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We're diving into the world of late-night and daytime television, exploring those unforgettable moments when prominent hosts completely shifted their perspectives on major issues. Join us as we examine public figures who evolved their views on everything from social commentary to personal responsibility, proving that even the most established voices can change their tune over time. Get ready to witness some truly surprising transformations!
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00:00we're all like one millisecond away from being john the baptist welcome to miss mojo and today
00:06we're looking at outspoken talk show hosts who changed their stance over time the host had to
00:11have changed his or her core belief about an issue rather than any organization that parted
00:16from their perspective just tell us the truth stop lying and start remembering
00:22johnny carson on smoking i think that would be a cheap shot to take to still do jokes about it so
00:30i immediately ceased doing jokes about that because it was really unfair the king of late night may have
00:36modernized the talk show format but one aspect of the tonight show was an unfortunate product of the
00:4260s johnny carson regularly smoked on air until widespread reports of the health risks inspired
00:48the public health cigarette smoking act of 1970 who's had the greatest influence on your career
00:53uh your entire life on my career no mgm no no i would imagine so the tonight show was coincidentally
01:04the last american tv program to feature a cigarette commercial carson quit smoking on camera but
01:10privately maintained the habit until his death from emphysema in 2005. cbs then resurfaced in
01:171979 60 minutes interview with previously unaired material including carson expressing remorse about
01:24smoking though the vice got the better of him he realized public figures his responsibility to turn
01:30impressionable viewers away from it you know how long i've had the cigarette box on his desk you brought
01:35that up from new york i brought this from new york what on earth it happened last night who don
01:41rickles i did not see don rickles did it last night jimmy fallon on political commentary well guys
01:47president trump just wrapped up his three-day trip to the uk and he looked incredibly handsome
01:53amid growing partisanism on late night jimmy fallon carried his fluffy neutrality into the tonight show
02:01the most confrontational he got in interviews with 2016 potus candidates was playfully tousling
02:07donald trump's iconic hair in a 2017 interview with new york times fallon expressed regret for not
02:14asking more hardball questions but as trump publicly rejected this apology and began feuding with talk
02:21show hosts the tonight show became more open to political jabs what were you saying about elon just
02:26last wednesday it was totally brilliant yeah and how about thursday he's dumb as a rock by the time
02:33abc briefly suspended jimmy kimball live under government pressure in 2025 fallon spoofed a
02:39crackdown on free speech he maintains his moderate brand by poking fun at all sides but he and his
02:45writers are gradually recognizing how some politicizing is necessary but to be honest with you all i don't
02:52know what's going on uh and and no one does but i i do know jimmy kimmel and he's a decent funny and
02:58loving guy and i hope he comes back bill maher on donald trump temporarily he used the word lost and
03:05i distinctly remember saying wow i never thought i'd hear you say that he didn't get mad he's much
03:12more self-aware than he lets on in public contrary to recent allegations bill maher has always held firm
03:19in his liberal beliefs though hbo's real time has grown more critical of illiberal progressivism
03:25its host was always harshest about donald trump's first term in the white house at the start of the
03:31second term maher shocked everyone when he revealed that trump invited him to a dinner where he was
03:37gracious and attentive to the concerns of his guest just taking as a positive that this person exists
03:43because everything i've ever not liked about him was i swear to god absent at least on this night with
03:50this guy maher was relieved to find that the president was more moderate and private but still
03:55strongly disagreed with his policies nonetheless maher faced more backlash than usual for humoring his
04:02political opponent as trump's second term soon displayed authoritarian activity real time became
04:08more critical than ever so trump is in his uh uh we caught you with your taillight out uh phase of
04:14justice they will find something to pull you over for conan o'brien on jay leno friendly terms between
04:22jay leno and late night host david letterman collapsed after the former's controversial promotion to the
04:28tonight show desk i know it's for myself there's a rather large uh color shot a large color picture
04:33is it well show them the picture well i don't i'm not the kind of guy to brag certainly but i guess
04:37i guess they decide who gets the big picture yeah letterman's own successor conan o'brien had a
04:44falling out that was overshadowed by the politics of him replacing leno in 2009 due to poor reviews and
04:50ratings for the jay leno show nbc planned to move both it and the tonight show to later time slots
04:56o'brien was so outraged that he quit the network but leno readily took his show back
05:02we we didn't have that much in common we're quite we're quite different fellows uh he and i
05:09i don't know why i suddenly reverted to 19th century diction uh the disillusioned o'brien to a
05:15comedian he once admired though their feud is arguably less historic than the one with letterman
05:20o'brien still believes leno sold out his creative integrity and a colleague for the sake of business
05:26what was the relationship like with jay before this occasional phone call and did you feel a
05:32kinship a camaraderie uh he's uh it's a busy world uh oprah winfrey on personal stories i'm oprah
05:41winfrey and that's what we're talking about today best friends you know that one person in your life
05:47that knows oh the secret details most assume that this journalist who became one of america's most
05:53powerful philanthropists has always believed in helping people open up in fact oprah winfrey favored
06:00light special interest stories while hosting shows in baltimore and chicago i want to talk about
06:05because all four of these people are friends what happens when other friends enter into the picture
06:10because you know certainly you know lori isn't the only friend that you have her nationally syndicated
06:17talk show debuted in 1986 with similarly soft pop psychology but before trash tv sensationalized
06:24people's lifestyles and anguish there opened a market for true empathy two months into its first
06:30season the oprah winfrey show interviewed survivors and perpetrators of sexual abuse
06:36winfrey then built a media empire on sitting down with both ordinary people and public figures to
06:42humanely discuss difficult subjects she showed that shining a light on humanity can be especially
06:48lucrative when done tastefully what is surprising to me is the number of people who could and did reach
06:59out and say i've also been living this secret megan kelly on personal pronouns these are these are kids who
07:07were sort of raised as boys and then identified as girls and have uh decided to embrace that and and they
07:15are transgender girls as trans discourse went mainstream during the 2010s megan kelly was something
07:21of an outlier among conservative commentators she gave trans people including minors a platform with
07:27respect to their dignity and personal pronouns she even clashed with republican politicians in interviews
07:34about their anti-lgbtq policies why are you concerned about you know young girls exposing themselves or
07:42or seeing somebody else exposed in a woman's bathroom but in 2023 kelly announced on her podcast
07:50that she would no longer defer to personal pronouns she believes that with the current climate strict
07:56credence on trans issues distracted from women's rights and promoted potentially unnecessary gender
08:02affirming treatment for youth the move was praised by many conservative commentators and condemned as
08:08transphobic by critics whether she was right in her decision kelly feels that there is a point of
08:14having too much empathy i will speak to a trans person kindly and with empathy in their presence i will
08:20likely try to avoid pronouns altogether as i have no wish to intentionally provoke or upset anyone
08:26tucker carlson on policy it's infuriating in fact it's worse than infuriating it's immoral
08:32and the people who let this happen should be punished the americans who let it happen
08:37political commentator tucker carlson started as a voice for neoconservatism on cnn and msnbc he was a
08:45particularly prominent proponent for the u.s invasion of iraq in 2003 a year later he became
08:52disillusioned with the war carlson's move to fox news in 2009 saw a drift toward protectionist
08:58ideologies that were popularized under donald trump's presidency tucker carlson tonight became
09:04a preeminent apologist for trumpism a very good thing for the world that's a big claim but in this
09:11case it is not an overstatement for the past five days all of us have had if nothing else a chance
09:16to ruminate on what war with iran would mean for us here in the united states however a defamation suit
09:23against fox news published text messages that suggested carlson's dismay over the president
09:28the network then fired its biggest personality who has become more scrutinizing of trump on his
09:34podcast whatever his actual beliefs are carlson is certainly a complicated figure in conservative media
09:41that was 2007 13 years ago it was good advice then we should have taken it it's not too late let's do it
09:48now piers morgan on israel-palestine conflict i do think in this particular occasion they were
09:54extremely precise and it was a brilliant piece of warfare right if you want to call it that as one
10:00of the uk's leading conservative commentators piers morgan's civility in discourse has varied through
10:06the years he was still generally convicted in his beliefs but circumstances changed after the october
10:127th attacks of 2023 sparked the gaza war morgan defended the israeli government's military actions
10:19to weed out hamas particularly against medi hassan's argument that this was a pretext to invade
10:26palestine but you always make it sound like they're just doing this for the sake of it they're not what
10:31are they doing it for they've been provoked by hezbollah hezbollah didn't exist in 1917 okay i'm talking
10:36about the specifics of going on now in may of 2025 morgan formally conceded to hassan on the air
10:42he had gradually become disillusioned with the war crimes and perceived genocidal activities
10:48perpetuated by israel morgan seems to still argue for immediate peace between israel and palestine
10:54but his exact sympathies have taken an unexpected turn i think there's a lot of uprisings now of
11:00people saying enough because they can see there's no there's no end game no one really on the israeli
11:06government side has explained what is going to happen when this war ends jerry springer on
11:12his own show this was the first time we saw on a regular basis people on television that were
11:16different that didn't speak the king's english you know that perhaps didn't luck out in the gene pool
11:22of parents by the mid-1990s the jerry springer show became a salacious platform for alternative
11:28lifestyles and personal conflicts the host previously a hard-hitting journalist lawyer and politician
11:35long defended the legitimacy of what was considered the peak of trash tv
11:40so when we see people that aren't doing so well or don't speak as well as we do or use the f word
11:45and all that kind of stuff they're not less than us they want to be happy just like we do
11:50jerry springer believes he democratically exposed americans to underrepresented sections of society
11:56at worst he dismissed it as silly entertainment but in an interview with the independent four years
12:02after the end of the show springer remorsefully claimed he ruined culture he passed away three
12:08months after joking that he'll have to answer for this in the afterlife springer leaves behind a
12:13complicated legacy but even he felt that his representation of issues was more exploitative
12:19than societally helpful so how did you guys get to be living into her place because you guys live with
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12:47dennis miller on conservatism now here with an opposing viewpoint is me yeah well thank you dennis
12:57thank you ben thank you after saturday night live dennis miller pioneered late night talk shows with
13:04intellectual yet crass political comedy he claimed to not want to go on a rant but frequently railed
13:11against the republican establishment on liberal issues then he changed his tune about president george
13:17w bush after 9 11. miller's sudden alignment with neoconservatism landed him a short-lived show on
13:24cnbc and regular appearances on fox news he gradually evolved into one of american comedy's most prominent
13:32critics of the democratic party and progressive politics aoc at this point is making so little sense
13:38that the npi the national punctuation institute has requested their hyphen back because she's diluting
13:46the brand too much although he's always held some conservative beliefs miller acknowledges that his
13:52feelings about policy have dramatically changed with age whether fans appreciate such a rebrand
13:58it takes a lot for personalities to embrace that natural process i'm a pretty humble man in real life
14:05but i was a really arrogant i remember thinking these people are not here to watch you shuffle your feet
14:11yeah and pshaw your way through this who are some other media personalities whose talk shows changed
14:17their talking points let's chat in the comments
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