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Stocks Are in a 'Euphoric Moment,' Says Novogratz
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I just want to get your commentary on what's happened in the last 48 hours with the sell-off
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and the volatility that we have seen. How do you explain it? Yeah, listen, there are a few
00:08
things that happened. One, crypto had a pretty awesome few months, right? I mean, Ethereum went
00:14
up almost 3x. Solana went up a ton. And so markets at one point get a little bit long and it takes
00:22
just a little bit for people to get nervous and some of the leverage to come out. We saw what
00:27
looked like some big Chinese mining selling. You also had Arthur Hayes, who's one of the
00:34
real thought leaders around crypto. He put out a pretty bearish commentary around Hyperliquid.
00:40
Hyperliquid is the only token in the top 10 that didn't exist a few years ago, right? It's
00:47
a decentralized version of Binance, if you want to think about it. And it's a pretty spectacular
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story with the amount of growth it had. And Arthur said, hey, wait a minute, I think it's
00:57
gone too far. The founders are going to sell. And so Hyperliquid really got hit the hardest
01:03
and that, I think, kind of hit some of the overall sentiment in the market. And so I think
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this is just a pullback. You know, crypto has been kind of soft. Bitcoin's been kind of soft
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because a lot of the action moved away from Bitcoin. But if you had told someone four months
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ago that you're going to be nervous with Bitcoin at 112, they would have had a big grin on their
01:24
face. Right. And so you have to keep things in context. We're still up significantly on
01:29
the year, both Bitcoin, ETH and Solana. Speaking of keeping things in context, a lot
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of people have been saying that crypto price movement can foretell stock prices as well,
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more broadly. You know, it's like a leading asset class. Do you subscribe to that? Do you believe
01:43
that? I'm not sure. Listen, I think sometimes it feels leading and sometimes it feels lagging.
01:49
Um, we are in a euphoric moment in stocks and there is a, a lot of, uh, excitement all around
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this AI theme. AI is powerful. It is going to change the way, uh, we do things. I was literally
02:07
just in a meeting with my management team talking about AI and Galaxy and every single C-suite
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in the world is having that same conversation. And so that creates bubble-like excitement.
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Um, and we've got valuations in the, in the NASDAQ and the S and P as high as we see them.
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And so it's a really hard market, uh, cause it's got huge momentum and excitement around
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a real story. Uh, but it's got valuations that get you really nervous and the interconnectivity
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of NVIDIA, open AI, Oracle, the vendor financing, you know, web, uh, that gets you nervous, uh,
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like valuation creating more valuation. Um, and so I think you've got a market that's,
03:00
that's nervous. That doesn't mean it's not going to go a lot higher, right? The last,
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the last leg of great bull markets always surprises people on how powerful it can be.
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And I'm not saying this is the last leg, but it very well could be.
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