00:00All right, we are here with Gertie from The Real Housewives of Miami.
00:03Such a good season, and I'm so happy to see you healthy and thriving and just smiling all the time.
00:10You know, what have these last couple of years taught you, and what was your mindset going into this season?
00:15Well, lots were going on in the last two years, and the aftermath of cancer, I think people wanted to,
00:21people want to assume it's kind of like, okay, you're cured, everything's fine, and that's not the reality.
00:26The aftermath of cancer, as you saw a teaser of with Russell and I going to therapy, it's like, what just happened?
00:33Like, our life just, like, exploded, and now you're just picking up the pieces.
00:35And there's a lot that I don't share on camera as far as the things that I do go through, you know, physically with my body,
00:41because I'm an estrogen receptor.
00:43So, you know, the hot flashes, no one sees.
00:45You know, all that stuff happens, but, you know, you've got to look at the good in everything that you do,
00:50and that's the Gertie 2.0 version, you know.
00:53And this version of myself also comes with boundaries, like big ones and non-negotiable ones,
00:59and I don't have to negotiate for my self-respect and dignity and just, you know, my name.
01:05I've worked hard for this brand and my name as a person, and no one shall tear it apart.
01:11Thou shalt not pass.
01:12Exactly.
01:13Keep that love bubble intact.
01:15Keep only love in there, positive energy, everything.
01:18And speaking of, you know, Russell, fan-favorite house husband, everyone loves him.
01:23He's right over there.
01:25Head for head.
01:26How have you been able to lean on him through all of this, and what's your secret to a long, happy marriage?
01:33Keep it simple, stupid, kiss.
01:35That's what we literally base our relationship on, and it's natural.
01:39It's not like, okay, don't do this, and we're going to do that.
01:41Like, we're just, we're best friends.
01:45Every day, if we're not together, we're on the phone talking like lovers in high school back in the 80s.
01:50Like, it's one of those things, like, I'm like, what are you doing?
01:52Okay, did you eat yet?
01:53What are you doing?
01:53You know, we just talk.
01:55And every time we come home, we're like, I'm obsessed with him.
01:59He's the number one stalker, and he's my stalker.
02:01And so we still, so far, knock on wood, you know, like, love each other and want to be with each other,
02:08and I think that that's the number one thing, like, best friends slash lovers.
02:12I want to get into this week's episode.
02:14You know, you have your celebration party.
02:16There are some mixed reactions.
02:18So tonight, I feel that it is necessary for me to set the record straight by telling the truth and exposing the lies.
02:24What?
02:26Oh, my God.
02:31Can you talk a little bit about that?
02:35Well, again, this newer version of myself, you know, is not the people pleaser that I used to be.
02:40And it's a clear example of what happened with Julia and I that, you know, my kindness got taken advantage of,
02:47and people think that you're weak when you're kind.
02:50And so me coming on a boat on a cruise to be there for you as you asked me to,
02:55and now it gets spinned into I volunteered when I just got back from the same cruise.
03:00It doesn't track.
03:01And the fact that some people in the group are actually just nodding, like, yeah, that's what happened.
03:06And look at her.
03:07It's just, like, sad because I feel like I'm on the Truman Show.
03:10I'm like, hello?
03:11Is this real?
03:12Like, what's happening?
03:13And I just want to tell my side of the truth.
03:15But when it falls on deaf ears, you have me doing something like what I did at my party.
03:19And I want to set the record straight.
03:21This is me setting the boundaries and making it very clear that this is what we are going to do.
03:28We're going to be truthful.
03:29We are not going to play these gaslighting games.
03:32Oh, that came out of nowhere.
03:33Rule number one, you never send text messages because they save every single one of them.
03:37I hate texting.
03:39I'm the one that picks up the phone and tells you whatever it is I have to tell you.
03:42So guess what, Gertie?
03:44Especially now.
03:45I'm not going to be texting you.
03:46The passion that you had at my party, you had not one ounce of it at yours where the water throw happened.
03:55So now, all of a sudden, everyone's awake and ready to go and have opinions and be the judge and the jury.
04:01We can't move the goalposts every single time when it only applies to me.
04:06But yet, when it benefits their narrative or their version of it, they get to say,
04:11Oh, clutching pearls, how dare you?
04:14But I would say anything that happens at a wedding party without anyone stopping that person from behaving so unhinged,
04:21which the question is, why did that happen and why did no one do nothing?
04:26That's the question.
04:27So let's not divert to my stuff.
04:30Let's just talk about your stuff.
04:31Yeah, yeah.
04:32And I feel like there's been a lot of talk online about that double standard kind of with you and the other women.
04:37Like, they want you to forgive and forget, but maybe they're not as quick to forgive and forget other things.
04:42And I guess you're feeling that.
04:44I've tracked the way I said I was going to track.
04:46I am not going to let anything be a mood killer for me.
04:50I try to move forward.
04:51So after the water toss, you see me sitting down with her and I'm apologizing for like,
04:57Okay, well, I guess whatever I did, I'm apologizing for.
04:59Julia only apologized for throwing the water.
05:04My emotions got the worst out of me.
05:06It's not me, that person.
05:09But I'm very sorry for throwing the water at you.
05:12And, you know, I have no excuse for it.
05:17And I hope you can accept my apology.
05:21Not for the big foundation lie of her telling about me.
05:27That's huge.
05:29And then victimizing herself once, twice, and then make a pact with me that she said we're going to not talk about anything in front of the girls and what happens at the narcissist party.
05:39What she said she wasn't going to do, she gets to do.
05:41I was talking about my friend Gertie, who hurt me very, very much when somebody calls you horrible names.
05:50And it's kind of sticking your head, but you want to move past it.
05:53How do you forget it?
05:54So this is examples of someone just poking you, saying, I can do this to you because I know you.
05:59You're nice, and you're going to forgive after I'm done.
06:02No one gets to play in my face anymore.
06:03No one.
06:04And if you think that my party was so outrageous, get used to it.
06:08Buckle up.
06:09It's going to be a bumpy ride.
06:10And it's going to be under my terms, and I can do what I want at my party, which was a celebration of life.
06:15So anything that gets twisted into, it was about the C word.
06:20The C word is part of my life and testimony, so get used to hearing it because it is what it is.
06:25But don't twist it into something that it's not.
06:27It was a party.
06:28And I said goodbye to my family, and I did what I did about after party.
06:32Coming into the season before the water, throwing before all of that, you seem genuinely just confused about why.
06:38You know, you had no idea that Gertie, or not Gertie, that Julia was even upset with you.
06:42I just got home.
06:43I'm like, I'm literally unpacking.
06:44I'm with Russell.
06:45What's wrong?
06:46She's literally hysterical.
06:48Good friend that I am.
06:50Julia, what's wrong with Martina?
06:52She does not want me to know.
06:54She says, I will tell you on the ship.
06:57Manipulate her.
06:58And I say, okay, I'm going to go on the ship.
07:00I'm going to go.
07:00Why do you think she held on to this for so long?
07:03My darling, you want an exclusive?
07:05I sure do.
07:06The cruise happened before season six reunion.
07:13Wow.
07:14If you see season six reunion, she has my back.
07:17She's my friend.
07:18We have no issues.
07:19There was never a discussion about the cruise.
07:22What I showed on the board was exactly the only discussion about the cruise issue.
07:26There was one issue with the cruise that made me say, hey, I didn't like the way this happened on the cruise that you didn't make me preview to.
07:33All I did was express my confusion over a situation that happened on the cruise.
07:39I clearly said that I'm not mad at you, but this is how I feel.
07:42And you waited until after season six reunion a whole almost year.
07:48We pick up the cameras, and I am baffled for this to be what you come at me with.
07:54And I'm just thinking, hey, I'm getting my groove back.
07:56I'm going to have so much fun this season.
07:57I had no beef with none of the girls the entire hiatus that we were off the cameras.
08:02And so when I picked up, and I'm watching the show like a fan.
08:07I'm literally like, that's what they were saying behind my back?
08:09But then they were texting me like, hey, girl, how you doing?
08:12Mind blown.
08:13So there's a lot to answer to because why behave this way?
08:17Julia did kind of post this disclaimer about her behavior to come shortly after the premiere dropped.
08:22What did you think about that?
08:24I think that Julia was basing my reaction on what the old version of myself would do,
08:33which would be like, you know what?
08:34Let me give grace.
08:35I'm going to wait till the reunion.
08:36So 17 episodes until I tell my truth.
08:38And then I'm like, yeah, no, we're not doing this anymore.
08:41So I had to look within and literally say to myself,
08:44if you claim and talk about being this new version of yourself,
08:48why are you acting so old, like the old version?
08:51I had to make some changes.
08:52And those come with boundaries and people weren't expecting me to say,
08:55you cannot do this.
08:57This is not true.
08:58The Zoom call, I tried three times.
08:59I asked you for another number.
09:01The cruise, what?
09:02This is what happened.
09:03So now you get to see the whole truth because I individually ask people to listen to me
09:08and they would be like, yeah, you were both wrong.
09:11You should, yeah, Julia's really heard about what you did.
09:14And the gaslighting has to stop.
09:16And at my party, it was my turn to share in the celebration of just life
09:21and also being able to share my testimony, which includes cancer.
09:26I will say, I was like cheering you on when I saw like the immediate clapback
09:30with the receipts and everything.
09:32I was like, oof.
09:33I'm not going to take laying down anymore.
09:34So we're going to, we're going to need to teach you a little lesson.
09:38I hate to do this, but I texted you something.
09:42And when I say this word, set it up for me.
09:46Got it, got it, got it.
09:47When they go low, you go high.
09:48And sometimes when they go low, you go lower.
09:50This season, I was like everything.
09:52It's not the person I want to be, but I have to protect my peace.
09:54And I got to release what no longer serves me.
09:56I want to sleep at night and I'm tired of protecting other people.
09:59And this was the time I'm like, yeah, we're going to, we're going to clear that
10:02because I want to be internally stress-free.
10:04And that's, that is what it is.
10:06And truth hurts, I guess.
10:07A lot of people are spinning the truth into whatever they want.
10:10And it's not going to work.
10:11You have a very big announcement that you're making on tonight's episode of Watch What Happens Live.
10:15You have a memoir coming out.
10:17She is here.
10:18Oh, that's great.
10:21From trauma to trophies.
10:23From trauma to trophies.
10:24And the unforeseen events that refined me.
10:27Congratulations.
10:29Can you please, please, please tell me a little bit about it?
10:31Yeah, it's right over here.
10:33She's been working and keeping her head down for a long time.
10:36This is my baby.
10:39And the way I wrote this book is actually quite interesting.
10:42One, every week I have therapy.
10:45And every time I'm done with therapy, I write my notes about, like, these revelations about me.
10:51And I'm like, oh, that's why I do that.
10:53And I wrote this book week by week, session by session.
10:56And I just poured my soul into it.
10:58I started writing it a little bit beforehand.
11:00But then once the therapy session started coming, it was so easy to write.
11:04And the traumas that I didn't know I had from childhood, that, like, peeks its head into girlfriend groups and things like that.
11:12I'm like, wow.
11:14This is for anybody who feels like they don't belong.
11:18And all these events, like cancer, that redefined me, like, oh, my God, Gertie 2.0, what are we doing?
11:23What are we doing different from the past?
11:25I don't need hair.
11:26I have hair flashes every 20 minutes anyway.
11:28You know, screw the wigs, just being comfortable in your imperfectness and your imperfections.
11:35And this is me.
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