00:00This is a movie with a lot of action, visual effects, but of course it's a movie about mutants, but also about man, vulnerability, humanity, so how much humanity does it take to be in humans?
00:14I mean, I feel like this movie, for me, was really more about the humanity of the characters and more about the emotion of the story and of the characters than it was about the spectacle.
00:28I mean, obviously, like you say, there is spectacle to this film, there's big visual effects, they go into space for the first time in the history of the X-Men, there's extraterrestrial characters for the first time in an X-Men movie, and a lot of the visual effects that you're talking about are actually practical effects, meaning they're in camera, they're things that we actually shot, like when they're fighting over a helicopter in the air, that's a real helicopter.
00:48The opening scene is visually beautiful.
00:51As not a visual effect in that opening scene.
00:53Wow.
00:54The car flying through the air is a car that we shot in an air cannon on a road outside of Montreal, inside the car, they're on a rig in a soundstage that's being spun around, with the actors really in it.
01:06Inside.
01:07Inside.
01:08Yeah.
01:09Yeah.
01:10So we, as much as possible, because I wanted the film to feel real and raw and immediate and immersive for the audience, I wanted the action to also be real.
01:21So I tried to do things, sometimes a little bit at the peril or jeopardy of my actors, within reason.
01:30I wanted things to be real.
01:32So scenes like the car crash, you know, are actually a car flying through the air and then actors and a rig being spun through the air.
01:41The chopper sequence is a chopper that's strung between two crane arms on a cable that can hold a 4,000 pound chopper.
01:48Those stuntmen are jumping into a chopper that's swinging back and forth in real life close to Michael Fassbender.
01:54Wow.
01:55And Sophie Turner, the sequence where Michael Fassbender comes charging through the wall with a subway car behind him.
02:00That's a real subway car that's crashing through the wall with explosives in the wall.
02:04I just wanted it all to feel real.
02:05This is insane.
02:06It's insane.
02:07There's no question it's insane.
02:08So not visual effect, actually.
02:10Very, very few.
02:11I mean, like space, I couldn't really shoot up in space.
02:13Thank you.
02:14But I didn't want to send the actors into actual space.
02:18But short of that, you know, yeah, I tried as much as possible.
02:22And maybe I am a little bit insane as a director, but I just wanted to do everything possible to make the movie feel real.
02:29And I think we live in a time, you know, where visual effects are so good, obviously, that audiences are used to seeing big visual effects movies where, you know, you're creating imaginary universes and galaxies far away.
02:41And I wanted to go in a different direction.
02:43And I wanted them to feel like, for the first time in a long time, the action would be real and visceral in the way that I wanted the movie to feel very visceral.
02:51And why did you choose Jessica Chesterton as a villain?
02:54We're living in this wonderful time where women can be protagonists and they can be antagonists.
03:00They can be the leads of movies, big movies.
03:03And, you know, as someone who grew up in the X-Men comics, there always were strong, strong female characters.
03:08In fact, some of the strongest female characters, Jean, Storm, Mystique, Rogue, Kitty Pryde, these are characters in the comics who were as strong as the male characters.
03:17And the X-Men movies that came before us were really focused on the male characters.
03:20It was Xavier, it was Magneto, and it was Wolverine.
03:24And I love those characters and I love those actors.
03:26But I wanted to do something different.
03:28And the Dark Phoenix story inherently has a female protagonist.
03:32So I wanted to really showcase the strong female characters that have been a little bit background in the previous movies.
03:38In terms of Jessica, I mean, there's probably no stronger woman in the world than Jess.
03:45I'd worked with her, I'd worked with Jessica on The Martian.
03:48I produced that film.
03:49We'd become friends after the movie.
03:51When I was thinking about writing this villain who could be both alien and human at the same time and be nuanced and have a power that was a quiet, confident, subtle power,
04:06the only person I could think about was Jessica.
04:08So I really wrote it for her, hoping she would do it.
04:10And then I sent it to her saying, look, I wrote it for you.
04:12If you say no, I don't know what to do.
04:14And luckily she emailed me back two days later saying I'm in.
04:19and had a ton of ideas for the part.
04:22And we're doing another movie together this summer.
04:25And we've really become partners.
04:28And she was a partner in constructing this character because it was a character we really created from the ground up together.
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