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GQ sits in on a tête-à-tête between Men of the Year cover star Seth Rogen and GQ editor Zach Baron at the Chateau Marmont. Rogen talks about his recent Emmys sweep, after The Studio landed a freshman comedy record 13 wins at the 77th Primetime Emmy Awards—a stark contrast to the reception of Rogen’s controversial The Interview, which the Canadian actor also revisits.Credits:Director: Nick CollettDirector of Photography: AJ YoungEditor: Phil CeconiTalent: Seth RogenHost: Zach BaronProducer: Cara MarceanteSenior Producer: Michael BeckertCoordinating Producer: Sam DennisLine Producer: Jen SantosProduction Manager: James PipitoneProduction Coordinator: Elizabeth HymesTalent Booker: Dana MathewsCamera Operator: Shay Eberle-Gunst; Oliver LukacsGaffer: Lucas VilicichDIT: Lauren WoronaSound Mixer: Justin FoxProduction Assistant: Fernando Barajas; Hollie OrtizPost Production Supervisor: Jess DunnSupervising Editor: Rob LombardiAssistant Editor: Andy MorellSpecial Thanks: Chateau Marmont
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00:00One thing I've actually noticed is you'd like to start an interview like this one
00:04I think in reference to the fact that you're
00:07Generally a pretty happy and well-balanced guy by saying that you feel bad for the person interviewing you. Sometimes yeah
00:24Thank you, whoa
00:26Well, it's really hot i'm gonna start sweating i assume throughout this interview i'll let you guys work on a strategy for that
00:36Thank you
00:40This will be old news by the time people see this but i feel it will be helpful for people to understand the person they're about to meet
00:48Which is lord of the emmys
00:52That's what i call myself now um how do you feel right now invincible no
00:57Not at all crushing pressure
01:00Yeah, how long did it take for the feeling of crushing pressure to kick in maybe the next day i'd say the next day
01:06To be clear this is only the day after that exactly so yesterday yesterday is when the crushing pressure kicked in
01:12Are you surprised by that or that's very
01:14No, it's very on brand for me i'm not surprised at all
01:17What did it feel like to enjoy something for 24 hours it was great i was very happy i uh
01:22uh it was far beyond what i expected to happen you were
01:27Actually kind enough to have me on the set of the studio last summer and i when i was there
01:33This is obviously when you're making it a lot of people were kind of like
01:36I don't know if anyone's gonna care about this kind of like behind the scenes showbiz
01:42Thing is that ever a fear that you had
01:45I think i understand writing enough to understand that if it is my goal creatively i can take a what appears to be a very niche idea and
01:54turn it into a comedic concept that is
01:57understandable and
01:59uh you know fruitful for people who
02:02have nothing to do with the thing that i'm writing about or talking about you know and to me that's like a writing
02:08challenge and one that i think i'm up to you know and i grew up watching the larry sanders show i
02:14in high school i had nothing to do with hollywood i didn't understand the comings and goings of
02:19a talk show host and the
02:21Conundrums they face on a daily basis it couldn't have been further from my life but the show was written in such a way that
02:26The comedic concept of the episodes was clear and universal that was very deliberate and like a conversation
02:32We had a lot as we were writing the show but was something that i
02:36Felt confident we could
02:38Overcome did you have any trouble selling the show?
02:41No
02:43I did hear you serve i don't know if you were joking or
02:46Telling the truth saying that like for instance hbo wouldn't even hear your pitch hbo did not hear the pitch for the show why not
02:53I think because maybe they
02:55Projected it was too similar to hacks or something like that or they the franchise maybe also was coming out
03:01They had already made that so maybe they thought they had too many
03:04Like things about hollywood or something like that
03:06Yeah, but your answer was not at all trouble selling it, right?
03:10That's what you said
03:10And because also like we really over deliver like I understand how hard it is to sell something and I don't take it for granted
03:17I know major stars who've gone out with television shows and not been able to sell them and so
03:22We came up with an incredibly thorough pitch. We attached
03:27A lot of the actors who were in the show beforehand
03:31We knew I wasn't enough probably so we had captain o'hara and we had ike and that helped you know
03:36For sure contrary to the fears of people who are working on the show
03:39It comes out and is basically immediately successful. Are you surprised at all?
03:43Well, I'm always surprised when anything we make is is received in the way I want it to be
03:47It's a surprise as much as not something I necessarily expect and so when it happens. I'm very happy
03:53So it wasn't just audiences is the quote-unquote town
03:56Turns out to love it too. Yeah, for the most part
04:00Well, I mean again
04:02That was sort of my question is like that maybe I don't know. What did you expect there?
04:07I was actually quite worried about that because like when you make a thing
04:09That's about a very specific industry that industry historically is going to be very critical of it and very hard on it
04:15And hold it up against their own lens of their own standards of reality, I guess and so
04:20That was something
04:22That I for sure was worried about and was actively stressed about at times was
04:27You know the show is really supposed to be a love letter in many ways to hollywood and and to really
04:32Honor certain minutiae of the business while at the same time being critical of other aspects of it
04:39But I did feel as though
04:41My peers and the people I respected and the people I specifically wanted to like the show and and would have it speak to them
04:47I was aware they would probably at least check it out because it's about their industry much more than a lot of things
04:53I make I make a lot of things where steven spielberg's not going to watch this
04:56But this was a thing where I'm like, oh, no, I feel like these people who I really look up to will probably at least check it out
05:03And so that was something that yes really kept me up at night a few a few a few weeks
05:08I would say just knowing that my target audience was everyone
05:11But the people I I really thought would actually watch the show at least out of curiosity were the people that I most respect and the most
05:19You know craving their their validation
05:22Well, it could have been on the show the way where it's like you you guys in some ways. It's a loving
05:29Skewering of the town, but it's it's a portrayal of an industry
05:34Driven by fear. Yeah
05:36Uh crushing the souls of artists
05:38Yeah, yeah, yeah
05:38Um and the reaction from all the people who are doing exactly that was like fuck. Yeah
05:44Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. Yeah
05:46You really saw us man. It's true. It really is true
05:50And it's funny because I think people outside the industry think it's very exaggerated and people in the industry think
05:55It's very real and that I think shows how heightened the industry is and how
06:01Unhinged it is behind the scenes even in comparison to how people
06:05Project it might be but we obviously bring things to pretty comedic climaxes
06:10I would say that maybe have a step outside of of day-to-day realities of the industry
06:15But did the general plots and conundrums and and conflicts are very much based on real things
06:21Yeah, one thing I've actually noticed is you'd like to start an interview like this one
06:26I think in reference to the fact that you're
06:29Generally a pretty happy and well-balanced guy by saying that you feel bad for the person
06:34Interviewing you sometimes yeah
06:36What is your level of concern for me right now at this point?
06:39I've given up on trying to be specifically interesting and so I've I I don't expect much of myself in these situations
06:45So not I assume people get understand what they're getting at this point
06:50I feel like if I was better at like coming across
06:53And these types of things I wouldn't I wouldn't be a writer
06:57I wouldn't I wouldn't need other ways to express myself
06:59Well, I always understood it to be that effectively that you are without conflict that in other words like that there was no
07:06Deep psychological probing to be done because you were so happy and well-balanced. No, if anything
07:11I'm like too savvy to reveal it in these situations
07:16I'm not that disturbed, but the things that do bother me. I don't I don't this is not where I'll talk about it
07:22You mean in an interview in front of two cameras. Yes, exactly
07:26I can't imagine why
07:28You would feel that way, but from a distance you do look quite
07:31Well-adjusted yeah on the grand scale of people in in our industry. I'd say i'm pretty
07:37Pretty well-adjusted. Yeah, do you think that that is?
07:41Because you've been successful or do you think you've actually been successful because you are that way?
07:46I don't think either necessarily honestly
07:48I think I know a lot of very unwell-adjusted people who are successful both before and after their their success
07:55So I think my relative well-adjustedness has probably contributed to my success in some ways
08:02I think I'd probably also be less well-adjusted if I felt a lot of resentment towards
08:07My career was there ever a moment that you felt resentment toward your career?
08:11Oh, yes many times mostly before
08:16Before like we were able to make the movies that we were making and I was writing the movies and no one was making them
08:22I felt yeah, I was pretty I mean I was young
08:25So I think a lot of young people are angry, but I was I was pretty young and angry
08:29Yeah, super bad pineapple express. Yeah, I wasn't like rageful. I was sort of resentful. You know what I mean?
08:36Those movies in fact were critically successful commercially successful. Yes, that made me much happier
08:43It helped a lot. Do you attribute that to luck or do you attribute that to just like
08:49They were good and they work because they were supposed to work
08:51I think luck has a lot to do with it like the timing was
08:54In our favor like the climate the movie going climate was in our favor the
09:00types of risks
09:02Studios were making at that time the the mentality that went into making movies was very different than than it is now if I was just born
09:1015 years later like my you know
09:13Things could have gone very differently just because of timing. I was thinking that at a distance
09:18Looking at your career. It's like with maybe one very notable exception
09:23It feels uncommonly frictionless for a Hollywood career. It's like kind of like yeah that worked and that also worked and
09:34Uh, I mean, it doesn't feel that way necessarily. Yeah, like I feel like my first few years were much were kind of frictionless and then
09:43From 2008 on I would say I had a lot of like hits and misses, you know, and it's it's almost all work
09:49I'm very proud of but I
09:52Made a lot of things that like
09:54Did not connect with audiences at all and did not do well
09:58In the box office at all and did not do well critically at all and so for me it was a much it feels much more like
10:04Yeah, and I do attribute to luck because I was always working
10:06So like by the time a thing came out I was kind of two projects in the future and so I
10:11was never really
10:13Deeply existentially concerned that like my whole career might come crashing down
10:18Uh, maybe after the interview I was a little bit but other than that I've
10:22Kind of felt like I was
10:24Within the margin of error enough to at least keep going, you know
10:28That was the exception I mentioned
10:30Uh, interview, but even that is like what a cool exception like uh
10:34Interesting. Yeah, you almost started a war. I mean, it's not like a boring pretty good. It's a really interesting
10:39Yeah, it was it's it's something it was like a real memorable thing
10:46It wasn't one of those things that just went under the radar
10:48Have you like resolved your feelings about that episode in your in your heart and soul?
10:53It's not a thing I think about that often anymore
10:55So I guess I'm like pretty like at peace with it because it's not something that like
10:59Is an active part of my
11:02Contemplations, you know what I mean? I still don't know for sure if I know like exactly what happened necessarily and
11:09Exactly who did what and exactly exact series of events that kind of transpired
11:15I feel still as though maybe like
11:17That truth is a little elusive to me at times and I kind of go back and forth on what it might be
11:22But who actually did that I don't know
11:26probably north korea, but maybe with
11:28In league with people in america perhaps resentful employees
11:32from the sony corporation is something that
11:35Is a prevailing theory that's been out there as well
11:38um
11:39So I don't know I feel as though north korea definitely had something to do with it, but I don't know
11:44if
11:45American people also had something to do with it
11:48You're
11:49Currently in an interesting
11:51Phase of the studio where among other things what you're doing on that show
11:56Is recreating stuff that in some ways you've actually experienced yes for sure is the interview on the list of things
12:03That could potentially make it onto the studio?
12:06It's sort of more interesting to examine things that are sort of like ubiquitous in in film and
12:11In the movie industry or if not ubiquitous like at least things that have happened
12:15More than me, you know what I mean?
12:18And the interview is such a unique specific thing that that really only happened to me and so
12:23I think
12:24You know the feelings associated with it public embarrassment things like that
12:28I think that's stuff we would be interested in looking at and things we have looked at in the show
12:32But I think the the specifics of getting hacked by like a foreign power is maybe a little too
12:40Yeah to me
12:40Yeah a little too leo pointed at the screen
12:42Exactly yeah exactly
12:44Have there been anything that you've sort of revisited on that show that was like particularly surreal or interesting to be like
12:50I'm like revisiting this
12:52Doing the fake golden globes was really surreal because it really it really felt like we were just like living at the golden globes for a week
12:59And it was in the place where they shoot the golden globes and everyone's in black tie and
13:04Every day we had so many cameos there
13:06So just like the real golden globes you're running into so many other people that you're a fan of and three was like populated by
13:13People in the industry and then we presented at the actual golden globes me and Catherine o'hara the whole time
13:18We were there we were like this is so weird like it feels in a way
13:20It feels less real than our golden globes that that we put on just for fun
13:25Have you taken the opportunity to rewrite history yet to be like?
13:28Oh, this would be better if it went if it went this way no if anything
13:31We make things worse than they are in real life on the show. It's obviously a very personal show
13:36Yeah, but it's not always obvious to me like where you are
13:40In it where can we find you in in that show?
13:43Man way more than i'd like to admit I think the character is really based on me my character and really based on my own
13:51fears and anxieties and
13:54And and we we sort of exaggerate them and we apply them to a job that is not my main job
13:59But is a job that I really
14:01relate to because like I run a
14:04production company with a few other people and we
14:06choose
14:08in some ways which movies get made and which ones don't and which actors we hire and which ones don't and
14:12what notes we give and which ones we don't and
14:15I'm constantly dealing with the things my character is dealing with and being afraid that i'm letting down
14:21People that i'm a big fan of and being afraid that i am not a part of the team and the way that i
14:26Want to be a part of the team and being afraid i'm making the wrong choices as to which movies i'm getting behind and which ones i'm
14:33Not and like making these choices for the right reasons. I mean that's all
14:38That's all based on my own fears, you know
14:41How often do you feel like the villain in those real life point gray point gray the name of your production company?
14:47Uh interactions regularly
14:50I would say not all the time, but but but enough that it's that it's a thing. Yeah
14:55kool-aid man teenage mutant ninja turtles exactly the superior ip
15:00Who can say yeah and like that is very much yeah based on like
15:04You know our understanding that if we wanted to make
15:07theatrical movies we would behoove to
15:10Pedal in ip, you know
15:12And to find one that we found that we thought we could elevate in some way and that we could make
15:18I don't know if we made the fancy ninja turtles movie
15:20But we tried to make the good ninja turtles movie and and and it was those conversations that very much inspired
15:26The show itself and the desire to kind of combine
15:30Art with like pragmatism when it comes to what actually will get
15:35Financed and what won't you actually like work in this industry as you said as an executive as a producer
15:40I mean, it's like 2025 like how how fucked is this business?
15:45The answer is I don't know like I think of the end like the truth is I don't know
15:48Like many people have very bleak views of the industry
15:51It's hard for me to have too bleak a view of the industry
15:54I'm on two television shows and I'm very proud of I
15:58You know, I'm able to make movies that are in theaters and ninja turtles a good example
16:02It's based on ip we made the exact movie we wanted to make
16:05We took like some huge creative swings and it did very well and got very good reviews
16:09So it's like hard for me to look at that and be like
16:12Cynical about that experience like I think for me personally
16:15I'm in a very unique part of the industry, but I am trying to speak to that experience as someone who
16:20Kind of does see the
16:23The kind of light at the end of the tunnel, you know and and is constantly working towards it
16:29But you know if I ran a movie studio, I would probably have a much different view
16:34If I was responsible for like billions of dollars in revenue every year and and and and if the
16:40Seismic shifts in the industry were really affecting my like
16:46Entire business strategy, then that would be
16:50A much scarier place to be I would imagine for me
16:52It's it is much easier to stay the course and to just keep making things I think are good the day that I visited the set
16:59You guys were shooting
17:01Episode where your character is in relationship with Rebecca hall. Yeah, and he doesn't feel respected by the doctors
17:07And you fall down and you break your pinky. Yeah, you must have done
17:1225 takes probably yeah of like beholding your broken pinky
17:18All of them were different. All of them were extremely funny and good
17:22Um, like what can you describe to me like how and what you're doing there?
17:25Not necessarily I mean often there's technical things that make us have to do a lot of takes
17:31You know the way we shoot the show like a million things have to come together in order to make the scene
17:37Work sometimes the acting is is good and the performance is good
17:40But something else went wrong and so we have to do it again, you know what I mean and often
17:45You'll get a few takes and you'll be like, okay
17:47That seems to give us enough
17:49To get to the editing room and then put together the thing that we need to put together
17:53There's a real convergence of things that have to go right in order for us to move on from shooting a particular scene and so
18:01Something like that. I just imagine that like it was probably a combination of like my own performance
18:06Not being what it needed to be and and a million other things
18:10Not being what they need to be and then eventually we get one that's good
18:14It's usually around take 16 and then
18:17Once it's good you want to keep going you try to get a few good ones and then for sure the wave
18:22Crests and you feel them getting worse and worse and worse
18:26And then you always end on like a down note my directing partner evit also gives me a lot of very specific direction
18:31Especially with physical stuff like that. So like I could project he was like
18:35You're not processing it. You got to wait a second longer of seeing it and then it took us a while
18:40I remember like me fixing my glasses was kind of the thing that like made me notice it
18:44Like people get these things with their head and then you you work really hard to like get to the thing that you picture
18:50You
18:51Just mentioned evan goldberg your friend producing partner co-writer co-director. What do you get out of running a
19:00Like point gray, right?
19:02You're a you're a successful actor successful writer. You don't you don't kind of need to be
19:07An executive you know, I'm saying yeah, and yet this is something that you spend a lot of time doing i'm curious about why
19:14I mean it really started like self-preservationally like it started because we were making our own starting to make our own movies or wanting to make our own movies and
19:23saw from working with judd
19:24apatow like
19:27What all the benefits you get from being the producer of your own films all of a sudden you?
19:32Get a say in things that you just don't aren't invited to to the conversation
19:37And if if you're if you're not a producer on the films and so
19:41It became clear that me and evan just didn't have the bandwidth to like make all the stuff that we were fans of and now a lot
19:46of what you do lives under that umbrella
19:49Occasionally you'll go outside of it and you'll do i'm thinking of something like this is actually a while ago
19:54But the you know danny boyle sees jobs movie yeah or more recently
19:57mentioned steven spielberg you do the fablement yeah when do you decide to kind of be like all right
20:01I'm i'm stepping out of my own universe and i'll just go take a a part
20:06Sometimes a dramatic part in someone else's movie
20:08Yeah, I mean it's not like i'm getting offered tons of these movies that i'm turning down like
20:12I get offered one every five or six years and then i'm in it
20:16You're seeing pretty much all the is that true yeah
20:19Like you're you're seeing all the big fancy. I mean I get offered some parts in other movies, but not like that
20:24I'm not like turning down david fincher movies, you know to go produce blockers like I you know
20:31I'm doing the ones that I get offered that seem worth doing. I found myself wondering why
20:37When you go back to your sandbox, it's almost always sandbox
20:40I should say when you go back to your sandbox
20:43It's almost always
20:45Comedy
20:45It's something i think i'm good at and so i enjoy doing it and it's something that i think i have like a very specific
20:51perspective on and it's something that i
20:54Came up very focused on and so now that i've been doing it a very long time
20:59I feel like I have
21:00Kind of even more perspective and kind of control over it in a lot of ways to me
21:05It's more fun and more challenging in a lot of ways honestly yeah for sure there's few things people want to do less than
21:13Proclaim that they are trying to be funny people are just very uncomfortable doing that and I think a lot of filmmakers
21:18Are are very uncomfortable stepping into those waters and I don't view dramatic things as harder or more meaningful
21:27Or you know things that people are taking more seriously as they're making them or putting more thought into them as they're making them to make a great comedy is
21:36Is is making a great drama, but then also making it funny, which is
21:41harder, you know, and so
21:44I view making a great comedy honestly as much harder than making a great drama and to me that challenge is exciting and and something that i
21:53you know really
21:55try to
21:56push myself on and try to do different versions of but it's something that i
22:02View is like a very worthy thing of spending my time, you know pursuing, you know
22:06That makes me think of um good fortune the yeah aziz movie that you're in
22:10Um, which is kind of what you're saying where it's it's a funny movie
22:13But it it's also a dramatic movie has like real stuff to say which I don't even think necessarily like
22:18Like like I don't know if the studio has real stuff to say
22:21But to me it's one of the most challenging things i've ever done
22:23And I don't even I don't even think like meaning is necessarily
22:29Something that to me takes
22:32More skill to imbue something with than something without an inherent deep meaning but is that but is incredibly entertaining and gratifying to watch
22:41You know what I mean?
22:42I mean honestly like I look at like jackie chan and buster keaton and people like that as like the people that
22:47Have made comedy that have like really stood the test of time and and to me that's like
22:52Far more impressive and specific than a lot of things that are
22:58More quote-unquote meaningful. I guess you know
23:00To just make a meaningful movie to me is again so much easier to do than to make a meaningful movie
23:05That also is makes a theater full of people laugh right which is what I was saying about good fortune
23:10I think it is that that it is a good it is a good combination of the two yeah you and evan i'm curious
23:16How did you become the actor and he became the behind the scenes guy based on desire like really?
23:22It's funny because when we were young and we made like little movies like with a video camera
23:26Like he would be the one on camera and I was the one like
23:30Shooting them basically. I was inherently more interested in performing always I think from a young age. I took acting classes as a kid I
23:37Did stand-up comedy for me performing was a part of the creative expression that I was interested in and for him performing was just
23:45Not a part of the creative expression. He was interested in and which worked out very well for us because I think
23:50The fact that he has no interest in doing
23:53That part of the job and there's no resentment or jealousy. There's none of him that wishes he was getting this attention that i'm getting and if anything
23:59He like rejoices in days like today where i'm
24:03Taking pictures and doing interviews and he's sitting at home with his family like that to him is like a very great trade-off
24:09And so what about for you? I like it as well. I think it works out well for both of us. I mean you enjoy the attention
24:14I wouldn't say I enjoy the attention. I think I enjoy I enjoy performing and I enjoy bringing my work to life and and I enjoy
24:22Getting to bring my work to life
24:25Especially and I enjoy getting to be funny and I enjoy working with funny people
24:29We need to perform funny scenes with people
24:30I think are funny and I enjoy feeling as though i'm really executing something
24:36In the way that I hoped it would be executed and if I could do all that and
24:41Not be a famous person. I would for sure still do it. It's not
24:45Being recognizable and getting a lot of attention is like a very fair trade-off in a lot of ways, but it's still a trade-off
24:51Yeah, I
24:52I would also be happy if if I was not getting a ton of
24:56Attention but was still able to do the work that I do which I understand is
25:01Not and not an existent
25:03Dynamic but one that I would be okay with
25:06You like to joke that I don't know if it's joke. Maybe it's real. You never had a real job
25:12Not really. No, you were what 16 17 kind of writing for for Judd
25:18Yeah, like I was a writer on
25:21Undeclared
25:22When I was 18. Did that feel normal were you like aware like that's a little bit different?
25:26No, I knew it was very weird
25:28I was very aware that I was probably the youngest person to write on and act on a network
25:33television show like it was not and ever I just yeah
25:37I had enough perspective to see like everyone I was with was older, you know
25:41I shared off with Nick Stoller who was only
25:45Maybe four or five years older than I am
25:46But even that the difference between 18 and 23 is is significant, you know, especially at that age
25:52It wasn't lost on me that I was
25:54Doing something that was generally not for people my age. Did it feel sustainable?
25:59Like you were you like this is gonna like is it gonna keep going? I really hope so
26:03Yeah, I I wasn't sure and I was unemployed for many years that suggested perhaps it would not keep going
26:10But I felt like I had like a unique comedic
26:13Perspective and a very specific comedic
26:17Perspective and I was working with a lot of people and around a lot of people
26:22Some of whom had that and some of whom didn't and I could recognize that I was probably
26:29In a better position to succeed because I
26:32Had that a lot of people
26:34In your industry who are successful young later have a period of time where they
26:40I don't know if they regret it or they pretend to regret it later on
26:43But a period of sort of excess because they're because you're young and successful. Yeah, did that ever
26:49Happen for you? Not really. No, not in like a meaningful way. I was too busy working
26:56And I started dating my wife, you know in 2004 like right as I was getting
27:01You know before any of the movies I was in had come out
27:04And so I was also I've been in like a very stable relationship throughout my entire
27:08Journey of becoming a much more recognizable person and and so I think that that also really helped stabilize me in a lot of ways
27:16You know when you look back now are there?
27:20Movies projects you're particularly proud of
27:23Yeah, lots of them like I mean a lot of them. I'm really proud of super bad
27:28I'm proud that we made that movie and that it's
27:31Based on like my friends and that I wrote it with my friend and and that's you know, it turned out
27:38Really is better than we hoped it would and and that people still like it and I see
27:43Teenagers in McLovin t-shirts and
27:45And to me the fact that it's like stood any test of time which
27:49I'm very aware comedy is not necessarily like even designed to do that
27:54I mean a lot of pineapple express this is the end
27:55I'm proud of a ton of the movies
27:57Are there are there ones that you
27:59Regret or would like to have had another shot at?
28:02Some confer reasons completely outside of my control didn't turn out as well as
28:08Maybe I hope they would I think it's more the ones that
28:11Were within my control that didn't turn out as well as what's an example of that. I don't like to
28:17Besmirch my own movies because there's people who really liked them and that's what I've learned over the years
28:20I think the interview for example like could have used a
28:24Maybe another set comedy piece in the second half of the second act that could have bolstered the the comedy in some ways
28:31Like it could have changed everything
28:32Yeah, exactly and it's so funny because like that's my perspective on it is like everything that went wrong with this movie
28:38I'm like we could have used another set piece around page 70, you know
28:41I just feel like I have a better understanding now of like what a comedy film needs in order to really
28:47Delight an audience in the way that I I want to you know when I look at that more as like
28:53Something that I creatively miscalculated a little bit same with green hornet
28:57I mean that was just there was a million things that kind of went off the rails there and
29:01um
29:02I think agreeing to make a movie with like so many specific limitations was probably
29:07You know, we were sort of entering a situation that was not ideal from the the outset which is something that i've
29:13I think since learned how to
29:15Get much better at navigating, but that's the thing I look at and think like oh if we maybe were allowed to do this and that and this
29:22We could have delivered more on what we're good at than what we ultimately did, you know
29:26How often do people tell you no at this point?
29:29All the time. Yeah, yeah, we've been rejected this week
29:33Maybe not this week last week. Yeah, I was about to say this week
29:37It's only Tuesday. Seth Rogen. Thank you for your time. Thank you. That was great. We didn't get too sweaty. Appreciate it
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