"Springsteen: Deliver Me from Nowhere" rechaza el formato biopic tradicional para enfocarse en la inspiración, el pasado y el movimiento hacia adelante. Se compara con la fluidez de un disco, buscando una conexión táctil.
00:00Bienvenidos a M2, hoy es un programa muy especial.
00:29Estamos aquí en el Jersey Shore y en este lugar, The Stone Pony, es donde Bruce Springsteen comenzó su carrera, es donde comenzó, porque vivía muy cerca de aquí, a vivir una cantidad de cosas espectaculares.
00:42Y bueno, a partir de aquí es la historia de esta nueva película, Bruce Springsteen, Deliver Me From Nowhere, música de ninguna parte, que bueno, hemos tenido el privilegio de entrevistar tanto a su protagonista, Jeremy Allen White, como a Odessa Young, una actriz australiana maravillosa que también nos platica acerca de su personaje, Pey, y por supuesto al director Scott Cooper.
01:03Así que los dejamos con las entrevistas y regresamos para comentar un poquito más acerca de esta belleza.
01:09El experience of doing the film here and actually doing even the press here, it must have brought you very close to the story itself, right?
01:18Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, a lot of the environments, a lot of the sets and locations, yeah, we're very close to Bruce, specifically this one.
01:28This is where Bruce grew up performing in bar bands, the Castilles, and then many times with the band, with the East Street Band.
01:37He met Patty, his wife here, yeah, there's a lot of history.
01:42Scott just told me that when he knew he was finally going to be able to do this and he told Bruce about you, he said that he's perfect.
01:49Yeah, I couldn't believe that, yeah.
01:51Well, I can, but tell me a little bit about how you found that out.
01:54Yeah, you know, it's interesting, you know, I met with Scott maybe a couple months before I ever knew about this, before I ever heard about this project.
02:04And I was just a big fan of Scott's and we wanted to find something to do together.
02:08I didn't know what that was going to be.
02:10And he didn't explain it to me.
02:12And I loved the script and I loved Scott.
02:15And then at a certain point, Scott goes, you know, Bruce really wants you to do this.
02:19And then I said, why didn't you just tell me that in the first place?
02:23And that, that really changed my mind.
02:26I thought, you know, if he's comfortable having this story told and if he's behind the movie and if he's with you, Scott,
02:33and if he's with you, Scott, and if he really wants me to do it, then, you know, I think we can, we can try.
02:40We have to try.
02:41It's also not a story everybody knows.
02:43Yeah.
02:44And when we think about like, this is not a biopic itself, but stories about the great musicians and artists that we've loved for so many years.
02:51There's usually a story about excess or drugs.
02:53This is about emotions, you know, and, and stories with the family.
02:57So that must've been.
02:58Yeah. Yeah.
02:59Bruce never had that.
03:00It's funny.
03:01You know, everybody's familiar with Bruce Springsteen.
03:04And I think you think of these, these rock stars, you think of the Stones and even the Beatles.
03:09And, you know, you, you, you think of like Elvis and, and they had their troubles with drugs and booze and fights.
03:19And, you know, you think of all this stuff.
03:21Bruce was incredibly focused.
03:24He wouldn't do anything that would get in the way of his ability to make music.
03:29He didn't even smoke cigarettes, you know?
03:31Um, and yeah, this story is about the creative process, um, finding inspiration, um, revisiting the past, uh, and, and, and finding a way to, to move forwards.
03:45One of the things I love about the movie itself, it's that I think it has sort of a similar trajectory as Nebraska did because it's telling the story it wants to tell for the right reasons.
03:55Yeah.
03:56And nothing's stopping you guys from doing that.
03:58Yeah.
03:59I think, you know, we wanted to tell a story, you know, that was very like raw and, and, and, and simplified.
04:06Um, you know, a lot of this movie is, is a man, you know, walking around a house on his own.
04:12Um, and, and that's how he made, uh, that's how he made the record in Nebraska.
04:17And I think Scott did a really beautiful job in the way that he filmed it with our DP Massa.
04:22Yeah.
04:23Um, and also in the edit, I remember when I watched the movie for the first time, I felt like the fluidity of the filmmaking and moving around in, in different time periods and settings.
04:33Um, it reminded me a lot of, you know, the way when you listen to a great record, you've got imagery and maybe you've got some memories and you've got kind of like things you're thinking about or things going on, but it's all kind of fleeting and fluid.
04:47And, um, and I felt that way watching the film for the first time.
04:50I was like, Oh, this is like, listen to a really great record.
05:02And that the fact that, you know, you're telling the story right here where it all happened.
05:07That's right.
05:08I know you're obviously a Bruce Springsteen fan from your life.
05:12Oh, yes.
05:13So how does it feel?
05:14Because I, I just get the feeling this is like a dream come true for you first.
05:18It is.
05:19And it's incredibly rewarding.
05:20Uh, Bruce's record in Nebraska had a great deal of, uh, special resonance for me, uh, for many reasons.
05:27And to be able to tell his story, he said no to so many overtures for, uh, for many wonderful directors to, to tell parts of his story.
05:35But, uh, now that I've made the film, I've released it in, in, in some fashion.
05:41Um, and people have come to me to say, Scott, this, this really moved me.
05:46It's the greatest gift.
05:47Well, I'm one of those people.
05:48And.
05:49Oh, thank you.
05:50I feel, I feel very much that the movie itself, it's a similar kind of story as the album Nebraska is not made.
05:57I don't know if in the emotions, but in the fact that this was a film that was made about Bruce Springsteen, which is not, you know, a big commercial thing.
06:07It's something very personal, right?
06:09Yes.
06:10I mean, I think it's, it's, it's probably more expected or easier to tell a story about born in the USA or born to run.
06:17And I think those could be remarkable films, but I chose a very short and intimate and specific chapter in Bruce's life.
06:26That tells in his own words, the most painful chapter of his life.
06:31And out of that painful chapter, when Bruce was compelled to, to look inward and to write what I think is a masterpiece.
06:41Uh, it changed not only Bruce's life, uh, but it changed mine.
06:46I know music can do that when you're really open to it.
06:50And these days music, I think it's a different experience for so many people.
06:53The way we get it, the way we, we consume it, uh, going back to a single cassette.
06:59I think that's such an important story to tell to the new generations.
07:04Have you gotten any feedback from that?
07:05Oh yeah.
07:06Many people, I think, uh, a younger generation might, my children, uh, included, uh, are yearning for that kind of feeling of nostalgia and connection that isn't on our phone.
07:16That isn't on our phone. That's artificial. It's digital.
07:20You want something tactile. They can feel whether that's a cassette that Bruce recorded Nebraska on, whether it's a piece of vinyl.
07:28It's, it means something because we're living in an era when, uh, we're just bombarded by information all the time in the digital sense.
07:36And, uh, unfortunately I think it's, it's changed the nature of who we are.
07:42It's changed the nature of the way we connect. It's changed the nature of the way we consume music, certainly movies.
07:51When people are doing this all day in endorphin hit after endorphin hit, they no longer have the patience to sit back.
07:57Right.
07:58And watch the Godfather or watch a film that, uh, is more patiently paced, more deliberately paced.
08:04But, uh, I sense that this younger generation is yearning for that.
08:09I'm with you. The Jeremy's. Wow. Those two Jeremy's.
08:13I mean, when I first heard about Jeremy playing Bruce, I was like, and then I saw him and I cannot imagine anyone else now.
08:20Oh, I'm so happy to hear that.
08:21How did you get to him though? How did you get to him?
08:23Well, I was well aware of Jeremy as a, as a young actor.
08:26I think he did such fine work. He has a vulnerability and an intensity and a humility that he shares with Bruce.
08:34He also shares a swagger with Bruce that you can't teach at acting school.
08:39He moves like Bruce. He looks like Bruce in 81, 82 about this time, their bone structure.
08:45And when I shared that idea with Bruce, he said, that's the guy.
08:50Uh, to finish. I think when we see stories, not just the biopics, but stories about musicians and what happened to them and how they got where they are.
08:59It's usually about excesses and a lot of drugs and alcohol. Here it's about the weight of emotions, I believe, and the relationship with his father.
09:07It is.
09:08That is so emotional to me as well. Um, is that one of the reasons you wanted to tell the story?
09:14It's precisely the reason I wanted to tell the story. It's a, it's a story about an artist who's wrestling with the question of how honest he can be in his work, in his life.
09:23It's a neglected soul who repairs himself through music. His father was very cold and dispassionate towards him because his father suffered a mental health crisis that went undiagnosed for years.
09:38Um, Bruce was, was striving for connection. And the only way that he could make that connection was to give that connection voice. And that's to write the songs, Nebraska.
09:50We just went through a wonderful trip with Faith because I think she's very much in many ways, every girl, right?
10:14every girl right yeah i know she's based on different women but i so as i was hearing you
10:21you made her your own right yeah yeah i think you know because she's not a specific person
10:27from bruce's life um that i could you know like look up or call or have a conversation with or
10:33something um i was given a lot of generous freedom by scott and by also by bruce who was kind of
10:40giving his blessing to things that we were doing in the movie to just kind of make her what she
10:45needed to be for the story which i think is just somebody who was very um trying to lead by example
10:52in a fearless way could kind of see the ways that bruce was led by fear and trying to guide him away
10:59from that well she certainly does um and i know you can paint for this role or at least i heard that
11:05how did that go how do you find that it went well i guess
11:09i know the movie there's everything that we need to see but how was the experience for you
11:17it was very nerve-wracking and very vulnerable and i think that as an actor you have to um
11:22because you deal with so much uncertainty and so much rejection and so much kind of putting yourself
11:29out on the line and then trying to protect yourself against uh giving too much of yourself away there's
11:36like all of these kind of you're always in a balancing act of like vulnerability and self-protection
11:41and i think when i sent this letter i really needed to make a decision that um i wasn't going to
11:49i didn't want to protect myself it just remained important to me to to try not to uh mitigate my own
11:58experience at the risk of seeming like a little too nerdy or uncool about bruce or like a little
12:04too excited or something like this is a big deal for me and i want to treat it like that
12:09ahí lo tienen no se la deben perder vean en cine si puede y les les recuerdo no es una película que
12:17sea un biopic completo no es la historia completa de su vida es un momento muy específico acerca de este
12:22álbum tan maravilloso y tan único que es nebraska que bueno hizo entre 1981 el mundo lo conoció
12:28realmente 1982 y luego todo explotó bruce springsteen dijo que tenía que ser como él nos decía jeremy
12:35allen white le encantó que fuera él quien lo representaba y francamente tiene toda la razón
12:40del mundo el jefe con eso nos quedamos por hoy muchísimas gracias desde jersey shore aquí
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