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'Americans closer to where Mamdani is' than to veteran politicians who've served for decades
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00:00
Let's take a closer look at one of our top stories now.
00:15
This is Aperport.
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People in New York have just a few hours to choose their next mayor.
00:24
Over 1.2 million people have already cast their votes in the hotly contested three-way race
00:29
between Democratic Socialist candidate Zoran Mamdani, former Governor Andrew Cuomo,
00:35
who's running as an independent, and the Republican candidate Curtis Swila.
00:39
Mamdani looks increasingly like the one to beat in these elections.
00:43
Votes for him would give the city its first Muslim mayor and its youngest leader in generations.
00:48
While U.S. President Donald Trump has been vocal about his opposition to Mamdani,
00:52
he's called him a communist.
00:54
On Tuesday, the president said any Jewish person who votes for the Democratic candidate
00:59
is a stupid person.
01:01
Eliza Herbert has more.
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The Big Apple is casting a big vote.
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And this man, Zoran Mamdani, feels it is time for a new style of leadership.
01:12
The self-described socialist Democrat put affordability at the heart of his Merrill campaign,
01:17
pledging rent freezes, free buses, universal childcare and higher corporate taxes.
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It is time now for a new day in our politics.
01:28
And it is an honour and a privilege to be a part of a movement
01:31
that has fought every single day to bring that day forward.
01:35
If elected, the 34-year-old would become New York's second youngest and first Muslim mayor.
01:42
An outcome Donald Trump is trying to prevent.
01:45
Because if you have a communist running New York...
01:48
The U.S. President went so far on Tuesday as to accuse any Jewish Mamdani voters of being stupid,
01:55
based on his unfounded claim that Mamdani is anti-Semitic.
02:00
Andrew Cuomo, who is running for mayor as an independent after his surprise loss to Mamdani
02:05
in the Democratic primaries, has also gone on the attack.
02:09
The former governor of New York state is hoping to reboot his political career
02:13
after he resigned in 2021 over sexual assault allegations.
02:18
He says the outcome of this race could determine the future of the Democratic Party.
02:24
Well, I think what you're seeing is a civil war in the Democratic Party
02:29
that has been brewing for a while.
02:32
You have an extreme radical left that is run by the socialists.
02:37
That is challenging, what they would call moderate Democrats.
02:42
I'm a moderate Democrat.
02:46
And that contest is what you're seeing here.
02:50
But you're seeing it all across the country.
02:53
Republican Curtis Sliwa is also in the running.
02:56
However, he has an uphill battle if he's going to win in the Democratic stronghold of New York.
03:01
You've seen it all across the country.
03:03
We're going to speak more on Mamdani's momentous rise now
03:06
and bring in Laura Taman.
03:08
She's a clinical assistant professor of political science at Pace University.
03:12
She joins us from New York.
03:14
Laura, thank you so much for joining us on the program.
03:17
Mamdani has basically gone from a little-known assembly member
03:22
to a social media sensation and now the very likely next mayor of New York.
03:28
Why are people so drawn to him, do you think?
03:30
It's a great question.
03:34
I think the combination of him being the same person off camera that he is on camera
03:39
is really appealing to people at a time when they're losing trust in government.
03:45
His laser focus on the message of affordability obviously really won young people over.
03:51
Well, actually won people over from all age groups.
03:55
And he's bringing an energy to our politics that is new.
03:59
He'll be the youngest mayor that New York has had in 100 years.
04:04
And people seem excited for change.
04:07
Well, you mentioned there that he has a massive base among young people,
04:11
very popular among young people.
04:14
How much of this is about him being young?
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How much of the draw here is the fact that he is young?
04:21
And younger Americans, generally speaking, want to have people in charge
04:24
that are their own age, that they can relate to?
04:29
They do.
04:30
They are drawn to people who they can relate to for sure.
04:34
But he also does have the experience of being a member of the Assembly for several years.
04:39
So he has enough experience that he's been able to speak to
04:44
to make his policy proposals realistic and achievable.
04:49
But I think that both him being younger and the issues that he has talked about
04:54
have been what has excited young people.
04:57
And he's used the medium that is natural to them, social media.
05:03
He is native to social media.
05:06
He understands how to use it and how to be himself on social media
05:10
in a way that's very compelling to people.
05:13
So that's why I think young people are really excited about this.
05:18
Well, much of the Democratic old guard is skeptical about Mondani.
05:22
Talk to us about the hesitation.
05:24
Why are they so skeptical of him?
05:28
You know, I think they're kind of stuck in the old world
05:31
and they're trying to quickly catch up now.
05:34
But it's pretty clear that Americans are closer to where Mondani is
05:40
than to where the folks who have been in office for the last 30 or 40 years are.
05:46
Democrats, the polling is clear, are really unhappy with how Senator Schumer
05:52
and the minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, have been leading in the Congress.
05:58
And Americans seem eager for change.
06:02
Well, isn't it time for the Democrats that are skeptical?
06:06
You know, there's been so much soul searching in the party since Donald Trump won last year.
06:12
Isn't it time for these Democrats to sort of get with the program
06:16
and actually learn from Mondani's very successful campaign so far?
06:20
Yeah, I think anybody who wants to be successful in politics would be foolish to write him off
06:29
as a one-off or as just someone who's able to succeed in a big city.
06:35
He's had such broad appeal.
06:38
Yes, he appeals to young people, but he wins most demographics of voters in New York City.
06:45
And America has always been a diverse place, and increasingly so.
06:50
He doesn't just appeal to ideological progressives.
06:55
You know, one of the things that helped him break through was he went and talked to people
06:58
who voted for Donald Trump about why they did that.
07:02
And that was one of the things that really made him into a contender.
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So he's showing a new style of politicking in America.
07:11
Somebody who listens, someone with a lot of energy, someone who's young and relatable.
07:16
And I think smart Democrats are taking notes.
07:20
Well, Mondani, much of his campaign has been about the cost of living in New York.
07:24
He's proposed universal childcare, rent-free, free bus travel and grocery shops run by the city.
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He's proposing paying for it by taxing the rich and corporations in New York.
07:37
How feasible are those plans?
07:39
I mean, some say that he'll bankrupt the city.
07:42
What do you think?
07:44
Yeah, so I actually think his plans are pretty realistic.
07:48
Depending on what Donald Trump does with New York's tax dollars,
07:53
President Trump could definitely cause some problems for Mondani.
07:57
But it was very telling to me that Governor Hochul of New York,
08:02
who would be a necessary partner for advancing most of his agenda,
08:07
she endorsed his most expensive proposal, which is universal childcare,
08:12
and said she sees a path to achieving it.
08:16
The rent freeze is something he can do unilaterally without needing anyone's approval or a tax hike.
08:25
And the free buses is something he's going to need to work on with the state legislature.
08:30
The grocery stores is a small pilot project that he's proposing that isn't expensive at all.
08:36
So I think his policy agenda is actually very realistic.
08:41
Well, as you mentioned there, Donald Trump has threatened to withhold federal funding from New York
08:46
if Mondani comes out on top.
08:48
How legally possible is that?
08:50
Does Donald Trump have the right to do that?
08:52
I think that Donald Trump is currently testing the boundaries of what he's legally able to do,
09:00
and we're going to have to see how both the Congress and the courts react to what he's doing,
09:06
because he is just grabbing power on a level that is unprecedented,
09:11
and the other branches of government are not reacting the way that they have in the past
09:16
to provide guardrails.
09:19
So I think it's unclear at the moment how that's going to turn out.
09:24
And of course, Mondani has very much embraced his Muslim faith.
09:27
He's been very vocal about the war in Gaza.
09:31
Talk to us about how much that has helped him in gaining support in the city.
09:35
What I think has really helped him is that he knows what it's like to be an immigrant.
09:42
He knows what it's like to be a member of a religious minority.
09:46
And New York, one of the great things about the city is how diverse it is,
09:51
how many immigrants come here, how many people are from immigrant families.
09:58
And so I think that that relatability has really helped him understand voters
10:04
and understand how to connect with them and what's important to them.
10:09
And it helps that it's a stark contrast with Andrew Cuomo,
10:15
who doesn't have that same lived experience as Mondani.
10:19
Laura, it was great to speak to you.
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Thank you so much for joining us on the program and giving us your thoughts.
10:25
Really great to have that breakdown from you.
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