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The Ingraham Angle (FULL EPISODE) | OCTOBER 15, 2025
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00:00Good evening, everyone. I'm Laura Ingram. This is the Ingram Angle from Washington tonight.
00:06At this hour, President Trump is hosting a dinner in the East Room of the White House.
00:11We're expecting guests from Amazon, Meta, Google, Lockheed Martin, Palantir, others to show up,
00:16big donors to the new ballroom. We'll monitor and bring you any breaking news that comes from that.
00:22But first, whiners and winners. That's the focus of tonight's Angle.
00:26Who said Democrats don't have a bright future? They're young, they're bold, and they're fearless.
00:35You won't say that Hamas should lay down their arms and give up leadership in Gaza.
00:38I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas and Israel beyond the question of justice
00:43and safety and the fact that anything has to abide by international law. And that applies to Hamas,
00:48that applies to the Israeli military, applies to anyone you could ask me about.
00:51If you're Zoran, well, you never know when you need those Hamas votes. After all,
00:56but what about Democrats on Capitol Hill? Oh, God, you got to be fair here. They are tackling some
01:01of the really big issues like Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego. He's mad that he's not in the majority.
01:06So he's obsessing about Epstein, a swearing in ceremony and the pronunciation of his own name.
01:12There are two senators, Kelly and Guayagos, to do their job and vote to open the government so we
01:18can move forward with our position.
01:19Okay, first of all, you pedo protector Speaker Johnson, it's Gallego. Not Gallegos or Gallegos.
01:28It's Gallego. Again, Gallego. Learn it.
01:33Gallego. Wow, I did it. Do I win like the home version of the stupid Democrats game?
01:40All right, now on the state level, Democrats really are killing it as well. And their constituents
01:43are very busy. More Chicago violence against ICE. These are future Democrat voters. If they're not
02:09legal citizens now, oh, under Democrat rule, they would be. So they were involved, some of them,
02:15in a crash where they rammed ICE vehicles. We're going to call for accountability. And indeed,
02:21you know, the tables will turn someday. These people should recognize that maybe they're not
02:25going to get prosecuted today, although we're looking at doing that. But they may get prosecuted
02:31after the Trump administration for the things that they did. They're acting like a bunch of thugs.
02:36Okay. He's not going after the criminals. He's going after ICE. They're the thugs. And the thugs
02:43should remain in the United States as long as possible. Now, I think his blood sugar may have
02:48crated or something. I wasn't sure what's going on there. But Trump's got Pritzker all tied up in a
02:52pretzel. But at least we can always count on California's Democrats to keep it real. Donald Trump
02:57won the election, remember, in large part because of his promise to shut the border down and to deport
03:01illegals. But lefty leaders out there are digging in on two fronts. First, by fighting ICE. And second,
03:08by giving more freebies to illegals. Think about it. Democrats now are paying illegals to stay,
03:17not work, and not self-deport. Again, got to protect a future constituency.
03:23But while the Democrats flounder in their radical doom loop, literally working against the Americans'
03:29interests. Team Trump is working overtime to take on the big issues and our most dangerous
03:34adversaries. From crime to China, they're moving on all fronts. So if you're a blue city mayor who's
03:40been content to manage crime instead of fight it, you're on notice. Today, the FBI, the DOJ,
03:46and the president announced a wide-ranging operation to rescue our cities plagued by violence
03:51and gripped by fear. Historically, the summer months have been a time when violent crime soar,
03:58as you know, but not under President Trump. Today, we're announcing the results of a sweeping law
04:04enforcement effort known as Operation Summer Heat. We were in many cities that people didn't know about.
04:09We kept it a little quiet. Over the past few months, FBI offices in all 50 states made crushing
04:15violent crime a top enforcement priority. That's what they did, rounding up and arresting thousands of
04:21the most violent and dangerous criminals. What a novel concept, safe cities.
04:27Trump loves our cities. He always has. And today, he and his team made it clear that no American city
04:33should be ever left behind. And their early crime-fighting results so far have been pretty stunning.
04:39He also led the charge of the FBI's 10 most wanted fugitives. These people have been on the run for years.
04:45And in seven months, you captured not one, not two, not three, but four of the FBI's most top 10
04:52fugitives. Four. The Biden administration captured four in all of four years. You're on seven, and we're
04:57going to get to 10. We're going to get to 10 of 10. This includes a lady who murdered her six-year-old
05:01handicapped child and fled to India. This includes a narco-trafficker. This includes a sex trafficker.
05:06Now, not just that. Thousands of arrests, bad people off the streets. And in a move that will
05:13likely be controversial in some quarters, the administration clearly intends to use every
05:18tool at its disposal to stop drugs from ever reaching U.S. soil. So does that mean striking
05:24cartel operations not just on sea, but on land? We are certainly looking at land now because we've
05:31got the sea very well under control. We've had a couple of days where there isn't a boat to be
05:37found. And I view that as a good thing, not a bad thing. But we had tremendous amounts coming in by
05:42boats, by very expensive boats. You know, they have a lot of money, very fast, very expensive boats that
05:47were pretty big. Look out, Venezuela. Hope you like fireworks. And as Democrats kowtow to pro-Hamas,
05:55pro-trans, anti-American rageaholics, Trump's cabinet is engaging in complex trade maneuvers
06:01to put our only real adversary back on their heels. And if China thought, by the way, that going
06:07Cujo on us with rare earths would make Trump crumble, there's a big piece in the Wall Street
06:11Journal about that today. Well, they miscalculated big time. In fact, President Xi just ensured that
06:17Trump's team would rally the world. This is China versus the world. It's not a U.S.-China problem.
06:23We're going to be speaking with our European allies, with Australia, with Canada, with India,
06:30and the Asian democracies. And we're going to have a fulsome group response to this. They are a
06:39command and control economy, and they are going to neither command nor control us. And we're going
06:45to assert sovereignty. So are the Western allies. Only Scott Besant could, you know, come off of the
06:52word fulsome and just love that, right? Well, given the high stakes here, we should all say a prayer of
06:58gratitude today that Kamala, a Kamala-appointed Treasury Secretary, isn't up against China today.
07:04Xi would be clinking champagne glasses right now in Taiwan. And Secretary They Them would be ordering a
07:10large, extra-large box of Depends. Instead, we have a bright economic outlook, a fantastic team, and gas prices
07:18way down. $37, by the way, cheaper. I noticed this when I went to fill my tank today than just three
07:24years ago. Wow. So yeah, AI is gobbling jobs, but that's why we need to keep reshoring all of our
07:31manufacturing. Everything we can, move it back here, and also remove all the illegal aliens that we can.
07:37The jobs created, the jobs brought here should be for Americans only. And yes, some legal immigrants
07:44as well, period. And by the way, banks, no one's talking about this either today. Banks are projecting
07:50solid growth. Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, and the stock market today neared
07:57another all-time high. So there's a lot of work that remains to be done. Trump has said this
08:02repeatedly. Many challenges remain. It's going to be tough. But Trump and his staff are putting in the
08:07hard work, and it is a lot of work to do what they're doing. And it's the work, by the way, that
08:11the office requires. You can't call a lid at 11 a.m. and be a real president. So day by day,
08:18week by week, month by month, Trump's like a thoroughbred who loves the race. His foreign
08:26policy success, his coalition building in the Middle East was a masterstroke. He reinvented the
08:31U.S. approach to geopolitics and is now restoring America's economy. He makes the whiners look smaller
08:38and more insignificant by the day. And that's the angle. Here with Reaction Montana, Senator Tim
08:45Sheehy. Senator, great to see you tonight, as always. This is a wild time because he took that
08:51success in the Middle East and the world coming to him. And now he's using that coalition, a lot of
08:58people in that coalition, a lot of leaders in that coalition, to pivot in this move against China,
09:03threatening the rare earth supply for the world. Wow. Yeah, I mean, it's really fourth dimensional
09:09geopolitics that he's running here. From one crisis to another, he's moving pretty seamlessly. And he's
09:14got an awesome team around him, as you mentioned. Secretary Rubio's doing a great job. Steve Witkoff,
09:18Jared, of course, Secretary Besant. We're so lucky to have these amazing minds around the president.
09:23And I mean, the guy is nonstop. He's got a nuclear reactor in his stomach. I mean, he's working. I mean,
09:28he's called me at two in the morning. He flies from one country to the next. Yeah. And he lands 7 a.m.
09:33on a Saturday. He's on the phone. He's on a plane to another country. He's back. He gets off the plane
09:37here. He's doing a Charlie Kirk ceremony. So he's working hard. And most importantly, he's getting
09:41results. And that's what we need. America needs results. After all these 20 plus years of geopolitical
09:46wandering, we're getting results. We're going to get more into the Mamdani issue later on in the show.
09:52But just that one soundbite where he wouldn't say that Hamas should disarm. What do you take from
09:58that? Well, if anybody watched the videos today of Hamas reasserting control over Gaza, everyone
10:04who wanted the IDF out of Gaza because they're a terrible genocidal force. Well, now they're
10:08actually watching Hamas today executing people in lines, putting people on the knees in the street,
10:13executing them. And our current Democrat Party can't even find it in their platform to condemn
10:18outright murder, disgusting terrorism and mass death at the hands of Hamas and Islamic radicals
10:24around the world. So I think the party's lost right now. You know, we won last fall in historic
10:28margins by delivering common sense. America's want a secure border, safe streets, cheap gas,
10:32cops are good, criminals are bad, boys are boys, girls are girls. These are common sense issues that
10:37most Americans agree on. And right now, the Democrats are worried about boys and girls sports.
10:41They want to defend Hamas. And they're worried about protecting the rights of narco terrorists
10:45than they are about our own ICE agents who now have bounties on their head. So common sense is
10:51winning and we're going to keep pushing every day. Senator Connecticut Congressman Jim Himes,
10:55I'm from Connecticut, so I always have to go to Connecticut. Sorry, sorry. Well, it's a beautiful
10:59state, some bad leadership, but compared the United States to this, watch. Maybe in other
11:05dictatorships like North Korea and China and Iran, but in this country, we don't have masked armed
11:10agents ripping civilians out of their cars. And so, yes, of course, there is a upwelling of desire
11:16that the opposition party, that's my party, say, hey, this is not consistent with American values
11:20and it must stop. Another dictatorship comment. They're still doing the Hitler, the Nazi still.
11:28Yeah, it's pretty disgusting. But why do you think, I'm sorry to interrupt, but why do you think
11:32they're repeating what hasn't worked? It's, it's crashed and burned, the whole Hitler, Nazi
11:38dictatorship. Well, why do you think they're going back to that? It's reflexive.
11:42Because the only part of their party that is cohesive and speaking right now is the far left,
11:46the far radical left wing of the party, which is pro-Hamas, pro-transgender ideology, pro-unchecked
11:52mass migration into our country. All these folks are worried about the rights of illegal immigrants
11:56and drug dealers and foreign terrorists, yet they don't seem to be worried about the safety of our ICE
12:00agents. The reason they're wearing masks is because the cartels have prices on their heads.
12:04They're literally paying people to murder them. So for them to protect their identities is
12:08completely reasonable. And of course, they're worried about 300 U.S. National Guardsmen being
12:12sent to a city. They don't seem to have any care for the 10, 15, 20 million illegals who the Biden
12:17administration welcomed into this country, financed their arrival here, paid for their health care,
12:22their clothes, their food, their shelter. That doesn't bother the Democrats at all. Yet 300 National
12:28Guardsmen helping to make our streets safer so that people can go to school safely, can drive their
12:32cars down the street. That apparently is unconstitutional, yet letting millions of illegals into this
12:37country isn't. Do you expect legal action against the president's moves, perhaps, in Venezuela,
12:44bombing the, I imagine, drug labs and gang territory that produces a lot of the drugs that
12:53end up on U.S. soil? I mean, I'm sure there will be legal action. He gets sued for everything. I mean,
12:57I'm sure he gets sued for going to the bathroom in the White House. I mean, they sue him for everything.
13:00But the reality is, we've been executing kinetic operations against drug cartels for decades. The
13:06special operations community I came from, I mean, since the 80s, we've been all over Central and
13:10South America debilitating the drug traffic into the United States. So this is consistent with what
13:14our policy has been at varying degrees of severity, albeit for the last 50 years. But obviously,
13:20it's time to act on these. You know, in 9-11, we lost 3,000 Americans tragically, and we went to war
13:25for 20 years to avenge and prevent that from happening again. These narco terrorists are killing,
13:29in some cases, 50 to 100,000 Americans every single year. Every boat carrying fentanyl and
13:34drugs in this country is a weapon of mass destruction. We have every right to protect
13:37ourselves. Senator, great to see you. Thanks for coming by. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right,
13:41and the teens who jumped former Doge staffer, big balls, just got a big get-out-of-jail-free card.
13:47Here with all the details, Fox News senior national correspondent Kevin Court. Kevin, what can you tell us?
13:51Laura, listen, get pummeled, get justice. Well, not in D.C. That is, if you get the wrong judge on your
13:58case, and a lot of people would argue that's exactly what happened in the case of Edward
14:01Corustein, the tech whiz nicknamed Big Balls. Two 15-year-olds, a boy and a girl from Hyattsville,
14:07that's a suburb of D.C., sentenced to probation by a D.C. judge named Kenda Briggs. Just over two
14:14months after the pair were arrested for the vicious attack on Big Balls on August the 3rd,
14:18it was an attempt at carjacking and an absolutely awful night for Corustein.
14:23Really quickly, I knew something was really off about the situation. So she unlocks the car. I
14:29rush her into the driver's seat. She's able to close the door behind her and lock the doors.
14:33Right as I turn around, they run up on me, and they're just a few feet away,
14:37and they slam me against the car. They start throwing a bunch of punches. We just try to
14:41protect my head the best way that I can. The boy got 12 months probation and strict house arrest,
14:47while the girl was given nine months probation and remanded to a local youth shelter.
14:51As for the judgment, well, the president himself was unimpressed.
14:56You have these radical left judges that they beat the hell out of this guy, and it was many
15:01people against this one guy. I think the judge should be ashamed of himself.
15:08That's a big problem. You know, they can do their job, and then they go into a court,
15:12and the people are protected by these, I don't know where they come from. Where do these people
15:16come from? Where do the judges come from?
15:19Judge Briggs stressing that juvenile court is for rehab, not punishment. Something Judge Jeanine,
15:25by the way, has pointed out is a real problem here in D.C. By the way, their accomplices tonight,
15:30Laura, remain at large. Go figure.
15:34Kevin, thank you very much. And coming up, more on what happened with Zoran Mamdani,
15:39was forced to answer actual questions. Next.
15:47While L.A. is handing money out to illegals, New York City is at risk of losing big, big money
15:54from the federal government if it elects Zoran Mamdani.
15:58The funding for New York and for every place comes through the White House, and I'm very generous,
16:05and I was always very generous with New York. But I wouldn't be generous to a communist,
16:09a guy that's going to take the money and throw it out the window, because you're talking about
16:12hundreds of billions of dollars. And we're not going to let somebody get into office and squander
16:19the taxpayer money from this country. We're not going to let it happen.
16:24While Mamdani didn't address Trump's threat, he did send a public message to the president today
16:29when he was talking with our own Martha McCallum.
16:32I just want to speak directly to the president, which is that I will not be a mayor like Mayor Adams,
16:37who will call you to figure out how to stay out of jail. I won't be a disgraced governor
16:40like Andrew Cuomo, who will call you to ask how to win this election. I can do those things on my
16:45own. I will, however, be a mayor who is ready to speak at any time to lower the cost of living.
16:50That's the way that I'm going to lead the city.
16:52Because leading the city means raising taxes in white neighborhoods, as he said before,
16:58creating government run grocery stores and having social workers respond to 911 calls instead of the
17:04police. But remember, he's for the people.
17:08I've been a state assembly member here in New York City. I've represented 130,000 people in Queens.
17:12And in the time that I've done so, I've not only delivered more than $100 million in increased
17:16bus and subway service. I've also secured half a billion dollars in debt relief for working class
17:21taxi drivers. I stood with those drivers. I organized with those drivers. I went on a 15-day
17:25hunger strike with those drivers.
17:28Oh, a hunger strike. Just what we want in a mayor. Here to discuss, Ari Fleischer,
17:32Fox News contributor, former White House press secretary. Ari, debt relief for taxi drivers.
17:40I think you can unpack that a little bit. But does this qualify someone to be mayor
17:43of the largest city in the United States, financial capital of the world?
17:47Well, heavens no. And two things, first of all. One, nobody should ever again refer to him as a
17:55democratic socialist. America's elections are democratic. That has nothing to do with him.
18:01He is a socialist. And when anybody calls him a democratic socialist, they're trying to clean
18:06him up and make him look normal. He's not normal. He is the definition of extreme socialism. And that is
18:14exactly why he won't lower the cost of living for New Yorkers. Socialism has never done that anywhere
18:20ever around the world where it's been tried. Socialism leads to misery for all. And that's
18:27what he'll do to New York City. So he's a socialist and he's going to be woefully unsuccessful.
18:32Now, well, Trump called him a communist today and has before, as have many other people given his views.
18:37And look, a lot of young people are robbed of really learning real history. But socialism brings
18:45scarcity, the opposite of opportunity and freedom, scarcity of resources. And you're right, misery and
18:53of course, less liberty for all. But the mayor's race, Ari, is raking in millions of dollars. A new story
19:02from Bloomberg that after Adams dropped out a few weeks ago, big donors have coalesced around
19:07PACs supporting Andrew Cuomo or opposing Momdani. Big story tonight about Bill Ackman and Steve Wynn
19:17and others ponying up big time. But can that do the trick? He's very slick, Momdani. He speaks.
19:24He's a socialist with a smile. Speaks like just a normal guy. He's just going to help everybody out.
19:32And isn't this going to be fun? We're going to all have fun together with socialism.
19:36A socialist with a smile is exactly what we have the most to fear. Because if socialism in and of
19:41itself wasn't so bad, when you try to hide it, when you act as if it's going to be good for people,
19:46that you'll be able to get prices down, reduce the cost of food or give people free bus rides.
19:51This is where socialism with deception. And that's all he is. As for the donors,
19:57of course, they're going to give to an alternative to Momdani. They don't want New York City to go
20:02down the tubes. The problem New Yorkers have, and of course, I was born in Manhattan. I was raised in
20:07New York, lived there for 21 years after I left the White House. The problem New Yorkers have is
20:13Cuomo is such a flawed candidate. So the alternative to Momdani is really not good from an ethical point
20:19of view, COVID point of view, an honesty point of view. He's a failed governor, but he is the only
20:25alternative to Momdani. It doesn't surprise me, of course, that money is going to Momdani's opponent. I
20:31hope that they're successful. I don't want Momdani to win that race. It would just be a terrible disaster
20:36for New York City.
20:38Well, it's another indictment on the state of the Democrat Party, especially in these blue states
20:42where they've just lurched to the left, or sheer incompetence, corruption, or just plain radical.
20:48That's the panoply of choices in these blue states. Ari, thank you very much.
20:53And coming up, a case argued in the Supreme Court today could determine
20:57who wins the majority in the midterms. I'll explain next.
21:00This is a Fox News alert. President Trump hosting a dinner tonight. Big donors,
21:07the East Room of the White House. It should be starting any moment.
21:10There are people who donated to the new ballroom. Seats 1,000 people from Amazon, Meta, Google,
21:17Lockheed Martin, Palantir, and others. They're all going to show up. We're going to monitor,
21:21bring you any breaking news that comes from that.
21:24All right. It's tough for Democrats. They try to have it both ways on issues like redistricting,
21:29right? They like redistricting in states like California. They don't like redistricting when
21:36it happens in Texas, but they like it when it's happening in another blue state.
21:40And then when the issue goes all the way to the Supreme Court, different iteration of this,
21:45it's a disaster. And it's racist. The outcome, of course. The justice today heard oral arguments for
21:50Louisiana against Calais. It centers on a majority black district added in January 2024 to comply with
21:58Section 2 of the Federal Voting Rights Act. The issue is whether the state relied too heavily on
22:03race when redrawing this district. But why should you care about a district in one state? You might
22:10not live there. You think, oh, this is an esoteric conversation, Ingram. Why are we even doing it
22:14tonight? Because whatever the court decides, it could determine who controls the majority in the
22:19midterms. Politico calling it a nightmare scenario for Democrats if the Supreme Court guts Section 2 of
22:25the Voting Rights Act because it could lead to as many as 19 seats going to Republicans.
22:32That's no surprise at all that Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson went all in on using race.
22:38My kind of paradigmatic example of this is something like the ADA. Congress passed the Americans with
22:47Disabilities Act against the backdrop of a world that was generally not accessible to people with
22:53disabilities. Congress said the facilities have to be made equally open to people with disabilities if
22:59readily possible. I guess I don't understand why that's not what's happening here. The idea in
23:07Section 2 is that we are responding to current-day manifestations of past and present decisions that
23:16disadvantage minorities and make it so that they don't have equal access to the voting system,
23:24right? They're disabled. So being black is the same as being disabled. And when Justice Sonia
23:32Sotomayor tried to argue in favor of these black congressional districts, well, you be the judge
23:37about whether it went over so well. There's just no reason to assume that because there's a large
23:43democratic population in Louisiana that doesn't have a district that that's a racial reason rather
23:48than a partisan reason. If you can't separate out the two, it's impossible. But you can separate out
23:53the two. You can control for party and you can require them to draw a map that meets the political
23:58objectives. And again, the last thing that you said earlier, that means Section 2 has no effect.
24:02That's not true. The examples I gave you earlier about areas like Harlem and in Florida where you have
24:08of the same party and of the state that controls that party differences in the races, that's where Section 2
24:15does work. You have proof of that here? No, you don't. What you have here is that Republicans and Democrats
24:19are different. There's no... No, you have some that even white Republicans or white Democrats won't vote for
24:28black candidates. Right. But if these were white Democrats, there's no reason to think they would have a
24:32second district. None. And so what is happening here is their argument is because these Democrats
24:38happen to be black, they get a second district. If they were all white, we all agree they wouldn't
24:43get a second district. That is literally the definition of race subordinating traditional
24:47principles. I'm not sure Justice Sotomayor even read the briefs in this case. Did you read any of the
24:54briefs, any of it whatsoever? Luckily, my old boss, Justice Clarence Thomas, was there to get some
25:00actual answers starting with the case that led to this entire thing? What role did Robinson play in
25:07the development of SB 8? Justice Thomas, Robinson is the only reason SB 8 exists. We fought tooth and
25:15nail in the Robinson litigation itself in telling the courts that we did not think the Constitution
25:21permitted us to draw a second majority black district. As you know, under protest, we drew SB 8
25:27because the threat was that the federal courts were going to do it if we didn't. And that's, I mean,
25:32I think that's the best way to conceive of why SB 8 exists. We would never pass SB 8 in the first
25:37instance without Robinson, Justice Thomas. What were the findings in Robinson? The finding by the middle
25:44district in Robinson was that the plaintiffs in this case were likely to show a violation of
25:50Section 2. That was the bottom line. And when our legislature saw that, we understood the marching
25:55order. And that's why you see SB 8 as it exists today.
25:59Here to react to Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt. I mean, did you get continuing legal education credit
26:04for watching that, Eric? I'm not sure I was following that, but we'll see. What Justice Thomas was getting
26:10at, though, is that this district would not exist at all without the 2022 court case forcing it to
26:17happen. Right. They had a 5-1 map. The court then made them kind of go back into a 4-2 map. And this
26:23case is a very important case because I think it'll come down 5-4, 6-3 just based on the alignment.
26:28But basically, you can't use race as a reason to have a congressional district. I mean, this sort of
26:32gets back to this very important idea in this country. Just like you're not guaranteed the result
26:37of somebody who is of your race or of your religion. You vote in this representative republic
26:43for people. And I think the court is either going to strike down the Voting Rights Act or maybe a
26:48middle ground would be something. Oh, no. The middle ground. You know what the middle ground
26:51always ends up doing? Creating more confusion and more litigation. Well, right. But I think
26:55Roberts is that swing vote. But he's already said in a previous case, in the Harvard case,
26:59we need to stop divvying up this country by race. So I'm pretty confident that the Voting Rights Act
27:03will probably be thrown out here. So this has been used, since I was a law clerk,
27:07it's been used as a cudgel, a political cudgel. And yet lots of Republicans or conservatives,
27:15they knew that this had to go. But a lot of them were afraid to kind of say it, right? Because
27:20they were, oh, if you say this, you're a racist. And no, it's a constitutional question.
27:25Right. You shouldn't discriminate on the basis of race. And if you want to get rid of discrimination
27:28based on race, you should stop discriminating based on race. And I think that's what this case
27:32is going to come down to. But the Democrats know the reason why they're kicking and screaming
27:36here is they know it means potentially 19 seats are drawn like this, not to mention the five seats
27:42that are based on a fake algorithm during COVID to give them additional seats. So this is that
27:47district district, right? That screen right now. That is like an amoeba mixed with a bad virus mixed
27:53with Rorschach. I don't know what that is. I think a lot of these kind of institutional ways that the
27:58Democrats protected these majorities using race as that cudgel are probably going to go away. And we're
28:03going to have districts that again are complying with the constitutional principle that you
28:06shouldn't discriminate based on race. Well, this idea that just merit is what matters and you want
28:11everyone to have equal opportunity. You want government or public schools to actually teach
28:15all kids and be competitive with other schools. And that's why school choices is good. So give kids
28:20a chance to learn. That's what brings people up from poverty or, or unfortunate circumstances,
28:26regardless of your race. But the Democrats fight those things that actually work. That's what's
28:31crazy. They do. And, and you could hear by, you know, Justice Jackson's completely bought
28:35into this critical race theory tenant, which is that, um, only a black Democrat can represent
28:40black Americans. That a white Democrat won't vote for a black candidate. Right. I mean, when I heard
28:45that, I was like, what? Yeah. How did Obama get elected twice? Like what did I miss? Right. It's
28:49this race essentialism that's incredibly divisive in this country. All right, Senator, great to see you
28:54as always. We'll see how that case comes down and coming up a huge win against radical trans ideology.
29:05I won an election in a landslide because people are not into the radical left and the Democrat
29:11party is people didn't want to see men playing in women's sports. They didn't want to see transgender
29:17for everybody. Nope, nope, nope. They did not. And the social contagion that is the trans ideology
29:24movement may be coming to an end. A new report reveals that young people are turning away from
29:29changing their genders. Analysis of data from the foundation for individual rights and expression
29:34shows that the share of trans identified students has effectively halved in just two years.
29:41This is a war. The angle has been waging for years against this madness. And now we're finally
29:47seeing the data trend a little bit downward. Here to explain this cultural shift is Eric Kaufman,
29:53professor of politics at the University of Buckingham. He's behind this analysis that went viral on X.
29:58Also with me is Simon Amaya Price. As a young teen, he socially transitioned to a female. During his first
30:05year of college, he desisted and went back to being male. Thank goodness. Eric, let's start with you.
30:11How big of a change is this really? What do you think is behind it?
30:18Well, it is really quite dramatic. I mean, it's a halving of the share of American undergraduates who
30:25no longer identify or who identify something other than male or female. So that kind of non-binary
30:31share has really been cut in half. Now, what's behind it is quite interesting. I mean, I looked at a
30:37number of explanations, religiosity, a shift to the right. None of those things actually seem to pan
30:42out. But what one thing that did seem to matter was mental health has improved over the last three
30:47years. Less anxiety, less depression. And I think that is one of the factors that explains the decline
30:54in identification with trans and also with queer sexualities.
30:58Well, Simon, you said you were the first person in your high school to identify as trans. But by the time
31:06you graduate, you know, one sixth of your class identified as trans. I mean, is this cultural
31:14brainwashing, TikTok, Instagram, I mean, the cultural mainstreaming of it, you get special attention.
31:22What was it?
31:25Well, look, we really, I lived through a very unique moment in politics and culture. In my sex ed class,
31:33I learned about the gender unicorn along learning about STDs. Look, the thing is that you're getting
31:38it from everywhere. You're getting it from the schools, from the media, even from the churches
31:42and the synagogues. So it's no wonder that I, along with many of my classmates, got stuck in this.
31:48Yeah, I mean, to me, it seems pretty obvious, Eric, that this was a push, whether you call it
31:56grooming or brainwashing or spreading of this madness, it was so obvious. I mean, when I was in high school,
32:06the 1980s, I didn't know anyone who was trans. And then suddenly the percentage increases by, in some cases,
32:132,000 percent. Something has to be responsible for that. It just didn't, you know, people didn't just recognize
32:19this wonderful condition and suddenly, you know, we were all supposed to be okay with it.
32:26Yeah, I think that's right, Laura. I think this really is a social trend, like a fashion that's
32:32accounting for most of it. Now, of course, progressives will say, well, this is because
32:36the stigma was lifted. The problem with that argument is if we look at the student data that
32:41I looked at the fire data, over 50,000 sample sizes, the people who feel who are self-censoring
32:47the most are conservatives, not liberals, not people on, you know, who might be of a different
32:52gender. So I don't think the angle of social stigma is towards people coming out as a different
32:59gender, for example, and that that's increased because of the Trump administration.
33:04Well, I think just common sense is kind of reigning supreme here, Simon. You say you socially
33:10transitioned in high school. So what did that mean, and why didn't you decide to ultimately
33:15medically transition? Thank God you did not.
33:21Yeah, so to clarify, I only socially transitioned in my first year of college, though my first
33:26year of college was when I was 16. The real reason that I did not medically transition is
33:33a combination of luck and some great decisions by my father. He, you know, really held the line
33:40and said no to my pediatrician who asked him, do you want a dead son or a living daughter?
33:47And he said to me, I'm not going to support this. I'm not going to give you financial
33:52assistance in transitioning. And I was lucky that a series of unfortunate events happened in my first
33:58year of college. Basically, I questioned affirmative action and was immediately ostracized. And all of a
34:04sudden, the social points I had gotten from being transgender disappeared overnight.
34:09Wow. Oh, that is an interesting story. Your parents. And then you kind of saw the, you know,
34:14left the censorious left for what it was. Eric and Simon, we're going to stay on this. Thank you
34:18very much for your insights tonight. And coming up, Democrats jostle to become the torchbearers
34:24of their party. And it's getting weirder by the moment. Seen and unseen. Raymond Arroyo is next.
34:32Reveal the stories behind the headlines. And for that, we turn to Fox News contributor,
34:35Raymond Arroyo. All right, Raymond, it's getting very strange, strange in the Democrat world.
34:40Hakeem Jeffries has a rousing shutdown oratory.
34:44Uh-oh. House Republicans shut the government down. Then they ran out of town. And for the last
34:52three weeks, they're nowhere to be found. If this was meant to rouse the troops, I think he failed.
34:59Al Green behind him, Laura, looked like he was trying to imagine himself anywhere but behind
35:03Hakeem Jeffries. Passing a kidney stone, more like it. This is sad. Yeah, this is a pathetic
35:07display. But, you know, if you're going to try to excite the crowd, meter, rhythm is needed for a
35:13champ. You can't cut it to quarter time in the middle. It loses the urgency. If you're going to do
35:20Dr. Seuss, you've got to really do Dr. Seuss. You've got to hit the timer. Hit it. And I think
35:25the government, along with his brain, shut down. And while Jeffries is freestyling on the Hill,
35:31Kamala Harris is still out claiming she's the best person to be president and offering this
35:35very insightful critique of the Trump administration. I'm sorry. It's f***ed up. I was the United States
35:42Senator, second black woman elected in the history of the United States Senate. And I was the first
35:48woman vice president of the United States. Well, some people have actually said I was the most
35:53qualified candidate ever to run for president. Who are those people? Who are those people? I want a
35:59list. Yeah, I want to interview those people. I think you're the best. But it's words without
36:04substance. She just kind of, it's titles thrown out. The woman was in, can you imagine her dealing
36:10with Bibi Netanyahu? No, no, no, no. Imagine her right now dealing with President Xi. Oh, my Lord.
36:17Yeah, she whiz. She whiz. She whiz. All right, if Kamala gave us some sort of momentary reprieve
36:23from her word of the day, it looks like Gavin Newsom is taking it up. Oh. Very exciting. He was
36:28asked about the pro-Israel lobbying group, AIPAC. The word of the day is interesting. It's interesting.
36:35It's interesting. I haven't thought about AIPAC. It's interesting. You're like the first to bring
36:40up AIPAC in years, which is interesting, which is just interesting. It's interesting. You say that
36:45J-PAC perhaps more, but AIPAC less and less. Okay. Fair enough. Which is just interesting. It's just
36:51interesting. He's nervous about that AIPAC question. What is it? Can I ask you a question? What is it
36:56about these men during podcasts? They cross their legs and they become so small and tiny?
37:02They disappear into the tiniest chairs. Yeah. It's like they're trying to occupy no
37:08person. Barack Obama had the legs so tight. I thought he was going to do a pretzel with
37:12those legs. Very masculine. That read the opposite. Again, the nonverbal things that Gavin is doing,
37:19very odd. People see this and go, what is it? Laura, remember when Bette Midler appeared on
37:24the Carson show and she serenaded Johnny off the air. Now she's singing Colbert off the air
37:30with a new rendition of the wind beneath my wings or what I like to call breaking wind beneath my
37:35stings. It must have been cold here at the late show. Despite the high ratings and awards,
37:45you stand for what's right with wit and class. Thank you. And I hold you high as the great ego.
37:54Cause you never kissed Bjorn.
38:00What do you even say about this? Wait a second. That makes me, that makes me just love beaches,
38:07the movie all the more from beaches to beach. I mean, this woman, I always tell people you're in
38:14the arts. You're a singer beloved by generations. People listen to your music. You're bigger than
38:19politics until you're not, until you diminish yourself in this way and ruin a song that some
38:25people might like. I don't, but others might like it's, it's kind of sad to watch this. And if
38:30you're going to sing the song, do it and keep that wind bag, wind bag beneath my wings.
38:35I mean, that was just, if you're in an elevator and you're stuck and that song comes on or if
38:41you're shopping, maybe at TJ Maxx and that comes on, forget about it.
38:47Okay. Before we go, did you see Trump and Macron? They did this 25 second hand shape the other day.
38:53They were practically like arm wrestling. I mean, but it's a domination game, Laura. It's like all
38:57about pulling and yanking and showing them who's boss and he's grabbing and no, it's don't do that.
39:03Stop it. Stop it. You win. I'll let you win. I'll let you win. It's okay. Don't have to,
39:08I got this. Don't ruin the, don't run the double breast. Oh, sorry. I was just trying to indicate
39:13what happened. I wasn't trying to get into a brawl. I love this. So look, look how he grabs
39:20him and look, he's like, okay, let me go now, Donald. No, no, let me go. Now you can let me
39:24go. And Trump was, Trump was kind of annoyed. He's like, all right, French fry. You're not going
39:30anywhere. All right. And then he's, he keeps trying to kind of leave and Trump, holding him in,
39:35holding him in. I didn't care for you. I didn't care for that last. I think he gives dominance
39:40gesture and entirely new me. I didn't know when that was going to end. I'm like, when is the date
39:44going to end here? This is quite a, they need to dispatch him to get rid of people's lives. Did
39:50we just change for the worst tonight? They're going to be singing wind beneath my wings. They're going
39:56to be humming it as they go to bed. What'd you say, Sam? Sam just said something. Oh yeah. Sam's already
40:01humming it in the control room. So I'm sorry that we did this to you. I'm sorry. I apologize.
40:08But the Johnny Carson moment was a wonderful moment. Long time ago. Leave that long behind.
40:12All right, Raymond. Thank you. Jesse Waters is next. See you tomorrow night.
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