- 3 days ago
A great morning for Tobin's everywhere! The Miami Heat defeated the Los Angeles Clippers 120 to 119, Bam Adebayo finished with 25 points and 10 rebounds. Tobin takes advantage to lie and flip flop about Andrew Wiggins and his performance. Was Miami Dolphins Linebacker Bradley Chubb traded? Leroy is bothered by Tobin's lack of care with money.
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00:00Dude, did you see that game last night?
00:02Why are you looking at me like that?
00:04You know he was dead asleep.
00:06What time did it start?
00:0710.40?
00:0910.40.
00:10Really?
00:11Late.
00:12Really?
00:12Late.
00:13Really, you asking me?
00:15Maybe you couldn't sleep.
00:16I don't know, dude.
00:18Vlad, did you watch that game last night?
00:19Too late?
00:20I did.
00:20Yeah, it was good, right?
00:22Let me tell you, there was some good West Coast action last night,
00:24and that was a hell of a third quarter.
00:27Your boy, Pele.
00:28Man, what a dog.
00:30I mean, Pele Larson, he's something.
00:33He is.
00:34He's out here.
00:34He's hounding folks left and right.
00:37He's diving on the floor.
00:42Intangibles!
00:44Oh, that was heavy intangible.
00:45Dude, that was intangibles cranked to the fullest.
00:48The greatest seven-point performance you've ever seen from Pele Larson.
00:51It really was.
00:52I'm not even joking.
00:52That's not a bit.
00:53I don't know if it was the greatest, but it was a very impactful seven points.
00:56He was all over them, dude.
00:59I mean, I really just, I love watching him play.
01:02This team, they defended like great.
01:04Because, again, first, very great game.
01:06Let's just say that.
01:07Great game.
01:08Great back and forth between the Clippers.
01:10Squeaky cheeks at the end.
01:12I was like, I thought the rest were trying to hose us, dude.
01:15They were.
01:16I have some thoughts about this game.
01:20Do tell.
01:22Leroy?
01:23Yes.
01:23You know, I just made fun of you being old.
01:26Why?
01:28Because you're older.
01:30Yeah.
01:31I'm going to have to make, this is not making fun.
01:34This is, this is, this is facts.
01:39Chris Paul needs to retire.
01:41Oh, man.
01:42Drew Smith was abusing Chris Paul.
01:48Right, Drew Smith, right?
01:49Yeah.
01:50Abusing him.
01:51Like, make, like, he was doing the tap dance.
01:55He was wearing, he looked like he had tap dance shoes instead of sneakers.
01:57Like, he went up to him and said, I'm on the banana boat now.
02:00Oh, my God.
02:01He's very old.
02:03He is.
02:03He did have a big three at one point.
02:05But that was it.
02:06That was it.
02:06That was it.
02:07That was his, that was his lone, lone thing.
02:09And Kawhi Leonard, how many times are you going to go to that shot over and over?
02:13I'm very scared when he goes to that shot.
02:14When he goes to that shot.
02:15He had that one that was reminiscent of the playoffs a couple of years ago.
02:19That's what I'm talking about.
02:20Oh, my God.
02:21That was so scary.
02:22And then, and then the refs, Zubach, mauls Norman Powell.
02:27And they're just like, jump ball.
02:29And I'm just like, oh, here we go.
02:31So, of course, he wins the jump ball.
02:33He's seven foot.
02:34And bam, keep shooting.
02:35Oh, what, dude?
02:38You were right.
02:39You were right a year ago.
02:39You were right a year ago.
02:41What a game by him.
02:43What a game.
02:44What a season it's been by Bam Adebayo.
02:46What a season it's been by Bam Adebayo.
02:49I'm not going to toot my own horn, but I have been called for this for two years.
02:53What have you been calling for him to shoot the three more?
02:56For two years, right?
02:59And what did I say?
03:01He's going to grow into his own kind of like Siakam.
03:05He may be better at shooting, but the same type of play.
03:09He had an extra day to be on time.
03:14Let's see that.
03:15That's 10.07 with an extra day off.
03:17Single digits.
03:17That's not bad.
03:18That's not bad.
03:19It's usually 0-9.
03:20So, it's two minutes early.
03:21Double digits.
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03:30Bam yesterday.
03:31Heat win 120-119.
03:3325-10 yesterday from the captain, Bam Adebayo, who absolutely took Zubac's lunch money.
03:41I mean, it really was embarrassing for him.
03:42But then...
03:43Just run around him.
03:44Who does what he does?
03:46You know, he's out there three straight...
03:49This is his road trip.
03:51Your main assignment.
03:52Victor Wimbanyama, Luka Doncic, and then, hey, by the end, why don't you shut down James Harden?
03:58And it's just like, who can do that?
04:01Like, let's be real about it.
04:02I mean, not many people can do that in the league.
04:05It's very, very impressive what he's able to do.
04:07Wait, wait, wait.
04:08What are you saying?
04:09Guard or shut down?
04:10Because there was no shutting down yesterday.
04:12When it came down to the end, shut down James Harden.
04:16James Harden was cooking at that end, that last possession.
04:19He hit a three.
04:20He hit a three.
04:21Not on Bam.
04:23He hit a three.
04:24Dude.
04:25Bam gets the bucket.
04:27Comes back.
04:28James Harden's, like, trying to get by Bam out of buyout, and he fumbles the ball right
04:32to Norm Powell.
04:32No, no, no.
04:32He turned the ball six times.
04:33Completely swung the game.
04:34He turned the ball six times.
04:35He completely swung the game.
04:36Right.
04:37Like, you throw him...
04:38He's done that.
04:38He did that to Jalen Brunson, too, this year.
04:41And also, by the way, he's going to have to go guard Joker.
04:44Like, I'm serious.
04:45Who does this?
04:45And you're expected to go put up, you know, big scoring for your team.
04:49There's not many guys like that in the league.
04:51Hope he doesn't wear out.
04:52I don't think...
04:53He looks like he's...
04:54He looks fresh as a daisy.
04:56He is loving this team.
04:58I think he likes this offense.
05:00He likes that he can shoot.
05:01He can't go home without putting up numbers, bro.
05:05Yeah.
05:06Yeah.
05:06High standards.
05:07I don't think he has to wait till home.
05:10I think she's on the trips.
05:12Yeah, he's in the West Coast.
05:13Yeah, probably.
05:13Well, you can't go back to the room if you're not putting up big numbers.
05:17Mm-mm.
05:18Mm-mm.
05:19And Wiggins.
05:20Wow.
05:20Oh, wait a minute.
05:21What a guy.
05:22All of a sudden?
05:23What a guy.
05:24You know?
05:24What a gem of a man this Andrew Wiggins is.
05:27He's team player.
05:28B.S.
05:29Team player.
05:30Give yourself a minus one.
05:31I'm not giving up.
05:32Well, what a woman.
05:32For what?
05:33For what?
05:33For fraudulent.
05:33For what?
05:34I'm going to tell you about it.
05:34For fraudulent.
05:36Comfortable Andrew Wiggins is dangerous.
05:37Oh, now he's comfortable.
05:38Comfortable.
05:39Yes.
05:40Comfortable Andrew Wiggins.
05:40How many times did you call him a bum?
05:42Well, bum is strong.
05:43I don't think I've ever called him a bum.
05:44What did you call him?
05:45Minus one.
05:46Unhappy.
05:48Okay.
05:48Let me ask you this.
05:49Up until that second half, what were you calling him?
05:52Oh, I didn't really have any feelings into the second half.
05:54No.
05:55In the first half, what were your feelings?
05:57I didn't have any feelings.
05:58It was a close game in the first half.
05:59But he only had five points.
06:01That's okay.
06:02I wasn't really.
06:03I don't.
06:03That's the beauty of Andrew Wiggins.
06:05You know?
06:05He kind of just.
06:06And then when he's there, you're like, oh.
06:08Did a great job on Kawhi.
06:10Great job.
06:11Clutch threes.
06:13What a guy.
06:14Do you understand that there needs to be a different level of honesty amongst us?
06:23I am being honest.
06:24What you're saying about Andrew Wiggins on this day.
06:29Oh, what a guy.
06:30Is the opposite of everything you said about Andrew Wiggins before that.
06:33The past is the past.
06:34Oh.
06:36The past.
06:37He really just.
06:37Is the past.
06:39You know what that sounds like?
06:40Up until tomorrow.
06:41You know what that sounds like?
06:42Somebody who doesn't want to be accountable for what they say.
06:45I said what I said.
06:46That's it.
06:47But the past is the past.
06:49Oh, so you just changed.
06:51I didn't change.
06:52He changed.
06:53More comfortable.
06:54He's bought in.
06:56That's a phrase that.
06:58He's bought in.
06:59You know, he was bought in before.
07:02He almost won the MVP.
07:06What?
07:06For.
07:07No, no, no.
07:07He's talking about the Warriors.
07:09Heat culture.
07:10He's brought into.
07:10I just think he's comfortable because he can get everybody here and he's had an off season
07:16to be home.
07:19Call this home instead of having to travel his family and everybody all the way across
07:22the country.
07:23Maybe.
07:24I don't know.
07:24Which is what I said when he got here.
07:26He bought in.
07:26And you said he doesn't look.
07:27He doesn't look happy.
07:28Yeah.
07:29Who would be?
07:30Bought in.
07:31I don't know what to tell you.
07:33You're very happy about this team, aren't you?
07:36I like this team.
07:37This team is fun.
07:37I'm enjoying it.
07:38Even the losses haven't been embarrassing.
07:40They've, you know, there's been, there's been, there's been moments and I just enjoy what
07:47I'm watching.
07:47It's a great product.
07:49We're watching a great product.
07:50Mm-hmm.
07:51All right.
07:52What do you, what do you, what do you, what does it matter?
07:54You got your beauty sleep.
07:55So what does it matter?
07:55You don't have to, you don't have to judge me on anything I'm feeling right now.
08:00You'll get your sleepy poos.
08:01I'll stay up till one in the morning watching a fun basketball team.
08:04It was fun.
08:05It was a great time.
08:07All right.
08:07I mean, I supported Andrew Wiggins more than you did.
08:10So I'm like, so who, who's, so let me get this straight.
08:12You were like, you're serious.
08:13No, no, no, no, no, no.
08:14Let me just be serious.
08:15Let's be serious.
08:16No, you didn't.
08:16You sat back here counting sheep, not watching Andrew Wiggins, and you're a better fan than
08:23me, who I have an Andrew Wiggins now bought in?
08:26When was that in the conversation?
08:27What are you doing?
08:28What did I say?
08:29I never said I was a better fan.
08:30That kind of feels like what you're doing.
08:31No.
08:32Kind of feels like it.
08:33Kind of feels.
08:33If I said I was a better fan than you, then we can go with it.
08:36What a time.
08:36But I didn't say that.
08:37What I said was, is your fraudulence over your comments about Andrew Wiggins all last year.
08:42Not fraudulent.
08:43My comments were accurate at the time, and now he's bought in.
08:46So, let me get this straight.
08:49So, you think when a guy gets traded and has to fly from Golden State to here, he just
08:55have to.
08:55I don't have to.
08:56Obviously, he didn't.
08:57But now he is.
08:58So, what's the difference?
08:59So, like, I don't understand.
09:00It's kind of a silly thing to keep harping on.
09:02When I said that last year, you, like, you ain't buying it.
09:06No.
09:06I understood what you're saying.
09:08No, you.
09:09At no point in time did you say that.
09:11I didn't have to like it.
09:12I understood your point.
09:14It's kind of always your point, though.
09:15Buck against Tobin.
09:17That's what you do.
09:18It's the playbook.
09:20You know?
09:20Okay.
09:21It's like Mario Cristobal.
09:22Run up the middle.
09:23That's what you do.
09:24Buck against Tobin.
09:25Okay.
09:25Oh.
09:26Somebody said Chubb traded.
09:28Is that accurate?
09:28Who?
09:29Chubb.
09:30Oh.
09:31Probably.
09:32Do you guys care anymore?
09:34Yeah, you really.
09:35Man.
09:35Do you?
09:36I heard you yesterday.
09:37I was like, damn, you're just done with the season.
09:39That's why I think you're all, I mean, you're definitely Wally Coyote.
09:43Wally Coyote.
09:44But here's what happens.
09:45I think you really.
09:45When the other teams.
09:46When the other teams.
09:48Right.
09:48Right.
09:49And that's what it is.
09:50Okay.
09:51Now that the Dolphins are just a dumpster fire.
09:55All of his hopes and dreams have just gone into the heat.
10:02And so that means that anything positive he can pull or any feel good he can pull from the heat, he's going to pull it.
10:10No.
10:11I mean, I'm a great compartmentalizer.
10:14You guys always do this.
10:16You think that one team reflects on how I feel about the other team?
10:19I'm genuinely like, does anybody, is anybody genuinely heartbroken if Bradley Chubb gets traded?
10:24It's super obvious what's going to happen.
10:26They're a terrible team.
10:27He's a veteran.
10:28His contract is up.
10:29Duh.
10:30If he gets traded.
10:31Yeah.
10:31But the problem is, the problem is, is that if you just look at what happened with the JP trade.
10:38Right.
10:39He seems super happy, by the way.
10:40I saw him yesterday.
10:41Peacock in Philly.
10:43Hitting him with the go birds.
10:45But the problem is, they're not only trading players.
10:51They're giving money, too.
10:52Yeah, so.
10:53Yeah, so.
10:54I don't understand why that's a big, like, people are, people are, people are like, oh,
10:57they spent a little extra money to get a better pick.
10:59Yeah, good.
11:00No, no, I'm not talking about that.
11:02I'm just saying, if this continues, you already got a boatload of dead money.
11:05No, but they're paying money for this year.
11:07They're just taking more salary from this year to pay it.
11:09Like, it's, I don't understand why this is a big deal.
11:11Not, I don't know if they did it with Chubb.
11:15No, they did it with Jalen Phillips.
11:16But I'm saying, I don't understand why anybody cares about that.
11:19Like, if you, if you found out that they.
11:21Is there that much of a difference between having the money and getting a fourth rounder or moving up to a third rounder against a team where that pick is going to be late in the draft?
11:34Well, yeah, then again, your pick is almost closer to a fifth round pick, if your point would be then.
11:38So if I spent a little more money, which isn't going to cost, it really isn't going to me, I think, because I'm not doing anything with that money.
11:43Why not get the better pick?
11:44I don't understand why that's a criticism.
11:46But you are doing something with that.
11:48You're not, though.
11:49You're not, you're not only having dead money, but you're also paying money out also.
11:54That's going to count against the cap.
11:55It's, it's not dead money.
11:56It's his salary for this year.
11:58You were already paying it.
11:59So why not get the better pick?
12:00You're taking it on.
12:01Like, you're not going to do, like, I would understand that if you were going to do anything with that relief.
12:06There's no relief.
12:07His contract's up at the end of the year.
12:09So I don't know.
12:10Again, why do people care if Steven Ross is willing to pay $5 million to get a better pick?
12:14Good for him.
12:15You know what I mean?
12:16Like, it's, it's kind of a, it's kind of a weird thing to go from the forefront to the third round.
12:20What does it matter to you?
12:22You know what I mean?
12:23It doesn't.
12:23Like, no, it doesn't matter.
12:24No, but seriously, it doesn't matter.
12:26I don't understand why it's money, but Leroy, it's just money.
12:30It doesn't matter.
12:30So, like, why are fans upset about it?
12:32I don't understand why this is an argument.
12:34You know what I mean?
12:35Like, it seems like one of those, can I just tell you?
12:37Here's why.
12:38Here's what I would tell you.
12:39Every time I see somebody else make a trade, very rarely do you see this happen.
12:43And with all the bad decisions that the Dolphins have made to see that they are the ones that are doing this when nobody else is doing it.
12:51It's not a bad decision, though.
12:53That's why I have pause.
12:54It's not a bad decision.
12:55But when your organization, who has made terrible choices the last couple years when it comes to money, makes a money decision, like, just have pause.
13:08No, see, that's the thing.
13:09It's like, I think that the Dolphins are bad with their money.
13:13That's true.
13:13But also, you want to get the best asset possible.
13:17There's going to be no ramifications for spending that money anyway.
13:21His contract's up this year.
13:23If you had to take on a contract past this year, I would understand the argument.
13:27Right.
13:28But if Steven Ross is willing to pay extra money to get a better pick, I don't understand why anybody's upset about it.
13:33You're not going to do anything with that money anyway.
13:34I think it's going to cost them next year.
13:38This is not, like, look, Tobin is informed.
13:43If teams pay salaries, you can roll that cap space to 2026.
13:48Yeah, but would you rather have the better asset?
13:49Like, they're not going to have money next year anyway.
13:53Here is my question that you seem to just – is having a late third-round pick versus a late fourth-round pick worth $5 million?
14:08Because the guy – they barely make that in the whole contract.
14:13So that's where I'm getting at.
14:14Is paying $5 million to move to a late third-round pick worth $5 million?
14:25Because you don't even give that player that contract.
14:29The contract's about $5 million.
14:32Who cares?
14:33They're slotted anyway.
14:34I know.
14:36But is it worth moving up and spending more than you would actually spend for the player?
14:42I think you would like to have the asset of a third-round pick for a guy who's going to be sunk and gone anyway.
14:47And especially, you're not going to have money anyway next year.
14:50You're cooked on the two of books.
14:52Like, you're done.
14:53It's over, dude.
14:55Okay.
14:56Like, I think you collect the best assets that you can.
14:59No, I understand.
15:00I understand everything you're saying.
15:01But why are you paying more money than you would pay the actual player that you would get in that pick?
15:12Is that how much it's worth to move up that far?
15:16$5 million to get a player that you're not going to give a $5 million contract to?
15:21Yeah, I mean, like –
15:22That sounds crazy.
15:23I guess.
15:24I don't know.
15:25I guess these are one of those things.
15:26Like, this is such a small potatoes problem in comparison to the rest of the team.
15:29Like, I'd rather just have the better asset.
15:31If you screw up a whole bunch of small situations, it ends up costing you big in the end.
15:37Yeah, but they haven't screwed up small situations.
15:39They've screwed up the biggest situation.
15:40Okay.
15:41You know what I mean?
15:43That's my question that hasn't been answered.
15:46And that's all I want to answer for it.
15:48I don't really –
15:49That's why I feel the way I feel.
15:50Is it worth $5 million to move up to a spot where the contract that you give the guy is not even going to be $5 million?
16:01But there's not going to be contracts.
16:02So, in effect –
16:03His contract's up.
16:04No, no, no.
16:05I'm talking about the draft pick.
16:07Like, if I would go into the draft and say, hey, I want to pay to move up from fourth to third, it wouldn't cost me $5 million because nobody gets paid that much.
16:24I understand he's a first-round pick.
16:25Like, that's why he makes more money.
16:27Like, you're not paying that money next year.
16:29His contract's up.
16:30And so, for the space that you could theoretically roll over for next year, you're not going to have anything to get anyway because you're sunk because of all the money you have to pay Tua.
16:40You know what I mean?
16:41Like, I'd rather have the better pick if they're willing to get it.
16:47I understand.
16:48Okay.
16:49It's kind of a weird thing because, like, Steven Ross gets praised because he's willing to pay the money.
16:54No, I understand.
16:54I'm just asking the question.
16:56Why would you move up and spend the amount of money that costs more than the player you're going to sign at that pick?
17:07That seems like a steep price just to move up from fourth to third round.
17:13But you're not paying it next year.
17:14Like, the pick is the pick.
17:17Like, seriously, he's off the books.
17:19Would you rather have the $5 million and have a fourth-round pick?
17:24The $5 million for cap?
17:26So, would I rather have the cap space next year that you would roll over?
17:29No, no, no.
17:29I'm saying just in general.
17:31No.
17:31In general.
17:31I'd rather have a higher pick.
17:32As a – is it worth $5 million to move up?
17:38I don't care how you do it.
17:40To move up to pay $5 million to – if I – if the draft was a free market,
17:46how much would it cost you to move up in the draft to that point from fourth round to third round?
17:54I think we just found out.
17:55It wouldn't cost – but if your team is the only team doing it,
17:59is it a good move when they've made bad decisions before?
18:02Yeah, they've made bad decisions.
18:03But, like, I don't think this is amongst the ones that I'm getting crazy about.
18:07All right.
18:08Like, I'd try and get the highest picks possible.
18:10You're going to need as much good, cheap talent and the bigger pool to look at than anybody
18:15because you're cooked on money next year anyway.
18:18Yes.
18:19So, whatever rolls over, whatever's there, doesn't matter.
18:22You're better to go have a better pool of young guys to go look at than you are the money.
18:27You're cooked on the money.
18:29Yeah, that's it.
18:30Would that be their second, third round pick?
18:31They would have two, three third round picks?
18:35I don't think they have a third.
18:36That would be their first third round pick.
18:38Or they have, wait, one, a two, and then they have a couple of threes, I think.
18:44So, if they have a couple of threes, you could use that couple of threes to move up in the draft.
18:48Correct.
18:48So, then, therefore, yeah, it's worth the $5 million.
18:50They say estimated 2026 third round pick contract.
18:55But that's the average of all of them.
18:58You're going to have a bottom third rounder.
19:04But you could use them for a package, that pick for a package for a trade.
19:07I understand that.
19:09My simple, basic question was, that seems a little steep to move up when you could have traded them and just got a fourth round pick.
19:19Right?
19:20I'm not even talking about the money aspect of it.
19:23You're just, it almost seems like you're overpaying, again, to move up to a position that doesn't even make that much money.
19:36So, in effect, if you draft at the end of the third round, right, then that player would have cost you $10 million for a third round pick.
19:46That's how I'm looking at it.
19:49You better be good.
19:52Now, which brings me back to my point, the decisions that this organization made, do you trust them with a third round pick?
20:00No, why would you trust them?
20:01Exactly.
20:02I mean, if your question was, do I trust them?
20:03But this is not one of those.
20:04So, why do it?
20:06Because they want, I guess because they want it to look good.
20:08I understand what you're saying.
20:09Right, right.
20:09I get what you're saying, but this isn't one of those ones where I'm, like, crazy about it.
20:13Like, I get it.
20:13You want to get as high picks as possible because your team's going to suck next year.
20:16Yeah, but that's not even value, though.
20:19That's what I'm saying.
20:20If we're going now moving forward and we're making good.
20:25Well, it's not value anyway.
20:26You have a first round pick that you just sent off.
20:29Like, it's not value anyway.
20:30Well, because.
20:31He's not making a second contract.
20:32It's already a sunk cost.
20:34That I understand.
20:35You know what I mean?
20:35But because here, we had this conversation yesterday.
20:39How much is JP worth?
20:42Yeah, I don't know.
20:43With his injuries, I don't know.
20:44Do you want to go into the offseason with that?
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