39:02the feeling of how bad she must have felt to do what she did
39:16that's the thing that stays with me
39:19she was just in a place where erm she saw no way out
39:24and that must be awful
39:27she couldn't see that it would have all been fine
39:29they would have got through this
39:32and I just can't imagine it
39:38she had served her sentence by then
39:41more than anyone could imagine
39:43and she had nothing left
39:50it's so weird
39:52that she's not here
39:54and it doesn't feel real
39:55and it's never felt real
39:56and I continue to message her
39:59as if she's here
40:01anyone who knew Caroline
40:14knew she was vivacious
40:16loving
40:18and had a passion for life
40:19there was an outpouring of emotion on social media
40:22there was an outpouring of emotion on social media
40:25Lewis Burton shared a photo of them together on Instagram
40:28with a message that said
40:30my heart is broken
40:31we had something so special
40:33I am so lost for words
40:35I am in so much pain
40:36I am in so much pain
40:55after her death
40:57people were still going for her
40:59it was disgusting
41:01it's all the same lies being spread about her
41:04I do remember
41:07moments after she had died
41:10I got a phone call from an editor
41:13saying
41:15shut down
41:16don't talk about it
41:18don't mention anything about Caroline's death
41:20any articles you've written
41:22any articles we've written
41:24it's complete shutdown
41:26the only other time
41:28that I've ever been ordered by
41:30being ordered by
41:32anyone in a position of
41:35power and influence in a newspaper
41:37to not talk about anything
41:39was
41:41when the mirror phone hacking was exposed
41:43and we were told
41:45don't speak a word to anyone
41:47don't answer any questions
41:49we were talking about
41:51what probably the biggest court trial in press
41:54British press history with the Royal
41:55the Royal
41:57and Caroline Flax
41:59death
42:07it wasn't that long after Caroline had died
42:09I met Rebecca Brooks
42:11head of the Sun newspaper group
42:13and she said
42:15everybody was crying in the newsroom when they heard
42:18and they said we could give an award in her name
42:21they have an awards night every year
42:22and we were given award in Caroline's name
42:26it's time now to present the mental health award
42:29and to do so someone
42:31who's experienced first-hand
42:33how devastating it can be
42:35when someone's mental health deteriorates
42:37Christine Flack
42:39of course I thought oh fabulous
42:41you know you're not even thinking
42:43the winner of the mental health award
42:45in memory of my daughter Carrie
42:47is Charmaine George
42:49and I'd just like to say
42:51how she did what she did
42:53because it's some
42:55some mornings it's just hard to get up
42:57and carry on
42:59but to do what she did
43:01is wonderful
43:03and she deserves this
43:05the award was given to a very nice lady
43:07that had lost her son
43:09and helped other people
43:11and everyone there was like
43:14someone famous
43:15there was footballers
43:17there was David Beckett
43:19it was a place to be
43:21to be seen
43:23and I think what am I doing
43:25with that? I'm not the celebrity
43:27it's Caroline
43:29and that they took that from her
43:31I felt really guilty
43:34that I'd gone along with it
43:38and you think oh why did I get involved
43:41but sometimes you have to get involved
43:44to get that realisation that
43:46you're being played
43:48that's what it felt like they were doing
43:51in my opinion they're doing it so that you don't complain
43:56they're doing it just so it looked like they had my blessing
44:00I don't believe it's because they're sorry
44:03but it's how can we make this problem go away
44:06to paparazzi and tabloids looking for a cheap sell
44:11to trolls hiding behind a keyboard
44:13enough
44:15your words affect people
44:17it was the media amplifying what social media was doing
44:20it was both strands
44:22I don't think they understand
44:24the impact that it has on somebody's mental health
44:28we have to stand together
44:30death cannot be in vain
44:31when Caroline died her close friends just wanted some way to you know remember her
44:45and they thought about what was the thing Caroline loved most
45:02she loved music she loved dancing she loved singing
45:06they put on flat stock
45:12and everybody that appears or even comes on stage to talk about knew her
45:19and I didn't know she knew so many people
45:24it affected a lot of people's lives
45:26we love you flat stock
45:28all the money we raise goes to charities
45:37at flat stock everything is positive
45:41remembering Caroline and what she stood for
45:44she was trying her best and she was making the success of her life
45:49despite all of her demons
45:51it's just a way that we can talk about Carrie
45:57I just dance
46:02Caroline was the most generous and loving daughter
46:08sister and auntie
46:10losing her was unbearable
46:13but no one should have to go through what Caroline went through
46:16and I've spent five years fighting to uncover the truth about what happened
46:22but what I want to stress to anyone feeling that bad
46:28that scared and tired of life
46:32there's always a way forward
46:33you know you're not strange if you have depression you're not strange if you've got mental health problems
46:44you're normal that's that's life
46:47and it's just helping deal with that and making you feel okay about it
46:51because that's you know you should you should just feel okay about it
46:55perhaps that's a lesson you know it's a lesson
47:00and that's that's the legacy
47:12she was about life
47:14so sit back
47:16and just fell down a hole
47:18sauce
47:21she was about enjoying life
47:22helping others to enjoy life
47:36we've had a lovely time haven't we
47:40we've had a great time we did
47:42it is corny when we say oh be kind
47:44but you know that's that's a small phrase but it means such a
47:47such a such a lot and um if people lived by that then the world would be much nicer
47:54but it would be much nicer
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48:19He loves me so, that funny honey of mine
48:25Sometimes I'm down, sometimes I'm up
48:33But he follows round like some droopy eyed pup
48:38He loves me so, that funny honey of mine
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