Crimewatch Roadshow Season 22 Episode 6

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00:00is crime watch live good morning and a very warm welcome to the second week of

00:08crime watch live today detectives have a really important appeal concerning

00:13allegations of historical sexual abuse at a school the allegations would say

00:19about how children were being taken to staff members bedrooms staff members

00:24were also coming into the dormitories at night it was indiscriminate do you know anything that could

00:31help their investigation welcome to crime watch live

00:34thank you for joining us this morning and we are delighted

01:04to be back with steph mcgovern and hope to get some much-needed information for police on a range

01:10of appeals throughout the week yeah thanks rav it's lovely to be back well today we'll be hearing

01:14how the law caught up with an audacious gang responsible for a spate of cash machine raids

01:20throughout the home counties we were dealing with some sophisticated criminals they were cynically

01:28committing crime in our communities and they had to be stopped

01:31but you'll never guess what they've been up to before this i'll give you a little clue

01:37it involves a gold toilet worth over four million pounds we'll tell you more about that later

01:44certainly will also can you help with the mysterious disappearance of andreas obiteo a 24 year old

01:51student living in london and last seen alive in germany over 20 years ago and we're also joined today

01:58by cheryl corbell the mum of nine-year-old olivia pratt corbell who was tragically shot and killed

02:05in 2022 cheryl's here with her cousin antonia to tell us about their tireless work

02:11to change the law so that convicted criminals are forced to attend court

02:16and face their victims for sentencing as always we are ready to take your calls and emails so watch

02:22get in touch if you can scan our qr code with your phone's camera and you will be taken to our website

02:27with all of our contact details you can call us on 08000 468 999 or text us on 63399

02:36simply start with the word crime leave a space then write your message or you can just send us an email

02:41at cwl at cwl at bbc.co.uk first today we have a very powerful appeal about allegations of historical

02:51sexual abuse at a school now as you would expect this film contains some upsetting themes

02:57i'm detective constable hannah alma from sussex police and i'm in the public protection department

03:06public protection is a department that specializes in protecting safeguarding vulnerable adults and

03:13children covers a wide range of crimes such as domestic violence child exploitation child abuse

03:19in november 2023 sussex police received a report from a member of the public alleging they were

03:27sexually assaulted while attending a school called hearse pierpoint college in west sussex back in the

03:331980s hearse pierpoint college is a large private school that consists of a junior and a senior school

03:42this was an allegation of sexual abuse involving a very young child who'd been a boarder at the school

03:50they had alleged that they had been grooming them over a period of time and they had alleged that

03:56they had been raped although it was reported to have happened many years ago we take any allegation

04:02like this very seriously and it needs to be investigated i made contact with hearse pierpoint college

04:10who were really supportive and they went through all the old people records the staff records and they

04:15told me that almost immediately prior to my contact they had coincidentally received a letter from a past

04:21pupil who was making an allegation against a staff member saying that they had been filming the children

04:28so that was a another separate thing for me to investigate a second allegation made against a

04:35second suspect with a significant amount of time since the alleged abuse took place detectives decided

04:43to reach out to former pupils to gather more information the school had provided me details so that i could

04:50send out letters to appeal and to be um open and say look you were at the school do you remember

04:58anything inappropriate and it was off that first letter i started to send to past pupils that people

05:03then started to make further allegations to me from those letters police received many replies

05:11detailing alleged incidents of non-recent sexual assaults and some of them were from new alleged victims

05:21the allegations that there was abuse happening from the 1960s 1970s 1980s 1990s so it was covering a

05:30significant period of time and involving different members of staff at the school

05:35it was by no means every member of staff at the school there was a large number of people that

05:42were in no way involved at all

05:47the allegations would say about how children were being taken to staff members bedrooms

05:54they had alleged that staff members were coming into the dormitories at night and touching children

05:58whilst they were in bed

05:59and they had alleged staff members were also watching them when they were showering

06:08it was indiscriminate what areas of the school that it took place so it's really

06:13wide-ranging really at the time that these offenses were occurring corporal punishment was part of school

06:19life and some of the suspects in the case were using that as an opportunity to take the children off alone

06:26to get them to remove items of clothing and to carry out sexual abuse but under the guise of it being

06:33corporal punishment

06:35it was important that now we dealt with all these allegations we dealt with complaints arrested suspects

06:40and and really just to take action

06:44statements from individuals who alleged to have been abused whilst they were pupils at the college

06:50are spoken here by actors

06:56most of it's a blur

06:59i was extremely naive

07:01i knew nothing about sex and had been incredibly sheltered from the world

07:07it started with touching then

07:09things progressed

07:11i was worried about what's happening and disturbed by it

07:15i didn't understand

07:17i never even considered telling anyone what happened to me i was just too embarrassed

07:25with cases like this we find that people don't report it at the time when the children

07:30and generally they don't report it as they get older and it takes many years for them to feel ready

07:35and to process what's happened before they're able to make that call

07:38and often the police are the first person that they've ever told about what's happened to them

07:44it's a really difficult decision to come forward and to report something like this particularly if

07:48you've never told anyone before

07:50and one of the things with when you report any sexual offense is you are guaranteed lifelong anonymity

07:56so you can go through the whole process without ever needing to tell anyone

08:00that you have come forward

08:01i've always tried to play it down the effect on me however i'm coming to realize just what an effect

08:09it's had on my relationships and family life i became worried about everything my mental health

08:15deteriorated leaving me overwhelmed a lot of the time and i've had periods of my life where i haven't

08:21been able to work because of how i felt and how i cope in life which in turn has impacted my physical health

08:31typically offenders don't stop offending they don't stop being paedophiles

08:37i want to appeal for people to come forward and no matter how small the information you have is

08:43that might be really relevant to something i'm investigating

08:48these are allegations of incredibly serious sex offenses against children from sexual assaults by

08:53touching all the way through to to rape and these involve children that were as young as seven years

08:58old just started at the junior school through to 13 14 15 it's really important that we get justice for

09:05the people that have come forward

09:11i call myself a survivor but it didn't have to be like that

09:15i was a child and those older than me and those in positions of trust would have known i was a child

09:20these people had a duty of care towards me these people had a responsibility to stop something like

09:26this from happening to me the attacks ended my childhood as i knew it

09:35now hearse pierpoint college say they are deeply saddened to learn of the non-recent allegations that

09:41have been disclosed by former pupils they say their thoughts are with all those affected and that they

09:46are fully cooperating with the police in their ongoing investigation i'm now joined by dc hannah elmer

09:53from sussex police you saw in the film there thanks for coming in today hannah now we should start by

09:57saying it's an extremely difficult thing for anyone to talk about who may have gone through this but

10:03just coming forward is so so important isn't it yeah any allegation can have a significant impact on

10:10someone and when we refer to these investigations these allegations we talk about them being historic

10:16but to these individuals they're not historic this is something they've lived with their entire life

10:21and can cause them significant trauma so for them to come forward is incredibly brave it really is

10:28isn't it so just take us back to the beginning hannah because this started for you as just an isolated

10:33allegation that's correct so january 2024 was when it was first officially passed to me

10:39and i was aware that we had an allegation of historic sexual abuse on a child dating back to the 1980s

10:47and this had occurred at her spear point boarding school which is a private school in west sussex

10:53the school were really supportive and very quickly i was able to establish that we had more than one

10:59report and soon there was multiple allegations from the 60s 70s 80s and 90s so it's because of the the

11:07size of this investigation that i'm making this appeal today obviously we're not going to go into

11:12the specifics of those allegations it's just far too harrowing but can you give us an overview of the

11:18sort of things that you're currently investigating there's a range of offenses um from physical through to

11:25sexual allegations um with some of the most serious sexual offenses being alleged but there was also

11:32um many more subtle incidences of abuse that have been alleged uh for example under the guise of

11:40corporal punishment that was being carried out for gratification you touched on the corporal

11:46punishment it of course at the time of these allegations it was legal but what you're talking

11:51about now is the reports going way beyond anything that would be deemed legal that's correct corporal

11:56punishment was legal um however there were many reports where this was excessive and um that those

12:06many of those allegations would fall under common assault which unfortunately only carries six months

12:12time limit to prosecute and that's why typically these investigations focus on sexual abuse because

12:18there's no prosecution limit so what information do you need from our viewers today i'd like to hear from

12:25anyone that was aware of any allegations of sexual abuse but i would ask anyone that was attended involved

12:31with the school to think back now as an adult and and consider were there things taking place that really

12:37weren't appropriate and things that nowadays we would consider would be really concerning um because

12:45any information no matter how small can help build a much bigger picture and and that can ultimately lead

12:53us to bring individuals to justice and to protect children that could be at risk now so so important

12:59and what would you say to any survivors of this type of of abuse in terms of how they can access help and support

13:06so any allegation is treated really seriously and we do understand that people you know it doesn't

13:12matter how long ago it happened we know that people take time to come forward but i would say that as a victim of sexual abuse

13:20abuse um you are entitled to lifelong anonymity so you could speak to me in confidence with absolutely

13:28no pressure for you to come forward support the allegation but it would allow me to explain the

13:34process to them and also to really importantly signpost to any support really really important

13:41well said uh these are really serious allegations and today's about gathering information

13:46to help build that bigger picture if you have anything to share please do get in touch and just

13:50follow our qr code or go straight to our website we can find all the links on how to report information

13:56now later on we'll be hearing how one woman is using her own tough upbringing to empower young women

14:03battling adversity and abuse the day that i went into prison was finally the day that i felt safe i could

14:10actually start to figure out where things went wrong and how i was going to do something positive about

14:17it that was i guess the beginning of daddyless daughters

14:24first of all i'm joined by dave grimstead who is one of the founders of locate international it's a

14:29charity whose mission statement is to locate the missing and name the unidentified thanks for coming in to

14:36see us again dave so this is the case of andreas abateo and tell us about it what's happened so we're

14:43appealing today for information or sightings in relation to andreas he was born in july 1974

14:51in pass out in germany he came to to the uk to study at middlesex university in hendon north london

14:58and then he disappeared from the lives of his family at 30 years of age and for decades they've

15:05not heard anything yeah clearly they'll be desperate to know something won't they so tell us about the

15:09last time he was seen then so the last time he was seen we know that he traveled to to munich in

15:15germany where he met his friend where he left a suitcase in that suitcase was documentation clothes

15:22uh he had two books so the complete works of uh john lennon and bob marley so that kind of reflected

15:29his interest in music we know he was due to re to renew his passport in july uh 2004 and we know that

15:38that would have been important we know at that time 2004 we had the the olympics in athens and a few

15:44months before we just had the madrid bombings so there was a lot of monitoring but we've we've not

15:50found any trace of andreas yeah it's a real mystery isn't it so tell us a bit more about him

15:55then about andreas so andreas um grew up in in lagos he moved to to cyprus with his sister

16:01and his family and then he went to germany and then his sister came to to the united states to study

16:10andreas came to middlesex university in henlon where we believe he was doing computer studies

16:16so he would have been studying there between 1999 and 2004 we know he worked as a concierge at westway

16:24housing in 2002 and he always sought to work to fund his studies uh we know he stayed at riddell house

16:32which is uh where more mature postgraduates will will stay during their student student life yeah so

16:38he was 26 when he went missing and from what you're saying he was integrated into lots of different

16:43communities there's a particular friend you're looking for as well isn't there yeah so we know

16:49speaking to to his sister who has provided us with a lot of background in terms of andreas and is

16:56desperate to to hear from him as as are his family really but sarah is somebody she met when she came

17:02over to to london in 2002 they spent time together they were in that accommodation it it read our house we

17:10also know they had some accommodation in watford way somewhere near where the police training college

17:16is backing on to that we don't know if sarah is her real name because we believe she was from indonesia

17:22we think that she may have adopted the name of sarah which a lot of andreas's friends did to simplify

17:28things for them yeah we were just seeing a picture of the pair of them together there um there doesn't

17:33seem to be any reason for the disappearance either or any obvious reason no it's completely out of

17:39character nothing that we've not found any trace which is is unusual in itself there was no known

17:46experience of mental health and that communication just stopped it vanished around 2004 no communication

17:55with with the family after that point yeah so so who are you appealing to to dare then well we know

18:01that andreas was very social we've seen the photographs of him in the community we know he spent time at

18:07riddell house which is a social accommodation block for for students so you may be in that network that

18:14knew him at university you may not have seen him for for decades but you may have a piece of information

18:20which might help us and the family in the search for for andreas we know that he also had that

18:26accommodation in in hendon way we don't know exactly where but you may have rented out that accommodation

18:31or you may have lived next door and you remember andreas again you may not have seen him for decades

18:37but you may still have that piece of information so we need people to share the appeal that person

18:43you share it with may have that key piece of information we know he had a strong faith as well that he

18:49talked about his time in munich at the international baptist church and we know that there are those baptist churches

18:55there in hendon that he may have attended to and he was a manchester united supporter and that year

19:01they won the fa cup yeah 2004 you may have been part of the same group yes well let's hope that

19:06all jogs some memories thank you so much david for coming in to talk to us well take a good look and

19:13cast your mind back can you help make sense of what may have happened to andreas please get in touch with

19:19any information using the contact details below now over the summer you may have heard about the

19:25trial of a gang involved in nicking a gold toilet worth 4.8 million pounds from blenheim palace in

19:30oxford it really was an extraordinary heist we now know was conducted by a kingpin called james sheen

19:36and his co-conspirator michael jones yeah it's quite the story this one isn't it well during the court case

19:43the jury heard about the meticulous research that the gang had done to commit the heist it

19:49included jones visiting the palace twice taking photos of the golden loo as well as locks on the

19:55door and nearby windows as well the palace then hosted a party and a few hours after guests left

20:00the gang rammed two stolen cars through palace gates smashed a window wrenched the toilets from its

20:05fitting and rolled it out of the building they were inside the palace for less than three minutes

20:10and although police arrived within five minutes of the alarm sounding sadly the thieves had gone and you

20:16can see like in the footage they're just carrying the golden toilet seat literally that yeah well

20:21that toilet made of gold weighed 98 kilograms and it was insured for 4.8 million pounds this is big

20:31money we're talking about well the gang broke it up the toilet tried to sell the gold in two famous

20:36jewelry quarters one in hatton garden in london and the other in birmingham and the police tracked down

20:42sheen pretty quickly they found a photograph showing a carrier bag stuffed with cash with a message

20:47written 520 000 ha ha ha now he was finally charged after police confirmed his dna was on a sledgehammer

20:56which was recovered from inside the palace he was sentenced to four years and seven months in prison

21:02and jones to 27 months well good results but the story doesn't end there it turns out that sheen was no

21:07stranger to jail and straight after nicking that toilet before he was caught he carried on his

21:12brazen crime spree in fact it was so brazen we made a film about it this is what they did after stealing

21:19that gold loo every single one of us in that investigation knew that these were very very dangerous

21:26people that they were cynically committing crime in our communities

21:40and they had to be stopped

21:49thames valley is home to some of the most picturesque towns and villages in england

21:54but in 2019 the area was thrown into turmoil as a spate of atm attacks took place

22:03we were dealing with some sophisticated criminals who were using techniques and tactics which are

22:09generally used by organized crime groups the gang blew apart atms with explosive gases to get to the cache

22:19generally these offenses can be completed within three or four minutes by skilled criminals

22:29the atms that were attacked were in small convenience stores sometimes in residential areas

22:36one victim she grabbed her infant child and ran from her home thinking that

22:41that something significant like a bomb or a gas explosion had taken place

22:44you can't understate the risk to the community and the public when you're talking about igniting

22:50flammable gases with petrol

22:53extremely reckless and very dangerous

22:57they would also use stolen four by fours

23:00ram them into shops and drag out the cash machines with huge lorry straps

23:05but one attack in bletchingden didn't go according to plan

23:16traffic officer responding to that alarm call and calls from members of the public

23:20got sight of the vehicle that was in possession of the atm pursued it he lost sight of it for a short

23:27period of time but then was able to locate the vehicle abandoned in a service road close to a caravan park

23:33and within that he found the atm intact

23:39crucially also in the vehicle was a balaclava

23:44forensic work meant that that balaclava could be linked to the key offender in that organized crime

23:48group and that was really strong evidence for us

23:52jimmy sheen is a career criminal and we're talking about an individual that previously

23:56served a prison sentence for discharging a firearm in a public place and injuring people

24:00he has absolutely no compunction in committing any sort of crime it's quite intimidating and

24:08threatening to people that get in his way sheen is not someone that you would want to cross

24:14police intel began to link the atm attacks to this one group and with the heat on they

24:21switched to another type of crime stealing high-value agricultural and plant vehicles

24:27fundamentally a very expensive one on my area a place called cassington where they stole 400 000

24:36pounds worth of brand new tractors quite an audacious theft they drove all six of them out of the

24:42location in one night with evidence of offenses piling up against them the police needed to disrupt

24:49the gang's activity so they recalled jimmy sheen to prison for owning a vehicle which was a breach of

24:57his parole but that still left the other members of the group who were perfectly capable of continuing

25:02and committing serious inquisitive crime on their own and they chose to do so intelligence led the

25:09police to a stolen black mercedes at a caravan park near kidlington so on the 10th of june 2020

25:17a drone team was sent in to investigate what they showed me was quite remarkable not only had they

25:26located the vehicle but the activity around it over a period of sort of 10 minutes showed me

25:31men in black beanie hats balaclavas heavy jackets and gloves

25:36they'd captured what was quite clearly the group preparing to go out and commit another serious offense

25:42so for me then the pressure was on because we didn't know where they were going we had no control

25:49of that vehicle i then get another urgent phone call and i'm told that that vehicle has been on the

25:58wrong side of the road on a blind bend has been involved in a very serious road traffic collision

26:05key piece of evidence in the form of a mobile phone was thrown from the vehicle

26:09by the driver despite his injuries but thankfully a sharp-eyed firefighter spotted that and that

26:15became a real key piece of evidence one of the men in the criminal's car died following on from the

26:24crash gang member jimmy loveridge was arrested and charged for death by dangerous driving and sent to

26:31prison the police launched operation jackknife to bring the rest of the organized crime group to justice

26:39detectives conducted a search with our forensic teams of the mercedes and what was recovered from

26:45them was pretty startling so in there we had balaclavas we had chains we had a large machete

26:52clearly equipped and ready to commit a serious crime willing to use violence the fact that we knew this

26:58vehicle had been on this particular site and there was likely to be some key evidence that we needed to

27:04recover as soon as possible so we were able then to obtain uh two search warrants on a caravan site

27:10near kidlington they discovered 18 500 pounds in cash homemade balaclavas and stolen vehicles but it

27:21was at the back of the site that yielded crucial evidence for the police gas cylinders along with that

27:29were things like disc cutters and other stolen tools which we also knew were hallmarks of the earlier atm

27:35offending we recovered critical evidence in the form of a number of mobile phones detective inspector

27:43lorna briggs led the team analyzing the phone data so we're looking at lots of different things in terms

27:50of the phones photos taken from them to try and identify who they belong to contacts in there

27:57voicemails any messages that have been sent phone calls but also when the phone's off that can tell

28:04us quite a lot can we match that up to offending when does it come back on again is that after the

28:09offending and that very much formed the focus of this investigation in relation to phone work

28:15so what we had to do is turn that intelligence into evidence

28:21the phone that was recovered from the crash belonged to jimmy loveridge

28:25on it was a video of him showcasing the six stolen tractors all identical same machines all 2020 brand

28:36new there's also suggestion on the videos that they are actually um stealing to order man dying for one

28:44it's a baler hey baler obviously when you're out getting the machines there's one on there just take it

28:49you know quite shocking and quite brazen hence the reason why jimmy loveridge was keen to get rid of

28:59that phone from the vehicle while the phones were being analyzed the police found searches and messages

29:05between jimmy sheen and his partner about valuable trophies at the newmarket racecourse museum ring me we

29:13need to go and pick the motor up before this other thing he's got one already so we need to shoot up

29:17and get it straight away our gang on a whim in between doing atm thefts and high value agricultural

29:23vehicles had driven to newmarket one night broken into that newmarket racecourse museum and stolen

29:28trophies to the value of 380 000 pounds during their audacious crime sprees this gang stole over one

29:36million pounds worth of agricultural machinery and caused close to one million pounds worth of damage

29:43in the atm attacks in april 2021 six men shane harris paul smith jimmy loveridge jimmy sheen david riley

29:53and frenny green were arrested and charged with multiple offenses i think probably one of the

30:00highlights of the investigation for the investigating dcs is is doing the interviews and putting all the

30:05offending to them when we went to prison particularly to arrest jimmy sheen and we stood for quite some

30:11time going through the list of offenses that he was being arrested for and you can you can see the shock

30:15in his face quite a satisfying moment for the team there are over a million pages of evidence documents and

30:25material subject to some form of scrutiny in this investigation so it was it was a huge investigation

30:30the gang were all found guilty and collectively sentenced to a total of 74 years in prison

30:40operation i've become a labor of love for this team it ran for two years i think we all recognized that

30:46never again in our careers will we investigate anything which has got this sort of breadth and this

30:52level of seriousness now you might have seen this in the news there is a growing number of criminals

31:01convicted of crimes who are refusing to go to the sentence hearing now understandably their victims

31:07and families are outraged by this and one family who experienced this and are campaigning tirelessly to

31:14change the law is cheryl corbel and antonia elverson now cheryl's nine-year-old daughter olivia pratt

31:21corbel was killed by a gunman in liverpool in 2022 and thank you so much for coming in to talk about this

31:28it's such an important work you're doing i see you've got olivia on your your hoodies there because

31:33obviously she's at the center of all of this and and her murder really thrust you into the limelight

31:40into a legal system you probably knew nothing about i mean how have you called cheryl yeah it certainly

31:47did we were thrown into a world that we knew nothing about um the court process it was it was um it wasn't

31:58victim centered it was all about you know the perpetrator um so i did the campaign it was you know at some

32:08some points along the the court process the the victims they need to be heard yeah and that's what

32:15you want to change that's exactly what you want to do isn't it and you mentioned the court process

32:18there you you have to sit through this court process it's many weeks hearing the most difficult

32:23details that you had to sit through but then you had the chance to write a victim impact statement about

32:29how this whole situation has has affected you and to know that the person responsible didn't even turn

32:35up to hear that statement how did that make you feel devastating because it wasn't an easy thing

32:40to do um doing an impact statement it's not something that can be done within five minutes it took

32:47um weeks you know over a couple of months um we were at it virtually every day um

32:56um no it's not nice and then to find out that he's he's not even coming up no a coward yes and this

33:06is what you want to change antonia isn't it tell us about that yeah i think um i'll say

33:13cheryl was um invited to a summit at radio city um in liverpool and and obviously um it sort of began from

33:22there there was a petition set up and um cheryl came home and we we were discussing like you know

33:29how how is this allowed to happen um and we just family friends we got together and we went out

33:38campaigning um obviously liverpool first you know we've had so much support from from liverpool and

33:44obviously wider cities but um we got people signed the petition and i say i think within the first

33:51first week we'd hit about 10 000 signatures and wow just sort of snowballed yeah it snowballed very

33:58very quickly and so many people were behind us and when you do your research it goes back a long long

34:03time and just yeah shouldn't happen and and that got you in front of the prime minister at the time

34:09rishi sunak as well didn't it yeah what was that like um yeah i think we were a bit stunned because

34:17obviously we just got this call to say um prime minister wants to meet you's um and yeah so when

34:23we went we were we were sort of ready um for sort of disagreements and whatnot and he just said we're

34:29going to change it but obviously things happen and we're sort of still where we are now so he's so

34:35so close but it's brilliant it is it is we've um we've done obviously house of commons has done

34:43the next stage is the house of lords and this is the bill going through so it has to the way it

34:48works is it goes through different parts of the political system so it's done the commons it's in

34:52the lords and and what do you want the bill to do then what do you want it to change what powers will

34:57it give a judge um obviously the first one was always about adding an additional two years to um

35:04convict a sentence and and that's fine when you're looking at someone who's looking at only a number of

35:09years but when you cases like ours and and other high profile cases two years on a 42 year sentence

35:17is is neither here or there so we've campaigned and we've done a lot of work back and forth with

35:22with the relevant people of of changing them things and we've you know that there's other things that

35:29can be revoked now and that can include visitation rights um you know gym memberships all different

35:36so the actual day-to-day life of the prisoner can actually be impacted now yeah yeah in these

35:42ways so losing privileges that's that's strong it is that is really strong isn't it it is losing

35:48visits as well campaigning for and and what do you shall what difference would this have made to you

35:54if this you know law change had been there then if you know if they were kind of made to to face the

36:00victim statement and being sentencing um as i've been able to address them i mean doing an impact

36:08statement it's one one thing coming from a court official it's coming from a victim or victims

36:16families it resonates a bit bit deeper um

36:20um yeah yeah for olivia you're going to be helping so many other families so many and that's the main

36:29thing we don't want other families to go through the same thing yeah really are yeah well thank you so

36:34so much for coming in and talking to us today it's just a remarkable achievement and to to steer the law

36:41in the way that you you are yeah thank you for coming in to talk about it thank you well now to another

36:47woman channeling her painful lived experiences into something more positive and hopeful

36:56my name is alia ali i am the founder and ceo of the dadless daughters project

37:02we support girls between the age of 11 up to 25 who have been affected by family breakdown

37:06abuse or adversity we provide a one-to-one trauma-informed mentoring service

37:12we also have therapeutic girl group spaces educational workshops and then we deliver trauma-informed

37:20training

37:22we've gone on to support 350 girls across the uk we've trained over 1 000 professionals and yeah

37:30we're continuing to grow

37:31i grew up on owlsbury estate southeast london crime culture was really embedded in our environment

37:43and my dad he was absent throughout most of my childhood after the family life really broke down

37:51i was really angry it just felt like there was so much loss so much grief and i didn't know how

37:56to process that started up being arrested and ended up in the care system

38:05when you go into care your practical needs are not met you know you might want a pair of trainers

38:09you might want a new t-shirt you might even want a new bra you know because you're growing you're

38:13developing and you'd have to call your social worker wait for six to eight weeks for a panel to

38:19approve a 20-pound bra and so that whole process added to the frustration that i already had about my life

38:28i was institutionalized as kids who grew up in care are

38:33before i know it and then being introduced to different forms of crime as a way to make money to

38:40be able to meet my own kind of practical needs

38:42you know i'd formed these relationships with the gangs in the estate they introduced me to a lifestyle

38:51of drug dealing i was later arrested for possession of intense supply class a drugs

38:58and i received a four-year custodial sentence

39:03the day that i went into prison was finally the day that i felt safe

39:07i could actually start to connect the dots and figure out where things went wrong

39:13and how i was going to do something positive about it

39:18there was a lot of young women in the prison and the way that they were harming themselves

39:23made me think about different ways that me and the girls that i grew up with were i guess

39:29self-destructive and i just started asking them a lot more questions about their lives

39:34that was i guess the beginning of daddyless daughters because the one thing that we all

39:37had in common was we either didn't have fathers present we did have fathers who were present in

39:43our house but you know wasn't emotionally available or our fathers were actually perpetrators

39:50it also made me consider what could i do about it

39:56by the time i came out of prison i think i was turning about 21.

40:02i then started you know speaking online about all of these dots that i'd connected

40:07you know holding a few services and institutions accountable as well for the way that they were

40:13failing girls and young women in particular off the back of that i then developed my own training

40:19materials and started working with social workers police officers youth offending officers probation

40:24officers trying to influence them to work from a trauma-informed perspective

40:30and then i incorporated daddyless daughters about five years ago now

40:36i met alia after she had been released from prison and i saw daddyless daughters come from her desire

40:43to rather than be upset about what wasn't being done for young girls but she was actually going to make

40:49something happen and they spend time and energy and passion listening to young women and helping them to

40:56realize that they are more than the circumstances which they find themselves in the trauma-informed

41:01mentoring is we receive referrals from anybody who's kind of working with a young woman who they

41:06think is either experiencing complex trauma who's being groomed and exploited or who is displaying i guess

41:14the previous um signs of being at risk of all of those things i manage children's homes done that for close to like 10 years

41:24i came across the interview where you were talking about daddyless daughters i got curious what can you guys

41:32that Daddiless Daughters do and it was just like that partnership and I think

41:35it's important that everyone is on the same page and everyone's fighting for

41:39the same outcome. We sign our young women a outreach mentor to work with. It's about

41:47providing a platform for those stories to exist and giving young women an

41:53opportunity for them to advocate for themselves. I think what Daddiless

42:00Daughters provides is a space where you're going to be understood. You're

42:04speaking to someone that has experienced similar things. If these organisations,

42:10communities are not in place it will start to like affect young women whether

42:15it's like reoffending, whether it's always getting into with toxic partners, being

42:21sexually abused. Organisations can spread awareness to stop the cycle because

42:27these kids, these girls need, they need spaces.

42:33It just affirms the mission that I'm on. It just gives me a sense of pride about what it is that I'm

42:40building and a surety that, you know, there is a need for it. Being a Daddiless

42:47Daughter should be a global conversation. It shows up differently in different

42:53communities and different cultures and not only do I think I want us to kind of scale

42:58nationally, I do hope that we can scale globally.

43:03What incredible work they're doing. Good news, we've had loads of calls so far today so thank you so much for those. Remember you can watch all of the appeals from last week's shows on the iPlayer and you can also share them by going to our website or Facebook page as well. Yeah, we've already had one arrest so do keep watching and helping us.

43:22To get some more details of organisations that can provide support with some of the issues raised today are available at bbc.co.uk

43:29slash action line. Tomorrow, do you know how vulnerable adult Julius Materas ended up being left for dead in Eccles, Manchester?

43:38He was a kind, quiet soul. He was taken advantage of by others and this may be what has led to his death.

43:47Detectives need your help to uncover the truth about his murder.

43:52Yes, we'll see you tomorrow, 10.45. Bye bye.