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Verisure IPO to Take Place in 'Next Few Weeks,' CEO Says
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00:00
You'll be Europe's largest IPO in three years. I mean, this is not nothing. It's quite a big deal.
00:04
What gives you the confidence to launch such a large IPO in Europe when so many are going to the U.S.?
00:11
I think for us, this is, you know, next logical step in the journey.
00:16
I mean, we sold our first alarm system 35 years ago. Like, it's been quite a long march.
00:21
I took over as CEO more than 11 years ago, and we always knew that one day we'd get to a level of scale,
00:28
an international presence, where the natural home of the company would be public markets.
00:34
You know, we're now 5.8 million customers, 17 countries.
00:39
We're about to open Mexico, as you noted in your earlier remarks.
00:43
So we've come a long way from, like, being a small Swedish alarm company.
00:47
So we think this is just the logical step next.
00:49
Do you have a date for your listing?
00:51
Next few weeks.
00:52
And what does that change for the investor base going forward?
00:56
I think it's going to, in a way, diversify us.
01:00
We're going to be exposed to a broad range of Swedish and institutional investors
01:03
who hopefully will be with us for the long term.
01:06
That's very important because Verisho has always been a long-term growth story.
01:10
I mean, if you look at track record, you know, more than a decade of double-digit revenue
01:16
and recurring revenue growth, we've actually guided to about 10% annualised revenue,
01:24
recurring revenue growth in the medium term.
01:26
That's going to continue.
01:28
Again, the reason is because there's a basic penetration point.
01:32
Penetration of monitored security systems in our footprint is about 4% approximately today.
01:37
That compares to the U.S. at 23.
01:40
So you look at that penetration and you say, well, there's just a big runway that we can go after.
01:45
I mean, there's a number of, you have a number of competitors, right?
01:48
There's a number, it's an industry where you have many entrants and many players.
01:52
Why do you succeed, actually, in countries that matter?
01:55
Like, what's the secret sauce to making it happen?
01:59
I think there's three things that are in our playbook.
02:02
I mean, the first one, which people often underestimate, is the importance of technology and innovation.
02:07
So we're vertically integrated in our own technology stack.
02:10
We spent last year about 150 million on our tech programme.
02:15
That's about 1,700 staff.
02:18
It's engineers, it's programmers, it's designers, it's product managers.
02:23
We've got three technical centres.
02:25
The largest is in Malmo, Sweden, where we started.
02:28
Madrid and Geneva.
02:29
What they're basically producing is, we believe, superior solutions.
02:35
And, you know, we've got a relative scale.
02:37
We're five times bigger than the number two player.
02:40
We think, in a way, it makes it easier for us to afford that scale of technology investment.
02:46
But is it pricing?
02:48
Is it, again, is it marketing?
02:50
There must be something that you're doing better.
02:51
Well, I think it's better solutions.
02:53
And we're therefore able to invest significantly behind those innovations with strong market and support.
03:01
We spent about 240 million euros last year on demand creation.
03:05
That's about 7% of sales.
03:06
That turns into very strong levels of brand awareness across the key countries.
03:12
But more importantly, what it means is that we take about two-thirds of the net category growth.
03:17
We actually think of ourselves as like the market maker.
03:20
And that's complemented with a very strong sales organisation.
03:23
So, we have about 12,000 security experts in the field.
03:27
I think it's the biggest sales force in Europe.
03:29
You've, I mean, you have quite ambitious growth targets.
03:32
We talked about the acquisition in Mexico.
03:34
How much more acquisitions do you want to do compared to organic growth?
03:38
I mean, the last piece of M&A I did was eight years ago.
03:42
It's actually not really a core part of our plan.
03:46
It's always been a tiny part of the growth.
03:49
We view ourselves really as organic growth compounder.
03:51
Mexico, actually, it's a bit of an outlier.
03:56
We had been looking at Mexico as a greenfield entry.
03:59
Already had a team.
04:01
Already had leased a building.
04:03
And then, you know, JCI created this process.
04:06
And we looked at the Mexican asset.
04:08
And it was a good quality asset.
04:11
Generally, when we look at M&A opportunities,
04:14
the companies that we look at, they tend to be less attractive.
04:17
They tend to have lower profit.
04:18
They tend to have higher attrition.
04:20
The Mexican example was a bit of an outlier.
04:23
So we've always told investors, you know,
04:26
don't view the Mexican move as a change of strategy.
04:29
We're still going to be very much focused on organic growth.
04:33
So prior to this, you were 26 years at Procter & Gamble.
04:35
I was.
04:36
So how did that shape the leader you are today?
04:39
I think I loved my time at Procter & Gamble.
04:43
I loved the talent.
04:45
I loved the culture.
04:46
I loved trying to serve consumers, right, in a better way.
04:49
I've tried to bring that consumer centricity to Verisure,
04:53
along with an amazing team.
04:54
And actually, I think my P&G colleagues would recognize the P&G playbook in Verisure.
05:01
It's about innovation.
05:02
It's about building a brand and advertising.
05:04
And it's about great sales execution.
05:06
And it's about having a great customer experience.
05:09
What's been the hardest?
05:10
Final question, because I know you have things to do after this.
05:12
But I can speak to you for a long time.
05:14
Is there, what's been hardest, actually, in preparation for the IPO?
05:18
Have you had to change the boards?
05:20
You know, have there been changes on the leadership level?
05:23
I think, in fact, we've been preparing for this move for a long time.
05:27
You know, we've had a lot of publicly traded debt.
05:29
You know, I've done quarterly earnings calls for bondholders for a decade.
05:33
I mean, I think I've done 44 of them.
05:35
You know, we've always tried to prepare to one day be a public company.
05:39
And so internal processes and so on, we're always geared at that level.
05:43
Remember, although we're a private equity-backed company,
05:46
we've had the same sponsor for a long time.
05:49
I mean, this has been an 11 to 12-year relationship.
05:51
So we've always had a long-term view.
05:54
Now, board composition is changing.
05:57
You know, we've increased the number of independent directors over the past few years.
06:01
You know, we had Andrew Barron, Dominique Renish as our senior independent.
06:06
We brought Graham Piquetley, the former Unilever CFO, on board as our audit committee chair.
06:12
And we recently appointed Sarah Arval, highly respected Swedish executive and board member.
06:18
So the board starts to get more independent.
06:20
And obviously, as the institutional investors sell down over time,
06:25
the board composition will change further.
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