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EastEnders 14th October 2025

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00:00Hello Joel, we've spoken to Julie Bates and she has agreed to be your
00:23appropriateness out of this way good job thank you have have you spoken to my dad
00:42tell me you're not going to the station no I'm going to the hospital look I know what
00:54you must think Sharon and I don't blame her but I love her all right and I've got to be
01:00there for her oh that's up to Vicky but if she says she's done then you better hear
01:04it oh and that son of yours will never set foot in my house again you got it
01:17can you believe a kid did all that damage I thought it was a stranger that had attacked
01:23I know I know do you think Tommy what no yeah but when he was going through that bad yeah but it
01:28wasn't like that I know you listen he wasn't involved all right tell me up no not yet darling
01:36no you did good you should be proud of him yeah we are we really are in my cat yeah yeah the police
01:42are going to interview him later maybe they know more maybe Joel's told him something oh no my bad
01:47he is up all right buddy fancy a bowl of sugar with some milk on top of it you're talking about me
01:53something about the police they're coming to speak to you later you don't think they're going to
02:03arrest me do you that little girl has been through so much losing her mum and then her dad going to
02:12prison the last thing she needs the very last thing she needs is someone coming in and pulling the rug
02:17from underneath her again i'm just saying just saying i mean she's right to be fair though i made a
02:28complete pegs here of it i'm sorry darling i just wish i could make it up to him to both of them
02:35coffee please cheer yourself up sweetheart
02:40oi teddy you said you'd give me a quote last night i've still heard nothing do you want my business or
02:46what i'm sorry i've had a lot on well come on how much ballpark 60. 60 grand well plus the v18 plus v18
02:57i'll tell you can't afford that that is extortionate for taking out a couple of stud boys and the rest
03:03you'll be surprised what these old houses turn up but please be my guest get some more quotes oh trust me
03:09are you gonna eat that or just destroy it is it harry what harry the reason you're in this mood
03:23i'm not in a mood is he still in cardiff have you called him obviously not why not because i don't chase
03:33after boys maybe harry harry thinks that you're super chilled and i'm not that bothered about him exactly
03:42that's exactly the point what
03:45how's your bellyache bad well hopefully you feel all right for school tomorrow eh fingers crossed
04:07lex look i'm really sorry i didn't tell you about me and your dad splitting up it's fine it's not
04:16fine though is it you're happy he's happy and apparently dad's happy too so whatever it's just
04:24it's complicated our relationships are complicated yep it is okay to feel sad you know i feel sad
04:33not that sad obviously your dad's still your dad duh and you know when he gets out of prison he'll be in
04:42your life as as will i and maybe one day johnny what if you don't want johnny around right now then
04:49that's fine obviously so you'll break up with him i'm not saying that if you had to choose who would you
04:57choose me or him i have to think about that no no you you obviously
05:08he's loaded right
05:09he can get us a takeaway for lunch
05:16that was your bellyache
05:20just call him
05:20i can't i can't it's too needy
05:28anna it's ringing give me the phone back give me the phone they're still ringing
05:36yo it's harry voicemail sorry
05:43hi harry it's gina do you remember me yeah i just wanted to say that i hope that waitress down in
05:47cardiff was worth it i actually might go out myself tonight and find a new side piece because
05:52that's all you were
05:58what that was a bit no no no you were right thanks and i do i feel like much better now
06:04oh so tonight you're in yeah i don't know if i will see you at harry's barn at like lunch lunch
06:12yeah i fancy starting early
06:18hi harry it's gina do you remember me yeah i just wanted to say that i hope that waitress down in
06:22cardiff was worth it i actually might go out myself tonight and find a new side piece because that's
06:27all you were oh man she might actually like you you know they only act like that one they do
06:45please just let me go man all right i've learned my lesson i'm not going to do anything else stupid
06:50just please let me go all right okay hey look just just tell me where that camera's linked to you
06:58hmm or the girlfriend can pay you back with sleeping this around the block while you stay here
07:07fun
07:22our boy yes
07:37i am so sorry
08:00i am so sorry
08:07come
08:19excuse me uh you haven't seen mrs c have you you've already asked me that have i i'm really sorry
08:28so what did you say she's probably in the laundrette she told you that did she no you told me that's
08:35that's where she works i'm just putting two and two together
08:38yeah okay so um sorry where where is the laundry
08:44what are you looking at
08:45okay just you kid okay well can you stop because it's freaking casablanca great film i'm free bro
08:52take him home i don't know him i don't either but he keeps asking me about someone called mrs c and
09:05he's got egg and he's got egg down his front making my heart egg i can't handle it just take him home
09:10please and then i'll come back shall i i'll be at the bar so i'll be doing this out of the goodness of
09:16my heart with my heart with no reward whatsoever hey i didn't say there'd be no reward just might be a little delayed
09:22hello should we get you home then mr orson wells
09:35that's who you remind me of taller younger orson wells orson who wells is he fit he's dead now sadly
09:48i bet he was fit right jasmine yeah it's uncanny yes stunning resemblance oh thank you very much
09:57sure i'm supposed to make from mr c here no she said sorry to disappoint but she had to cancel oh right
10:04is she yeah she's there yeah of course he he hit me and he didn't even look shocked it was like it made him
10:17feel proud he is a psychopath boss he needs to be behind bars
10:27what
10:35nothing
10:39have you seen him no have you spoken to him
10:47i can't be as appropriate i don't anyway you know i'm a witness
10:53julie bates is doing it
10:56poor cat
10:57but you you wouldn't have wanted to though would you no
11:03no
11:12i am gonna have to see him at some point though aren't i
11:14and i am so sorry
11:23have been there
11:24i did everything i could
11:30what do you want me to do what do you want me to disown him
11:36let the people who were trained to deal with him deal with him
11:40i'm still his dad are you defending him no no
11:49who is it
12:00who is it it's um it's julie
12:02it's um it's julie
12:08oh
12:12hello julie hi
12:18who's
12:18us
12:18and i just thought i'd give you a quick call to um update you as to how jol's getting on
12:26yeah so he's um
12:27he's um
12:28okay he's had dna samples taken
12:30and hair um blood uh nail scrapings and hand swaps
12:34he's just waiting to be interviewed now
12:36oh he's had some weed picks and some juice as well
12:40what what he's not five
12:43look i'm sorry that was
12:46it's okay i understand ross do you
12:50you do realize i've taken the day off work to be here don't you
12:53taking time away from being with nigel
12:55yeah i know and i i'm sorry look i i am um
13:03um can i um can i can i ask you something please
13:06yep and i mean you you know kids all right i mean you talk about his age
13:15yeah
13:17do you um
13:21i mean do you do you think he could be like a psychopath or something
13:25ross um i'm not trained to diagnose children i'm not a psychologist um anyway i don't really
13:40believe in labels i don't see my students that way
13:48i see young people who often struggle to make sense of a very confusing world
13:55uh thank you he's asking for you
14:07are you there ross yeah i'm still there
14:10do you think you might make it down to the station
14:24um
14:41uh what are you doing in here
14:44well harry gave me the keys he needed his laptop collecting
14:47but i thought you was in cardiff with him and kojo no
14:50well yeah i came back from work i thought i'd do him a favour
14:55all right
14:58what are you doing there anyway i thought the bar don't open till seven
15:02they don't
15:03do you think you're going to be a good listener
15:13what's that supposed to mean it means
15:16you look far too pretty to be letting some donut like harry let you down innit
15:24you're covering these because i ain't getting the sack because of this yeah
15:28come on
15:34so this was our idea yep
15:38i cannot believe she's come around already i know
15:41hi johnny hey lex do you do you mind if i call you lex um sure cool
15:48poor dude
15:49um chicken burger right and chips with extra mayo am i right what'd you get for pudding
15:59lex no no no no that's all right i just i i didn't think um
16:04it's all right give me a phone i'll order one now it'll be him all the time we're done lexi
16:08that's rude no no no honestly honestly carl don't mind i mean you're not going to get anywhere
16:11in life without a bit of hustle there you go next
16:14nothing too much yeah sure
16:21welcome to the world of teenage them am i um am i doing okay you're doing great yeah
16:33yeah guys are full if you ask me yeah yeah whatever
16:38so what did he do
16:45nothing
16:48i mean that's precisely the problem nothing
16:50ah so he's erring you
16:54it's the arrogance of it i don't get all this modern dating stuff it's not really how i operate
17:00huh oh for real yeah okay you know i'm proper old-fashioned me you know just texting back and
17:09forth upside down emojis you know like to call her with me you know share her voice you know like
17:16to say where i'm gonna be and i'll be there say what i'm gonna do and i'll do it and there's a pot of
17:21gold at the end of that rainbow right yeah yeah all right okay yeah fair play
17:30so why did you say that harry asked you to get his laptop again
17:34well um mine broke in it so i'm borrowing his right and you'll be paying him by chips and his woman yeah
17:40oh it's still his woman sorry i'm late i'm late all right
17:52little sis hmm yeah well i was just leaving it's been delightful
17:58hey do you want my number
18:09oh
18:24till next time
18:27bye
18:31i thought you're supposed to be in cardiff
18:32huh oh yeah yeah i got back early apparently and now you're day drinking with it sorry gina what
18:47right this is on the down the claim sound standard okay look i really appreciate it
18:53how's um how's amy by the way i'll come and get you when your piece finished yeah
19:23you know she likes the arctic monkeys what no get your own music kids
19:49you know if this carries on we might actually be okay yeah and two stone heavier
19:57oh
20:00it's all right it's this work sorry
20:04oh my god
20:08what is it so when lex was ordering donuts she sent an email to the last 50 clients in my inbox
20:14apparently i'm a fat pig who steals husbands and breaks up families johnny i'm so sorry
20:19my boss wants to save me i'll i'll talk to her
20:24yeah sure we'll short this right
20:31there's nothing on there apart from pictures of code you're picking his nose so
20:35somewhat clear
20:40yep and you're still there
20:41ravi says uh gold star for telling us where the laptop was
20:53nah cool anyway
20:56so i can go now yeah nope not yet lovey boy
21:03what
21:03this is from up high
21:06yeah
21:09oh
21:10i bumped into your missus earlier
21:13i mean if you can call her that yeah she asked for my number
21:17i don't want to chill out my boy
21:28wait don't go
21:29what what do you want
21:39run out of gear
21:42what and then you forgot how to exercise your manners or what
21:44please
21:56please
21:58please
22:10There you go.
22:17Thanks.
22:20Is it all right if my mum and dad are here?
22:22Yeah, that's fine, Tommy.
22:23Can I get you anything else?
22:25We're fine. Thank you.
22:32Can you tell us what happened last night
22:35between you and Vicky Fowler?
22:40I don't know.
22:45We had a row.
22:49She was really aggressive.
22:52Came at me hard.
22:55And I was scared.
22:59So I gave her a little push.
23:03And she must have tripped
23:07and banged her face or whatever.
23:13So, yeah, that's basically...
23:15That's basically what happened.
23:22It was...
23:24an accident.
23:26I didn't mean to.
23:28I just hate in the moment.
23:32So he messaged me.
23:39Said to me in our old garage.
23:42Only when I got there, he was...
23:44He was weird.
23:47Weird?
23:50An hyper.
23:50And, yeah, he told me he got in an argument with his step-mum
23:55and they'd pushed her.
23:57And you believed him?
24:02And he asked me to get him some clothes.
24:04And, you know,
24:07he's a mate.
24:08I wanted to help him.
24:13Only when I got back here...
24:14I saw her.
24:21You saw the victim?
24:23Vicky Fowler?
24:27Being put in an ambulance and...
24:31And then I knew
24:32that wasn't right.
24:36And then what did you do?
24:37I brought him the clothes.
24:47So you didn't...
24:49tell anyone what you were doing?
24:51I spoke to my sister.
24:54You spoke to Zoe?
24:55Yeah, but...
24:56I didn't tell her.
25:00Sorry, I just...
25:01I just didn't know who to believe.
25:04It's okay, Tommy.
25:05You're doing really well.
25:07Was it really him?
25:14Did he really do that to her?
25:25Have we spoken to Vicky?
25:27And she's given us
25:28a very different version of events.
25:30She's lying.
25:31Why would she do that?
25:33Because
25:34she's like all women, I know.
25:36She hates me.
25:38And she hates men.
25:40All the women you know hate men?
25:43See, even you.
25:45The way you look at me.
25:47Like I'm dangerous.
25:50All the girls in school,
25:52they stand around,
25:53just talking about men.
25:55How all the world's problems
25:57are because of us.
25:58It's like you're judging us
26:02before we even do anything.
26:05It's like you think you know exactly who I am
26:11or what I am.
26:15But it ain't true.
26:16I'm just a kid
26:21trying to make a life
26:22for myself.
26:26Trying to
26:27be better.
26:31I'm just a kid.
26:32Will he be charged?
26:37It will be up to the SIO
26:38whether any action
26:39will be taken
26:39with respect to
26:40Tommy assisting Joel.
26:42But
26:43I suspect his cooperation
26:45will go a long way.
26:46Bye.
26:48Thanks.
26:48Mum, I'm so, so sorry.
26:57Oh, come here.
26:58Oh, my boy.
27:00My boy.
27:01It's all right.
27:01Why did you take a video of her
27:06unconscious on the floor?
27:10We've seen it, Joel.
27:12Did you take it as a trophy
27:14to come back to
27:15and watch alone?
27:17Or was it to show off
27:18to your mates?
27:18Where did you get it?
27:20Please answer the question, Joel.
27:21Where did you get it?
27:22You attacked her
27:23and then you got out your phone
27:25and instead of calling
27:26an ambulance to help her,
27:28you filmed it.
27:29My dad!
27:30Was this him?
27:31Wait, Joel.
27:31Get off me.
27:32Joel, how come my own dad
27:33did this?
27:34My own dad did this?
27:36No, I need to see you.
27:37Dad!
27:37You tell him to come in.
27:39You bring him here now.
27:40No, because I need
27:41to tell him something.
27:42No, we are done.
27:43Do you understand?
27:44We are finished.
27:45Joel.
27:48You're all right.
27:52Will you tell him
27:52he's dead to me?
27:53Well, I look to him.
28:14He's dead to me.
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