00:00and thank you for your time and congratulations on the movie really creepy
00:08your cinema is full of references to the 70s but this movie is a proper tribute to that genre
00:19and in the 70s porn and slasher exploded as a genre so where does the idea come from of mixing up these
00:33two genres well it was a couple things i wanted to make a slasher movie and traditionally slasher
00:41movies have always had this sort of exploitation of sex and violence in this kind of lowbrow sort
00:46of way um and i was trying to think of a way to do something a little bit uh i don't know more
00:53thoughtful with that i suppose and modernize that a little bit um and horror and porn they've always
00:58had this sort of symbiotic relationship of the outsider genres particularly in the 1970s you
01:03know you could make a horror movie or an adult movie and have nothing to do with the movie industry you
01:08can make it completely independently with non-famous people and you could go to movie theaters and you
01:13could show that movie and you could find a business for that movie um also i wanted to make a movie that
01:20really highlighted like my reverence for the craft of cinema so i wanted to make a movie about people
01:24making a movie but i didn't want to make a movie about people making a horror movie because then that
01:28would become too meta and it would just it would that i wasn't interested in that so i was thinking
01:32that in the 1970s when you made a adult movie you know you still had to make the rest of the movie
01:39it wasn't just the sex scenes it was a 90 minute plus movie that played in movie theaters that had
01:44all of the dramatic scenes even if they weren't great you still had to film them and the process
01:48of making a porn movie then versus now and very different and then it was just like making any other
01:53movie it just happened to have different subject matter and that was really kind of where the idea
01:57started from i want i would like you to talk about the the sound design of the movie because i think the
02:04sound design is the main responsible for the tension for a lot of scenes of the best scenes
02:10larry fessenden who made produced my earlier movies would always joke that you know in movies you had
02:15one image but you have 99 tracks of sound and so it was a budget friendly way to make things you know
02:21bigger and better but with this movie you really needed to feel like you were in the environment
02:25and so sound design is a big part of that and graham resident did a great job as far as all of the
02:30texas atmospheric sounds of crickets and cicadas and winds and all that stuff and that stuff
02:35you know what outside sounds like versus what inside sounds like and things like that and then
02:40you know this playing around with the idea of sounds you're familiar with and then manipulating them as
02:46the movie goes on as the movie starts to change all this stuff is very subtle and you wouldn't notice
02:51it outright but it leads to the experience that you're saying and you know a lot of times if you're in
02:56the dark what you hear is scarier than what you see and that's a big part of it and then
03:00tyler bates and chelsea wolf did an amazing job with the score kind of having this organic
03:04uh it kind of grows out of the sound design and out of the you know human being type sounds
03:08and that was all part of it is to try to give it a very um you know unique and identifiable sound to
03:15this movie so it didn't sound like you know any other movie that was out i don't know if this is true
03:21for you but for me in in a certain way um from the point of view of Howard and Pearl this is a kind
03:28of a love story and uh i i think you um uh you told that story in a very delicate and intimate way
03:35do you agree with uh this love story yes i mean that that was the goal was to it's a how should i put
03:41it it's an odd and unexpected love story um but that was what it was meant to be and and you know
03:46certainly the scenes when they're finally having sex was like when you're shooting that it was very
03:50much like there's a lot going on here there's actually this sort of love story that's being
03:54like their relationship is being repaired and then there's the like dark nature of how that's come to
04:00be and those are just interesting contrasts and whatnot and that was always the plan was it was to
04:06just do more or less what you're saying yeah
04:09you
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