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00:00Because there's Microsoft as well today inking a deal with another cloud provider and bringing Dell into that deal as well.
00:07Yeah, and NVIDIA.
00:08And of course, and NVIDIA too.
00:09All paths lead back to NVIDIA, which is supply the GPUs for all of this sort of cloud computing.
00:13But what's interesting here is IREN is an Australian company, but actually has significant compute.
00:17IREN, that's how we're going to say it, IREN.
00:19And that's how we're going to, amongst your friends going to call it.
00:21That's fair, that's fair.
00:22Send in notes if you know any different.
00:24But IREN is saying that it's going to be offering its actual Texan-based compute.
00:28Remember, this is another example of a neocloud that used to be a Bitcoin miner.
00:32You've seen that with CoreWeave, seen it with some of the other players, NABIA is over in Europe.
00:36And Australia has been doing the same thing.
00:38They've got big offerings here in America, and they're able to offer that out to Microsoft,
00:43which we know is not able to capitalize on the amount of demand because they've got a supply issue.
00:48We heard that from Amy Hood, the CFO, on their earnings as well.
00:51This is a company that's having to allocate more capital expenditure.
00:54They're building out their own, but they're also going to neoclouds more broadly.
00:58We've seen Nebius as one, we've seen N-Scale as another, and now they turn to more access in America.
01:03So it's interesting that we're seeing Microsoft still having to double down.
01:05Neoclouds are what we call, what, just businesses that don't have any other business besides cloud?
01:11They just know how to run a data center efficiently.
01:13And then they go to a Dell and buy all of the equipment, whether it be the servers, the chips that go inside the servers.
01:19And we've got some real detail on the numbers here.
01:21They're saying, look, I'm paying $5.8 billion, this is IREN, to Dell for the equipment.
01:25But then longer term, this is a more than $9 billion deal with Microsoft.
01:29You're starting to understand some of the margins, some of the operating costs more broadly.
01:32Elsewhere, more debt.
01:33That seems to be the theme, right?
01:34Have a deal with someone and take on more debt.
01:37This time, it's Alphabet.
01:38It seems like it's both European markets and U.S. markets that it's tapping.
01:41But this is a completely different model for these tech giants, isn't it, to do so much of the growth in CapEx through debt?
01:47Because usually it would have been their own money.
01:49And actually, there's that $3 trillion figure out there coming from Morgan Stanley.
01:53And look, we're awash with numbers, so it can be hard to really understand.
01:56But $3 trillion is what Morgan Stanley thinks is going to be needed to roll out the AI data center spend to 2028.
02:02They think about half of that's going to come from these companies' cash flows.
02:04But the other half is going to come from interesting financing, whether it's Blue Owl that we see Meta turn to,
02:09or whether it's the debt markets, which Meta tapped $30 billion worth of last week.
02:13But now we see Alphabet go for €3 billion over in Europe.
02:16They already did their first European sale at the beginning of the year.
02:19And then they're tapping the U.S. markets as well.
02:21And look, interest rates have been coming down a bit.
02:24This is an interesting way to continue to show your commitment to growing.
02:27And of course, remember, Alphabet, we rewarded for spending more on their compute last week.
02:32We're seeing the growth trajectory for Alphabet and for their Google offering.
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