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00:00If you're a true love of African hip-hop music, then chances are you've felt the pulse of Zlatan Ibele.
00:05Now this is a street poet who has turned cultural evangelist over the years.
00:10And today we're celebrating his new album, Symbol of Hope and We Are Guardian Music.
00:14We've caught up with him so that we're going to get into this album.
00:17Thank you for joining us today on the studio, Zlatan. How's it going?
00:20How's it dating?
00:22Cool, cool.
00:23See, your studio gives the vibe of a marathon artist, someone who creates on the go all the time.
00:32So how do you feel making music inside the space?
00:36Yeah, this is a private studio. I just want to record.
00:44Yeah, I've had this studio for like a year now.
00:48I used to have one before I just went to this one.
00:52So I've just not been able to do so much here.
00:56Just some few tracks on the album and then some of the songs we've made before.
01:00I'm running them up here.
01:02Just like some easy remakes and some new stuff and all that.
01:07Yeah, you know what it is.
01:09Well, which do you prefer making music outside on the side?
01:12It depends. It depends.
01:14The thing was, I always make music in the room.
01:18Sometimes on my dining table.
01:20If I've been into it.
01:22Sometimes at the hotel, the apartment.
01:30I've been in the room outside of the country.
01:32I've been in the room.
01:34I prefer to listen to this.
01:36I'm just in the corner here, like the studio.
01:38I'm in there.
01:40Food is in my house.
01:41I'm tired.
01:42I'm in the kitchen.
01:43I'm in the room.
01:44Yeah, so speaking of Symbol of Hope right now.
01:47What does this album mean for you?
01:51This album actually, like, means a lot to me.
01:55This album is also like a single of hope.
01:58The album itself is a single of hope to me that I can always, like,
02:03give up and do better in life.
02:06It's done from, like, Zanko, to Waysan, and to now, to a new project.
02:12It's like the sound, I don't know, like, I need bottled water.
02:17You can just bump into them and see them having an iPhone
02:21because there's level to this shit on the highlight.
02:24Just telling someone to help you or, like, just beg.
02:28You can just, you can have millions of that because of how it is.
02:33But, like, to me, I know there are some people that just to feel,
02:37to have three square millils out for them.
02:39There are some people that they don't see, like, Range Rovers.
02:43Like, when I was growing up, I didn't grow up in the area where I went by.
02:47I would see, like, Range Rover or see, like, Gwagon.
02:50That would prompt me to say, ah, I want to have, like, this car.
02:54It was, like, when people just finish what they're doing.
02:57Like, it's either you go into, like, farming or, like,
03:01most of us, like, our parents are not, like, just, like, average.
03:05Like, it's either you just open a business or end up teaching in a secondary school.
03:10Like, not that, like, people are not okay to their extent,
03:13but, like, it's not as strategy as making people want to, like, do so much.
03:17So I always try to connect with the people.
03:21Like, I always want to make them feel like my lyrics are not for me alone.
03:25When I make music, I make music for everyone.
03:29Like, I want to make people, like, singing my song.
03:33And it feels like they are the ones talking to themselves.
03:37Like, they're making, like, words of affirmation to themselves.
03:39Like, they're, like, saying, oh, I want my life to get better.
03:43Like, I'm saying it even despite that my life has gotten better.
03:46I make lyrics, like, oh, I want my life to get better.
03:49Like, so semester, yeah, you think I'm better, but I want to be more, like, better.
03:53And then the person that is not as better as me wants to be better like me.
03:57Yeah, so, like, that's, that's...
03:59I mean, well said, but I'm interested in, you know, you've been talking a lot about mental health, you know,
04:05and how you've, you know, parts of your own experiences have shaped how you make music now.
04:11So, let's just go into that experience.
04:14Like, what kind of challenges did you deal with, and how did you, like, come back?
04:18Make it, like, before, uh, before, now that I'm making the music, or before, like, uh...
04:23No, before this album, right?
04:25Before this album.
04:27Yeah, before this album, they were, like, before, from my last album.
04:31Okay, it doesn't have to be on a specific project, but generally, like, you've, you've been vocal about it.
04:37Yeah.
04:38So, what types of, uh, challenges did you face, like?
04:42Yeah, well, I think it was only ones, I think it was only ones that I just tweeted about.
04:47Because I'm really not the person that really likes, like, like, let everything out, and I'm like...
04:53Yeah, I think my tweet was, if you have someone in your family, or someone that's coming up, that wants to make music, actually, you guys are keeping money for promo, you should keep money for therapy as well.
05:07Yeah.
05:08He's only right, like, he's only right, but what people don't know is, uh, sometimes, uh, therapy might be, a therapist might be your partner, a therapist might be your mom.
05:20And, uh, it is why I was, like, it was just, I was just trying to, like, say something.
05:27Was it, was it more, like, anxiety, or...?
05:30Yeah, yeah, it's, like, it's, like, it was all of that.
05:33It was all of that for me.
05:35It was, there was, there was, it was time where man was depressed, and, uh, there were times where man was, like, having anxiety, because, obviously, uh, my concern about music was blowing up.
05:51Yeah.
05:52I didn't realize that being, like, being really burnt is even more crazy than the blow-up.
05:58So, my concern was, I wanted to blow, I wanted to blow, I wanted to blow.
06:01And then, boom, uh, Olamide gave me my first, like, verse that, like, changed everything around.
06:09And then, as soon as, like, got that song, I was, like, oh, I was not gonna get my tattoo if I don't have, like, I was not gonna, I was not sure.
06:18So, let me not go get a tattoo before my first hit song.
06:22So, I was patiently waiting for my first hit song.
06:24As soon as I had that one, I went to go get a tattoo, then I wasn't sure.
06:28What's that word, right?
06:29Well, it's, ah, I'm trying to, like, oh, it's crazy.
06:32You can just tell us what's what you mean.
06:34Yeah, I wrote, my name, Temida.
06:36Oh, okay.
06:37I want to start to join, yeah.
06:38So, that was when I, like, made the first song, and then, and I realized that there's even more job to be called.
06:47To be consistent, I mean, like, really bad.
06:50And then everyone was like, oh, that could be flopped.
06:54Yeah, the street artists, they only come, like, all bangers, and then, there'll be nowhere to be found again.
07:00With the kind of sounds Latam makes, I don't think it's gonna last that one year in the industry.
07:04It makes street music.
07:06These guys, you know, look, you understand.
07:08So, like, I became even more, like, really, really, like, concerned, like, oh, so this, this is just getting started, like.
07:17And that was sometimes, like, it now amounted to, like, pressure.
07:22You understand?
07:23It amounted to pressure.
07:25It amounted to, like, lack of confidence sometimes.
07:29Anxiety, and panic attacks.
07:34You understand?
07:35Like, you know, like, I'm over-stressing myself.
07:38Like, over-working myself.
07:40Drinking.
07:41Just, like, keep my head straight.
07:44You understand?
07:45There were, like, times like that.
07:47And then, I just kept on going from able-god to killing them, luckily for me.
07:52He just went, like, things went smooth and dull.
07:57So, I, that was the time I came out.
07:59I won, like, the best new acts in Afirma.
08:01One of the best collaborations of the year.
08:04Everyone was coming for, like, bias.
08:06Like, everyone wanted a spice of Zlatan in their stupe.
08:12So...
08:13It was an effect.
08:14Yeah, it was an effect.
08:15It was going on and on and on.
08:17And then, you know, it happened at one time.
08:19I just thought to myself, because literally, like, I was never signed.
08:26I'm not one of those artists that got signed by an artist.
08:30Yeah, you understand?
08:31I didn't get signed into, like, a system that was already, like, established.
08:35It was just me figuring my tears out with the help of my colleague Yola.
08:40And then, David O, for, for, David O immediately called me up.
08:47After my, you know, they paid for my video.
08:50From there to killing them, you understand?
08:52So, like, all the things that were happening were just me.
08:55I didn't have, like, an experience.
08:57I didn't have, like, a whole full management.
09:00It was just me.
09:01It wasn't, like, proper structure.
09:04It was just...
09:05I was just doing, like, one, like, with my brothers, like, two of my brothers.
09:09And then, like, two of my friends I reached to, like, record in the studio back then, in, like, studio rap.
09:15Like, they were my friends.
09:16And then, in 2020, after, like, some tracks back to back, back to back, I reached out my record label.
09:23And I was like, okay, I'm not trying to sign any artists.
09:27But, like, my friends can leverage on the platform.
09:31On the platform, yeah.
09:32Yeah.
09:33And then, like, I decided to drop an EP with them.
09:35Papi Snowball, Bars, and Jamu Piper.
09:38And then, I took a break during that process.
09:42And after that, I took a break and I said, okay, Jamu Piper, I wanted to, like, let him go.
09:47I did a song with him and we all come down.
09:50Oh, I did off-lily off-lily when, like, revival.
09:53It started to change.
09:54I was happy to see that I could help my, like, my brother, like, someone that we, like, struggled together.
10:03And then, like, still relaxed.
10:06And then, it dropped, If No Be You.
10:08And the song went number two in the country.
10:11And then, everything changed for him.
10:13I was like, okay, good.
10:14This is war.
10:15This is ambition that I saw.
10:18And I'm happy.
10:19And through that process, I didn't drop a song for, like, three months.
10:23And I started seeing tweets, like, oh, finally.
10:26I said it.
10:27That the time would only be here for, like, a limited time.
10:30We met for Zlatan for, like, some months.
10:33Like, I didn't know that.
10:34I didn't even, like, I didn't drop a song.
10:36It wasn't like I dropped a song and you guys didn't feel it.
10:38It wasn't, like, I just took a break.
10:40I was like, well, this is just three months' break.
10:43And people, like, so it started, like, making me feel, like, oh.
10:47So this is what people are talking about.
10:49Like, when it gets to the time, like, you won't get it right again.
10:52Sometimes, like, I was worried.
10:54And then, I was waiting for some time.
10:56And then, luckily for me, we recorded Cash Up.
11:01I think it was Cash Up.
11:02I think it was Cash Up.
11:03And then, everything went up again.
11:06Yeah.
11:07And then, it got something, man.
11:09And then, sometimes, like, sometimes, everything goes really cool.
11:16You've learned the balance.
11:17So, I now learned to that.
11:18Come on, bro.
11:19I can't keep myself, like.
11:20There's no need to, like, really be, like, because I've seen it happen one or twice.
11:24I'm like, oh, okay.
11:25I really just think I think I just need to actually, like, cool down.
11:28And then, do the most important thing, which is, like, record and knowledge, be hardworking
11:33and make music.
11:35And then, that was how I was able to, like, get the balance and the standard, like, over
11:40the years, yeah.
11:41Speaking of recording, there's one particular thing I like about your music, like, how free-spirited
11:46you are with your slangs.
11:48Like, what is Kapai Chumai Chumai Chumai Chupako?
11:52For instance, like, where were you when all those catchphrases came into your mind?
11:56Like, just tell us about it.
11:58Yo, Kapai Chumai Chumai Chupako, man.
12:01This is a spiritual language, man.
12:04This is a spiritual language.
12:08Only people from the Casablanca town understand the sound.
12:13Which Casablanca in Nigeria?
12:14Casablanca di Katamatofia.
12:16Not for now.
12:17Okay.
12:18Okay.
12:19Okay.
12:20Okay.
12:21I mean, we'll see if I can make our findings.
12:24Yeah.
12:25But for now, the Casablanca...
12:27What did you call it again?
12:28Casablanca di Katamatofia.
12:29The Katamatofia.
12:30Yeah.
12:31Okay.
12:32But I think it was also around that time Zanku.
12:36That Zanku and even the dance as well.
12:40Like, it went really viral.
12:41So, what was the inspiration behind that name itself, Zanku?
12:46What does it mean?
12:47What does it mean?
12:48So, Zanku...
12:50Actually means...
12:51Zlatan Aberg No Kilos.
12:53That's the full meaning for Zanku.
12:55How do you get the name?
12:56Is it something to say?
12:57No.
12:58There's one of my songs.
12:59So, I think in one of the...
13:00The second verse...
13:01It's like, the line...
13:02It's stuck from there.
13:03It's stuck from there.
13:04Yeah.
13:05So, I think in one of the...
13:06The second verse...
13:07It's like, the line...
13:08It's stuck from there.
13:09It's like, the line...
13:10It's stuck from there.
13:11Yeah.
13:12So, like...
13:13People always comment saying like...
13:14Zlatan Aberg No Kilos.
13:15Zlatan Aberg No Kilos.
13:16So, I just took like...
13:17Z, A and the front and everything.
13:18So, that was what formed Zanku.
13:19So, like, when I was in school...
13:20They...
13:21You know, like...
13:22When I was growing up, before music...
13:23I knew about Alanta's, Kili Wu...
13:24And, like, dancing...
13:25I knew about...
13:26I knew about...
13:27I knew about...
13:28In my head, when I was...
13:29When I started...
13:31Because, first of all...
13:32and everything so that was from Zanko so like when I was in school they you know like when I was
13:38growing up before music I knew about Alanta, Kinewu and dancing like I know about like so like in my
13:45head when I was just when I started because first of all I never wanted to be an artist like I was
13:52I wanted to play football so yeah so like I failed work and then found myself filling my
13:59friends to the studio before I was like I started like making music so when I like gained admission
14:07into like Polytechnic I didn't have like three songs there and I didn't know how it happened
14:14this is why I pursued my musical career like when I was 19 years old I literally just went to school
14:22my first semester I've known everything like my first semester as I mentioned I don't have a place
14:27on my own I was squatting with my friends with just two shirts and like a trouser and then just trying
14:32to like figure out how I'm going to even pay my admission fee so I didn't lose my admission
14:37like because again I'm going to give me like 10 and then like a competition came up in school
14:42whereby we had to wrap talent with just 15 years my friend bought the sim card it was a little program
14:49I don't know I don't know how it happened I won the card when I was 19 so that was one like made me like
14:56that's the picantum yeah that's the picantum that was what made me like oh my god like I wanted to
15:02I came to school trying to like just make my parents proud because but I knew how they managed to like
15:09put everything together to make people go to that for the technique and then when I won the card I just
15:14said to myself like this is this is your calling yeah this is my calling and that's all like
15:20but the dance that yeah the dance it does also sometimes where I'm going sometimes just disconnecting
15:25where yeah when I went when I go to school I just decided that I wanted to have a dance
15:30like if I ever become like a young artist yeah because that was it was the dance that made me popular
15:36was the dance that made me actually but the dance was part of why I won the card it was part of your
15:40performance the card yeah so then it was shocky that was raining so whenever like my friends like
15:48I was in school with like 12 of my average like average student like me that are not so good
15:53are like half like so small like 12 of us from the hood like every student that couldn't like
16:02like our jam results could not go to university so we had to go to politics so there's like a group
16:10association of us from my hood from my secondary school that picked that school which we were
16:15playing to you so I'm getting to the screen was like oh it was like they were like seven 16 of us from
16:20the hood so we like go home together trek through the sample together so like there was happening something
16:26was happening at the bush like for freshers and they were like that was when I just started like
16:30rapping three songs in the hood so they were like they were pushing me like come go come go try like
16:36come on so like so like you know now me coming outside like 16 I already have like 16 fans already
16:42so like I'm coming I was like yeah I came outside I was I was the first thing I used to do was dance
16:48and dance as I'm dancing there are my friends already screaming like hey hey you know we came together
16:53like hey hey hey and then I just started rapping so like it made like it created like an awareness like
17:01to me like whatever I wanted to like wrap so the competition came up I used the same strategy right
17:08when they give me mic and I'm supposed to rap for like one minute I'm gonna dance with 10 singles and then
17:14start rapping for like the next 50 seconds so like that's like people were like just most of the time
17:19before everyone start seeing anything they already start shouting at me even when the rap is really
17:24like shaking I just hide my rap under the noise and everything just you know just I was just
17:30getting into music that time but I was lucky I won so I had the dance that time I had the dance
17:36in school like I had the song that was popular was Ebola I had the song called Ebola Ebola yeah I was
17:43I was literally used to like using whatever was like happening right after that yes I had the song
17:48I had the song that Ebola is created in 2014 it was viral like Ebola Ebola Ebola or you know some
17:56with Ebola so it was popular because I used to like and I had this new song called Kuzu I created the dance
18:02to me like patreon. And I was always wanted to like level up there so I always wanted to have like a global
18:11dance before the shako shako that was running then like yeah shako shako was there yeah yeah yeah
18:17yeah yeah but you know most of these dances actually start from like grassroots of the street yeah before
18:23something gets global like on the nigero like global like well seen in the industry like seen
18:29It's very popular, it starts from like grassroot, like if you go to Fellashoen, for example,
18:34I can bet you that the dance that you guys would see next year, like August.
18:40They're already dancing.
18:41Yeah, they're already dancing.
18:43So, I used to go to Fellashoen at that time, so like I had a dance that was, I had a dance
18:48then it was, it was, it was, it was supposed to be Shakitimobo, it was supposed to be Shakitimobo.
18:54So it was like, it was the same move, it was that exact move.
18:58But mine was Kuzo, and then, I think this is going to be, this is going to be the first time I've ever talked about this, like very well.
19:08Mine was Kuzo, but it was the same Shakitimobo move.
19:12And then, it was already like, big in the school, people were already like dancing to it.
19:19Yeah, and all of a sudden I was just, I just woke up one day and then I just said,
19:23and you're on my hobby, hobby, and you're on my hobby, hobby, worried information like.
19:28See, it turned out to be Shakitimobo.
19:32Like, bro, I just, I just came into the class the next day and everyone was like,
19:37Oh, yo, bro, what's up now, did you go and sell this, did you sell the song, did you sell the dance?
19:42they don't know how music works and everyone was just on me like did you
19:46send this song right so we're like how can you be so foolish that you allow them
19:51take your song your dance like they were like okay let's let's go let's go spam
19:56all of me this page and like let's go customer I'm like look at this guy this
20:02guy doesn't even know how much motivation like inspiration this guy is to me my
20:08whole life like well like I didn't say I said me I'm not gonna be a part of that
20:14and then I don't know maybe it's cuz I my background and like my upbringing
20:20it was like a little bit like more modest like the kind of parents I have I could
20:26like think when others like want me to like think one way I could I just come
20:30out the box and see from the other especially in my head I was like well
20:33I don't want to like blow up and I want to see you allow me that I want to start
20:38trying out yeah but I just don't know if I don't mind you guys can just forget
20:44about this oh you know this man said no like well it even happened I now went to
20:51even post the shakiti bobo so like well because I understood I understood that
20:57even at that time I was calling it Kuzum some people were already calling it
21:01something else elsewhere even on that like grassroots as well so like it was a shakiti bobo
21:07what happened and like my own was cool so that time let it go and then and then like it happened
21:15again because on that time legwork again blew up because of that so so when legwork now blew up and
21:23I'll make sure that I give it Zanku which is Zlatan Abeniokino so that is I don't want them to take it
21:33out for me like my name is attached to it a lot of people didn't know what Zanku means but they took it
21:41like that was a dance that was a dance I let this I let it sink into everyone's body before I let them know
21:49how the actual meaning is Zlatan Abeniokino Zanku and I understand when I remember I was so happy to have my own dance
21:57as well because I know they were skinny whoo Likesh at Shoki so like when Zanku came up the legwork was
22:04everywhere Beyoncé danced to it like it was just everybody's legwork just took over and I can really say like
22:12from Zanku legwork in the history of Nigeria there hasn't been an actual there hasn't been a moment like
22:19I'm hoping I'm counting on you to bring up another one so it was be cool as well but like you know
22:27sometimes like you you read these you read it's really not by your power yeah it just happens you
22:36even know by you you can claim is right like you knew what you were doing but like trust me okay but
22:45let's see time back to this whole symbol of hope and I noticed that you've had this consistency
22:52co-signing different emerging artists on your album you've worked with Maddie and Ola amongst all the
23:01new new voices that we have in Android so but what draws you to artists like what touches you about an
23:07artist that makes you want to support them the same thing that drew a lot of those attention to me
23:12the same thing I made the video does I was the food trying to think for one day to drink carry it out
23:24and I don't just Ola just danced to my song I posted it on his main page that was his first one million views
23:35called Instagram that year and then he just went by and he called me and made it something for me
23:40you understand so like well ever since like I've looked at my journey there's always been one person
23:49from one person to one person helping me from one person telling me to taking me to the studio
23:54from another person buying the sim card of the phone on the car I want to allow me to send me a DM
24:03you understand it's just been like one person like helping from one stage to the other like
24:11it's like it's been true support that I've been able to like actually get my my stance so like to
24:18me some people feel like when they blow up they want to hold they want to hold like they want to just
24:25focus focus on themselves clearly of which probably maybe if um uh I'm just playing right now I'm just
24:36being like bring up last year maybe that would be my route as well like probably like most like maybe
24:43selfish towards like just concentrate on myself you understand so that but it didn't happen for me
24:50like that people helped me so me as well I'm ready to like yeah yeah like yeah like collaboration is
25:00like one of the major things in music like you can do everything on your own and then I think what
25:06some people like just some people feel reluctant to like call like did you want to eat up like new
25:12artists when you see them like trying and say okay let's make music together but that's that's not the
25:17case even if you're 10 you're 16 years old you know 15 or 20 as long as you like you're doing
25:27something nice I don't mind I'll call you like well let's make up in the studio let's make music to
25:33here let's let's change vocals and like that can change for us yeah always like down and I don't
25:40know luckily for the people that uh few of them I've never liked I don't like talking about it like
25:49I've never never I'm never that artist that's ever like I've never done one single PR about
25:56people that have like helped or like done that like changed their status like yeah it was just
26:07like yeah yeah it was just like genuinely like done I've done my part that yeah you understand there's
26:15no need like trying to like put it on the face of people like oh I was the one that did it so
26:20yeah top guy for me I mean speaking of tops and you know how fly you clean with your own career like
26:29what drew you to fashion when did you know you were going to do it when you was going to do fashion
26:36because of what like what the pepe that clothes showed me when I was growing up clothes really
26:46showed me people like well I showed you people imagine even when I won my car in school I still
26:53had one shirt so the extent that my lecturer said oh is it only this it was like in front of the
26:58old place like is this only this shirt that you have you don't mean that I felt so embarrassed that
27:03day because I was getting the car without the panic I couldn't fit myself and now I did like more
27:11problems like I don't feel myself how do I want to like buy a phone it was crazy did you sell the car
27:18no I was at some point I had to like just start using the car for a taxi in the night yeah yeah we
27:28now on the body like like from like I welcome to Chagam like 200 now I see some of them some of them
27:36look at the car and be like oh we can't pay you that you need to win the car I'm like what do you
27:40mean because I win the car now yesterday you have to pay less yeah yeah I ended up like yeah as a point
27:49I had to sell the car man I had to sell the car I had to sell the car I sold the car yeah but
27:56that's cool I mean I will watch this video where your son was talking to you about your music and all
28:17what would you say has been the biggest lesson fatherhood has taught you or maybe how has it
28:29changed you in a way in terms of how you approach your business yeah yeah you just made me like you
28:35just made me sit up more like you just made me realize that I can't be thinking like I can't like
28:43you understand the way the way like a father would like you know like I only use like a parable like
28:53if you go to like a maybe like a restaurant the canteen booka you say if the way someone that doesn't
29:03have a child probably a girl at home will eat we depend from the way someone that knows that she has to
29:10take something to eat you understand it just changed my whole like I was young I was 25 when I had my
29:16first child I was I was just well you see there's another some new guys now they're like crazy crazy
29:28understand we're like we're crazy as well we're like as soon as my son came he just toned down the
29:36whole madness you just toned down the whole madness which at some point like I used to tell like my
29:47friends like he almost almost cost me like my cause all of a sudden I started becoming like very very
29:53calm like too calm like because I decided to become I started founding some things like I started feeling
30:02a lot of time to do some normal stuff like some crazy stuff that I would just do on nobody and then
30:08the fans would laugh in their body like oh yeah I like these crazy things that time is a crazy nigga
30:13but I didn't want anyone to call me a crazy nigga I wanted to like because I wanted like my son to
30:18to look up to me I wanted to I wanted to to be able to say like to my son to do this and not do this and
30:29then you feel like okay yeah you think if he wants to do music you would you like him to do music
30:36uh but I like I didn't do what my father wanted me to do like but that's what I wanted to do so yeah
30:45I feel with my son today he wants to be an astronaut tomorrow he wants to be an engineer next to my son
30:55I think he's too young he's the why I would upload into this free football okay and this this last segment
31:01of the interview just want to ask some rapid fire questions um firstly what's the first thing you do
31:06when you wake up in the morning
31:07really just start tapping the bed to look for my face
31:14okay if you could only keep three social media apps on your phone or rather three apps on your phone
31:20what would they be not social media not just social media any app bank app bank app bank app
31:28different banks okay what's your favorite social media app
31:32uh i'll be on instagram most of the time like instagram and twitter people like instagram
31:41go okay what's one thing zlatan does that your fans will be shocked when you do
31:50shocked or what's maybe it could be a hobby or a secret talent or some obsession that you have
31:57maybe maybe people people who have different interests
32:03i'm really shocked man is there anything that i want to do that i don't want to have nothing
32:07before like right all right maybe let me phrase it like what what are some of your
32:13biggest hobbies or strongest hobbies yeah some people like still feel like i don't know
32:19i've never said it before but like i stopped smoking like four four years ago wow
32:24yeah never said that before
32:54i've never tweeted about it before wow wow wow yeah a lot of a lot of cool firsts that we've had
32:59today i'm not i don't have no problem with people smoking waste too yeah okay so if you're not making music um
33:07what would you specifically be doing or where is that one place you'd like to be if i was not making
33:12yeah if you're not recording music where are you usually um if i'm not recording music right now
33:18i'm probably thinking about making more money and that's for music
33:23get that body up bro that's that's amazing everybody thinking about how to make more money
33:29and stuff like some other stuff like music is just one aspect of my life that i have like some other
33:35different aspects of my life yeah like it's not involved about just music you know okay cool so
33:43finally what would you say is vision for Zlatan Idile like what do you want to take the brand to or
33:49what do you want your fans to ultimately experience from your music five years from now ten years from now
33:54but i just think man it's hard man i'm probably thinking this is gonna be like because i get it
34:03it's like my lyrics just like just goes like make money make money don't sleep on yourself don't give
34:08up don't give up i'll be dropping bank i'll be dropping like party jams as well you understand but
34:14i think most of the time when i talk when i'm rapping people just they get the message and then i'm thinking
34:21should i should i just stop giving telling people not to give up and just focus on shaky bam bam biggy bam bam
34:31and things or like still continue like still be doing it once in a while because there's definitely
34:37gonna be people from time to time that actually just needs like words of encouragement so that yeah
34:45nothing um i'm just gonna be doing mighty like like i've been doing it like make music like i don't
34:55feel pressured anymore like i used to be like from way back so like i make music that was somewhat like
35:03peace of mind like it's easy like not being pressured not where i want to be right now but i'm still
35:10very very much grateful for god has brought me okay thank you so much latan and you've heard it from
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