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00:00On August 10th, 1995, at about 10 o'clock, I was on a traffic stop when I heard the triple tone.

00:08Triple tone means that there's some kind of an emergency.

00:30What do you mean they died?

00:31What do you mean they died?

00:32What's wrong with them?

00:33I don't know.

00:34Ma'am, where is the person that died?

00:36Where is he at?

00:37He's on the floor in the living room.

00:41What's the address?

00:44What, Elm?

00:47Yeah, it's Elm.

00:49This wasn't my first homicide.

00:51This wasn't my first crime scene.

00:52But this one just stuck with me.

00:57These people were brutally executed.

01:00Brutally killed.

01:02Through all my years in the homicide, I've never seen a scene like this before.

01:07Just, it's, to this day, still sticks with me.

01:30I don't know.

01:37I don't know.

01:38I don't know.

01:46I don't know.

01:46When I got off my bike, the first thing I noticed were all the people standing in the front yard.

02:16They were frantic.

02:18They were all crying.

02:19They were yelling in Vietnamese.

02:21I didn't know what they were saying.

02:22But the look on their faces told me that there was something inside that house that was big.

02:28I saw a woman there holding about a two- or three-year-old.

02:35The child appeared to have been shot.

02:39I immediately called for medical aid for him.

02:43That's when I approached the house.

02:45I didn't know if there was a shooter still in the house.

02:51I had my gun at the ready.

02:53When I walked in, the first thing I noticed was I could smell the blood.

03:09There was blood everywhere.

03:10I noticed a woman laying on her back.

03:21There was a puppet next to her.

03:23Laying there next to her was an older Vietnamese man, probably in his 40s, laying face down,

03:39hands tied behind his back, and appeared to be shot in the back of the head.

03:42And the body next to him appeared to be a young boy.

03:49He was face down also with his hands tied behind his back.

03:54I proceeded to where the bedrooms were located.

03:59The house appeared to be very disheveled.

04:01It was a mess.

04:08There was a bedroom.

04:09The door was open.

04:10In the back bedroom, there were two bodies of a boy and a girl.

04:19I couldn't believe what I was in.

04:22They were both riddled with bullets shot numerous times.

04:26The little boy looked like he was trying to cover his sister as they were being shot.

04:32That was heroic to me.

04:35I have two little boys that were about the same age, and that's all I could think about.

04:40Is how he put it.

04:43He, at 10 years old, risked his life to save his sister.

04:48I was a detective working for the city of San Bernardino Police Department in the homicide unit.

05:05And when we got to the front yard, I knew something bad had occurred in that house.

05:10And I kind of even questioned myself if I really wanted to go in and see what was going on.

05:16When I first walked in and started looking, one of the things we did notice

05:35was blood prints, fingerprints from a small child and smears along the walls, lower to the ground so we knew they were not from adults.

05:45We knew the three-year-old boy who had went to the hospital, had wandered around all night.

05:54You know, you start thinking, what does this kid have to suffer when he saw this by himself in there for probably eight to ten hours before somebody showed up to save him?

06:07When we got closer to looking at the bodies, we noticed a lot of different things.

06:16Dad had cuts on his neck, which were unusual.

06:20The first time I looked at the mother, when she was lying on her back in the living room,

06:31what I saw up her nose, I knew did not belong there.

06:36It was kind of a bluish-colored substance, consistent with what I thought was toothpaste.

06:43There was also what appeared to be shampoo that had been poured into the eyes.

06:48In the same room, we found an empty shampoo bottle.

06:53I've worked a lot of murders, a lot of death investigations, and I've never seen anything like this, ever.

07:07We found that Mom had been wearing a jade and diamond pendant that apparently had been taken from her.

07:13We thought maybe it was taken as a trophy, because some serial killers do that.

07:22When we got to the kitchen area, I saw all the pots and pans were removed from cabinets.

07:30From the countertops, they were all laid on the floor, nice, neat little piles.

07:33This was not normal.

07:40That house on Elm Street was a horror scene.

07:42As we worked the scene, neighbors were interviewed by some of the detectives.

07:55What we discovered was the Wynn family consisted of six people.

07:58The father, Henry Wynn, was 44 years old.

08:01The mother, Trin Nguyen, was 35.

08:04The daughter, Doan, was 15 years old.

08:07Daniel, the oldest son, was 11 years old.

08:09And the middle son, David, was 10 years old.

08:14And Dennis was 3 1⁄2 the time he was shot.

08:19He was their only surviving victim out of this incident.

08:23I think Dennis had dropped down between the beds and hid in the back bedroom.

08:29He'd caught a couple stray rounds, one in the hand and one in the arm.

08:32We talked to the neighbors, and they said Dad ran a landscaping business.

08:41Mom ran a sewing business where she made uniforms for Vietnamese restaurants.

08:47Nobody was aware of any threats to the victim family either.

08:50I found out about it just by working the beat, as they say.

08:58It just had all the makings of an interesting story for a crime reporter.

09:03It was a family that was attacked inside their home, and it was terrible and frightening.

09:08San Bernardino is about 60, 70 miles due east of downtown Los Angeles, and there's a couple hundred thousand people.

09:19The Nguyen family lived on kind of the center part of San Bernardino in a predominantly Vietnamese and Southeast Asian community.

09:26Detectives continued to do a neighborhood campus, knocking on doors, asking questions.

09:36Do you see anything? Do you hear anything? Notice anything unusual?

09:41But it was predominantly a non-English-speaking community.

09:45Most of them spoke Vietnamese, and so there was just a language barrier, number one.

09:49And then there were the cultural aspects of not understanding the way the police worked in this country.

09:54I was lucky enough to find Peter Lee, the community leader for that Vietnamese area.

10:01So we made him the focus point so he could provide us what we needed.

10:19So I had to encourage them to speak with the police when something happened.

10:24Everybody in the neighborhood is shot and scared.

10:28So at that point, I started getting phone calls from other agencies, and they were telling me toothpaste and shampoo in the eyes

10:38was a Vietnamese torture technique that was found during the Vietnam War.

10:43They'd shove toothpaste up their nose, dump shampoos in the eyes to try and irritate them.

10:50So we knew then for sure that that's what it was. It was torture.

10:56I just couldn't understand why someone would hurt someone like that.

11:00Everybody in the neighborhood down there by the Wynn's home was frightened.

11:04We couldn't answer the questions, who did this? Why did it happen?

11:07The violence we saw in that house, we knew that.

11:25This crime was sent as a warning.

11:28War violence was coming because we knew this killer was going to continue doing exactly what they were doing.

11:35About August 9, 1995, the Wynn family was shot and killed inside their house.

11:55The only surviving member of this family massacre was 3-year-old Dennis.

12:08We had a detective who worked the Crimes Against Children Division

12:13who went to the hospital to try and talk with Dennis to see if we could get any type of statement from him.

12:18Detectives told us that Dennis, he was experiencing a lot of fear.

12:23He was afraid of loud noises.

12:28He just kept repeating that.

12:31He saw blood.

12:32He saw blood.

12:35He was clearly traumatized.

12:36Any detective was smart enough to know when not to question and when to question.

12:45He made the determination that this was not the time to be pushing anything

12:49because he could still see the fear in his kid's face.

12:52He was scared to death.

12:53When we originally started the investigation, we had no information whatsoever.

13:14The neighbors were not speaking.

13:16Our eyewitness, Dennis, wasn't talking.

13:18But then we got a phone call from the crime lab.

13:22The criminalist showed me a very unique primer to only one gun.

13:28Glock handgun.

13:30So that was our first big break.

13:31We knew Glock handguns had been used in this homicide.

13:37The next day we get a phone call from Sacramento Sheriff's Department.

13:41He says, hey, we have this home invasion and we submitted casings.

13:45And have matched against your case and we got a match.

13:48I jumped out of my chair while I'm talking on the phone.

13:53We're back in business.

13:54We got a lead.

13:56And one of the detectives up there explained to me their murder had occurred about two weeks

14:02before our case in San Bernardino.

14:04They had a mom and pop business.

14:06They were running out of their house.

14:07He told me that on the day of their murder, the daughter of the victims in San Bernardino

14:17was sitting on the front steps of her apartment.

14:23She saw two men come up the stairs with guns in their hands and it scared the bejesus out of her.

14:30She yelled to her mother, shut the door, shut the door.

14:33The mother ran to the door, try and shut it.

14:57After the suspects entered, they shot mom in the leg.

15:00Dad grabbed the chair, tried to hit one of the suspects, gets shot.

15:07The grandfather's there.

15:09He gets shot in the head.

15:11They're both dead.

15:14The daughter said that the only way that mom survived was because the sirens that were in the background.

15:20They knew they'd been had and they got out of there as fast as they could.

15:29We started to realize that this wasn't just one lone individual that was committing these crimes.

15:35It was a group of individuals that were acting in a packed mentality.

15:41And they were acting together to target these unfortunate Vietnamese families.

15:46Based on the information we were building from these two cases,

15:51I realized that DCIs are progressing at a much more violent rate than we expected.

15:57These guys, if they didn't get stopped, God knows how many more people they would kill.

16:08We needed that information.

16:10And the only witness was Dennis, a three-year-old.

16:14So we knew that we needed to try and get what he saw and what he felt.

16:19So we knew that he was going to be able to do it.

16:49Soon after, this family had been murdered.

17:00Dennis was physically recovering, also emotionally recovering.

17:03So there was a police psychologist who was working with the boy

17:06to get him to understand what had happened

17:08and be able to communicate what he knew to police investigators.

17:13Dennis had drawn some pictures.

17:15And there were some figures, a lot of red, what she believed was blood.

17:25The psychologist said she could see Dennis was scared.

17:34He told us exactly what happened.

17:40The brutality.

17:42I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

17:45His mom had always told him that monsters aren't real.

18:01But that was the night he found out she was wrong.

18:06He crawled out of bed

18:07and peeked into the hallway.

18:11Jerry!

18:15Jerry!

18:15I don't know.

18:45We couldn't identify anybody, but Dennis remembered seeing men with guns.

19:12He actually pointed to one of the investigators' head on their belt.

19:19He said there were shots fired.

19:35Dennis also told us they didn't even cover their faces.

19:38They didn't have any mask or anything on.

19:42They didn't have any mask or anything on their belt.

19:48They didn't have any mask or anything on their belt.

19:51I'm not sure what Dennis did.

19:53Yes.

19:53At one point, one of the detectives asked Dennis if the killers spoke English like the detectives were speaking to them.

20:09That's when Dennis responded, they speak like me.

20:16Which clued the detectives in that the killers were speaking Vietnamese.

20:19When Dennis recognized the language that one of the killers was speaking, they knew that it was a member of the community, not an outsider.

20:28When we got that information, that made a big difference for us.

20:33Still, we just didn't know who or where they were from.

20:36As the investigation progressed, one thing I thought was important for us was to find out more about the jade necklace taken off the mother.

20:50Trin had a jade necklace, which in their culture is generally seen as bringing protection.

20:55In Vietnam or Cambodia, the female, they think jade protects their life.

21:04So when that thing is lost or stolen or somebody took it, they feel it's very bad luck for them.

21:11Police realized they needed to break the silence in the community.

21:20So they decided to release more details of the killings and also a $5,000 reward for information about what had happened.

21:28$5,000, especially to members of that community, was a lot. It was not a rich community.

21:34Investigators are asking for any information or leads surrounding the Wynn family murders in San Bernardino.

21:40Authorities now believe the shootings may be linked to another family murder, which occurred just weeks before in Sacramento.

21:54We got so many phone calls, I mean, we were inundated.

21:58We had to have the detectives just take the phone calls and go through them and see what was useful and what was not.

22:03We needed a big break because they killed Grandpa and Dad and shot Mom in a leg in Sacramento.

22:12And then they killed an entire family in San Bernardino and left a three-year-old alive.

22:17So it was just getting worse.

22:19Detectives are searching for the killers responsible for murdering two Vietnamese families,

22:34one in San Bernardino and another four weeks earlier in Sacramento.

22:39Investigators decided to release more details of the killings and also a $5,000 reward for information about what had happened.

22:48That decision resulted in a bunch of leads being called in.

22:51We were given a name of this guy in Seattle, Washington, that had a jade and diamond necklace that was taken off the mother.

23:02The lead also provided me with a drawing of exactly what that pendant looked like.

23:08But we had no idea at this point if this guy is our killer.

23:15We did not know what was going to happen next.

23:17We went to the house.

23:33We told him that you're either going to give us what we want or we'll get a search warrant

23:39and we're going to charge you with five counts of first-degree murder in San Bernardino, California.

23:43After we told him that, he was scared to death.

23:48He told me he knew of absolutely no murders.

23:52He pulled out the pendant.

23:54I said, bingo.

23:57This is it. We got it.

23:58It was exactly like the drawing the lead had given me.

24:02He eventually told him who had given him the jade necklace.

24:07His name was Run Chun.

24:08He said Run Chun had gone to Seattle to see a girlfriend.

24:14When he got there, he realized he was out of money and couldn't get back home.

24:18He had the necklace with him.

24:20He offered to trade the pendant for cash so he could drive home.

24:26He, like many others, was terrified of Run Chun.

24:29And he probably knew what he was capable of doing, like the smearing of the toothpaste in the nostrils,

24:36torturing and terrifying the victims.

24:39So we were looking for him and really worried about where he was going to go.

24:43As we were searching for Run Chun,

24:59I get a phone call from Spokane PD Homicide.

25:05And they're telling me about a home invasion murder.

25:08It was another Vietnamese family.

25:10And I was kind of shocked.

25:11I asked if they could tell me what type of gun was used.

25:14And they said, a Glock.

25:16And I lit up and I asked them to contact their criminalist,

25:22to contact the San Bernardino County Sheriff's criminalist,

25:25see if they can do a comparison.

25:29This was two weeks before the shootings in Sacramento

25:32and a month before the Nguyen family killings in San Bernardino.

25:37Spokane PD told me they killed mom and dad in front of two kids.

25:40We had a five-year-old and a two-year-old that had survived the incident.

25:44We had two more victims.

25:47The brutality was just beyond belief.

25:55He had to be stopped.

25:56Spokane PD interviewed Joe Hagan, the son of the victims,

26:06who was five years old at the time.

26:09Being five, this victim was able to speak a little bit more

26:13and provide some crucial information for this overall investigation.

26:17During the incident, Spokane, Joe Hagan was in his room.

26:31And he heard loud banging.

26:34Little Joe got up to poke his head out of his room.

26:37And he was able to see that there were two men.

26:47One was a bigger man and one was smaller.

26:51He saw guns.

26:53They were black and shiny.

26:56He saw his parents.

26:57And their hands were tied together.

27:04Joe saw his mom wanted to help her.

27:09And as he started to get closer,

27:12he saw his mom's eyes get wide.

27:14And she started shaking her head.

27:16This scared him.

27:17He backed off.

27:17He heard loud noises.

27:26Gunshots.

27:31And ran behind the couch.

27:38And grabbed the pillow.

27:40And he put it over his face.

27:43Because he was afraid.

27:45He just continued to hold that pillow.

27:47over his face.

27:49Because it was so loud.

27:53He sat there.

27:54Until sunrise.

27:59And that's when he went to his neighbor's house

28:01to go get help.

28:06The detectives placed this series of photographs out

28:09for Joe to try to identify

28:12who one of these suspects were.

28:14And Joe was able to point

28:18at one of these photographs.

28:20And identify the big man

28:22that had hurt his dad.

28:25That big man turned out to be

28:26the same man

28:27that had ripped the necklace

28:31off of Dennis' mom.

28:36Ron Chun.

28:36There's no doubt in my mind

28:41that the main man

28:42was Ron Chun.

28:44After getting the information

28:46on Spokane

28:46that occurred on July 10th

28:48of 1995,

28:50we found out that

28:51the ballistics

28:52did match what happened

28:53on July 27th

28:54in Sacramento.

28:56And those matched

28:57the ballistics

28:57from August 9th

28:58in San Bernardino.

28:59So we definitely connected

29:01all three cases together

29:02at that point.

29:03But we still didn't have

29:05any other named suspects.

29:09I called Peter Lee.

29:10He told me that he would

29:11put his nose out there

29:13and see what he could come up with.

29:14Then I got a phone call

29:37from Peter

29:37and he asked

29:38if I could come by his office.

29:40Peter Lee told me

29:41that there was a young lady

29:42that I needed to talk to

29:43that had information

29:44about the home invasion

29:45down Elm Street

29:46and this young lady

29:48named Carol Tran.

29:52Carol Tran

29:53had lived about a block away

29:54from the Wynn family.

29:56We ended up

29:57eventually finding her

29:58at her residence.

30:02The person who

30:03opened the door

30:04was Nancy Tran,

30:06Carol's mother,

30:09who had looked

30:10inside the house

30:10and saw Dennis inside

30:12covered in blood.

30:13We picked Carol Tran up

30:15and brought her

30:16to the station.

30:17She was definitely scared.

30:22She was very reluctant

30:24to tell us the whole story,

30:25but we needed

30:26her information.

30:29And tell me what happened.

30:30when she started telling us

30:38what had happened,

30:39I couldn't believe

30:41what I was hearing.

30:41When we interviewed Carol Tran,

30:59she was very reluctant

31:00to tell us the whole story,

31:02but she knew Ron Chun

31:04and his gang

31:05known as TRG.

31:07TRG or Tiny Rascals gang

31:11was a violent immigrant gang

31:13back in the mid-90s.

31:15We found out that

31:16Ron Chun spent some time

31:18in the Long Beach area,

31:19which is where TRG formed,

31:21and that's how TRG

31:23ended up in San Bernardino.

31:25Carol Tran was not really

31:26a member of the gang.

31:27She was,

31:28I would call her

31:29an associate.

31:29She proved to be

31:49the ultimate source

31:51of information.

31:52She identified by name

31:54everyone involved

31:56in that incident that night.

31:57Ben Scrappy Tran,

32:00C.J. Evans,

32:03and their leader, Ron Chun.

32:06He just knocked on the door

32:08and asked for some stupid thing.

32:10And then the dude

32:11will take it from there.

32:13And now Scrappy got out

32:15and knocked on the door.

32:16Let's go.

32:42Carol said they heard through the neighborhood

32:48that the Wynn family had jewelry and they had money.

32:54Run-chung, New Asians, sometimes keep their money

32:56and jewelry hidden in pots and pans

32:59because they don't trust banks.

33:02Carol told authorities that she did not believe

33:04that there was going to be a murder that night,

33:06that it was only going to be a home invasion robbery.

33:09She was stupid enough to be involved

33:11with these people.

33:13She didn't commit the crimes other than knocking on the door

33:15and getting them dealt in the door.

33:29I got a phone call from Sacramento Sheriff.

33:32They had arrested Run-chung,

33:35them scrapping Tran,

33:38and the other guy was C.J. Evans.

33:41When we got back up to Sacramento Sheriff's Office,

33:50the first interview we did was with C.J. Evans.

33:54And he laid out the whole scenario

33:58of everything that happened in San Bernardino.

34:01Do you know about that incident?

34:03I need to have that one more time for me, too,

34:05just to kind of, like, lock that down for me.

34:07Okay, I was involved in what really happened.

34:11There was Wynn present when that shooting took place.

34:15We may have been there.

34:15He told me that Carol Tran,

34:20Run-chung,

34:22Scrappy, Ben Tran,

34:24and C.J. himself

34:25all went to the house on Elm Street.

34:27Run-chung and Scrappy,

34:48each had a gun.

34:49The family told them initially

34:53they didn't have any money.

34:58That's when Run-chung

34:59grabbed a knife and started torturing Dad,

35:02cutting on his neck

35:03to make him give up whatever he had.

35:05I didn't even know for myself

35:12what happened in the house.

35:14One thing that was clear

35:15said that was toothpaste.

35:17I think that the little boy

35:18and Hoppy did it.

35:22Sorry.

35:23None of us would.

35:24If you're trying to tell me

35:26you think the little boy lived there,

35:27I don't think so,

35:28because I know...

35:29All right.

35:30Because I know for a fact

35:31that none of us were...

35:32I know for a fact that I didn't do it

35:34and that I know nothing about it.

35:36You told me you saw Shaka shoot Dad.

35:38You saw him shoot the boy

35:40next to Dad.

35:42Right?

35:42I was just saying she died.

35:44Yeah, go back to my mom.

35:46We shot her.

35:48Can you say somebody

35:49was shooting in that direction?

35:51It's Scrappy.

35:54I'm sorry.

35:54I see him start shooting

35:56in my direction.

35:58CJ said in June

35:59and told him to go back outside.

36:01So he took no part

36:03in what was going on inside

36:04as far as the shootings went.

36:07How much time do you think

36:09you spent in the house yourself?

36:11More than 10 minutes.

36:14What's the total length of time

36:15everybody was there?

36:1710 minutes.

36:20After we'd spoken with CJ Evans,

36:22my partner and I

36:27sat down with Ron Chum.

36:29The police needed a monster

36:31to speak to them.

36:33The leader, Ron Chum.

36:34Okay, so you're here in Sacramento now.

36:36It's you, Scrappy.

36:38CJ.

36:39And CJ, yes.

36:40Okay.

36:42Now I want to kind of go to

36:43some events that occurred

36:45back in the second week of August.

36:48Okay, around August 9th, August 10th.

36:50You know, we believe

36:51that you have knowledge

36:52about the family thing

36:53more than what you say you do.

36:54What family?

36:57People that you know

36:58or they say that you're involved

37:00with that in those shootings.

37:01Carol's saying she was there.

37:03Scrappy is saying he was there.

37:04CJ is saying he was there.

37:06Okay.

37:07Wouldn't talk.

37:08Didn't care.

37:10Had nothing to say.

37:11I know for a fact

37:12that down there at this house

37:14on Elm Street,

37:16Carol went to the door

37:17and three guys followed Carol

37:19and stood off to the side

37:20behind the bushes.

37:22And I know two guys had guns.

37:24And the first person

37:25everybody wanted to say,

37:27what of them, that was you?

37:28Yeah.

37:28I figured that.

37:29Okay.

37:30He was very cocky,

37:32very smart-ass type personality.

37:34All these people involved

37:36know that they're going to get

37:39some type of punishment

37:40for what they did.

37:41And the only one

37:43who was involved in it,

37:44and I believe you were,

37:45okay,

37:46who hasn't admitted

37:47any involvement,

37:48like you're the angel,

37:50okay,

37:51okay,

37:52is you.

37:53So I suppose to stand up

37:54and say,

37:55okay, I killed all the people.

37:58No, you're supposed

37:58to tell us what you did

37:59and who you killed

38:00or if you shot anybody.

38:02Okay.

38:03You're not taking care

38:04of business.

38:05You're letting their story

38:06lock you up.

38:08Mm.

38:09Okay.

38:09Oh,

38:09this story's already

38:11locking me up.

38:12I don't really see that.

38:15I tried to explain

38:16what he was looking at

38:17with multiple murder cases,

38:20life in prison,

38:21and he just kind of

38:22looked me in the face

38:23and said,

38:24I'm not worried.

38:25I knew this was going nowhere

38:27and I'd never get

38:28nothing out of him.

38:29And I'm thinking to myself,

38:30why do I not want

38:31to reach across the table

38:32and beat the living

38:33out of him?

38:35Because this guy's

38:35got me pissed.

38:37And I knew that

38:38that was the point

38:39where I had to back out

38:40and say enough's enough.

38:45Carol Tran

38:46was charged

38:48with five counts

38:48of first-degree murder.

38:50She agreed to testify

38:51on a plea deal

38:52of five counts

38:53of second-degree murder

38:54to be ran concurrent,

38:56was sentenced

38:57to 15 years

38:58to 50 years.

39:00Scrappy pleaded guilty

39:01to five counts

39:02of first-degree murder,

39:03and he was sentenced

39:04to 50 years to life.

39:05C.J.

39:08pled to five counts

39:08of first-degree murder,

39:1025 to life.

39:10During the trial,

39:23Rung Chun

39:23walked out

39:24arrogant,

39:25cocky,

39:26like,

39:27like,

39:27nothing could touch him.

39:30I got called

39:30to the stand

39:31because obviously

39:31I was first on scene,

39:33and, um,

39:34I gave my story,

39:35got a little emotional

39:36on the scene.

39:38I was staring

39:38at the face of evil.

39:39The jury

39:43found Rung Chun

39:44guilty,

39:45and they came back

39:46with a death sentence.

39:48He's still on death row.

39:52Once we left,

39:52I went home,

39:53and the first thing

39:54I did is hug my boys,

39:56both of them.

39:57You want to think

39:58that something like that

40:00would never happen,

40:00but it happened.

40:04You look at your family,

40:05and you think,

40:06what would you do

40:07if that happened

40:07to your family?

40:09To this day,

40:24I still wake up

40:25in the middle of the night

40:25thinking about

40:26the house on Elm Street,

40:27and I've seen

40:29a lot of murders,

40:30but I've never seen

40:32anything like that since,

40:33and I'm thankful for that.

40:34When I arrived

40:42at the house

40:42on Elm Street,

40:43something wasn't right.

40:46The victim

40:47was naked as can be.

40:49He had something

40:50very unusual

40:51on the body.

40:53They called

40:53our Uncle Dad.

40:55It was devastating.

40:56It was like it had

40:57become its own

40:58urban legend.

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