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Police called to a domestic fight uncover deadly secrets hidden in the backyard. A family at war catches an innocent victim in the crossfire, and investigators must separate fact from fiction as a mom and daughter’s dark, twisted motives emerge.

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00:00Hi, Sally.
00:02It's me again.
00:03Wednesday afternoon.
00:05Four o'clock.
00:07Time to call you.
00:08It's kind of one of those unbelievable stories.
00:11They actually researched how to conduct a silent death.
00:16Hi, Sally.
00:18Where are you?
00:20It kind of hit me.
00:22These two might have planned this.
00:24When you step back from it, it's insane.
00:28Sally, where are you?
00:29Five o'clock.
00:30Where are you going?
00:32Greed, obsession, manipulation, dominance.
00:36There's a very evil seed at the beginning of this.
00:40I've got a problem with a neighbor over here and screaming from next door.
01:02Okay, what are they screaming?
01:04He said, what are you doing?
01:05What are you doing?
01:07It sounded like a shot.
01:08I didn't know if it was a gunshot or what, but it sounded like there's somebody in the house.
01:11He's got his little two-year-old daughter to them.
01:13I'm working through a whole range of emotions.
01:22I'm going to this potentially deadly call.
01:24You have to kind of think on the fly because you don't know who's there.
01:28You don't know what's going on.
01:29All you have is a call is a shot's fire.
01:32As we're listening to the radio, there's a male who's been seen going inside the house with his daughter.
01:38As a father, some of those things go through your mind of your family, your children, too.
01:44They're like, we have to find the child.
01:51When I arrive, I'm hearing the struggle and the fight and the thumping that's going on upstairs.
02:01I don't know what's upstairs.
02:05I'm going up expecting to get into a gunfight.
02:14I can see blood splatter everywhere, bullets laying on the floor.
02:22There's a taser of some sort, and it's just chaos.
02:27I see a male with his back to me and a female who is bleeding profusely from her head.
02:35The male has a police-issued expandable baton in his hand.
02:40This is a domestic violence situation.
02:43And he's the aggressor.
02:47The officers told the male to stop where he was.
02:51Unfortunately, he didn't stop where he was.
02:56At which point, he was tased by one of our officers.
02:58Once he was handcuffed, I still had to continue searching the hallways for the child and to make sure that we had no other victims.
03:12And then I can see down the hall and in the mirror, there was a reflection of a second female in the bedroom across the hall.
03:25It's a shock.
03:26When I got in there, she appeared fine, but these women are our victims.
03:33So I passed off the female to my cover unit.
03:36And then I continued down the hallway with another cover unit.
03:41And the two-year-old was just standing in the middle of the bathroom and crying, like tremendously crying.
03:53We need to get to the bottom of what's going on.
04:01We take the child and the females outside so they can get whatever medical attention they needed.
04:06We're able to identify the male suspect who was found in the hallway to be Eric Hill and the female to be Eric's wife, Rosa Hill, and her mom, May Lee.
04:22As deputies are escorting Eric out of the house to the rear of a patrol vehicle, his clothes were pulled in all sorts of directions.
04:31He was screaming as loud as he could.
04:37His face was red.
04:38He was sweating profusely.
04:41Rosa and May were standing on the sidewalk.
04:44And May had some injuries on her face.
04:46And they had the baby there with them.
04:51We determined that Eric Hill was living at the residence with his grandmother and his daughter.
04:59Eric and Rosa were going through a divorce.
05:01And there was a lot of custody battle issues between the two regarding their daughter.
05:15I met Eric in the mid-90s.
05:17We were working together at a toy store.
05:20He'd come out here to California from Missouri.
05:24And he was living with his grandma for the time being.
05:27People would maybe take Eric for being less than he really is.
05:33And they would think that he was just a simple person, nothing to him, just a nerdy guy.
05:40But he had a look like he was sort of curious of the things around him, but very careful.
05:48Probably a look that's a little bit predator and a little bit prey.
05:52This divorce was very bitter, very nasty.
05:58And Eric had endured a lot of hardship and a lot of pain.
06:02The man at that point was completely broken down.
06:06It was building up on him.
06:12He started having depression and anxiety, and they even had him on an antipsychotic at one point.
06:21That's where they really knew something was wrong.
06:24I could see that he was pretty tired.
06:29But when I heard about what happened, it blew my mind.
06:32I couldn't believe that.
06:38As I exited the house, Rosa and May were standing along that walkway with the baby.
06:44And they're kind of like lights on in no man's home, which is a physiological response that sometimes you can't control.
06:51May had some serious injuries, so we give her some medical treatment.
07:00Eric was in the back of a patrol vehicle in handcuffs.
07:04He was being frantic, and we're trying to sort out what happened.
07:07And then we learned some more details about his grandmother, Sally.
07:15As a 90-year-old, she doesn't drive.
07:18She doesn't go out for walks.
07:19She doesn't stray too far from the home, but she was nowhere to be found in the residence.
07:26For police, it's just as important to find Sally as it is to figure out what was going on between the three and the melee that police found at the Hill residence.
07:37With Sally missing, we think we might have something a lot bigger than what we just walked into.
07:42When Eric was working at Alameda County Social Services, he met this woman named May.
07:57She was a bit of a social butterfly.
08:00She'd go around the workplace, and people knew her.
08:03She was seen a lot, she was heard a lot, and she was well thought of.
08:07There was a hiking trip organized by May herself, and she invited Eric to go along.
08:18As luck would have it, May's daughter, Rosa, was on the trip, and they had a chance to meet each other and talk along the way.
08:27He seemed to like her, just from the offset.
08:32He liked her look, her energy, and that's where his fascination with Rosa began.
08:39Rosa was an engineer in Silicon Valley, and he was really taken with her very logical, very analytical mind.
08:46You know, it just all seemed to be folding around him, and since he didn't date a lot, it was just like, oh, this is, this is great, you know, this is wonderful.
08:57I had hoped it would be, too.
09:05Eric is still in the back of a patrol vehicle.
09:08We're talking to Rosa and May on the sidewalk.
09:12May was still bleeding from the face.
09:16They were withdrawn and not really sharing anything.
09:20Maybe it was because they had been assaulted, and they're trying to figure stuff out.
09:27But I realized that because these two individuals have not been detained, they haven't been searched.
09:36Rosa's asked if she has any weapons on her, and she says no.
09:40But to check all the boxes and to make sure that the baby's safe, there was a patch search that's done of Rosa.
09:51We find that she does have something sizable in her pocket.
09:55That's when the hair on the back of my neck really stood up.
10:01You've got to start asking more questions, right?
10:04When our world just started to change.
10:06The deputy reaches into Rosa's pocket and realizes it's a firearm.
10:23Your heightened sense of security goes way up.
10:26It's a handgun.
10:26But just having the handgun itself doesn't make her the aggressor, because maybe she was defending herself.
10:34We decided to do a path search on May.
10:37And she's found to be in possession of a stun gun.
10:49We have Rosa's mother, May, covered in blood.
10:52Eric attacking his own wife and mother-in-law.
10:55All three of them have weapons.
10:57And still, no one has seen Eric's grandmother, whose house is now a crime scene.
11:02The two-year-old baby is removed from the scene, and Eric and May are taken to the hospital for their injuries.
11:11We decide that we need to interview Rosa back at the police station.
11:25Okay, Rosa.
11:26Is Rosa correct?
11:27Yes.
11:27Okay.
11:28Rosa Lee.
11:28During the interview with Rosa, she says that she came to Sally's house to meet with Eric to talk about custody issues that they had with their child.
11:38It wasn't a divorce case, to start with.
11:42Right.
11:42He's been, um, he's went on psychiatric medication, so I asked him to go seek, you know, seek help.
11:50Was Eric there when you got there?
11:53No, he wasn't.
11:54What did you do when you got there?
11:56Um, when I got there, garage door on the side was open.
11:59So, I went in there, and I didn't see anybody.
12:11I saw Eric's car pulling in.
12:15I guess he came in the house with the baby, and then the baby ran upstairs.
12:21She said she was violently attacked by Eric in the house.
12:27He pushed me and landed on top, and he started spaying my head on the floor, and I thought I was about to pass out.
12:37And I think at that point, that's when my mom jumped in and tried to help me.
12:44Um, at one point, I saw a gun in his hand, and I was afraid that he was going to shoot me.
12:50And I guess somehow he dropped it, and I picked it up, and I must have put it in my pocket, because I don't remember how it was.
12:59What she is conveying lends credibility to being the victim.
13:04She appeared confident in her responses.
13:07But she was also very quiet, timid, scared of everything.
13:12It was almost as though she was watching this happen, and not really participating.
13:17I think she was dissociated with the entire situation.
13:27The first time I saw Eric with Rosa, Eric looked different.
13:32He had gone on a special diet, and he had lost a lot of weight.
13:40Never seen him look like that before.
13:43Whole nother new Eric, new look, new way about him.
13:46I was happy for him, but from the start, I was not real comfortable with the awkward silence that Rosa had.
13:55When I first met her, I would ask her questions or try to get to know her, you know, my son's girlfriend at the time.
14:04And she would whisper the answer in his ear.
14:08And finally I said, you know, I'm not asking Eric the question, I'm asking you the question.
14:14I don't know what it was, but it's very strange to me.
14:20Looking back on it, I recall the day that Eric invited me to attend his wedding.
14:26He had the look of a man who was kind of worried.
14:29It's a very unnatural sort of look.
14:31And I couldn't put my finger on it.
14:34I wasn't sure.
14:36It was something that did not seem right with this.
14:44After medical treatment, Mae didn't want to talk.
14:48She was calm.
14:50But she was uncooperative just by the way she didn't want to give us a statement, didn't want to clarify what had occurred.
14:57During the interview with Eric in the hospital, Eric was adamant that Sally didn't travel outside the house at all.
15:07She had no really mode of transportation to leave the house.
15:11So she should be there.
15:12She should be somewhere in the house.
15:16We did a secondary search of the residents, looking for where anybody could potentially be.
15:23We don't find anybody.
15:24So we went to the yard to see if we could find Sally or anything.
15:32Walking through the exterior of the house, there's a backpack just placed near a wheelbarrow.
15:39That just seems odd.
15:44It doesn't look like a backpack that Sally would be gardening with.
15:48The contents included rope, a crowbar, a knife, throwing star.
15:55My mind kind of went a little crazy on that one, trying to figure out, why is this here?
16:00What is this for?
16:01And who put it here?
16:04At the scene of this crime, we found two tasers, two stun guns, and two firearms.
16:11The amount of weapons and the type of weapons that were found were really astonishing.
16:18It is clear there is intent to harm that really escalates the need to find Sally.
16:27After their daughter was born, Rosa stopped working.
16:38And Eric was working two jobs.
16:41He was working his county job, and he's working another job at night at a drugstore.
16:46He was pushing himself constantly.
16:51He was so distracted by keeping up with this pace to try and work, and it was never enough.
16:59Rosa would leave, and she would go to her mother's house, May.
17:04As time went on, she was spending more and more time with her mother.
17:08The few times that I saw May and Rosa together, their energy was very tight and close together.
17:17They had this way about them, like it was them against the world.
17:21But at that point, I simply didn't see Eric at all.
17:25He was simply not available.
17:31It wasn't too much longer that the accusations were coming against Eric.
17:37Eric, so I would get a call from a policeman.
17:41Has Eric ever had psychiatric problems?
17:45Is he overly depressed?
17:48Is he on psych meds?
17:50We were all getting the same feeling about something is wrong here.
17:53So as we're gathering all this information, we have pretty much all the staff at Dublin Police there.
18:09Because we know that time is of the essence, and Sally still hasn't been found.
18:12Along the left side of the house, there was a shed, and it was locked.
18:21So initially, that wasn't searched.
18:24We walked by this location a couple different times.
18:39It's missing now, but it was right here.
18:42One of our detectives was able to look through a little bit of a crack on the top of the shed.
18:49And he could see a garbage can that was inside.
18:53My heart dropped.
18:56Our worst nightmares come to fruition.
19:00We could see a human foot.
19:01Once the coroner's office came out, we were able to remove the body from that garbage can.
19:23We take the sheets off, and we were able to confirm that's Sally.
19:31This poor woman lived over 90 years just to be discarded like trash.
19:39At that point, we were no longer dealing with an assault.
19:42It was clear that we were now dealing with murder.
19:50During the interview with Rosa, she's all over the place.
19:55Her timeline is changing.
19:57Her story continues to change.
19:58But one thing that doesn't change is that she's the victim in this.
20:01I remember me looking up, and I saw my mom with blood on her face.
20:09I might have grabbed a taser to try to stop him.
20:13I'm going to tell you something else.
20:15Sally's dead.
20:16She's been murdered.
20:19No kidding?
20:22That's your reaction to that?
20:24She's been murdered.
20:25And she's stuffed in a garbage can in the back of the house.
20:33She did not have any human response to it.
20:38No kidding.
20:40To learn that your grandmother-in-law is dead and not to show any emotion towards it,
20:45I mean, one would think that you would be beside yourself.
20:47It was almost as though she didn't know who Sally was.
20:52Sally had a boyfriend named Lester, and they had a routine.
21:21Every afternoon at 4 p.m., Lester would call Sally on the phone, and they would have cocktail hour.
21:29So on this particular evening, Les called at 4 o'clock, sharp, and Sally didn't pick up.
21:37Hi, Sally.
21:39Where are you?
21:40Keep quiet.
21:41Time to call you.
21:43He's not used to her not answering.
21:46She's consistently answering at 4 o'clock.
21:48He's starting to get a little bit more worried.
21:51Sally, where are you?
21:53Wake up.
21:555 o'clock.
21:57Lester's so concerned that he calls his son Jeff, and Jeff and his wife go over to Sally's house.
22:04They're waiting outside until they see Eric and his daughter arrive home.
22:20Wow.
22:22My name is Eric Hill, and I am the ex-husband of Rosa Hill.
22:32It was just a normal day at work.
22:35You know, I finished my job.
22:36I picked up my daughter.
22:38When I got home, I saw some people standing out in front of the house.
22:45That scared me, because I knew my grandmother was not in great health at this point.
22:51I was holding on to my daughter when I walked up the stairs.
22:54I went into my grandmother's room.
22:58I didn't see her.
23:00And then I heard a noise.
23:04And I turned around, and I saw May.
23:07And I'm like, what are you doing here?
23:09And where's my grandmother?
23:10And she's like, I don't know.
23:13Last I saw her, she was downstairs.
23:15I set my daughter down.
23:17I ran out into the hallway.
23:18And as I did that, Rosa ran out of our daughter's room and shot me with a taser gun.
23:29And then that moment, May hit me over the head with, like, a metal baton.
23:36And that's when I realized, oh, they're trying to kill me.
23:42Jeff and his wife are downstairs.
23:43They hear some screaming, and then they hear what sounds like a gunshot.
23:49They immediately run next door to the neighbor's house and call 911.
23:53Honey, where's the thing?
23:54And I've got a problem with a neighbor over here who's screaming from next door.
24:00My head is just down in the carpet.
24:03And I'm seeing blood just start to drip into the rug.
24:07And I could hear my daughter crying.
24:10I guess they locked her in a bathroom.
24:12I was able to get myself up enough that I could fight one of them.
24:16But then the other one would knock me down.
24:21May had the baton, and she was pushing it down on my throat.
24:24And so I'm basically trying to hold with my hands to keep from choking.
24:28I mean, Rosa had a handgun.
24:31She cocked it and was holding it into my chest.
24:36And then May was just pleasantly talking to me.
24:39Are you going to give up custody of the kid?
24:42Are you going to give up custody?
24:43And I was really, really scared.
24:45And it was like, you better answer me.
24:48She will kill you.
24:49And I didn't want to die.
24:52I relented.
24:56And, yeah, I told him I'd give up custody.
25:02It was about this moment that I heard the police car outside.
25:07Once we interview Eric, he admits to hitting May or Rosa to get them off of him.
25:20He doesn't call it back or soft-shoe it or make it to a point where he's trying to justify his actions.
25:28He's just saying what happened.
25:30At this point, the police were concerned about the fact that they had found these guns, that Eric had been injured,
25:39that neither Rosa nor May Lee had a connection, a legitimate connection to the home.
25:44They shouldn't have been there.
25:47It was just flipped.
25:50These two women become our suspects and our aggressors in this scenario.
25:54And Eric was really the one fighting for his life.
25:57Mother and daughter are now investigators' prime suspects in an assault and a homicide.
26:05Rosa and May were both put into custody.
26:07And now it was just up to us to prove that they killed Sally.
26:13There was a lot of unanswered questions that we had.
26:17We're really trying to wrap our heads around, why Sally?
26:20What did Sally do to them?
26:22Is she just an innocent bystander in this assault?
26:25Did she just get in the way?
26:27We knew there had to be some more evidence out there that told us more of the story.
26:38We're looking at timelines.
26:40We're looking at cell phone records.
26:41We're searching in residences for evidence.
26:44I did a search on May and Rosa to see if there was any residence that was not identified yet
26:50that they've been receiving mail at.
26:54We come across an additional address that looks like it belongs to May.
26:59And this address is in the city of Bruntwood.
27:05Just when you think the story can't get more bizarre, a secret location.
27:09And what cops are about to find is even crazier than anyone ever imagined.
27:13Once we got there, we knew we hit the jackpot.
27:18As we start to look around, we find things that were kind of weird.
27:32a punching bag, a pull-up bar.
27:38It seemed like there was some exercise regimen that they were following.
27:41We started looking even closer, and we find some items that are just mind-blowing.
27:48A samurai sword, definitely not something a normal household would keep just laying around the house.
28:07So this was also found at the Bruntwood residence.
28:12There are so many different options of weapons that they could potentially use.
28:15And I think they were looking maybe for the right one.
28:19You've got punching bags, swords, bows and arrows.
28:23When I saw the pictures, I had to laugh.
28:26The secret house looked like a military barrack.
28:29It appeared as though these women were getting ready for combat.
28:39A short while after my daughter was born,
28:42the home situation was really falling apart.
28:47Whenever I'd come home when Rosa was there,
28:49it almost always ended in a fight.
28:53She knew how to manipulate me.
28:55She knew how to, you know, push my buttons.
28:57So when my paycheck would come in,
29:00she would take the money out of the account and move it to other accounts,
29:03so I didn't have it.
29:04Finally, she wanted to separate,
29:09so she took our daughter and went to her parents' house.
29:13While I was at work, she changed the locks at our place.
29:17I wasn't able to get in,
29:19so I was out on the street.
29:20I was a mess.
29:24But luckily, my grandmother was willing to give me a place to stay.
29:30It was only later that I started thinking it was May.
29:33It was more orchestrating what was going on.
29:38I believe that the ultimate brains of the situation
29:41was the mother, May.
29:44She's the one that had first contact with Eric.
29:47She's the one that sized him up.
29:51She was the predator.
29:52Eric was the prey all along.
29:55I think it was a plan from the start.
29:59They wanted a child.
30:00They wanted a daughter, particularly.
30:02And once they got that,
30:06then things started to turn.
30:09He was just a tool.
30:11He was just a convenience
30:13for them to get what they wanted.
30:15I hate to say it,
30:17but I think that they probably looked at Eric
30:19as an over-glorified sperm donor.
30:28In addition to the weapons
30:30at the Bretwood home,
30:32we found a treasure trove of notes.
30:36To-do lists of how they needed to prepare
30:40for this event.
30:45There were references to revenge,
30:48lists of people that they believed did harm to them
30:51that should be dealt with.
30:54Specifically were listed Eric and Sally.
30:59We determined that more than one individual
31:01was responsible for writing those notes.
31:04they were attributable to both Rosa and to May.
31:11I don't know if it's stupid or arrogant
31:13to leave that much evidence laying around.
31:16They left a trail of breadcrumbs.
31:19I mean, it might have been just basically
31:21loathe of bread that they left for us.
31:22Sally's autopsy comes in
31:26and it reveals significant injuries.
31:32She had been tased.
31:35She had abrasions all over her body.
31:39She had head injuries.
31:41She had been asphyxiated.
31:43And the baton that we found on scene
31:48was likely utilized to choke her.
31:53And then we did DNA testing on a taser
31:56that was located in the upstairs hallway.
32:00On the bar with the tasers
32:02was the DNA of Sally.
32:07On the cover as the taser,
32:08the DNA was Rosa Hills.
32:13So it was clear
32:15that she was a part of Sally's attack
32:17and specifically
32:19the one who had tased Sally.
32:26It's kind of a eye-opening moment.
32:29You just kind of found that lone Easter egg
32:31that you've been looking for
32:32for a while, right?
32:43As our daughter was about to turn one,
32:47I wanted to see her on her birthday.
32:51Rosa just flat-up refused.
32:53That's when I got angry.
32:57I went and got a lawyer
32:58and started suing for custody.
33:01I wanted to see my kid
33:02and I wanted my kid to know who I was.
33:05Rosa was competitive
33:07and that became a challenge
33:08and then it became a fight
33:09and it was a big, ugly fight.
33:13She called the police
33:15and said that I was
33:16molesting our daughter.
33:21Rosa and Mae,
33:22they did everything they could
33:24to destroy Eric.
33:27Destroy his name,
33:28destroy his reputation.
33:30It was a real smear campaign.
33:31Rosa then told my job
33:35that I was becoming mentally unstable
33:38and was going to go in
33:40and shoot the place up.
33:43They suspended me from my job
33:44and then I got a call from the police
33:46that I was being investigated.
33:49They had pushed me to a point
33:50where, like, I was super exhausted.
33:52I could barely think straight.
33:54I was having psychotic breakdowns
33:56and I think the idea was
33:58that I was just going to
34:00die of a heart attack
34:01or just disappear.
34:04But as Rosa and I
34:06were going through
34:07the custody process,
34:08she was becoming argumentative
34:11and less cooperative.
34:13She couldn't keep her story
34:15straight over a long period of time
34:16and all these accusations
34:19against me that led to her
34:20ultimately being investigated.
34:23And when that report was submitted,
34:26the judge was really upset with her.
34:29So I ended up getting
34:31100% of the legal custody.
34:36Losing custody enraged Rosa.
34:40She felt that she was losing
34:42to this man
34:44who she saw as less than her.
34:47They became, both of them,
34:50obsessed with the notion
34:51of getting the kid back
34:52at all costs.
34:53And they wanted to cut
34:55Eric off from his daughter
34:57for all time.
35:03One of the things that we do
35:05when we do a search warrant
35:06is look for any electronics.
35:09We confiscated the computer
35:11that we found
35:11at the Brentwood home
35:12and did a forensic search.
35:16We were taken back
35:18by some of the keyword searches
35:19that we were able to find.
35:22How to murder
35:23and get away with it.
35:24How to break into a house.
35:26How to kill somebody quietly.
35:28Potions for poison.
35:30When you step back from it,
35:32it's insane.
35:34They both felt
35:35they were very smart people.
35:37Of course, we found out
35:37how not smart they were.
35:40Shot themselves in the foot
35:41big time.
35:43Given what they brought
35:44to the scene,
35:45the information
35:46that was contained
35:47in the notes
35:48and on those computers,
35:50a picture started
35:51to develop
35:51that both Rosa and May
35:53came up with
35:54what they called
35:55Operation Custody.
35:57This was a premeditated plan
35:59which required Sally to die.
36:06ATVU was at the scene tonight.
36:08Selma Hill's body
36:09was found stuffed
36:10into a garbage can
36:11at her Dublin home.
36:13Rosa Hill
36:13and her mother,
36:14May Lee,
36:15now face life sentences
36:16for the murder.
36:24While I'm in court,
36:26my nerves were
36:27just out of control.
36:29I was really scared
36:31about what would happen.
36:33I just remember
36:35seeing Rosa
36:36sitting at the table
36:38with a pad of paper
36:40and just frantically
36:41writing, writing, writing,
36:42writing, writing, writing, writing.
36:43And May's just
36:44sitting there smiling.
36:46The entire time,
36:47she's just sitting there smiling.
36:51I've never had a case
36:52where there's been
36:54so much evidence
36:55of premeditation.
36:57Operation Custody
36:59ultimately was a plan
37:00devised by Rosa
37:02and May Lee
37:02to get custody back.
37:06You couldn't script
37:07something like this.
37:08They were going to kill Sally
37:10and frame Eric
37:11for her murder.
37:12They were going to
37:14take Eric from the home
37:15in leg irons
37:17and handcuffs
37:18and take him
37:19to another location
37:20and force a confession
37:23out of him.
37:24A suicide note
37:25that said that
37:26he had killed
37:27his grandmother
37:27because she had
37:28confronted him
37:29with molesting the child.
37:32With Eric dead
37:33and the note left behind
37:34that he was a child molester,
37:35Rosa would be
37:36the only fit parent
37:37left to raise the child
37:38along with her mother.
37:40Who does this?
37:42Who thinks like this?
37:44This is disgusting
37:45and it's sick and twisted.
37:46It's hard to believe
37:51that this is real stuff
37:53that happened to me
37:54and I only knew
37:55half of it.
37:56I didn't even get
37:58to see how much
37:59crazier it was
38:00than what I experienced.
38:03An Alameda County judge
38:14today sentenced
38:15to mother and daughter
38:16to years in prison
38:17for killing
38:18a 91-year-old grandmother
38:19from Dublin.
38:33When they announced
38:39that verdict,
38:41Rosa looked angry
38:43and May did not
38:44change her demeanor.
38:46She had the same look,
38:47same smile.
38:48She did not change.
38:51So they were able
38:52to take mom out
38:53and dispose her
38:55in the garbage can
38:56upside down.
38:59It was horrible.
39:01I can hear my mom,
39:02I can hear her scream almost.
39:06I can hear what it would be like
39:09if she was screaming.
39:13The sweet little old lady
39:15who had nothing
39:17but love for them,
39:18welcomed them
39:19into her home,
39:20into her family,
39:22she didn't matter to them.
39:25She did not matter at all.
39:28You know,
39:28I often struggle
39:29with trying to figure out
39:30who was responsible
39:31for this plan.
39:33In the end,
39:33I figure it had
39:35to be both of them.
39:36That if there was
39:37just one person,
39:39then the other person
39:41would say,
39:41this is insane,
39:43we can't do this.
39:44But instead,
39:45we have this
39:45foie adieu,
39:46the madness of two.
39:48Nobody was discouraging,
39:50it was always encouraging.
39:52We'll Google together,
39:54we'll work out together,
39:55we'll go buy guns together,
39:56we'll do all these things together,
39:58and we'll kill together.
40:02I hope they never get out.
40:06I just think we're all fortunate
40:08to have had mom in our lives.
40:11I think we enjoy those memories
40:14and try to focus on the positive
40:17and remember the good times.
40:19I was so proud of him
40:24as a father.
40:26The way he took hold
40:27and had to go through all this.
40:31It's difficult being a single parent,
40:34but I did it.
40:36She's the motivation for me.
40:40She's also got an incredible sense of humor.
40:42And I do love to see her laugh,
40:48because I didn't for a long time.
40:52I just wanted her to know who I was.
40:55That's why I started trying
40:57to get some custody.
40:59And I don't regret that decision one bit.
41:04I just, you know,
41:05did what I had to do.
41:13This was a targeted execution.
41:16She flew way out of the realm
41:18of normalcy.
41:20There was rumors
41:21they were in an incestuous relationship.
41:23Instead of going to bed in our bed,
41:25he'd go to bed in her bed.
41:27It makes your mind explode.
41:29Shh!
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