00:00I would say really that incarceration really made you the leader you are today, in short.
00:08Yeah, I wouldn't choose that. I mean, I want the younger generation to be as alert, as compassionate,
00:17without needing to go to jail to learn.
00:23My case is unfortunate. I had to do that, endure that.
00:27But I think all for a reason, and that's why I'm saying that I'm not bitter.
00:34People say, oh, I know I'm bitter. No.
00:36But if you continue, of course I'll be tough.
00:40You know what I mean? It's okay, it's done.
00:42If I'm bitter, I tell you, hundreds will be dismissed and will be sent to prison.
00:48Sometimes I joke, how I wish I'm a dictator.
00:52But it is wrong.
00:53No. You know, you have a due process.
01:00And you have to move on.
01:02I mean, you are not, okay, you like to hear the story, but you're not interested in what happened.
01:08You want to know about your future, your family's future, your children's future,
01:13what is there for the country.
01:15So let us work together.
01:16You know, yes, I have learned this lesson, I'll share it with you.
01:21But what is important to my mind is how we then commit ourselves to improve the wealth of this country.
01:31You know, enough of this racism, corruption, injustice.
01:34And try our level best to affect change.
01:40And again, as I said, change, you move too fast.
01:45You think you are the smartest guy on earth.
01:48I have some colleagues like that.
01:50Nobody else is matter.
01:52I don't need to negotiate with others.
01:54I don't care about coalition.
01:56Then you don't govern.
01:57You don't care about coalition team.
02:00You don't govern.
02:01You see?
02:04I think in Dutch, Sugarno used to say, like,
02:07like crying in the desert.
02:12But I don't want that.
02:13I think we should use this opportunity to move.
02:18And I think, I don't know, Ramania, Emil Faisal, Rashid, all monitoring this very closely,
02:26but I think we have the capacity.
02:28We have done it.
02:29We are able to do it.
02:31And many of you, the leading banks, the leading companies, we can.
02:35You know that.
02:36It will make a difference with good governance.
02:39Now, have I interfered?
02:40I, well, Khazanah, PNB, I happen to chair.
02:45Have I interfered in decisions?
02:47No.
02:47I said, yes, new technology.
02:51Yes, green technology.
02:53Yes, Bumi Putera Welfare.
02:55Yes, program for the poor.
02:57Yes, adopt schools.
02:58That's all.
02:59I don't interfere in terms of protecting personal interest.
03:02And to me, this is a remarkable change.
03:05And if I don't interfere, none of my cabinet colleagues should interfere.
03:10The commercial decision is entirely yours.
03:13Okay?
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