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00:00You'll be Europe's largest IPO in three years. I mean, this is not nothing. It's quite a big deal.
00:04What gives you the confidence to launch such a large IPO in Europe when so many are going to the U.S.?
00:11I think for us, this is, you know, next logical step in the journey.
00:16I mean, we sold our first alarm system 35 years ago. Like, it's been quite a long march.
00:21I took over as CEO more than 11 years ago, and we always knew that one day we'd get to a level of scale,
00:28an international presence, where the natural home of the company would be public markets.
00:34You know, we're now 5.8 million customers, 17 countries.
00:39We're about to open Mexico, as you noted in your earlier remarks.
00:43So we've come a long way from, like, being a small Swedish alarm company.
00:47So we think this is just the logical step next.
00:49Do you have a date for your listing?
00:51Next few weeks.
00:52And what does that change for the investor base going forward?
00:56I think it's going to, in a way, diversify us.
01:00We're going to be exposed to a broad range of Swedish and institutional investors
01:03who hopefully will be with us for the long term.
01:06That's very important because Verisho has always been a long-term growth story.
01:10I mean, if you look at track record, you know, more than a decade of double-digit revenue
01:16and recurring revenue growth, we've actually guided to about 10% annualised revenue,
01:24recurring revenue growth in the medium term.
01:26That's going to continue.
01:28Again, the reason is because there's a basic penetration point.
01:32Penetration of monitored security systems in our footprint is about 4% approximately today.
01:37That compares to the U.S. at 23.
01:40So you look at that penetration and you say, well, there's just a big runway that we can go after.
01:45I mean, there's a number of, you have a number of competitors, right?
01:48There's a number, it's an industry where you have many entrants and many players.
01:52Why do you succeed, actually, in countries that matter?
01:55Like, what's the secret sauce to making it happen?
01:59I think there's three things that are in our playbook.
02:02I mean, the first one, which people often underestimate, is the importance of technology and innovation.
02:07So we're vertically integrated in our own technology stack.
02:10We spent last year about 150 million on our tech programme.
02:15That's about 1,700 staff.
02:18It's engineers, it's programmers, it's designers, it's product managers.
02:23We've got three technical centres.
02:25The largest is in Malmo, Sweden, where we started.
02:28Madrid and Geneva.
02:29What they're basically producing is, we believe, superior solutions.
02:35And, you know, we've got a relative scale.
02:37We're five times bigger than the number two player.
02:40We think, in a way, it makes it easier for us to afford that scale of technology investment.
02:46But is it pricing?
02:48Is it, again, is it marketing?
02:50There must be something that you're doing better.
02:51Well, I think it's better solutions.
02:53And we're therefore able to invest significantly behind those innovations with strong market and support.
03:01We spent about 240 million euros last year on demand creation.
03:05That's about 7% of sales.
03:06That turns into very strong levels of brand awareness across the key countries.
03:12But more importantly, what it means is that we take about two-thirds of the net category growth.
03:17We actually think of ourselves as like the market maker.
03:20And that's complemented with a very strong sales organisation.
03:23So, we have about 12,000 security experts in the field.
03:27I think it's the biggest sales force in Europe.
03:29You've, I mean, you have quite ambitious growth targets.
03:32We talked about the acquisition in Mexico.
03:34How much more acquisitions do you want to do compared to organic growth?
03:38I mean, the last piece of M&A I did was eight years ago.
03:42It's actually not really a core part of our plan.
03:46It's always been a tiny part of the growth.
03:49We view ourselves really as organic growth compounder.
03:51Mexico, actually, it's a bit of an outlier.
03:56We had been looking at Mexico as a greenfield entry.
03:59Already had a team.
04:01Already had leased a building.
04:03And then, you know, JCI created this process.
04:06And we looked at the Mexican asset.
04:08And it was a good quality asset.
04:11Generally, when we look at M&A opportunities,
04:14the companies that we look at, they tend to be less attractive.
04:17They tend to have lower profit.
04:18They tend to have higher attrition.
04:20The Mexican example was a bit of an outlier.
04:23So we've always told investors, you know,
04:26don't view the Mexican move as a change of strategy.
04:29We're still going to be very much focused on organic growth.
04:33So prior to this, you were 26 years at Procter & Gamble.
04:35I was.
04:36So how did that shape the leader you are today?
04:39I think I loved my time at Procter & Gamble.
04:43I loved the talent.
04:45I loved the culture.
04:46I loved trying to serve consumers, right, in a better way.
04:49I've tried to bring that consumer centricity to Verisure,
04:53along with an amazing team.
04:54And actually, I think my P&G colleagues would recognize the P&G playbook in Verisure.
05:01It's about innovation.
05:02It's about building a brand and advertising.
05:04And it's about great sales execution.
05:06And it's about having a great customer experience.
05:09What's been the hardest?
05:10Final question, because I know you have things to do after this.
05:12But I can speak to you for a long time.
05:14Is there, what's been hardest, actually, in preparation for the IPO?
05:18Have you had to change the boards?
05:20You know, have there been changes on the leadership level?
05:23I think, in fact, we've been preparing for this move for a long time.
05:27You know, we've had a lot of publicly traded debt.
05:29You know, I've done quarterly earnings calls for bondholders for a decade.
05:33I mean, I think I've done 44 of them.
05:35You know, we've always tried to prepare to one day be a public company.
05:39And so internal processes and so on, we're always geared at that level.
05:43Remember, although we're a private equity-backed company,
05:46we've had the same sponsor for a long time.
05:49I mean, this has been an 11 to 12-year relationship.
05:51So we've always had a long-term view.
05:54Now, board composition is changing.
05:57You know, we've increased the number of independent directors over the past few years.
06:01You know, we had Andrew Barron, Dominique Renish as our senior independent.
06:06We brought Graham Piquetley, the former Unilever CFO, on board as our audit committee chair.
06:12And we recently appointed Sarah Arval, highly respected Swedish executive and board member.
06:18So the board starts to get more independent.
06:20And obviously, as the institutional investors sell down over time,
06:25the board composition will change further.
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