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We Have a Very High Bar For M&A: E.L.F. CEO
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00:00
Susan, I'll start with you because this is your first brand campaign, global brand campaign,
00:04
as we mentioned, since you were acquired by Elf back in 2023. So why now? Why in 2025 are you
00:12
launching this? Well, thank you first off for having me on the show today. This is really
00:17
important to us. When we were first acquired by Elf, we were only at 5% penetration, which means
00:23
that there is a lot of room for us to really get out there and get our name out to
00:28
consumers. But it really took a second for us to focus on distribution, work with the Elf team and
00:36
really get our bearings. And so we've started to really expand globally and make that a focus. So
00:42
now it's time for us to really get the marketing out there. Well, Turing, let's talk about that a
00:47
little bit more because Elf has been pretty inquisitive over the past couple of years. And
00:51
when it comes to especially the distribution piece, what can Elf bring that maybe some of these brands
00:57
that you bring on couldn't have necessarily done on their own? Well, first of all, we have a very high
01:03
bar when it comes to M&A, just given the strong organic growth of our existing brand portfolio.
01:08
Every one of our brands grew this last year. And so when we look to M&A, we really look to our vision
01:12
of building a different kind of beauty company, one that builds brands, that disrupts norms,
01:17
shapes culture and connects communities. And we very much found that with Notorium.
01:22
And our approach is different. Our approach is not to overly integrate any of the acquisitions
01:27
we do, but to actually support a founder's vision. Susan Yar has an incredible vision for Notorium.
01:33
And so one of some of the things that we can do to help her accelerate that vision is we were able
01:37
to expand the brand into all Ulta Beauty, into Boots, additional customers, invest more behind the
01:45
marketing and enhance the team. And so those are the areas that we've stayed focused on.
01:49
I am curious, Tarang, just about just general trends right now. We've talked a lot on this
01:54
program about the idea that Gen Z, which has been, I think, a big driver of Elf's growth,
01:59
that they may be pulling back just a little bit from some of their beauty purchases,
02:04
not necessarily in terms of volume, but certainly on a price basis. And I'm curious as to how
02:07
if you're seeing that on your end. Well, I think we're different that way. We're by far the number
02:13
one brand amongst Gen Z. I think we're a 35% mind share. The second highest brand is 9%.
02:19
And so we have real strength in Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and Millennials. And so we continue. I mean,
02:25
I think this last quarter, we announced our 26th consecutive quarter of net sales growth.
02:30
We're also the only brand to grow market share for 26 consecutive quarters. So we continue to be strong,
02:37
and mainly because we have the brands that Gen Z, Millennials, and Gen Alpha want, and we know how
02:43
to engage them. Well, Susan, I do want to talk to you just about kind of your evolution and, you know,
02:49
founding this company, you know, what is it, five, six years ago, whenever it was. And the idea that
02:53
you sort of tapped into a certain zeitgeist at the time, particularly with some of the younger
02:58
buyers, but also with people even, you know, of my generation who are looking for, I guess,
03:03
cleaner beauty products. And at the same time, you know, we don't necessarily want to pay, you know,
03:08
300 bucks, you know, for a La Mer, you know, lotion or something.
03:12
Exactly. Well, I'll throw out there just to add to what Tarang was saying. You know, the industry
03:16
doesn't need more beauty brands. They need really great beauty brands, not generic ones. And so I
03:21
think that's where we stand out a lot and why we loved joining Elf Beauty as well. For me, you know,
03:28
I had been online for a very long time. I'm one of the adults online is what I like to joke and say.
03:34
I've been online since before YouTube was owned by Google. So I, you know, I really have had the
03:40
opportunity to see what my viewer was purchasing, what kind of products they really were gravitating
03:46
towards, the ingredients, the price points, the retailers. So that was something that we really
03:50
took into account in forming Notarium and creating these products. But for us, you know, it really comes
03:57
down to consistency. We want our consumer to be consistent with their skincare routine because that's
04:02
when they see true results with their skin. So we wanted to make sure that we created biocompatible
04:07
products, meaning that your skin actually recognizes the formulations, the pH levels are really great
04:13
for your skin. They're clinically effective and they're at price points that make a lot of sense.
04:18
And so I think that really has stood out to our consumer.
04:22
I hear what you're saying. I consider myself chronically online as well. And I do want to talk a
04:27
little bit about how you reach new customers because there is the TikTok of it all. You,
04:33
of course, just heard your held your first in-person pop-up event. And from what you've seen so far,
04:38
I mean, what is the ROI reaching someone on the internet, on their phone versus being able to
04:44
actually get a sample, get product into their hands physically?
04:47
Well, we know that our products are phenomenal. They're really great. They're great price points.
04:54
And once we get them into the hands of a consumer, they're going to come back and repurchase. So our
04:59
repurchase rate is about 50%, which is much better than our competitors that tend to be about at 30%
05:05
repurchase rate. So we just want to make sure that people are trying our products and see just how
05:10
great they are. That's why this pop-up is really important. Yes, it's good to have campaigns on social
05:14
media and to talk about education, let people know why our products are different, because there
05:19
really is so much to say about our products because we formulate them very thoughtfully.
05:23
But it's when a person tries the product that we are in, they become part of our community and they
05:29
trust us and they come back and purchase more and more of our products. And Turing, I'm curious,
05:33
you know, from where you're sitting, what you're seeing in terms of consumer demand when it comes to
05:37
skincare, which of course we're talking about with Naturium versus beauty products. I think when most
05:42
people think of health, they think of makeup naturally. But when you look at your portfolio,
05:47
do you see any trends emerging there? I think one thing that we see is a blurring of the lines.
05:53
You're now having makeup products that have many more skincare benefits. You've got skincare brands
05:58
including some hybrid approaches. So what we're seeing is there's a huge appetite, particularly
06:03
amongst Gen Z, Gen Alpha millennials for both color cosmetics and skincare. And we've been seeing
06:10
both markets rise. So Turing, as we sort of move forward in this evolution, I guess the question
06:16
is, what types of acquisitions, if at all, would you be looking to make going forward?
06:22
Well, I'd say it's similar to Naturium. We're in our most recent acquisition, Rode. Brands that are
06:27
disrupting the industry. I mean, Naturium went from zero to $100 million in less than two years.
06:32
Rode went from zero to $212 million in less than three years. And so these brands that break through,
06:40
and are really resonating with consumers, is our first focus. The second is, we want them to be
06:45
able to meet our vision of disrupting norms, shaping culture, and connecting communities.
06:50
So very strong orientation in terms of delighting our communities. And of course,
06:55
just real confidence in the quality of the products and how much white space is ahead.
07:00
And Sarah, and I want to, excuse me, I want to just give you the last word here. And this is really
07:04
just about the idea of expansion and sort of where you think you can take Naturium. And at some point,
07:09
we get this idea that, okay, if you have enough product lines and enough areas here,
07:14
I mean, what becomes of that? Can you envision this as a company as more than just what you have
07:18
now? Or is it just about deeper penetration with the existing lineup of products?
07:23
I mean, we want to be a household name, and we will be. And this is something I promised
07:27
Terang a couple of years ago when we first started talking. Global expansion is a very big priority for
07:33
us. Right now, you can find us in the United States in big retailers like Ulta, Target. We're
07:38
also on Amazon. In Canada, we're in Shoppers Beauty. We're also in Space NK and Boots in the UK.
07:45
And now we're about to launch in Sephora in Australia. I'm actually headed there next week.
07:51
And it's just a really important portion of our business is to make sure that everyone really
07:57
gets the opportunity to try our products and use our products because we really do feel like
08:02
everyone deserves their skin.
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