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00:00Let me ask you also about the UK. We've got an important Labour Party conference today,
00:03speech going to be delivered by the UK Prime Minister. What appetite do you think the investment
00:09community has right now to pile in to UK equities? The valuation play is there.
00:15The valuation play is there.
00:15But not necessarily the growth.
00:18That's fair. The valuation play has been there for quite some time. It has to be said.
00:24But perhaps for investors who want in particular high dividend yield stocks, it is it is rich
00:32hunting ground. But overall, the economic prospects of the UK are somewhat limited and
00:39challenged. I thought it was quite interesting this week that AstraZeneca decided to do its
00:43listing on the New York Stock Exchange as opposed to London. What does that tell you about companies
00:48perception of liquidity and appetites in the UK right now? I think companies are concerned about
00:53the discount that their stock has if they are listed here in the UK. Perhaps CEOs are also
00:59concerned about remuneration, which is less here than than over there. So this is something which
01:04has been impacting. AstraZeneca is the latest company to voice this concern. But there's been others in
01:11the past. And that's one of the reasons why we are a bit more cautious about the UK. Really, some of the
01:17fundamentals are lacking there. Do you think the IPO dynamic is integral to attracting more investors
01:24into the broader markets? We think it helps. Definitely. Yeah, it does help when it comes to
01:28European equities. You said he still said you said that you're still into the fiscal story. And yet that
01:35was a theme, I would say, a couple of months ago. Why do you think it still has legs for European
01:40economy? Well, the Ministry of Finance in Germany has explained how it was going to disperse the money.
01:48And we know that it's going to be front loaded. We know it's coming very soon. And we know that it's
01:53going to go to areas which are going to benefit from economic growth with a high multiplier effect,
02:01such as, for instance, 22 billion in the real system. And that should improve efficiencies,
02:05should improve the ease of doing business in Germany. And so that will have a positive impact
02:11on the German economy, but also broader in a broader sense on the European economy.
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