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00:00:00Hello and welcome to Saturday Frights Main Event Preview.
00:00:06I'm Adam Kilbourne, joined by another one of the deadly boys, Mike Kilhamburnts,
00:00:13to look ahead to this weekend's Saturday Frights Main Event.
00:00:20But before we get into it, if you're a fan of this sort of thing,
00:00:22make sure you subscribe to What Call Dressing on Apple Podcasts,
00:00:25Spotify, numbers of music, and YouTube.
00:00:33Kilbourne.
00:00:35Carry on.
00:00:36What do we do?
00:00:37We preview and review Raw Smackdown, the show formerly known as NXT 2.0.
00:00:45AW Dynamite, AW Collision, Baby Fears, premium live events.
00:00:49We have interviews, roundtable discussions, and a roundup of the week complete.
00:00:52We'll be doing a quiz, of course, on WrestleCulture.
00:00:54As I said, though, joined by Mike Kilhamburnts, to look ahead to Saturday Frights Main Event.
00:01:00Happy Halloween!
00:01:02Yep.
00:01:03I can't see a thing without these on.
00:01:06I think, I don't mind telling people, I wanted you to start the podcast,
00:01:10because you've got a bit of a cold today.
00:01:12Yeah, apologies everyone.
00:01:13No, no, don't apologise to nobody for nothing.
00:01:16They should be grateful just to have you.
00:01:17I certainly am.
00:01:18Like, but when you came in, I didn't, I just, you were ill.
00:01:22So, I was just like, oh, he's looking a bit red-eyed.
00:01:24Like, and then I realised that your wife had gone to the trouble of, like, giving you, like, spooky red eyes.
00:01:29And I didn't want people to miss it under your glasses.
00:01:31As you can see, for anybody, it's like, let's just put this up, because there's a lot of people that don't watch on video.
00:01:36But they should today, because it's Halloween special.
00:01:38Will Bourne has come, as you can all see, as a flamboyant snooker player.
00:01:44There he is.
00:01:45No, he's, again, if you couldn't tell by his spooky ghost noises, he's the devil.
00:01:49The devil?
00:01:51He's Satan.
00:01:52Satan Day Nights.
00:01:53There you go.
00:01:54Satan Day Frights.
00:01:56Main event.
00:01:57There was no killing, but then that was a...
00:01:58Vain event, because, like, Dracula.
00:02:01Yep.
00:02:01Anything in an event?
00:02:04Satan Day...
00:02:04Evil-ent.
00:02:05Satan Day Frights, Vain event.
00:02:08That's what everybody's in corner.
00:02:09That's what everyone says.
00:02:09Yeah.
00:02:11We're off to a flyer, aren't we?
00:02:13Smackdown's got a bar to clear tonight, haven't they?
00:02:15Yeah.
00:02:16We're previewing it.
00:02:17We do these things as a slash, but really, it's...
00:02:21I haven't really made any notes on Smackdown.
00:02:22It's all just hype for Saturday, isn't it?
00:02:24It's full steam ahead for this one.
00:02:25Mello versus Kit Wilson.
00:02:26We want pretty awesome to form, basically.
00:02:28Pretty awesome.
00:02:29So, Trick Mello, gang, got the first rivals to fight.
00:02:32But, yes, this is a...
00:02:34A stacked...
00:02:36I think it's fair to call it a stacked.
00:02:37Yeah.
00:02:37I'm really looking forward to this, actually.
00:02:40It's weird.
00:02:40We talked about this.
00:02:41I think it was the Raw Review, wherever you get your podcasts.
00:02:44Like, I made the point.
00:02:45I don't think this has necessarily been that well booked,
00:02:48but the card we've arrived at is one I want to watch.
00:02:51Like, maybe there's, like...
00:02:52Maybe that's an old NXT TakeOver,
00:02:55like, little bit of an AEW thing,
00:02:56where sometimes the television hasn't necessarily helped my anticipation.
00:03:01But the more I start at that card,
00:03:02the more I need to know what's going to happen.
00:03:03They've got me on the hook for this one.
00:03:05The World Heavyweight Championship match,
00:03:07just to dive straight into it,
00:03:08will it be a trick or a treat?
00:03:11Jey Uso versus CM Punk.
00:03:14Genuine question.
00:03:17Does this match's placement on the card
00:03:19determine what your predictions are?
00:03:21Oh.
00:03:23Sorry, before you go any further,
00:03:24how have you not arrived at trick or yeet all by yourself?
00:03:28Oh.
00:03:29That is there.
00:03:30This concludes an off week for my pun game.
00:03:33Like, I felt this on the SmackDown Review,
00:03:35and I apologise to you all out there.
00:03:36And then we had crisps and wrestling and that.
00:03:38What are you doing?
00:03:39You're a bitch fuck.
00:03:41Okay.
00:03:41Bring me to the dark side.
00:03:42Maybe I can help you with your...
00:03:44All I need is your soul.
00:03:46It feels like your pun is shing me.
00:03:48Hey.
00:03:49Hey, you're right, it worked.
00:03:51Yeah, trick or yeet.
00:03:52That is brilliant, Nicholas.
00:03:53Prick or yeet.
00:03:53You know, if punk's in a bad mood.
00:03:54Whoa.
00:03:55And he's using his triangle.
00:03:56If he's in a bad mood.
00:03:56Not you.
00:03:58You're just a prick every day.
00:03:59Don't badmouth, CM Punk.
00:04:00Prick or yeet.
00:04:01That's good.
00:04:01That is good.
00:04:03What were we talking about?
00:04:05Where it goes on the card, yeah.
00:04:07I don't think we're going to leave with a champion.
00:04:11Really?
00:04:11No.
00:04:13Our old friend, Obeyence's reign,
00:04:15will continue for the time being.
00:04:17I don't think that CM Punk would have defeated Seth Rollins.
00:04:23No.
00:04:23In the event that it was going to be Punk and Rollins.
00:04:25I don't necessarily think even Rollins would have defeated Punk, by the way.
00:04:30I think there was another title match for them two to properly, properly draw the line.
00:04:33Punk, I can't get out of my head.
00:04:35But Punk, drop that line in.
00:04:36I beat you on the first Raw on Netflix this year, and I'm going to beat you on the last one.
00:04:40That wasn't said by accident.
00:04:41No.
00:04:42And it felt to me at that point in time, when obviously Rollins, it was when Rollins was building the Cody,
00:04:46and Punk said, like, I'm keeping an eye on that.
00:04:48I'll be waiting, yeah.
00:04:50So Rollins wasn't injured.
00:04:52Presumably, as we all heard about, like that Vision War Games match was expected to go ahead.
00:04:57It sounds the reason that if this was going to be Punk-Rollins,
00:05:01you weren't going to get a finish, and it was going to set up War Games.
00:05:03Yes, exactly.
00:05:04Like, and then Netflix end of year finale, whatever, they were going to have this one last title match,
00:05:10and that would finally draw a line under Seth Rollins and CM Punk.
00:05:13So because this is pivot stuff, I just have a feeling that Jay, so as the guy they've slotted in place,
00:05:21because it has suited the storyline he's on, and the little journey he's on,
00:05:25is this guy trying to buy himself as a top star, and, you know, not belittle Roman Reigns,
00:05:32and not be the guy that relies on others.
00:05:33He's almost trying to sell it to himself, but in the process, he's kind of turning heel a little bit.
00:05:37Meanwhile, if CM Punk is to win the world title, fine, and there's a, you know,
00:05:43a bit of a, like, redemption act for him because of what happened at SummerSlam,
00:05:47but it's not the real redemption, is it?
00:05:49It's the revenge on Seth Rollins, and he did as much that world title.
00:05:52And I think CM Punk with the world championship at this time of year will wobble all of us,
00:05:56that then the Cody Rhodes match might disappear further off into the distance.
00:05:59Well, this is the thing, yeah, I saw people on X saying if Punk wins the title on Saturday,
00:06:03does that affect your excitement for Punk versus Cody?
00:06:08And I'd say no.
00:06:10Like,
00:06:10There's an element of the Stephanie Vakare thing, though, because we all thought
00:06:14that they'd save that.
00:06:15Well, what I mean by that is I think Punk, if they do have him win on Saturday, for example,
00:06:20I think he holds the title for a bit and drops it, and probably before the end of the year,
00:06:24at the very least, to then punch his ticket to WrestleMania via the Chamber or the Rumble.
00:06:31I still think the Rumble should be Sami Zayn's, but I can't really picture what his WrestleMania
00:06:35match looks like right now.
00:06:37Nevertheless, yeah, I think Punk could have held the title from SummerSlam to now,
00:06:42and it still wouldn't affect my excitement for Punk and Cody,
00:06:45because that's a whole different kettle of fish, isn't it?
00:06:49It's the, like, it's the more-to-do CM Punk festival.
00:06:53He's still not yet main-evented night two, as good as main event night one was.
00:06:58He's still not won the WWE title or had the feud with Cody Rhodes, as good as winning the
00:07:02world title was.
00:07:03I agree with that, but I just, it's a strange time to put the title on CM Punk.
00:07:08Not that there is a perfect, exacting precedent for this, but I reckon Mardy, often, this time
00:07:17of year, was a time for heels or experiments to hold titles.
00:07:20Yes.
00:07:22There's two world titles, so you can kind of always have a bit of both.
00:07:24Me and Andy spoke about this on the other day with regards to LA night, actually.
00:07:28Yeah, yeah.
00:07:29And Jeyusa sort of fits in that category more than Punk.
00:07:32Yeah.
00:07:33Because you are doing a bit of an experimental heel role with him.
00:07:35And nobody would have forecast that he would have had the title a second time after Gunther
00:07:38beat him.
00:07:39You kind of thought, all right, they tried that, where do they go next to him?
00:07:42And now he's one match away from hitting the belt again.
00:07:45So there's, what I like about this is the conversation we're having.
00:07:48There are kind of rational arguments for both.
00:07:50And I guess I'm trying to present a rational argument for a third option where nobody wins
00:07:54it, you know.
00:07:55Like, if they, and this could go on first, or this could go on last, and you can get the
00:07:59same finish.
00:07:59I am not saying this as somebody advocating for it.
00:08:03But hypothetically, if Brock Lesnar just came out and took them both out, and that's
00:08:08to tee up some sort of War Games thing where Punk and Jeyusa have to get back on the same
00:08:12side and be on the same babyface team for War Games against the jacked-up vision that
00:08:16we've talked about, where Brock's joining forces with the Bronnies and whatever.
00:08:20Ethan Page, Ricky Sains.
00:08:21Yeah, Austin Theory, Chris, and whatever.
00:08:23The queue of people that you've got in your vision special guest line or whatever, whoever
00:08:26turns up in that team.
00:08:27If that's the plan, it still does feel like the plan that there was talk of a Roman Reigns
00:08:32CM Punk co-captain's deal.
00:08:34That could be an option, you know.
00:08:35Paul Heyman takes a look at it, doesn't really like it, is resentful of the fact that Brom
00:08:38Breaker and Bronson Reed didn't get a shot at it.
00:08:41And he's like, well, you know what?
00:08:42Piers, you ruined my night with that Battle Royal, so I'm going to ruin yours on your
00:08:45big main event.
00:08:46You could put that on first because you're sending the fans home happy with Cody and
00:08:49Drew, or you could put it on last because it would be the biggest talking point.
00:08:52You're right, yeah.
00:08:52I didn't consider that.
00:08:53When I was thinking about, like, Jey Uso cheating to win the title with the help of
00:08:57Jimmy or something like that, or like you say, this no result thing, I didn't think it
00:09:02being such a monumental thing like a Brock Lesnar return again, which people might not
00:09:07like it, would be a huge talking point.
00:09:09Yeah.
00:09:10You know, he's just, I don't like this any more than anybody else, but he's just appeared
00:09:14literally sat next to CM Punk in a WrestleMania poster.
00:09:16Like, you have to accept that reality.
00:09:19Yeah, and that's how he can factor into your booking, even if you, and I say the general
00:09:24you, because I don't like it.
00:09:25Like, he's on the WrestleMania poster.
00:09:27It's time to stop pretending that he's not going to feature prominently in storylines,
00:09:30and this would be him featuring prominently in a storyline.
00:09:34Who would be your four, if they did, and they should do, a women's version of that?
00:09:39Rhea, obviously.
00:09:41What do you mean?
00:09:41You know, the...
00:09:42Other, um...
00:09:43So it was Roman, Cody, Brock, Punk with Triple H and...
00:09:47Like, an absolutely awful Optics L on WWE's part of that, by the way.
00:09:52Like, astonishingly bad from them.
00:09:54Like, this company that, like, as far back as 2018 when...
00:09:57Well, 2015 when Stephanie McMahon first invented women's wrestling.
00:10:00Yeah.
00:10:00But in 2018, when they just started insisting that the calendar had parity in terms of the
00:10:06rumble, the Elimination Chamber, Money in the Bank, and so on.
00:10:08Like, an absolutely astonishing own goal that that advert had, none, had absolutely zero.
00:10:16Rhea Ripley, Eoskye, Stephanie Vaquer, Tiffany Stratton, pregnant Naomi.
00:10:25Because the vibe would be impeccable.
00:10:27That would be very good.
00:10:28For turning up at the table.
00:10:30Like, I'm not out of the game completely.
00:10:32Girls, deal me in, you know.
00:10:33Who else?
00:10:37Charlotte.
00:10:38Liv Morgan.
00:10:39As much as I would love to, I think you've got to kind of keep her persona non grata for
00:10:43the return pop.
00:10:44She could be the advocate.
00:10:45She could be.
00:10:47Charlotte could be on the cards as the queen.
00:10:49All hail the queen.
00:10:51Roxanne Perez on a high chair.
00:10:55She's little.
00:10:56Yeah.
00:10:57Bluey Luzvin.
00:10:58Bayley, but because she's a bit crazy, she's playing Happy Families or something.
00:11:04She's like, she's not even.
00:11:05They have Happy Families in America?
00:11:07I don't know.
00:11:08She's not even playing cards.
00:11:10She's got some dominoes.
00:11:11Yeah.
00:11:11They're all playing cards and she, having said that, there's no cards on the table in
00:11:14this WrestleMania thing, is there?
00:11:15No.
00:11:16That was another oversight.
00:11:18Speaking of oversights, they're all putting the chips in for nothing.
00:11:21Hop here in the USA, Happy Families, good to know.
00:11:25I'm going to, do I know what Happy Families is?
00:11:29You know, like Mr. Soul, the fishmonger.
00:11:34What's the game, though?
00:11:35I'm aware of that.
00:11:35You have to collect the families, I think.
00:11:37Have you got, you have to ask for the person?
00:11:40It's like, have you got, it's a bit like Go Fish.
00:11:43Fish, but with people.
00:11:44Yeah, exactly.
00:11:45Fish, but with people.
00:11:47Which was AW Dynamite two weeks ago.
00:11:49Yeah.
00:11:50To keep it wrestling this.
00:11:52What's your Saturday night's main event viewing plans this weekend?
00:11:55I'm asking because I need to tell you mine.
00:11:57So there's no DMs that cause problems.
00:12:00Okay.
00:12:00I haven't caught up on the traitors, so I should mention that as well.
00:12:03I definitely won't bring that up then.
00:12:04Because I'm all up to date on that.
00:12:06It took me till episode seven of night.
00:12:08Back in the game, aren't you?
00:12:08I'm a, thank God at long last, a celebrity traitors guy.
00:12:12It's still the same, like, problem slash solution.
00:12:15It's been a tee up for the real traitors.
00:12:16I need to shoot traitors back in January now.
00:12:18And I've got it.
00:12:18I'm back in the headspace for it.
00:12:19What is my view?
00:12:22So what's the deal with time?
00:12:25All right, guys.
00:12:26What's all that about?
00:12:28Greenwich mean time?
00:12:30I like it when it's mean.
00:12:34No longer BST, but how does that affect America time?
00:12:38How does that affect America time?
00:12:39Oh, I don't know.
00:12:40I think.
00:12:41We have that window, don't we?
00:12:42Have like two weeks.
00:12:43You said, yeah.
00:12:44What was it?
00:12:44Raw the other day was an earlier start.
00:12:46We're in that window now.
00:12:47I will say then, my estimate would be that it'll be a midnight start on Saturday.
00:12:52We're in Salt Lake City, Utah.
00:12:54Oh, my old horn.
00:12:55The Delta Center.
00:12:57Home of Larry Rabb.
00:12:58Shout out, Larry.
00:13:00I don't think you're going to the show from what I remember you saying online.
00:13:04I dropped my horse the other day because I saw a back and forth between him and Matt
00:13:07Raines and thought it was implying that Larry wasn't coming to America.
00:13:10Well, not coming to America, coming to Vegas next year.
00:13:12He is.
00:13:13We're all good.
00:13:13Oh, fine.
00:13:14He's just not spending $10,000 on a ticket.
00:13:17I'll be smart.
00:13:18I got my WB Newcastle tickets today for me and the boys.
00:13:20Hey!
00:13:21There was a pre-sale happening and I filtered by lowest price and I didn't get destroyed
00:13:26financially forever.
00:13:28Very good.
00:13:29It was still too expensive.
00:13:30I'm not going to lie.
00:13:3160 quid a shot.
00:13:32That's too much when you're taking two kids.
00:13:36But these are the prices that make it one of your big Christmas presents.
00:13:39Yes.
00:13:40Don't tell my kids.
00:13:41Because the tickets have gone off to Santa Claus now, obviously.
00:13:45But I did the filter and the next tier up in the toilet, that is the arena in Newcastle.
00:13:54£110.
00:13:56Second row because ringside had got sold out.
00:13:59Second row.
00:14:00Time for the game.
00:14:01Second row, how sure Newcastle considering what I've just told you?
00:14:04£200 because I always don't want to be the correct here.
00:14:08I want to say something that offers like a bit of wiggle.
00:14:11That's right.
00:14:12So I like.
00:14:12So you've done that psychologically, right?
00:14:14Knowing that I'm going to say wrong, Satan.
00:14:16Wrong, Satan.
00:14:17£288.
00:14:19Yeah.
00:14:20Way to be wrong again.
00:14:21£458 plus fees.
00:14:24For a Newcastle.
00:14:25So a couple of people, it's a grand.
00:14:27Yep.
00:14:27For the house show in Newcastle.
00:14:29Insane.
00:14:30What are we doing?
00:14:30I mean, great.
00:14:32Great is good, of course.
00:14:34Of course, yeah.
00:14:34You'd been there, wouldn't you?
00:14:35I'm playing both sides, so.
00:14:37I will be watching this show.
00:14:40Probably as you and Sige, in fact, are reviewing it.
00:14:43Starts at midnight?
00:14:44On Saturday.
00:14:45I think so.
00:14:46Into Sunday, yeah.
00:14:47I think so.
00:14:47It's 5.30am in Utah right now.
00:14:51Six hours behind this.
00:14:52Yes, I'll be right then.
00:14:53Keep up.
00:14:54Don't text me about it, please.
00:14:56Okay.
00:14:57I probably won't be watching live.
00:14:59But on Sunday either.
00:15:00It is my son's.
00:15:01Oh, of course.
00:15:02Yeah, you're not here on Monday.
00:15:03My son's last day of half term on Monday.
00:15:06So I'm off with him.
00:15:07But we've already talked about this.
00:15:08And we're not allowed to watch it until my other son's home from school.
00:15:12So it's going to be Monday.
00:15:13So what?
00:15:13Okay.
00:15:13So it's going to be Monday afternoon.
00:15:14They go to different schools.
00:15:15Yeah.
00:15:16Different ages, different needs.
00:15:18Have you had a week or two weeks off?
00:15:19They have.
00:15:20They've had a week.
00:15:20Yeah.
00:15:21The system doesn't work.
00:15:22Had a week off.
00:15:23Sorry.
00:15:23And why Monday also?
00:15:25Just because they can.
00:15:27Yeah.
00:15:27Because they can just say, stop this, Satan.
00:15:30Because teachers surely work up between nine and three, don't they?
00:15:34And they don't get enough holidays.
00:15:37Satan.
00:15:37Seven weeks in the summer.
00:15:39Your takes on teachers are much like my colleague Adam Wilborn's.
00:15:42And I don't like them, respect them, or endorse them, and nor does anybody else at Watkinson.
00:15:45You do a proper job here on the podcast.
00:15:49I think this is absolutely out of pocket.
00:15:51Exactly what I'd expect from the shoot devil.
00:15:53Yes, exactly.
00:15:54Not you.
00:15:56It's going to be Monday afternoon's main event.
00:16:00Right.
00:16:00Okay.
00:16:00So there's like, there's a window base.
00:16:03I'm very excited.
00:16:04We're getting the snacks in the whole deal.
00:16:05Because Sonner on the telly against Everton, in like the first Monday night football I've
00:16:10watched in about a decade.
00:16:11Is it still on with the cool music?
00:16:13I don't know.
00:16:14Why would I watch it?
00:16:15Yeah, you like football.
00:16:16Yeah, yeah.
00:16:16But like, where you get like, so.
00:16:18We get like an hour of, like, moving graphics around a big screen.
00:16:22And then there's a game afterwards.
00:16:23Because you've got a packed Monday.
00:16:24So you've got to try and get SNME in before that.
00:16:26Yeah, so we're going to go straight from, it's going to go from that to the match on
00:16:31Monday night.
00:16:32So that's like, that's because the first time.
00:16:36For the first time in about a month, I'm getting so pissed I can't see.
00:16:42I'm going to see, like, I'm very excited actually.
00:16:46I'm going to see a band called Just Radiohead.
00:16:49Not, shoot Radiohead.
00:16:50Couldn't get those tickets.
00:16:51Fed tickets are easier.
00:16:53But Just Radiohead, a Radiohead trivia act.
00:16:54That's no mean feat.
00:16:55I'm quite good.
00:16:56No surprises.
00:16:57Yeah, obviously.
00:16:58That's good.
00:16:59That is good stuff.
00:17:01Like, I don't mind a tribute act, but it takes some stones to try and be a Radiohead tribute
00:17:05act, I think.
00:17:06Yes, I agree.
00:17:07I'm very excited for that.
00:17:08But I also plan to, like, regardless of the quality of the gig, which I think is going
00:17:11to be very high, I'm going to drink myself into oblivion this Sunday.
00:17:15It's going to be a ride off slaughter.
00:17:18I've got to take my kids to some stupid fireworks at seven o'clock on the Sunday night.
00:17:22It's not the fifth.
00:17:23And I don't make any of these rules.
00:17:26I don't like any of it.
00:17:26I would do none of it.
00:17:27I wouldn't do this, with all due respect to yourself.
00:17:30Like, I wouldn't do the fireworks after what I said last year got me in trouble.
00:17:34Yeah.
00:17:34I would just, I would do none of it.
00:17:37Are they an age where they can have sparklers now?
00:17:40I don't know what the age is yet.
00:17:41Yeah, they had them when they were young.
00:17:42And Louis told me that Eric can't have one at two years old, apparently.
00:17:45That's correct, I think.
00:17:47I reckon...
00:17:48I wasn't actually going to do that.
00:17:49But I was on his shoulder.
00:17:51Go on, Adam.
00:17:52Give them a sparkler.
00:17:54I reckon five is like when...
00:17:56Five to eight is like the sparkler sweet spot.
00:17:59Sparklers are goaded.
00:18:01I was just going to say, because mine feel like they've grown out of them slightly,
00:18:03but then I'm speaking to you with, what are you, 37 or something?
00:18:05Yeah, you can draw a cock in the sky if you want to see it.
00:18:08They need to come all the way through, don't they?
00:18:09They need to get to cock drawing age.
00:18:11You had them at your wedding, didn't you?
00:18:12Yes, we did.
00:18:14I just didn't remember that, because I was outside.
00:18:17Shout out to the wonderful Chris Askey, who's a phenomenal photographer and a good friend of mine.
00:18:22Taking some amazing photos outside, and then a certain song played.
00:18:25I won't say which one.
00:18:26And I dropped the sparkler and sprinted inside, because it's one of my favourite songs ever.
00:18:30And I wanted to celebrate it with you, please.
00:18:32That was it, packed dance floor.
00:18:33Where's your wife?
00:18:34Out there, somewhere I don't care anymore.
00:18:36Do we need to add bonfire night to my list?
00:18:40Do you dislike everything?
00:18:42What about a big fire?
00:18:46Toffee apple?
00:18:47No, not into toffee apples.
00:18:49Too much fuss.
00:18:50Bonfire toffee, just separate, not attached to the fruit.
00:18:54What's bonfire toffee?
00:18:55Just like a toffee, just in a bag, but it's like smoky.
00:18:58I like a toffee.
00:18:59Do you like fireworks?
00:19:01Nah, who cares?
00:19:02I like fireworks in a wrestling show.
00:19:04Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:19:04You like pyro.
00:19:05I like pyro within an arena, which theoretically is its most dangerous.
00:19:09Yes.
00:19:10But that's what I like.
00:19:11I like arena pyro.
00:19:13Or like stadium fireworks or whatever.
00:19:17Toffee in general.
00:19:18Let's have a minute on toffee.
00:19:19Maybe this should go on the list.
00:19:20I don't like, I don't like that.
00:19:24Well, toffee is because we are playing Everton.
00:19:26It's claggy.
00:19:27Yeah.
00:19:28I'd never choose.
00:19:29If I'm looking down that aisle, toffee's not getting a look in if there's other options.
00:19:34I keep, like more of my stuff.
00:19:36I appreciate.
00:19:37You're a fudge guy.
00:19:38Let me go for fudge instead of toffee.
00:19:39I like fudge.
00:19:40I like a fudge.
00:19:40It just breaks down.
00:19:41It's soft, isn't it?
00:19:42It's soft, isn't it?
00:19:43It's there.
00:19:44You eat it.
00:19:44You get the flavor.
00:19:45It's gone.
00:19:45Like, I actually was telling Adele, my wife, last night about you having this, like,
00:19:50oh, these things that Hamflit doesn't like.
00:19:52Because we had one.
00:19:53We were watching an episode of Taskmaster.
00:19:55And it was one of the tasks.
00:19:56And I just turned to her.
00:19:57And I was like, you know, 20 years of marriage, you can still surprise each other.
00:20:01I said, so this is, I don't like this.
00:20:05And it's actually given me the ick.
00:20:08And she responded with.
00:20:10Like, are you joking me?
00:20:13You know how much I love that.
00:20:14And I was like, I know.
00:20:15And I've never really thought about how much I actually hate this.
00:20:18What is it?
00:20:19Charades.
00:20:20Charades gives me the ick.
00:20:22And I said.
00:20:22You have mentioned this.
00:20:23I've barely said it on our Christmas content before.
00:20:25She said.
00:20:26But it's just all games, isn't it?
00:20:27And I was like, yeah, it's kind of all games.
00:20:30And then that was what brought me to say.
00:20:32And I was telling this to the boys.
00:20:32You would hate Christmas at the World Board.
00:20:34I was telling this to the boys the other day.
00:20:36And they were like, oh, yeah, we need to stick that on the list.
00:20:37Hamflit hates games.
00:20:39Like, and then I had to explain it with a list.
00:20:41And I was running them off.
00:20:43And obviously to her, it's not that.
00:20:44It's not new information.
00:20:45She knows these things that I just don't like.
00:20:47And have been pronounced about it.
00:20:48But she was like, oh, yeah, there is quite a lot, isn't there?
00:20:50I was like, yes, darling, there is.
00:20:52So I think she's in the spot of you guys really thinking it's weird.
00:20:54But yes, you're right.
00:20:56It gives me the ick.
00:20:57Yeah.
00:20:58Like games in general, I don't like.
00:21:00I'd just, I'd rather sit in comfortable silence.
00:21:03Watching the telly.
00:21:04Yeah.
00:21:04Telly.
00:21:04Telly was always there.
00:21:05Telly was fine in my family.
00:21:06And I think you should be fine in everybody else's.
00:21:08More telly, if anything.
00:21:10Because the absolute state of the internet.
00:21:12Yeah.
00:21:13But hi, games.
00:21:18Sherrads in particular.
00:21:19There was something about the way that like you have to get up and do it.
00:21:23And like sort of perform for your nearest and dearest.
00:21:26To find the whole situation.
00:21:27I get angry at people who don't know.
00:21:29And if you don't play it, fair enough.
00:21:30But who don't know the basics of like what the things mean.
00:21:35Yeah.
00:21:35Film, book, play.
00:21:38What's play?
00:21:40I think.
00:21:41Is that like the curtains at the top of the stage?
00:21:42What are they?
00:21:43So we've got film.
00:21:44Hang on.
00:21:44Let me see what I can do.
00:21:45I'm not the Sherrads guy, right?
00:21:48Film.
00:21:49Yeah.
00:21:49Hollywood blondes.
00:21:49That's how I know that.
00:21:50Of course.
00:21:52TV.
00:21:52Yeah, TV.
00:21:53Don't classic.
00:21:54That is.
00:21:54It's actually VAR.
00:21:55I think they're fine.
00:21:56But hang on.
00:21:56Yeah.
00:21:57Fine now.
00:21:58Stage then.
00:21:58Play.
00:21:59Sorry.
00:21:59Yeah.
00:22:06Bookster slash music.
00:22:08That's song.
00:22:09I think.
00:22:09Song.
00:22:10That's what I'd do for song.
00:22:11Is that right?
00:22:11Did you get that, Nicholas?
00:22:12That means thank you in Macaton sign language.
00:22:15Well, not as kind of as gesticulating.
00:22:16One more you're missing.
00:22:17That.
00:22:17I think this guy, not microphone.
00:22:21The usual guy.
00:22:22My kill.
00:22:24Sitch.
00:22:24Sick.
00:22:27Oh.
00:22:29Book.
00:22:29Spot on.
00:22:30Yeah.
00:22:31I hate it.
00:22:31Well, I remember that.
00:22:32Yeah.
00:22:32I remember having to sit through it.
00:22:33I don't like, I don't care very much for disco scenarios.
00:22:41Excuse me?
00:22:42Yeah.
00:22:42Like.
00:22:43The crisps.
00:22:44No.
00:22:44Like when I'm in the mood for them.
00:22:46When you want to get your face blown off by the salt and vinegars.
00:22:48No.
00:22:49When I was younger, any situation where like, you know, like kids seem to really enjoy the
00:22:54likes of weddings or big birthdays where you booked a function room with a dance floor.
00:22:58Yeah.
00:22:58Not for me.
00:22:58I hate it.
00:22:59Like that bit where like parents are like, come on, come on, have a dance.
00:23:03I would like feel sick to my stomach about like, about having to like contribute myself
00:23:07in any order.
00:23:08Like I would just like find when I was younger in PE and like I was terrible at all sports
00:23:12and didn't have a competitive bone in my body.
00:23:14I would find every way to avoid involving myself.
00:23:18Right.
00:23:18And go into those events and functions was kind of the same thing.
00:23:21It was like, what seat won't I be?
00:23:23Like if I sit near a bunch of people I don't know, they're not going to think anything.
00:23:27Like I would just like be allowed like a magazine or a comic or something.
00:23:31And like, I'm sitting there reading, I just keep myself to myself, but like avoiding the
00:23:34family members who are most likely to say, come on, Michael, come on, have a dance.
00:23:37You love this song.
00:23:38Yeah.
00:23:38All that kind of stuff.
00:23:39I was just like mortified by the prospect of it.
00:23:42I didn't go to like school discos where you're supposed to be like hooking up with chicks.
00:23:45Oh, I did.
00:23:46Yeah.
00:23:46No, like it's one of the many reasons they took no interest because like, I just didn't put
00:23:51myself in that world, especially because most of them on Fridays and like, I've got somewhere
00:23:57else to be on a Friday night.
00:23:58Great.
00:23:58Yeah.
00:23:59But like, yeah, just all of that, all that stuff.
00:24:02Like clubs made sense to me from the moment I entered them at the age of 16 years old
00:24:07underage, because by that point I was like eight VKs deep.
00:24:10I was like, ah, I get it.
00:24:12And you can still hide in the corners of clubs.
00:24:14You could.
00:24:14Dark, innit.
00:24:15That's true.
00:24:16Yeah.
00:24:16In fact, easy to hide.
00:24:17Lots of dark, dark spaces.
00:24:18We're doing dark, dark deets.
00:24:20God.
00:24:21That line always makes me physically sick in that film.
00:24:24Is that, is that Love Actually?
00:24:26Yeah.
00:24:26Yeah.
00:24:26Just like, it's dresses like that actually.
00:24:28Oh God, yeah.
00:24:29Yeah.
00:24:30I thought you just said that off the top of your dick.
00:24:32I didn't realise that lady, isn't it?
00:24:34Yeah.
00:24:34That is what me and Ray Parker Jr. have got in common.
00:24:38Bustin' makes me feel good.
00:24:42Halloween, innit?
00:24:43Yeah.
00:24:44You like the indie disco, though?
00:24:47Oh yeah, like as an adult, I just love the clear.
00:24:50Yeah, because it wasn't around when you were a kid, so.
00:24:52No, there was no such thing, if only.
00:24:53Whereas now, you get.
00:24:54They didn't even do discos back then.
00:24:55How would the dinosaurs get into the same buildings and that?
00:24:58I don't.
00:24:58It's just, you know, Saturday Night Fever era and all that.
00:25:00It was original shoot disco.
00:25:01Now though, get you up on that scaffolding in a bar with a boat in the middle.
00:25:06Oh, like, this is it.
00:25:08Get like.
00:25:08I may be bad, but I'm perfectly good.
00:25:11This is it.
00:25:12Get like six pints.
00:25:13And a lot of people have seen the video evidence.
00:25:14Get like six pints of Guinness in me.
00:25:15Twelve shots, four VK blues.
00:25:17Oh, all right.
00:25:18I'll drink.
00:25:18Look at me.
00:25:20I'll be out.
00:25:21Me.
00:25:23100 pints and I'll get the dance floor, mate.
00:25:25Yeah.
00:25:25I love you.
00:25:26I'm excited to drink.
00:25:27I'm just going to put it.
00:25:28I'm just very jealous.
00:25:29It's been a while.
00:25:29I'm going to get absolutely mortal drunk this weekend.
00:25:32Like, it's so I'm 40 years old.
00:25:34I know what else you're excited for.
00:25:36And that is a Jade Cargill heel title run.
00:25:40Yes.
00:25:40She turned heel on SmackDown last week.
00:25:42She's going to allegedly explain her actions on SmackDown tonight.
00:25:45It's the right thing for a character.
00:25:47Tiffany Stratton, though.
00:25:48Only one loss in 2025, of course.
00:25:51We think she's getting it done, don't we?
00:25:52Jade.
00:25:53Yeah.
00:25:54Like, it'll feel like a shock without actually being one.
00:25:59Yes, that's fair.
00:25:59Tiffany Stratton's injuries, like her really impressive win-loss record slash quality of
00:26:07matches has resulted in the time running out.
00:26:12Tick tock.
00:26:13Yeah.
00:26:13In the title reign.
00:26:14Jade Cargill, fresher than ever, revitalized as a heel.
00:26:18And kind of, if they go with it, which I think they should,
00:26:21like physically dominating Tiffany Stratton and beating her and just giving her pause
00:26:26for thought and having to go away and regroup and Jade Cargill just kind of out of nowhere
00:26:32becoming this new strain of dominance on SmackDown.
00:26:36I am still listening.
00:26:37I'm just trying to find out, trying to work out how many times the titles actually changed
00:26:40hands on a Saturday night's main event.
00:26:42Does it feel like there was many?
00:26:44Not many.
00:26:44Chelsea Green became the inaugural United States champion.
00:26:46Good point.
00:26:47Yeah.
00:26:48But it's a bit Battle of the Belsky from there.
00:26:51You know, off the top of my head, I can't even think of another one.
00:26:56I feel like I'm forgetting one, but I can't think of another one.
00:26:58No, I think you're right.
00:26:59Was the, no, it can't have been.
00:27:01I was going to say the continental title change, but Brom Breaker had it, Dominic had it, and
00:27:07then in the women's division, Lyra had it, Becky had it.
00:27:10Yeah, they're all retentions title-wise.
00:27:12Yeah.
00:27:12So that'll be, oh, good.
00:27:13I'm glad that we need that sort of thing.
00:27:14Shock to the system.
00:27:16Good for SmackDown's women's division.
00:27:18Great for Jade Cargill.
00:27:19Well, interesting for Tiffany Stratton.
00:27:21Like, yeah, I don't know what the rest of the year or next year holds for her.
00:27:24She's going to be prominently used at WrestleMania, no doubt, obviously.
00:27:27And you could book a screwy finish, but I kind of have slid my chips in on the world title
00:27:34for that one.
00:27:36Yeah.
00:27:36So I've kind of got to pick a winner here, and I'll go with Jade Cargill.
00:27:40Yeah, I don't think mess about with this.
00:27:41Like you say, I think, not a squash, but like, Jade Cargill, done playing nice, and just
00:27:50bat as a, like, because you can run it back at war games if you want, or in and around war
00:27:54games.
00:27:55Because you could do, you know, the SmackDown before, because you know how they do that now.
00:27:57Yeah, they're never shorter shows for this sort of thing, are they?
00:27:59Yeah.
00:28:00I really want a team or a match to utilize the fact that there are two rings.
00:28:05People won't get confused, like, other than the other match, because it baffles me that
00:28:10they never do.
00:28:11No.
00:28:12It's weird with war games, because for something that, for one night, sort of completely uproots
00:28:20what wrestling typically looks like, they then work as hard as possible to try and make you
00:28:24forget that fact.
00:28:25It's this weird belief that, like, ah, if...
00:28:28Do you think it'll confuse the audience, like, Canopy and Fall happen in that ring, or...
00:28:32I'm saying you could focus on one ring and just have one person use the other ring for
00:28:35a good run-up, or whatever, for a...
00:28:36It is, it's that thing of, like, they have the...
00:28:40Sidgwick's right when he says it, but sometimes I understand why WWE do this.
00:28:43Like, they do sometimes have the lowest expectations for what people can cope with as a fan base.
00:28:48And it's like, oh, no, they've seen that there's two rings in a singles match.
00:28:51Now, war games won't mean as much.
00:28:53Bollocks, but they think that.
00:28:54They really...
00:28:55Like, there'll be a...
00:28:55There'll definitely be a piece of paper in Guerrilla.
00:28:58Don't use ring B.
00:28:59Yeah.
00:28:59You know what I mean?
00:28:59You know these things are going to exist.
00:29:01Or, like, don't run all the way around the outside because it's a longer lap and it will...
00:29:06You'll confuse the audience, you know.
00:29:08Like, it's taking them bloody ages to get to the commentary.
00:29:10Like, start there, whatever.
00:29:12All these little rules.
00:29:13It doesn't matter.
00:29:14People, like, people will be fine.
00:29:16People can cope with the fact that they're in the build.
00:29:18I've been to war games.
00:29:19You're staring at the build.
00:29:20You're staring at the ring all night.
00:29:21You know there's two rings.
00:29:22Yeah.
00:29:23You're going to be okay.
00:29:24Like, it's just...
00:29:24Even when they shoot it, it's weird, isn't it?
00:29:26Like, they try and hard camera the second ring out of the way to try and preserve the merit of war games.
00:29:32It's like they don't light it.
00:29:33Yeah.
00:29:34Like, don't care.
00:29:35Not bothered.
00:29:35Is it becoming too easy to book WrestleMania big matches by virtue of surprise returns?
00:29:46You know how Triple H, for many of his successes, but this year especially more of his flaws, is kind of starting to copy his own homework.
00:29:53We're entering that period of his booking.
00:29:54Is there, like, we've kind of...
00:29:58The reason I'm asking you this is because Jade Cargill winning the title probably sends our brains the same way.
00:30:02Bianca Belair fully recovered, wins either the Rumble or the Chamber, and that's the title match at WrestleMania.
00:30:07And Jade's like, oh no, this is the one thing I didn't want to happen.
00:30:10But you could also kind of go that way with Liv Morgan and Roxanne Perez.
00:30:14You could head in that direction with, like, a Gunther if he doesn't return for the unseen match, as many have predicted as you will.
00:30:22Like, there's a lot of ways, basically, WrestleMania matches could be set up by an opponent kind of not acknowledging the existence of another.
00:30:31I think that's a fair criticism, but I also think the names we are talking about are exceptions.
00:30:37Like, I get it.
00:30:39I get it saying it's kind of lazy just going, well, you'll book a Jade Cargill title match against Bianca Belair, because that makes all the sense in the world.
00:30:46And it is.
00:30:47Like, like you say, the moment Jade turned heel last week, we both went up, win the title, defend it up to WrestleMania, Bianca.
00:30:53Yeah.
00:30:53One way or another gets that title match.
00:30:54I want the match.
00:30:55They've, you know, held on to it, so.
00:30:57But I'd say the names like Bianca Belair, and particularly Liv Morgan, yeah.
00:31:03You don't want Liv Morgan coming back and being like, I tell you why we want this big blow-off feud to happen.
00:31:06That's payback, obviously.
00:31:08Yeah, fair enough.
00:31:09I live more.
00:31:10I agree, though.
00:31:11Yeah, it has become a crutch, and I guarantee if there was someone else who's, I was going to say Owens then, but Owens also applies to me.
00:31:18Owens is someone I'd be like, absolutely put him in something huge if he's coming back from this.
00:31:22Yeah.
00:31:22Well, actually, speaking of Owens, that's a nice segue to Chris Jericho.
00:31:29Lots of speculation about him, only fueled by the sort of double news that was broken earlier on today.
00:31:36The expiration of the trademark or the lack of lapse, isn't he?
00:31:43Yeah, exactly.
00:31:44The lack of investment in, ironically, the Jericho Vortex, which I don't know why he wants to own that as a name anyway.
00:31:52Yeah.
00:31:52It was a criticism.
00:31:53Yeah.
00:31:53Coupled by the fact that he went to an ice hockey game, I think it was, with Kevin Owens.
00:31:59And great to see Kevin Owens obviously doing well because if you watch that Cody Rhodes thing, well, one, he gets pissed and it's funny.
00:32:06But two, he talks about like, yeah, I'm putting off surgery because I'm not in complete agony with my neck.
00:32:13But I am going to be.
00:32:14So when that happens, I'll have to get this surgery and it's going to be a long old road to recovery.
00:32:17So good to see him doing well.
00:32:21I feel like I've asked this a lot, but I'm going to ask it again here.
00:32:23Jericho returning to WWE, you'll help.
00:32:26It's happening.
00:32:28It's, maybe it's because it's the scariest day of the year and I'm facing my fear.
00:32:34Yeah, but I like, I've come to the conclusion that it's happening.
00:32:40And I don't even think knowing that it's something Jericho will mind, you know?
00:32:45Yeah.
00:32:45Like he likes, before we use the word viral to mean anything other than passing a cold on, Jericho liked campaigns that had a viral quality to them.
00:32:55Yeah.
00:32:55And a picture with Kevin Owens at an ice hockey game is as good as any because that was like at the top of Reddit.
00:33:02Yeah.
00:33:03This morning, you know, because, and they know that the wrestlers, they know what stuff is going to get traction for their characters.
00:33:09And it's cute to be like, ah, it's the best friend, you know, when the best mates, but in the time that we're in, they know what that reflects and what that means.
00:33:16And it's happening, like, I, the second the image of Triple H doing a double point picture of Jericho and CM Punk in their gear, having just got back from a match and him getting to do the, who'd have thought, eh?
00:33:33Me, the game Triple H, like, I can do anything and everything and I've just done it with two more.
00:33:39Like, it did, it became a lock for me then.
00:33:45And this has just cemented it, like, even more so.
00:33:49The rumble, uh, isn't even, like, it's, it's, it's a perfect place.
00:33:55I was going to say.
00:33:56It is so perfect.
00:33:58Yeah.
00:33:58It, it isn't even like you've sort of, if you, say if you hadn't planned it, say if it's just like one of them proper lucky contract ends in December.
00:34:06We can get him in January, like, like, but this is, like, perfect all the way around.
00:34:12Like, if you plan for it, great.
00:34:13If you need to do it as a last minute thing, it still hits, he comes in.
00:34:16Like, Jericho did have, and I don't think does have any more, the longevity record in the rumble.
00:34:21So, you could even bring him in at number one because that allows you then to do the biggest possible entrance.
00:34:25Or, like, number two.
00:34:26You know, number one comes in, it's like, who's it going to be?
00:34:28And then it's, it's Chris Jericho.
00:34:31He did that with Ziggler as number one when he came back.
00:34:34Yeah, you get, like, two minutes to just, like, rub your eyes cartoonishly and stare at the fact that Chris Jericho's back in the WWE ring.
00:34:43I don't, I can't pretend I think he's going to contribute massively positively.
00:34:51But I would be astonished if we do not see Chris Jericho on the, you know, you know, Bully Ray, speaking as only Bully Ray can.
00:35:02Like, everything about to come out of my mouth is the most ingenious cliffhanger in film and sports history.
00:35:11Take L.A. Knight's voice away and the fans will support him more.
00:35:16No, his voice is the reason he's got to the level that he's at.
00:35:19Literally just done a voice loss angle in NXT that didn't work.
00:35:28And he's already popular.
00:35:31This isn't like we need these crowds to get behind him.
00:35:33Like, this is what I don't get about, and I've ranted about this earlier on in the week when people are like,
00:35:37they're botching L.A. Knight.
00:35:40You said it yourself.
00:35:41No, it's in the chase.
00:35:43Yeah.
00:35:43And he's, it's not like, God, he keeps losing to Bully, no offense, Akira Tozawa.
00:35:48No, he keeps being the third man or the, you know, the nearly man in all of this.
00:35:54So, yeah.
00:35:56You don't understand, though.
00:35:57I am giving you the excess pass to the complete works of my genius.
00:36:05And my latest bit of genius is, did you see the empty stack of chips on the table?
00:36:10Deal me in, boys.
00:36:12And it's real bloody Ripley.
00:36:15What if it's Chris Jericho?
00:36:17Yeah.
00:36:17That's even worse.
00:36:19I think he'll feature prominently in the WrestleMania build.
00:36:23Prominently.
00:36:23Singles match.
00:36:25Nicholas, I think it was.
00:36:26Did you pitch AJ Styles?
00:36:28I said it would be funny.
00:36:30WrestleMania rematch.
00:36:31AJ's first one and now it's going to be his last one.
00:36:35I will be astonished if Chris Jericho.
00:36:37Did you lose that?
00:36:38Yeah.
00:36:39That's what I was saying.
00:36:39Jericho should lose his first one back to AJ.
00:36:42Thanks for the receipt, bro.
00:36:45He is a flat circle after all.
00:36:48And like, you know, it's sort of a, I don't know what an OP6 win is in 2026 after I don't
00:36:56think it's been a particularly, like, thrilling 2025 for either North American major, both
00:37:02companies.
00:37:02But like, Jericho was this figure of derision and boredom by the end of the AEW.
00:37:08Yeah.
00:37:08And maybe they're spying like a, welcome back to the big leagues, mate.
00:37:13Like him at WrestleMania, big stadium, everybody going nuts for Chris Jericho's big kind of, like, you, because it's going to be in Saudi, the Rumble, so he's not going to hit the stadium until he hits Mania.
00:37:21Oh, of course, yeah.
00:37:22And it's going to be like, here he is.
00:37:23Look what we've done.
00:37:24We've rehabilitated Chris Jericho in North America.
00:37:27Unlike them dobers.
00:37:29Like, blow him.
00:37:30Like, Tony, like, 60,000, 70,000 WrestleMania.
00:37:33Tony fumbled.
00:37:34Like, they'd be buzzed.
00:37:35Look at that.
00:37:36Look at your face.
00:37:37Like, they'll be absolutely.
00:37:38This is me as the devil, obviously.
00:37:39Of course.
00:37:39Yeah, yeah.
00:37:45You're like John Cena on the devil because you can't see me.
00:37:47Yeah.
00:37:47Here I am.
00:37:47Like, it's double whammy.
00:37:50I can't see, and I've got a very boring face.
00:37:52I don't think you've got a boring face.
00:37:54I just think you look a complete weirdo.
00:37:57Like, it's, you know, it's not a dull.
00:37:58It's like when you and Sidgit both did it at the same time.
00:38:00I needed to leave the room.
00:38:01Yeah.
00:38:01It's like, you're not yourselves.
00:38:04Chris Jericho still has the longest cumulative time in it.
00:38:06Does he?
00:38:07Obviously.
00:38:08Do you want to do top five?
00:38:09Go on, then.
00:38:11Triple H.
00:38:13El Gameski.
00:38:15Yay!
00:38:16Number five.
00:38:17Kane.
00:38:18No, dear.
00:38:19That's wrong.
00:38:20Shawn Michaels.
00:38:21No, dear.
00:38:22That's wrong.
00:38:23Triple H better than Shawn Michaels, obviously.
00:38:25Miz.
00:38:26Ooh, good guess.
00:38:28No, dear.
00:38:28That's wrong.
00:38:29Hang on, then.
00:38:30So the top four.
00:38:32All obvious.
00:38:34They're big names.
00:38:35All Rumble winners, obviously.
00:38:36Stone Cold Steve Austin.
00:38:37Are you guessing total cumulative?
00:38:39Are you guessing longest?
00:38:41Yes, total cumulative.
00:38:42Not a single time.
00:38:43I just wanted to clarify.
00:38:44What did you say?
00:38:45Stone Cold Steve Austin.
00:38:46No, dear.
00:38:46That's wrong.
00:38:47More on here in a little bit, though.
00:38:48Oh, excellent.
00:38:49So I've got to get four of the top five.
00:38:51Three of the top.
00:38:52Three of the top five.
00:38:53I've got Triple H and Chris Jericho.
00:38:54Yeah.
00:38:54And I said Kane.
00:38:56Well, I'll take The Undertaker.
00:38:59No, dear.
00:38:59That's wrong.
00:39:00I kind of knew that when I was saying it.
00:39:05One of them's a very recent edition.
00:39:07I hate this and I hate myself.
00:39:10Ziggler?
00:39:12What are you saying?
00:39:13No, dear.
00:39:14That's wrong.
00:39:15Rhea Ripley.
00:39:16Oh, this is...
00:39:17Just men's.
00:39:18No, dear.
00:39:19That's wrong.
00:39:22Edge.
00:39:23Number nine.
00:39:25No, dear.
00:39:25That's wrong.
00:39:29No treats for you today, Michael.
00:39:31Randy Orton?
00:39:33Bingo!
00:39:36Thank God.
00:39:40That's number three, by the way.
00:39:41You've got two and four.
00:39:42Bingo!
00:39:48Punk?
00:39:49Number ten.
00:39:50No, dear.
00:39:50That's wrong.
00:39:51I've rounded out the field.
00:39:52I just can't land on the big hitters.
00:39:54You haven't got seven.
00:39:57All right, then.
00:40:02Brock?
00:40:04No, dear.
00:40:05That's wrong.
00:40:09Cody?
00:40:11Bingo!
00:40:11Four.
00:40:12Yeah.
00:40:13You've got second place.
00:40:14Four hours, 39 minutes, and 17 seconds.
00:40:18This is the one I haven't got.
00:40:18Yeah.
00:40:19Somebody's done four hours in a Royal Rumble,
00:40:21and I haven't guessed them,
00:40:22and it's not some of the ones I've already said.
00:40:24What about...
00:40:25Sorry, I don't know if you want me to help you or not.
00:40:28Please?
00:40:29Kofi Kingston?
00:40:30Shout.
00:40:31No, dear.
00:40:31That's wrong.
00:40:32Ray Mysterio.
00:40:34Bingo!
00:40:35Yeah.
00:40:36The other one you were missing was...
00:40:38It's one of these funny ones where...
00:40:40I like the fact that the devil's got...
00:40:41Kath Kidson tissues, by the way.
00:40:45San Luis.
00:40:47Seamus or King Seamus, obviously, sir.
00:40:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:50So I'll give you that.
00:40:52But yeah.
00:40:54God.
00:40:55You think it's going to happen, but you don't want it to happen?
00:40:59Jericho?
00:40:59Yeah.
00:41:00I think it's going to happen and don't want it to happen.
00:41:03I want it to happen.
00:41:04Both things are true.
00:41:04I don't care.
00:41:05I just don't...
00:41:06Like, I don't want...
00:41:08I'll tell you what, right?
00:41:09I don't love the narrative when people spin ages as being this reason not to be people in main events, right?
00:41:16Like, the WWE main event crew...
00:41:18Yeah.
00:41:18Being 48, 47, 46, whatever, is absolutely fine if the stars feel fresh and new.
00:41:24Yeah.
00:41:24So it's not Chris Jericho's age that works against him here because he's been gone from WWE since 2018.
00:41:30Like, that's a longer gap.
00:41:32That's like...
00:41:32That's three times the gap he took in the 2000s when he came back as solve the mystery, solve the clue.
00:41:39Crack the code.
00:41:39Crack the code, save us 222.
00:41:41Like, three times...
00:41:43It's ages.
00:41:44That's longer than...
00:41:47No, that's nearly the same amount of time that Hulk Hogan was gone between the red and yellow and then the entire NWO happening and coming back in 2002.
00:41:53Like, these are big, massive gaps we're talking about.
00:41:55There's value to that.
00:41:57I don't dispute that.
00:41:58But, um, I just got nothing, less than nothing, out of his matches and angles for the vast majority of his AEW time.
00:42:06Like, I think people have, like, made a choice to sort of split it into half good, half bad, and it's not weighted evenly for me.
00:42:13Okay.
00:42:13It's way more bad than good.
00:42:15Like, I liked, I liked without loving Le Champion and the Inner Circle, and I genuinely loved a lot of the stuff he did in 2022.
00:42:23And he had a bit of a renaissance.
00:42:25Yeah.
00:42:25Him and Moxley had one of my favourite matches and all that.
00:42:28But, he's way lower.
00:42:30Like, his importance to the company, undeniable.
00:42:32But, the work I enjoyed, like, nominal.
00:42:36And I don't need somebody else just clogging up the cards.
00:42:41Yeah.
00:42:42And he does.
00:42:42He takes a spot.
00:42:43He takes a spot.
00:42:44Like, this is it.
00:42:45I can say all this knowing that he's kind of, like, worthy of the...
00:42:49Like, he's going to get a spot.
00:42:50He is.
00:42:51But, I'm not interested.
00:42:52I'm not particularly interested in seeing him.
00:42:54I will hold my hands up if he, like, kind of delivers these matches and these moments that just remind you again of why.
00:43:00Like, it'll be through gritted teeth at first.
00:43:02I'll not want it to work.
00:43:03Yeah.
00:43:03And then he might win me round and, like, sigil up my life.
00:43:06Because it's going to be like, oh, you like Chris Jericho now, do you know that he's back in the Fed and I'll have to go, yes, I do.
00:43:12That's how my brain works.
00:43:13But, I wouldn't sign him if it was up to me.
00:43:16I'm just not arsed.
00:43:18I'm not sure if you know this about Chris Jericho, but he wants to beat Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock in the same night.
00:43:25Yeah.
00:43:26But, speaking of Stone Cold Steve Austin, who cares about him when there's Dominic Mysterio around?
00:43:31He's defending the IC title on this show.
00:43:33Odds makers, still weird that you can bet on this sort of thing.
00:43:36Odds makers have him pretty much a lock for defending in this triple threat match with Penta and Rusev.
00:43:42So, we can talk briefly about that.
00:43:45But, your thoughts on Dave Meltzer's take that Dominic Mysterio is the new Stone Cold Steve Austin.
00:43:51That's the smartest thing.
00:43:52Hang on, I think there's a button for this.
00:43:54And, I mean, folks, where's the lie?
00:43:59I love that Dave Meltzer has said this.
00:44:02Because, in spite of factors, Dave Meltzer still means an awful lot to me.
00:44:08And was, and is, like a tastemaker in his own way.
00:44:11Maybe less so now, or in a very different way, or so only a certain fraction of the audience.
00:44:15But, was kind of the tastemaker of my youth.
00:44:18And, I love that he said this.
00:44:20Because, I feel it.
00:44:21And, I think, I made it.
00:44:23I can't remember if it was Austin.
00:44:24I think I could use The Rock, didn't I, as a comparison.
00:44:26On Raw this week.
00:44:28Yeah.
00:44:28So, maybe Dave's just listening.
00:44:29Probably.
00:44:30You know, it's like, can I copy your own work?
00:44:32Yeah, but change a bit.
00:44:33So, he said Steve Austin instead of The Rock.
00:44:34But, you're very welcome.
00:44:37The esteemed Dave Meltzer, for who, which we thank you for this entire industry.
00:44:43I love that he said it.
00:44:45Because, I've been feeling it.
00:44:47Like, the momentum that Dominic Mysterio brings to every segment and matches in.
00:44:51Is that potential freight train, like, that you've just got to kind of allow.
00:44:57Yeah.
00:44:58Plough through a territory.
00:44:59I understand why, well, not just Triple H, the notorious time-taking booker that he is, would take his time.
00:45:06But, I wonder if they're constantly going back to the table and deciding, right, what's the ceiling?
00:45:12Because, I think it just got a bit higher.
00:45:14What's the ceiling this week?
00:45:15Because, I think it just got a bit higher still.
00:45:16When are we going to start entertaining the prospect of WWE champion Dominic Mysterio?
00:45:19For the first time in a while.
00:45:22I've flipped up there.
00:45:23Well, because Cody Rhodes is such an excellent QB, right?
00:45:27The idea of him not being WWE champion hasn't been something to consider for quite a while.
00:45:30Yeah.
00:45:30But, even when Roman won it at 39, we were, you know.
00:45:34It's just delayed the inevitable.
00:45:35Yeah.
00:45:36We were agreeing, in our disagreement, that Cody gets there in the end, right?
00:45:41He gets there.
00:45:42Then, the whole mess with John Cena occurs.
00:45:45But, you can sort of rationalize it if you wanted to.
00:45:47But, Cody's the guy.
00:45:48He's lending John Cena for a bit.
00:45:50Yeah.
00:45:50You can map out a route in which Punk beats Cody, and then Mysterio beats Punk.
00:45:56Yeah.
00:45:57Punk.
00:45:58And, they do that program that's kind of simmered since Punk came back.
00:46:01You could map out a scenario in which Cody and Punk happens.
00:46:04Cody wins the feud.
00:46:05That's fine, by the way.
00:46:06They have the match.
00:46:06They have a definite winner and loser.
00:46:07Punk goes off as a heel or changes or whatever.
00:46:10And, Dominic takes the belt from the quarterback.
00:46:13You know, like, just...
00:46:14He's going to be the one finally to get it.
00:46:15It's Dominic Mysterio.
00:46:16Yeah.
00:46:17You haven't got a story.
00:46:18You're a nepo, baby.
00:46:20That's not finishing the story, mate.
00:46:21But, like, the swell and the rise and the kind of unstoppable force that is a Dominic Mysterio, like, hype train.
00:46:28And, I am so on it and in it and whatever the metaphors are.
00:46:32Like, he is one of the most exciting prospects of me heading in at 2026.
00:46:38And, it's not like he's had quiet 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022.
00:46:42Yeah.
00:46:42That was when he lost his shoe up edges, Gooch.
00:46:452022.
00:46:46You know, like, we're three years into the push and it's been supremely successful.
00:46:53And, as I say, the ceiling just keeps getting higher for it.
00:46:56Was it 38 where he fought his dad or 39?
00:47:0139.
00:47:0238.
00:47:03He teamed with Rhea against The Miz and Logan Paul.
00:47:06And, the kind of narrative was, God, Dominic Mysterio has completely hit a wall.
00:47:11He's a complete jabroni loser.
00:47:12Other than when he was, like, of course, going through warp vortexes with his dad.
00:47:16That was class.
00:47:16Logan's outworked him on his first night.
00:47:18Yeah.
00:47:18You know, like, that was, you know, they did that spot in 2021 in the Thunderdome where Roman just, like, remember he just, like, hooded by the ring.
00:47:26Flying.
00:47:27And, he got thrown into a wall when his dad was getting checked over by some medics as well.
00:47:30Yeah.
00:47:31By Brock.
00:47:32Rocket, wasn't he?
00:47:32I didn't feel we were talking about that earlier.
00:47:33Just this guy to batter.
00:47:35And, then he joins the judgement day, obviously.
00:47:37And, then, I distinctly remember going, well, he's going to have this match with his dad.
00:47:41And, he has the amazing entrance and all that.
00:47:43Yeah.
00:47:44His dad beats the crap out of him.
00:47:48I thought, well, that's been fun, hasn't it?
00:47:50Bye, Dominic.
00:47:51Yeah.
00:47:53Fade into obscurity.
00:47:54Now, I've got, I was saying to Phil on the news, I've gone past, Dominic Mysterio should have the money in the bank briefcase.
00:48:02He's going to be perfect for earning.
00:48:03That's the endorsement that he's going to be a world champion.
00:48:06I'm like, I can't wait until September next year to do this.
00:48:09Get on with it.
00:48:10And, like, him not winning the briefcase is a concentrated push, isn't it?
00:48:14Yes.
00:48:14It's far more in service of a character that's gotten massively over in a whole new way.
00:48:20That you actually just map out a push, a run.
00:48:22Yeah.
00:48:23Not just a guy with briefcase that picks his spot.
00:48:26It's like, no, no.
00:48:26Dominic Mysterio is the Intercontinental Champion.
00:48:28And, when you lose that title, historically, what does that mean?
00:48:31On to bigger and better things.
00:48:32And, Dominic can get on to them.
00:48:33I don't think he loses here, by the way, to get us back on track with a preview.
00:48:36No.
00:48:37And, I wouldn't mind this being the end of all of this.
00:48:40But, Dominic coming out on top of it all is, I think it's, like, perfectly good booking of him on his journey.
00:48:46Yeah.
00:48:46I think if it had been many other people with this formulaic of one person costs the other person costs the other person costs the other person, then the heel thinks, I'll make sure no one wins and then there's no one to fight against at the pay-per-view.
00:49:01Oh, surprise, you're fighting both of them.
00:49:04Again, to reference my old Roderick Strong prediction from a takeover from about five years ago.
00:49:10I think there's an element of, like, yeah, obviously you do that also because Pena and Rusev just want to fight each other as well.
00:49:16Want to stop the other one from winning.
00:49:18And, like I say, anyone else where it's, like, okay, they're going to go in.
00:49:22They're both going to beat the crap out of him.
00:49:24They'll be, like, let's settle in between us.
00:49:25And then it's going to devolve into, I don't know, a huge Mexican destroyer.
00:49:30Destroyer, but then, thanks very much, Pena, throws him out, pins a pin to Rusev, whatever it might be.
00:49:36Anyone else, I'd be like, here we go.
00:49:37I'm like, let's see it.
00:49:39Yeah.
00:49:40It's like, it's an effort I will give them.
00:49:44I've loved some, not like the rest.
00:49:45It's an effort to kind of bring some of this mid-card back to life a bit on Raw, isn't it?
00:49:50Yeah.
00:49:50With Dominic on top of it as well.
00:49:52Pena and Rusev look great as well.
00:49:54Rusev in particular.
00:49:55Rusev's had his moments in this one.
00:49:56He won you over, hasn't he?
00:49:57Yeah, he's like, he's turned a corner with this.
00:49:59I don't know if it's just a sense of focus around it.
00:50:01And Penta's, Penta's a WWE success story in 2025.
00:50:05There's not many of them.
00:50:05Yeah.
00:50:05Penta's one.
00:50:06Like, Penta's in a great spot.
00:50:08He was in one when he debuted.
00:50:10He's remained in one.
00:50:12He's a definite drop-in world title contender.
00:50:15Easy.
00:50:15That's when they need him.
00:50:16Like, almost to the extent where they've hid that.
00:50:19You know, he ran in at Money in the Bank, didn't he?
00:50:22And that's the kind of closest he's come.
00:50:24Because he was, like, sort of feuding with Braun, I think it was.
00:50:27So, that was what brought him into the attention of the Vision and Seth Rollins and everything.
00:50:30But otherwise, they've been quite patient in kind of keeping him away from that.
00:50:33He was, he didn't work at the Elimination Chamber, the men's, did he?
00:50:37I don't think so.
00:50:39So, no.
00:50:40Anyway, the point stands, even if he did, this is a guy that you can still plug into a world title program.
00:50:45Kind of whenever you want.
00:50:46Yeah.
00:50:47He's a massively over and kind of captivating figure and has maintained and has stayed that way.
00:50:54Yeah, he wasn't in there.
00:50:55No.
00:50:56Cena, Punk, Rollins, Logan Paul, Damien Priest.
00:50:58The do.
00:50:59Yeah.
00:51:00Like, I'm sort of, I'm excited and hopeful for Penta's 2026.
00:51:04And not just because at some point there is the inevitable return of the Lucha Brothers.
00:51:08Like, I'm excited for him in the singles wrestling more.
00:51:11Yeah, he doesn't need it here.
00:51:12Dom works best.
00:51:14Leaving as Stone Cold Steve Dominic.
00:51:17Yeah.
00:51:18Steve Dominic?
00:51:18Yeah, that's how it works.
00:51:19You can workshop some of them there.
00:51:21If this gets an attraction that Dave said this, like a Dirty Dom 316 shirt, would sell out the Yates.
00:51:29That's my Christmas present to myself.
00:51:31Dirty Dom 619.
00:51:36Oh my God.
00:51:40But he debuts in San Diego against John Cena.
00:51:43And then beats him.
00:51:44And then beats him.
00:51:45Cena goes for 619 and falls out of the ring.
00:51:47Falls flat on his ass.
00:51:49But tears every muscle in his body can't work.
00:51:50It's their final match.
00:51:52Finally, undisputed WWE Championship.
00:51:54Cody Rhodes versus Drew McIntyre.
00:51:57Hoping for more between these two, I think it's fair to say.
00:51:59Yeah, and all signs point to us getting it as well.
00:52:04Like the Wrestle Pleaser match was a crushing disappointment.
00:52:06But the...
00:52:07I've already forgotten it.
00:52:08The suit fight.
00:52:09Smackdown was a great bit of business.
00:52:11The heat that they've kind of like plucked out of thin air has been legitimately impressive
00:52:16from both of them.
00:52:18And Cody winning feels like it puts to bed the challenge of Drew McIntyre that we kind
00:52:24of already thought was put to bed at Wrestle Pleaser.
00:52:26Drew will, as always, have his like blame game that he can play.
00:52:30We've talked on various Smackdown previews lately.
00:52:32The way you can kind of fantasy book Drew out of this scenario.
00:52:35We're still waiting.
00:52:37Drew Dragunov could be fun, couldn't it?
00:52:38Drew Dragunov.
00:52:40I think there's a babyface turn in Drew McIntyre's 2026 as well.
00:52:44But like we kind of waited nervously for the...
00:52:49It's a when, not if with Randy Orton.
00:52:51Yeah, good point.
00:52:52But legitimately when, question mark.
00:52:54Because like we're not running out of time.
00:52:58It's October.
00:52:58It's October 31st.
00:53:00In case.
00:53:00Yeah, in case you're in the way.
00:53:01People just joined us on YouTube.
00:53:03But you know, if you're going to do Orton as your holidays program.
00:53:09I've seen people booking him for Mania and I'm like...
00:53:11Insane.
00:53:11No, no, no.
00:53:14Insane.
00:53:14I love the fuse.
00:53:15Not for Mania.
00:53:16I'm a Randy Orton like a 2020 to be a present.
00:53:18Like a...
00:53:19Yeah.
00:53:20I've never come into loving him.
00:53:21It's Randy Orton.
00:53:22But I really, really enjoy Randy Orton.
00:53:26This era of him.
00:53:27From the moment he put his face in the camera in that weird way at the Survivor Series.
00:53:31I was like, you all right?
00:53:32You all right, you?
00:53:32I have to do something because people aren't going to remember me.
00:53:35Yeah.
00:53:36It kind of gone weird.
00:53:37I'm into it.
00:53:37And look at your massive.
00:53:38Look at your arms.
00:53:39Your massive.
00:53:40Where did those arms come from?
00:53:41Yeah.
00:53:42I don't want a lot for Christmas.
00:53:44There is just one thing I need.
00:53:45I don't care about the presents underneath the Christmas tree.
00:53:49I just want an RKO.
00:53:51More than you could ever know.
00:53:53Make my wish come true.
00:53:55All I want for Christmas is you, Randy Orton versus Cody Rhodes.
00:54:00How do you see this match going?
00:54:02Cody Rhodes win.
00:54:041-2-3.
00:54:04The big one.
00:54:05No shenanigans.
00:54:07No, like.
00:54:09Cody does something on route to victory that could be construed as not on.
00:54:17Like.
00:54:18He.
00:54:20Kind of spies an opportunity.
00:54:22I wouldn't even say works an injured body part.
00:54:24But he acknowledged that it wasn't him.
00:54:27And it wasn't.
00:54:28He was disappointed in himself for like using the belt.
00:54:29Yeah.
00:54:30And having the suit fight.
00:54:31Drew McIntyre has highlighted that the kind of referee.
00:54:33Stepped in and gave him a bit of breathing room.
00:54:35And Cody Rhodes has been like.
00:54:37And used that against Randy Orton.
00:54:38Yeah.
00:54:38Is what he's going to foreshadow here.
00:54:39Is that Cody's like ever so slightly.
00:54:41Started to embrace.
00:54:42Sneaking through the gaps a little bit.
00:54:43Once in a while.
00:54:44You know.
00:54:45And then.
00:54:45You're going to punt Drew in this match.
00:54:47Punt wouldn't be bad.
00:54:48Yeah.
00:54:48Like.
00:54:49Because the ref got in the way.
00:54:52Of.
00:54:53What did he get in the way?
00:54:54Was it Drew doing that to Cody?
00:54:56Yeah.
00:54:57Remember.
00:54:57No, he's going to kick him through the table.
00:54:59That was it.
00:54:59He's going to claim.
00:55:00Do the second Claymore again.
00:55:02And the ref stopped him.
00:55:03So something like that.
00:55:04Cody doing that to Drew.
00:55:05And the ref not getting in the way would be something.
00:55:07Because.
00:55:07Yeah.
00:55:08Perfect out.
00:55:09That is his perfect.
00:55:10Perfect out.
00:55:11And Cody's rationale is just.
00:55:12That's that could be the one you know.
00:55:13Because the whole rationale is like.
00:55:15Yeah.
00:55:15But like we've had the suit fight since then.
00:55:17It's gotten personal.
00:55:18It's different than where it was at wrestle.
00:55:20They all know the rules.
00:55:21If you fight someone in a suit.
00:55:22Then all bets are off.
00:55:23Yeah.
00:55:24And he should know that.
00:55:25Drew McIntyre should know that.
00:55:26Yeah.
00:55:26Come on.
00:55:27Based on the gimmick he was going to be given.
00:55:29He could have been a well-dressed man in fight.
00:55:31Oh God.
00:55:32Yeah.
00:55:32What was he called?
00:55:32The runway man.
00:55:33Runway man.
00:55:35And they were like.
00:55:36Because it was.
00:55:37Model.
00:55:38What was it called?
00:55:39Project Runway was big wasn't it?
00:55:40Was it?
00:55:41Well.
00:55:42You know.
00:55:43In an era where.
00:55:44Total Divas and Total Ballas gave them like an enormous crossover.
00:55:47I could sort of see them looking towards a show like Project Runway.
00:55:50And think we need a wrestler that does that.
00:55:51And Drew McIntyre's tall.
00:55:54They got it eventually with Tyler Breeze.
00:55:56Yeah.
00:55:57But like young Drew.
00:55:59Like Drew's height.
00:56:01Fifty pounds.
00:56:02I'm also lighter than when he came back.
00:56:04Like.
00:56:04I sort of get it.
00:56:05Flowing hair.
00:56:05Yeah.
00:56:06Clean shaven.
00:56:06Yeah.
00:56:07So I do sort of get it.
00:56:08I'd love to imagine because he said.
00:56:10He didn't say no.
00:56:11He said you give me this.
00:56:12I'll do the best I can with it.
00:56:13He was there when Laurinaitis pitched it to Vince.
00:56:15And he said he could see it on my face.
00:56:18Yeah.
00:56:19Just.
00:56:20Which is funny isn't it?
00:56:21Because if you think the idea is that them two abhorrent people slapped on folk.
00:56:27How many times did they not see that face?
00:56:29Oh I think sometimes they saw the face and went.
00:56:31No I think actually sometimes they saw that face.
00:56:34I have absolutely no idea where it is on this.
00:56:37They saw that face.
00:56:38They saw the face.
00:56:38They saw the face.
00:56:39When they look at the face they saw the face and they said.
00:56:41We're going to do it anyway.
00:56:44Yeah.
00:56:47I.
00:56:48One day.
00:56:49One day.
00:56:50But not today.
00:56:52We'll do a proper look back through some of that stuff.
00:56:55I love it.
00:56:56The more we talk about it the more I feel like there is a window starting to open up.
00:57:00In my heart.
00:57:01We watched a clip at my desk yesterday of something from 2018.
00:57:05When the coach got in trouble.
00:57:07And then like because he got Bo Dallas mixed up with Rhino.
00:57:10Easy mistake to make.
00:57:11And then because he got buried by Michael Cole and Corey Graves.
00:57:15Then was like well it's the stupid CameraWorks fault.
00:57:17So you've gone from probably getting in trouble in the headsets off.
00:57:19Like Vincent Mann screaming at you.
00:57:21And like Cole bury him now.
00:57:23Bully him.
00:57:23Bully him.
00:57:24To then doing like.
00:57:25Well it was him anyway.
00:57:27You've just gone for Kevin Dunn.
00:57:28Yeah.
00:57:29Smart guy.
00:57:29And also the cameraman will be like.
00:57:31Oh thanks very much mate.
00:57:32It's not bad at my job am I?
00:57:33Yeah.
00:57:33You're the amateur.
00:57:34But now you're putting it on us.
00:57:35Just this like horrible edgy toxic.
00:57:38What did you call it?
00:57:39You said bully.
00:57:39It was like bullying will probably work.
00:57:41I'll fix this.
00:57:42Yeah.
00:57:43Everything's the worst.
00:57:44The whole thing's the worst.
00:57:44Oh by the way.
00:57:45The match is Braun Strowman winning a tag team battle royal by himself.
00:57:48When he beat the whole division.
00:57:49Yeah.
00:57:50And then the bar were like.
00:57:51Oh no.
00:57:53Still only one of him lads.
00:57:57You don't need to sell for you.
00:57:57You see that like they're like oh there's secret santa for a coach sorted.
00:58:02We'll give more mock up for Bo Dallas for you.
00:58:04The rhino on the box.
00:58:05It's good.
00:58:05There you go dickhead.
00:58:06Yeah.
00:58:07Never even made it to Christmas.
00:58:08He was gone before that.
00:58:09Yeah.
00:58:09Exactly.
00:58:10Different time.
00:58:12A better time in my opinion.
00:58:17Weird.
00:58:17Weird energy today because you're ill.
00:58:19I'm on like too much cold medicine.
00:58:21You are trying your best and I love how professional you are.
00:58:24And then when you turn into the devil.
00:58:27It's your regular.
00:58:28This is what I'm on about.
00:58:30Good luck to that Man United fan again.
00:58:35Forest this weekend.
00:58:36Winnable.
00:58:38Not the.
00:58:39Of course.
00:58:39Man United don't have the easiest running over the next 10 games.
00:58:42Do they?
00:58:42Who would that be?
00:58:43That would be Liverpool.
00:58:44So don't screw it up.
00:58:45Opta said so by the way.
00:58:47The 10 easiest next fixtures based on all data.
00:58:52Is Liverpool.
00:58:53I thought it was you.
00:58:54No that's.
00:58:55That's every week apparently.
00:58:57I mean there might be some credence to that as it turns out.
00:59:00Because we're now at the bottom of that.
00:59:01We've got.
00:59:02Oh right.
00:59:02We've got the 10 hardest.
00:59:04Apparently.
00:59:05So.
00:59:06Which.
00:59:07Does stack up.
00:59:08But I guess it means Liverpool are just going to play.
00:59:10Teams that are underperforming.
00:59:12I don't know what data points they've used.
00:59:14But like.
00:59:14Presumably like.
00:59:15Teams that would like.
00:59:16Not be able to score against them.
00:59:18Opta power rankings.
00:59:19Yeah.
00:59:19I don't know what defines the opta power rankings.
00:59:22But.
00:59:23Liverpool should be comfortable.
00:59:24Like 30 points out of the next 30 for Liverpool.
00:59:26Yeah.
00:59:27And book us fave five.
00:59:29Yeah.
00:59:29Yeah.
00:59:30But the Smackdown.
00:59:32Man United fan thing.
00:59:34Continues.
00:59:34Yeah.
00:59:35We'll be back on that next week.
00:59:36We're looking for a fourth good Smackdown.
00:59:37A fourth win for Man United.
00:59:39And then this.
00:59:39Then the stakes are so high.
00:59:41So high.
00:59:42There are people.
00:59:43Suggesting that he doesn't want it to end.
00:59:44I don't think that's true.
00:59:45There's a bit of me that I get it.
00:59:47That his name is perpetually associated with this.
00:59:50And what do you do after this?
00:59:51You kind of want to go on top though don't you?
00:59:52Yeah.
00:59:53It's peaking.
00:59:54You don't want it to be like.
00:59:55Three.
00:59:56Four years.
00:59:57Or you have to like.
00:59:58I've got a wedding.
00:59:59I kind of have to cut my hair.
01:00:01Oh you know what you'd have to do don't you?
01:00:02Like you'd have to like get those awful.
01:00:05Like Sean Paul Ron Swanson when he goes back out with Tammy in Parks and Rec.
01:00:10Just to get it down.
01:00:12Just to get the hair down.
01:00:13Like what's it called?
01:00:14Cornrows is it?
01:00:15Oh my god.
01:00:16You'd see his scalp the poor guy all of a sudden.
01:00:19Because he'd have to like get it.
01:00:20As you say like there'd be a wedding or something that he needs it a bit tempered for.
01:00:24I can't fit through a door anymore.
01:00:25I think he's already been getting like hair products.
01:00:29Yeah people have been sending him stuff haven't they?
01:00:31Like straighten it.
01:00:32Sure I saw a clip of him.
01:00:33No he was like.
01:00:34Yes but there was one way he was like mooching this.
01:00:36And it was probably like the moment I'm using this wavy hair product stuff.
01:00:40And it immediately made it look miles better in terms of like taking the volume out.
01:00:43Yeah it's proper frizz in it otherwise.
01:00:45But he would want that to continue.
01:00:47You think?
01:00:48Well yeah.
01:00:48I don't know it just feels like it's.
01:00:49He could go out on top here couldn't he?
01:00:51Hammer and cut his hair.
01:00:53On the pitch.
01:00:54Next home game.
01:00:55That's true yeah.
01:00:56The barber's chair.
01:00:57The Red Devils of course.
01:00:59I had a barber's chair in the pitch for half time.
01:01:01That'd be something wouldn't it?
01:01:01Yeah.
01:01:02Mr. Devil I have a question.
01:01:03Yes.
01:01:04Why do you keep putting the fork in front of your face when you talk as the devil when
01:01:08you're already the devil?
01:01:10Like Satan's prison.
01:01:12But he likes prison because he's the devil.
01:01:13Yes.
01:01:14Not me.
01:01:15I like it.
01:01:18Satan I have a question.
01:01:19We'll go for lunch now.
01:01:21Three gates of an interchange like that.
01:01:23I'll take them.
01:01:23I say.
01:01:24He's going to say will you eat your food with that.
01:01:27Yeah.
01:01:29Three sausage rolls.
01:01:32Sausage souls.
01:01:33You had me three sausage souls.
01:01:36Satan I have a quick question.
01:01:37Yes.
01:01:37Why when you started this podcast were you a ghost?
01:01:41Because it works better for hello.
01:01:45You got like hello.
01:01:46It's a bit like oh I'll turn it off straight away.
01:01:47Hello.
01:01:49Intrigue.
01:01:49Thank you Satan.
01:01:50Retention.
01:01:51I was going to say so basically Satan's kind of a numbers guy.
01:01:54Yeah.
01:01:54He's a download.
01:01:55Big fan of the podcast.
01:01:56Well he isn't.
01:01:57He's seen the charts mate.
01:01:58Why not put a sticker on your podcast and just say it's number one?
01:02:03That's what the inferior ones do.
01:02:06And they belong in hell.
01:02:07I've got a story to tell you about that but I'll tell you afterwards.
01:02:10For the time being now.
01:02:11Speaking of attention listeners love that.
01:02:12Yeah.
01:02:13This has been the.
01:02:15So what did we say?
01:02:17Stab a day.
01:02:19Stab a day is a new one.
01:02:20I know.
01:02:21We didn't know anything for the first bit did we?
01:02:22Stab a day.
01:02:23Fright.
01:02:24Fright.
01:02:25Vein.
01:02:26Vein.
01:02:26Evilent.
01:02:27Evilent.
01:02:28Preview.
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01:02:48At me.
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01:03:00Do we have to?
01:03:02Yeah.
01:03:03Anyway you want to do.
01:03:05I mean.
01:03:05Have a nice Friday everyone.
01:03:07Uh.
01:03:09What do I do now?
01:03:10Wrap it up.
01:03:11Wrap it up.
01:03:11Wrap it up.
01:03:11Wrap it up.
01:03:11Back later with uh.
01:03:13Halloween Wrestle Culture.
01:03:14Can you disappear into like a.
01:03:18Puff a smoke.
01:03:18Puff a smoke.
01:03:18Puff a smoke.
01:03:20Hang on.
01:03:20You haven't used that once I was going to say.
01:03:26Bye.
01:03:26Jesus Christ.
01:03:28Jesus Christ.
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