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Mark, Johnny, and Wendy caught the theatrical re-release for Spider-Man 2.1, with extended scenes! Shout out to Jack Knives and Lan Moore, who they also hung out with that day.
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00:00Hey hey, Mark Rodriguez here with me are Johnny Rodriguez and the TV channel is on this.
00:22Jupyter is calling me with you.
00:24Yes, if you're watching the reviews, send them where everything and anything will be
00:28reviewed and we're going to give Wednesday a break this time and we're talking about
00:31Spider-Man 2 or Spider-Man 2.1 that was released in theaters for a limited time
00:37and we got to see it where? It was at the Century 18 movie theater at Sandstown.
00:44Yes, and we actually saw it with Jack Knives. He was you know too busy to come
00:47review it with us and everything but we saw it with him. It was pretty cool.
00:51We checked out the area, we checked out the Mystic Falls and it's kind of cool
00:55and we've been here a couple of times before but we never got to see the actual like like the
00:58water show. Waterfall show. With the music and the lights and all the animatronic animals so
01:03that was pretty cool and even though they didn't join us, he didn't join us for an actual movie
01:09we did meet up with Langmore afterwards and went to eat at the place. More!
01:13Yep, more! I mean went to eat at the uh Smokey Joe Cafe and everything and you know little,
01:19little things in there. I mean I was supposed to get a uh pulled pork meal for pulled pork sandwich instead
01:25but it was delicious. Yeah, but yeah I had the steak meal um and I'm sorry I mean cold salt was like
01:35super duper 100% bland and as a southerner that's a no-no man that's that's crime. It's supposed to have
01:42some flavor there. There was no real flavor. Okay. I only had the basic uh baked bacon and eggs
01:50type you know meal with the hash browns and uh what else did it have?
01:56Is that the fries were bland or something like that? Yeah actually because they need extra fries
02:00and I just had a taste of some of the fries and they taste pretty bland. Yeah. Yeah you know what happened
02:06is that it came with coleslaw. I wasn't sure what kind of coleslaw I liked and everything which in this
02:10case I guess it was a bland. So the original meal I told them to replace the coleslaw with fries so
02:16maybe that's why when they messed up with the thing they still gave us the extra fries anyway so
02:20whatever. Extra fries for us and more. And also with the base you were asking about pretty much
02:25all coleslaws have that kind of base. It's just extra flavoring to it you know whether it's going to have
02:31that vinegary taste or the more of the sweeter taste. Yeah. This had no taste. Wow. They went for option C.
02:38No taste. I think I would prefer that one since I'm not that big of a coleslaw fan. Yeah. So anyways
02:43on to the actual movie itself. It's fireman 2. It's the big wire movie and the big deal for us at
02:48least is the 2.1 version with extra deleted scenes that are in there and the movie's like long. It's
02:53like 2 hours 25 minutes and we're leaving all the extra footage and yeah a lot of the footage here
02:58you guys already know the story with spider-man and doc ock and the mary jane you know the relationship
03:03the will they won't they because you know peter doesn't want her to know that he's spider-man and
03:08the risk that comes with being with spider-man to go after and you know yeah that all that kind of
03:13stuff so we're going to go into more deleted scenes and for me there's a couple of parts that make
03:18more sense now um they did show more scenes fleshing out you know peter parker and some of the
03:24characters i think for me the most important part was um we went to the doctor after he lost his powers
03:29temporarily and the doctor mentioned stuff about like how it's all on his mind and and he has a
03:35choice and that kind of stuff i think that helped explain more because i think the original movie
03:40they might have mentioned a little some some but it did pretty much look like he just randomly lost
03:45his powers and then he randomly got them back so this gave us more yeah yeah but now that you
03:50mentioned that you know as i was watching it even before they extended that scene i was you know i was
03:56remembering it as i was watching it and i was remembering how i was feeling of my interpretations
04:01and i had that interpretation without that after context yeah unless uh you know i don't know i'm
04:07stereotyping i don't know if women pick up on stuff like that easier because it was more mental and he was
04:12also stressed and all that other stuff and you know when you're stressed or overwhelmed it can't affect
04:17you emotionally and all that other stuff so i actually got that when i really saw the movie yeah so i just
04:23figured that's why he lost his power but i had forgotten he lost his power until he started watching
04:27he was having trouble and you saw that everything that was affecting him was just so much on him
04:32where a normal person would just explode he was internalizing everything which affected
04:37how you know everything else and since unlike other spider-man other incarnations of spider-man
04:42where you know he had the canisters you make the canisters and this is all made within his body
04:48it makes sense why you would have trouble like yeah yeah and then the other thing too is that i
04:54i remember hearing about it but i didn't you know see it till now um the scene where dr octopus were or
05:00you know octavius at that point uh when he was first knocked unconscious after the big explosion that
05:05killed his wife and everything and he was still like in the hospital and they were gonna uh i guess saw
05:10off the uh the metal arms or whatever um the arms came to life and they attacked everyone and they just
05:16killed everyone and slammed them into things and whatever and i mean that didn't happen in the
05:20original but you're almost way more drawn out and yeah because of it on the screen it was more bloody
05:24i would say well there wasn't blood but it was more gory yeah like like very like horror movie-ish
05:31yeah i said when i saw it i said wait a minute and i was like asking mark and all those like
05:36is this scene longer to you because i remember it being shorter than this yeah that's the thing jack was a good
05:41help he was a good help in pointing out all the scenes because it's been so long since i've seen part two
05:46like i said back when we first bought a vhs or dvd or whatever and i and i've only seen it once and
05:51that's when it was originally out so yeah so yeah the original like they thought that was going to be
05:56too scary because there are still like a family kids movie like too scary for the kids so that's
06:00it was cut down so here we saw the whole scene you know and then of course the scene that was the
06:05craziest scene i've seen pictures but i thought they were like fake i didn't know it was real but oh my gosh
06:10when spider-man uh finally gave it up and he blew the costume away did the whole spider-man no more
06:16you know reference with the cover panel reference and all that and some random bum found it and gave
06:21it to uh jameson there's a scene that jameson is jumping around in the spider-man costume in the
06:27office with people looking through the window he's all pew pew pew and all that and i mean the movie is you
06:35know couple like 20 or so years old by now i think so i guess jk simmons was in better shape back then
06:41because i can't imagine him doing this now without breaking his back or whatever and even when you
06:47make the joke that he'll do it oh my back hurts that's right around yup yup you know it he's a menace
06:53liberty made me do he made me put on a suit and hurt my back oh man and yeah i don't remember any uphand
07:02other scenes that were more important i mean there was a scene where he was an elevator because he
07:06lost his power so he had to just use the elevator the regular way yeah that random dude i don't get
07:11the point of that oh i guess he was wasn't he like he worked like my brother yeah yeah you know so it
07:17like he was like a marketer and he would say hey man we can market you you can do this that that you know
07:22make it good you know get you more out there yes that was actually and i can understand why they would
07:27have cut that scene because it was it wasn't it wasn't very relevant yeah yeah and then of course
07:34you got the whole stuff now with mary jane which thinking i'm like back then whatever but thinking
07:40now it's like what the hell so in the last movie it was the whole thing where peter parker had to lie
07:46and be like he can't admit that he loves her because he doesn't want her getting into trouble
07:49even though she gets in trouble anyway and um like they have this whole scene where they're kind of
07:55talking you know like mary jane wants her to admit like peter isn't there something you want to say
08:00and all that kind of stuff and when that fails she's like oh by the way i'm dating someone
08:05yeah it's like what in the world and now they wanted to this movie i said that i remember i disliked
08:12mary jane but i couldn't remember why it was all that block out nonsense but as i was watching it and i
08:18was seeing that she said oh that's why i started to hate her yeah her character boy not cursing but
08:24the character so she wanted she wanted part parker to admit that she that he loves her but she's dating
08:31someone he's like how do you do that and then later when she's engaged and they're going to get married
08:36again in a couple of days he wants to be all like i changed now i love you now i have time for you now
08:42you know we consider to marry i'm like dude that's fucking douchey yeah and that's the main character
08:47we're supposed to you know be rooting for that's very selfish it was very selfish for him to put her
08:54in that situation yeah and then i'm 100 sure that one scene where even the bridesmaids were kind of
09:00talking to mary jane like like yo you're gonna marry this guy which is uh uh james's son the astronaut and
09:06it's like you know do you really love him but i love him love him oh yeah yeah she's like yeah she's
09:11like he did he all right if you say yeah yeah you shouldn't be getting married he's all right
09:21yeah mary jane um yeah she's kind of you know she was kind of annoying in this movie making a lot of
09:28bad decisions yeah the selfish ones too yeah and then also um i think that the some of the fight scenes
09:35and on the train with dr octopus and spiron man some of those are kind of going out i think well not
09:40going out but extended i should say yeah that was good action and it was a part where he was like
09:44hanging on the side of the train had to avoid certain things that part wasn't in the original
09:47oh it wasn't and everything it's hard to think it's a fight the whole fight was pretty awesome it was
09:51the best scenes fast-paced lots of action because even because watching that i couldn't tell you if there
09:57was anything added or not because i just couldn't remember i just remember like so much stuff was going on
10:02yeah that was a real badass fight and i said that was clever of him to do that like it's like um
10:09like he couldn't be done normally or it would maybe take too long so he just did that stuff with like
10:13breaking the train and stuff so that spider-man would just wear himself out trying to stop it and
10:17then when he's vulnerable then take him down and all that that was that was clever yeah smart yeah but
10:23okay so what else do you say but one last thing i do want to say is that movies have changed you know
10:30nowadays we're all used to the post credit scene they'll do that anymore so i'm thinking that this
10:34was like the rules made now this whole scene with um with harry finding out about his father that would
10:42have been the whole story yeah yeah so any thoughts in general johnny's action well the movie it's just
10:48it's good on its own even a lot the extra added but of course the extra added stuff makes it more
10:53complete it feels more i don't know just have a better conclusion of why things happen the way it
10:59happened um it just flows a lot better with story but i can understand why the original theater
11:06release they wouldn't be able to do the whole thing because you know for one one part of it is
11:12because you know it might be too violent for a lot of people to watch it because you know they
11:16consider it didn't work a kid's movie anyways and then everything because it would make the movie way too
11:22long yeah people don't always have the patience to watch a two hour and twenty so minutes long yeah
11:29back then movies weren't like at least not always that long it would be kind of weird that the first
11:34one wasn't that long the second one oh my god you know that kind of thing uh what do you want to say
11:38though about the movie is that at least in the beginning of it um it's like wow you have to have a
11:43lot of patience for people that want to see like you know the younger people that want to see just
11:47spider-man did we notice spider-man is buried in it during the first chunk of the movie like he's
11:53mentioned a lot it's implied a lot you know peter why are you so tired or peter why did you miss the
11:57date or whatever but but you don't see too too much of him actually being spider-man maybe just a little
12:03bit with the pizza and stopping some bank robbers or whatever but him actually you know like he didn't
12:09see more spider-man action until doc doc actually started showing up more and all the fights despite the
12:14bank to fighting the train stuff like that but i didn't find it kind of interesting that i guess
12:19it was essentially more about like how peter's life was kind of you know fucked up and depressing
12:24it was more character driven or a story building a character building than all the um action stuff
12:30it's kind of like the soap opera of peter partner yeah and his lack of love life
12:37i don't believe it's about it oh yeah and i kind of forgot about that until i saw it uh so what i
12:44thought of it i actually like this movie and you know thinking back on it i remember i thought the
12:49first movie was okay and out of the three just thinking about it now the second one had it was a
12:55good one because i really did like dog off i totally have forgotten so much about that you know i remember
13:01my feelings you know like i liked it but i don't remember everything and all the reasons why i liked it
13:06at like what's the name playing dog on i think he's a good actor um but i did have the problem with the
13:12fact that well i had a problem with all the movies with this one no matter where that web goes he's
13:18going to can't swing on something especially when he stays married jane attached himself to a clown and
13:24swung away and i know right so yeah and i hated the fact he kept taking his mask off i was like okay come
13:33my dude you you're supposed to be keeping yourself your secret identity you're already broke as crap
13:39if everybody knew who you were you know how many people come after you for collateral damage did he
13:43not watch futurama yeah that's a bad thing it usually happens in movies when it's like a superhero
13:51it has like their whole face covered they always gotta try to find some excuses to show off the face so
13:55people can be reminded that it isn't even wired under there and not just a stunt double
13:59see that's what i hate that though i hate that though i'm saying you come into the movie you should
14:03know who he is by now yeah tobey mcguire is playing um is playing peter parker who is spider-man
14:11boom done if you missed that part you bring it in and that's a that's a you problem no no but like
14:17there's just some place like there's just some place where he should not have been taken off his mask
14:21mask and it's like okay you you want okay you're trying to stop the train and you don't take off your
14:27mask you know how many people want to see this back oh that don't be crazy even that great he took off
14:34his mask in front of doc doc and then he surprised her mary jay and saw him like to mary jay was there
14:38the whole time you know i guess he forgot yeah but yeah he keeps doing that a lot but we just have
14:44so many moments i like to probably try to stop the train and the dean failed and and the random old that
14:49so you got any other bright ideas and yeah and i'll help you yeah and i'll say like yeah you come
14:55out here and do it dude do what i'm doing right now and then you shut up and say okay of course i'm
15:01going to say that because that would be like wait what you'll be too surprised you know realistically
15:06you know i'm trying to see you you're going to tell me you right and you jump on the train
15:11see how that helps no man no but of course with the day also the other thing i'll tell you i always
15:18like about these movies these these this original trilogy i love jk simmons so much he is awesome
15:27and still you know he's still amusing i love how he's no nonsense but he has a comedic way of like
15:33you know delivering the lines and all of that i did enjoy that but i said my least favorite part
15:38was to all the sub-fought with mary jane i thought it was selfish and i thought it was dumb i thought peter
15:43was just as dumb with the whole little hey can you make you go with me now i love you um i'm getting
15:49married anyway i love you you know and i will say this gosh this was so much better than that third
15:57one but we won't get into them yeah if we ever get to that one we'll get to them but anyways any uh
16:04final comments there johnny well i think the movie is so good for the time period that came out
16:09um obviously there are certain things that would be kind of dated because of the cgi effect yeah that
16:16grades and that kind of bugs me quite a bit because you know i understand because the movie was made back
16:23then but seeing it now with a modern lens it just it looks jarring a little jarring a little too cartoony
16:31as well like everything like you could tell like cgi is not perfect even to this day it's still not
16:39perfect but it's getting to the point in this film in particular that there are scenes you could
16:43actually tell that this is animated this is cgi this is like it just looks so fake yeah it's just
16:49interesting at the time it looks like whoa when they're looking at it now like like um johnny was
16:54saying it was so little you know so like cartoony a little bit especially like most of the dog ox
16:59stuff you can really you can really tell the train parts yeah yeah especially there were some scenes
17:04you could tell the whole scene was animated like spider-man docked off with the train yeah or the
17:08fact that with the way spider-man goes swings around anyway so yeah that's always kind of hard
17:12but it's kind of hard because the thing is spider-man he does move in such a weird way that even in real
17:17life if he exists like it would look to us it would look kind of cartoony but he does kind of what
17:22what yeah play it on the cloud oh okay i don't know what the cloud was but anyways guys uh yeah
17:30we're gonna sign off for now it's pretty cool and a special shout out to jack knives and also van
17:35moore um jack knives between us we're all making little jokes and commentary movie don't worry the
17:40theater was kind of empty so we weren't really bothering anyone with that and everything and it
17:43was cool just to hang out with more in general even though he did see us after the movie but anyways guys
17:47our great signing off here johnny rodriguez and this is winky see you guys
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