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00:00Music
00:18There you go, tap out mate, you don't need a receipt do you?
00:20Good lad, good.
00:22Oh, come on!
00:24We're gonna turn this bad boy up in for you, eh?
00:27Oh, there we go.
00:28Oh, it's Allie!
00:30Come on!
00:32It takes you back, doesn't it now?
00:56Here you go darling.
00:57Don't ride
00:59Cheers!
01:04Hello?
01:05Sorry.
01:06Alfie!
01:07Turn that down for us.
01:08You're all right, all right.
01:09Sorry.
01:10What was...
01:11What has he done?
01:15I hate him!
01:16I hate him so much!
01:17What's happening?
01:18What is it?
01:19What's happened darling?
01:20I don't want to go back there.
01:21Back to school.
01:22Not after what he's done.
01:23Amy.
01:24Amy.
01:25Look at me.
01:26Okay?
01:27Right.
01:28Just tell me.
01:29Tell me what's happened.
01:30He...
01:31He hit me.
01:32Ross.
01:33I've just had a message from the Scot...
01:34Hang on.
01:35Sorry.
01:36What are you saying?
01:37A safeguarding issue?
01:38An investigation?
01:39Hang on.
01:40What are you talking about?
01:41What?
01:42It sounds like you're blaming him.
01:43Joel.
01:44Again.
01:45You didn't hit her though.
01:46I literally saw it happen.
01:47It was a shove.
01:48What was it?
01:49Okay.
01:50A shove.
01:51A hit.
01:52What is the difference?
01:53It's the same as whacking someone in the face.
01:54I'll whack you in the face in a sec.
01:56All my days when it was just a joke about it.
01:57What was just a joke?
01:58What the hell is going on?
01:59They showed a dirty video on a screen in assembly.
02:02And I don't find that very funny.
02:03Why was everyone laughing?
02:04It wasn't everyone though was it?
02:05It was just the dumb boys like you.
02:06I didn't have nothing to do with it and that's why I've told you all this.
02:29But you were there.
02:30You were laughing.
02:31Yeah but it's just messing with the teachers, innit?
02:33Like she left the room so they had the bluetooth on their laptop.
02:35laptop. It could have been literally anything playing on that screen. Yeah, but it weren't
02:38anything, was it? My parents' group chat's going nuts. And I did tell them to turn it
02:42off. So what? A big strong boy like you on your 17th birthday, you couldn't handle a
02:48couple of younger kids? But why is it my job to have to step in? Because you should have
02:51been thinking about Amy. How this made her feel. Yeah, but I wasn't even there when he
02:55hit her. It was after school. I'm gonna kill him. Okay, this isn't gonna help. No. Listen,
03:02that is assault and battery, alright? I'm gonna report this right now. Please stop. Look,
03:06he needs to be in a young offenders unit. You're not helping. Stop it. Listen to her. You're
03:11gonna make it worse. And I don't want him getting away with this, alright? I'm not saying what
03:15he did was right, but he did kind of start it. Joel started it by putting that gross stuff
03:20up. And then you followed him out of school and went for it. I was upset. It don't matter
03:24who started it. I didn't want him getting away with it. Hang on, did you grab him? Did you
03:29meet him? I'm not naive, alright? I've seen these type of videos before. Have you? People
03:37show it round school. Even if you don't want to see it, it just happens. But when it was
03:44playing on that screen, he was looking at me the whole time. There was something in his
03:53eyes, something disgusting. I don't know. It just made me feel horrible. Alright, look, I ain't having this
03:59I'm gonna... Jack! No, no, no. I'm gonna speak to him, alright? I'm gonna find Ross and we're gonna sort this out.
04:05Okay, darling, but I've got Raymond and she needs your support right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:09Okay, alright, alright. Well, just go gently, yeah? Yeah, I'm gonna go gently. Right. Dad, no!
04:17I've seen Amy and her mates laughing their heads off at videos like that. She ain't that bothered.
04:22She's wanting an excuse to go off on some feminist rhymes. Oh, we're gonna be in so much trouble. I just clicked the first video I saw. It wasn't even that extreme. And it
04:29don't give her the right to attack me. Yeah, I know, but she's... Look, if that was a guy who'd done that, who'd be in the wrong?
04:35You don't get special treatment for being a girl. Like, equal rights, equal fights, innit?
04:41Yeah. Yeah, let's go.
04:47Oh, it's Jack. Look, don't answer her. I want to talk to Joel first.
04:53What? So he can spin you a pack of lies and excuses like he always does?
04:56Well, the school haven't exactly told us what's happened yet, have they?
04:59Yeah, well, look at his track record. It's not great.
05:01No, she's right. We keep making excuses for him. It's just getting worse.
05:04We saw what he was like last night. I knew something like this was going to happen.
05:06Okay, okay.
05:07And did you talk to him? No. And now look.
05:10Oh, is he in there, is he? Joel. He needs a lesson in respect.
05:14I told you not to kick off. Yeah, and I'll parent me own kid, thanks.
05:17Oh, yeah, because you're doing a great job so far.
05:19Oh, I'm sorry. Who asked you?
05:21We want to know what you're going to do about your depraved son, Joel.
05:23Well, you want to look after your own ones?
05:25Oh, my kids are just fine, thanks.
05:27Because I've been talking to them about sex for years.
05:29Sex, pornography, consent, boundaries,
05:32and that's why they ain't running around doing horrible stuff like Joel.
05:35Right, and what's he supposed to have done?
05:37He's hacked a laptop and shown some dirty video assembly.
05:40Oh. Is that all?
05:42Is that all? What, like that's okay?
05:45That's sweet, I hope he'll be home soon.
05:48I want to talk to him now.
05:49Do you know what, in that case,
05:50let it all get deep and get out we ran, shall I?
05:52Play with Raymond, let them watch Busty Babes 3 together.
05:55Do you hear this?
05:57Do you know what Joel and Tommy are looking at on their phones?
06:00Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Jack.
06:01I mean, listen, a bit of nudity didn't hurt anybody back in the day, you know.
06:05We used to look at our mum's catalogue.
06:07They're 15, 16, they're bound to be curious, ain't they?
06:10I know it's not Tommy's finest hour, but they've got to get the facts, ain't they?
06:13Schools are just jumpy nowadays.
06:14No, no, no, no, no, don't be making excuses.
06:16No, don't get involved.
06:17No, Denster told me everything.
06:18It takes a twist in mind to do something like that.
06:20Kim, Kim, sweetheart, listen, I've always no sicker, okay?
06:23All this he said, she said thing going on.
06:26Yeah, and she said that their son attacked her.
06:29Well, school never said that.
06:30Did he hit you?
06:32You okay?
06:33No, she ain't.
06:35Joel wouldn't hit a girl, right?
06:38Right, and the school said that it was a welfare issue over some adult content.
06:42Yeah, but that was in school, he attacked her out the school gates.
06:45Look, he was there, he can tell you.
06:47Don't drag him into it, he's just done his way out of college.
06:50Yeah, but he saw what happened.
06:51But Tommy didn't hit anyone, did he?
06:53No, but that lot was standing there, weren't they, egging him on.
06:56He pushed her and she nearly flew across the road.
06:58Is that what happened?
06:59To be honest, it looked like self-defence to me.
07:03What?
07:04We ain't hitting foot.
07:06Look, I'm not making excuses, but if you go wading in with someone like that,
07:11you've got to expect some sort of comeback.
07:13Comebacks?
07:14Oh, there'll be some comebacks, don't you worry about that,
07:16because your kids need locking up.
07:18Your kids?
07:19It worked, Tommy.
07:21Really?
07:22If that's the case, where is he?
07:23If they're innocent, where are they?
07:27You need to go and find him.
07:28Yeah, listen, I'll go with him, Ross.
07:31See you later.
07:32Look, I'm not saying this is right, but at the end of the day,
07:34they are just kids, all right?
07:36They flash a naughty video and people laugh.
07:38It's what they do sometimes.
07:39Listen, this is not normal.
07:41I've just come from the school, we've had a huge meeting about it.
07:44It's a hell of a lot more than just a naughty video.
07:55Females watch this stuff.
07:57They make it.
07:58They take money from it.
07:59Men's money.
08:00But if we watch it, what are the problem?
08:03Are you telling me that's right?
08:05It's not.
08:06They're trying to make us feel like we've got to be sorry for being a man.
08:12That sucks.
08:13He's just so angry all the time.
08:17Yeah, I know, mate.
08:18But them Drake and Sagan videos don't help, do they?
08:20Well, I should have just tried harder to stamp it out.
08:22Mm-hmm.
08:23But can it change you that much just watching stuff online?
08:25Or is there actually something wrong with his head?
08:27OK, right.
08:28So, when I was growing up, right, I was told that West Ham were the greatest football team the
08:32world has ever seen.
08:33Because I was told that by a lot of blokes that I looked up to, you know, and I believed
08:37them.
08:38And, you know, yes they are.
08:39So, what, your brain must end up being an happy hammer?
08:41We'll always be happy hammers, OK?
08:42But see, the thing is now, Ross, kids these days, they're just discovering the world,
08:45right?
08:46Everything they see and hear around them.
08:48Now, whoever shouts the loudest is going to speak to them, and they're going to believe
08:51it, mate.
08:52We're stronger, smarter, tougher than women.
08:54That's just a fact.
08:55And people are scared of it.
08:57They don't want us to be a success.
08:59They don't want us to have a voice.
09:02Women's well out of control.
09:04Yeah, and I didn't stand for it.
09:06I showed her I was boss, and she couldn't handle it.
09:08It's double standards everywhere you look, mate.
09:10Yeah, double standards.
09:12I have laid down the law time and time again, and I've tried to teach him right from wrong,
09:17but I've never had these kind of conversations with my old man.
09:20And if I'm honest, I really don't know what to say with you.
09:24Ross, you know what kids are like nowadays, OK?
09:26You know, if you're a nice, gentle, kind kid, then, you know, they make fun of you.
09:31And if you're tough, then they call you a misogynist.
09:35Why can't you just tell us exactly what happened?
09:38I wasn't in the room.
09:40The headteacher's going to talk to all of you tomorrow.
09:43This has got Joel written all over it.
09:45Well, you can bet your life that Tommy was there backing him up.
09:48Look, how come the teacher let something like this happen?
09:52Well, she's new in the job and she's young.
09:55You give kids an inch and they'll take a mile.
09:58Smutty videos for the whole world to see.
10:01Well, I'm glad Lexi weren't there. Don't need her near all this, do we?
10:04Yeah, that's not a good conversation swerve for a couple of years.
10:06No, you should talk to her about this.
10:08About what she's been watching on her phone, about what she might have seen by accident.
10:11Well, I mean, she is only 30.
10:13Yes, and she may be well ahead of you already.
10:16Oh, no, not Lexi. She's an angel.
10:18Well, half the time they don't have a choice.
10:20Just pops up on a group chat.
10:22So, how come your teachers ain't stamping it out, then?
10:25Well, we do what we can, Billy, but our job is to teach your kids, not police their phones.
10:30Come on, then. What did they see?
10:32Honestly, it's not a laughing matter.
10:35Well, if it's just two people having sex.
10:37Er...
10:40Right, well, this goes way beyond anything I've ever dealt with at school.
10:45The headteachers contacted the police.
10:48The kids were exposed to an extreme and explicit video that was humiliating and incredibly degrading.
10:57Right. I wish I'd never asked.
10:59Well, it just goes to show what kind of websites they're going on.
11:02Bet they're the same ones Ricky's looking at.
11:04No, no, not him. No way.
11:05No, he's a lovely boy.
11:06Bet he got a girl pregnant when he was how old?
11:08And how's that related?
11:09How's it not?
11:10Oh, you're piping up, are you?
11:12What, you think your will's a saint, do you?
11:14Oh, what, are you going to start having a go at my boy?
11:16No, I'm just saying.
11:17Look, for the love of God, will you stop?
11:19Just stop talking about your kids and start talking to them.
11:26Listen, yeah.
11:28Your mum and dad are going to come at you with all this feminist stuff.
11:33I need you to be my guy.
11:36You've got to back me up.
11:38Right.
11:39Amy attacked me.
11:41And I defended myself.
11:42Simple as that.
11:45Don't lose your nerve.
11:47And don't let them win.
11:54Oi!
11:55Home!
11:56Now!
12:02Roman's okay?
12:04Thanks for staying with him, darling.
12:08It's all right.
12:19Could I get in trouble if they say I started it?
12:23Look, don't worry about any of that.
12:26What they did.
12:29That video.
12:31I sat in line.
12:33I don't know why it freaked me out so much.
12:36The things that were playing on that screen.
12:38What was happening to that woman.
12:42Because of the way he was looking at me.
12:44It kind of made me feel like...
12:47he was doing it to me.
12:48Oh, darling.
12:52I sort of froze in that moment.
12:55I had this sick feeling.
12:59Scared but angry.
13:00Listen.
13:04You stood up against him.
13:09Made people realise that it is not okay.
13:14Okay.
13:23Look, I can't tell you not to go online looking at things.
13:26Because I know you're going to be curious.
13:27Oh, Dad.
13:28This is so awkward.
13:29I'm just saying.
13:31What you end up watching on there,
13:33it could rot your brain.
13:35It ain't like that in the real world.
13:36Yes.
13:37I know, all right?
13:38It was just a laugh.
13:39If you make a big thing out of it, you look like a neek.
13:42What?
13:44Can I go now?
13:46Morning.
13:53Neek.
13:54Did you learn nothing from our chat on all this stuff?
14:01I didn't do anything wrong.
14:02So you're not looking at filthy websites again?
14:04Oh, I've had enough of all of this.
14:06So what if I am?
14:07You've probably looked at it.
14:08Oi, oi.
14:09Don't you be rude to your mum, Tommy, all right?
14:12Even if I did?
14:13I'm an adult and you're a child.
14:17That's funny to you, is it?
14:19I told you, this stuff messes with your head.
14:22We spoke about being respectful to women,
14:24not watching these hateful, violent videos.
14:26Joel's all right.
14:28I know.
14:30You're not allowed to shame females these days.
14:32No, that's sexist.
14:34Even the ones who are making these videos
14:35and posting it online.
14:36But it's all right to shame the lads who are watching it.
14:39That's all right, is it?
14:40Don't tell me.
14:41That's Drake Zagan's latest post.
14:42Oh, what if it is?
14:44You lot, you talk so much rubbish.
14:46And now I see it for what it is.
14:49One massive double standard.
14:51And I've had enough.
14:53There is no double standard.
14:55It's just a single standard.
14:57All right?
14:58You treat everyone, male and female,
14:59like they're a decent human being.
15:00I mean, how many more times have I got to say it?
15:02Have you heard yourself?
15:03You need to start listening to it.
15:04I'm not talking to you.
15:05Mike!
15:06Did you treat mum like a decent human being?
15:08Is that why she left you for someone else?
15:10Watch your mouth.
15:11No.
15:12She starts sleeping with some other bloke,
15:13then gets married, right?
15:14Splashes it all over social media,
15:16making you look like some sort of cuck.
15:19You don't even know what you're saying.
15:21She went off for the real man, a proper man.
15:23I'm going to throttle him.
15:24No, it's perfect.
15:25Mike, you wouldn't know what a real man is.
15:27You've got no money, no ambition, no sort of life.
15:30You haven't even had a girlfriend in your heads.
15:32You don't know what life is.
15:34And everyone around here thinks you're a freak.
15:36That's enough.
15:37A bro is in his forties,
15:38dossing at his girlfriend's sister's house,
15:40talking to me like he's the big man.
15:42And you're a little kid with mummy issues.
15:44No one respects you.
15:45No one, you know that.
15:46Your wife leaves you,
15:47and now you're stuck with some low-value female like her.
15:50No, what are you doing?
15:52Shut your mouth.
16:02You need to leave before you do something you regret.
16:09Ross.
16:14Go.
16:15Yeah.
16:18Yeah, walk away.
16:20Walk away.
16:21Good boy.
16:23Good boy.
16:28Tommy, we've been far too soft on you, okay?
16:30So from now on you won't be seeing Joel again.
16:32You're not having your phone either.
16:34Well, what's that going to change?
16:36The whole world's on about one move for them, one move for us.
16:39What?
16:40For them?
16:41For women?
16:42Amy's been getting on Joel's case for ages.
16:45Getting in his face, calling him an incel.
16:48No one's told her to stop, have they?
16:52And like today at school,
16:53she started kicking off at him before he even put that stuff on the screen.
16:56Kicking off about what?
16:57Calling him a sexist pig, a misogynist and all that.
17:00Amy did.
17:01Yeah, before he showed that video, before any of that,
17:03and no one stopped Amy, did they?
17:05Okay, well, she must have had her reasons.
17:07All he'd done was told Mr. Sh.
17:09That was it, a stupid joke, and Amy lost it.
17:11Shhh.
17:12What does that even mean?
17:13Shhh.
17:14The boys literally do it all the time at school.
17:15And they wouldn't do it to male teachers.
17:16Like, they just wouldn't.
17:17Well, when we was at school, we used to wind up with teachers saying,
17:18look, I didn't really see any reason for them to kick off.
17:20Are you stupid?
17:21Like, the woman was literally in tears.
17:22I'm not saying shush.
17:23I'm not saying shush.
17:24People are too offended these days.
17:25I mean, how is that sexist?
17:26It just eats dad, trust me.
17:27No, no, it's out of order.
17:28It's cheeky, but is it sexist?
17:29Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.
17:30If someone did that to me, I'd recommend a new one.
17:31But it has all gone a little bit woke.
17:32Yeah, exactly.
17:33It's just all gone.
17:34It's not a way to get the baby.
17:35I mean, we've gone.
17:36If someone's going to get into school, we used to wind up with teachers saying, look,
17:39you didn't really see any reason for them to kick off.
17:41Are you stupid?
17:42Like, the woman was literally in tears.
17:43I'm not saying shush.
17:44People are too offended these days.
17:45I mean, how is that sexist?
17:46It just eats dad, trust me.
17:47No, no, it's out of order.
17:48It's cheeky, but is it sexist?
17:49Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.
17:50If someone did that to me, I'd recommend a new one.
17:51But it has all gone a little bit woke.
17:52Is it sexist?
17:53Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.
17:54If someone did that to me, I'd recommend a new one.
17:56But it has all gone a little bit woke.
18:00Yeah, exactly.
18:02I don't know what I can and what I can't say anymore.
18:04Yeah, I'm all for equality.
18:05I mean, the day I have to pay for a drink at a bar
18:08is the day I join a nun.
18:11Well, I don't mind the old walk with some man again.
18:13I shall remember that next time you're walking through the market.
18:16Gosh, Billy, not from dirty old men like you.
18:18You know, he literally did this to her, OK?
18:20Like, shh.
18:23How is that not a man trying to silence a woman?
18:25Like, I just don't get it.
18:27What don't you understand?
18:28All right.
18:30All right.
18:33Strong, independent woman.
18:36I mean, they say it like it's a good thing,
18:38like they're empowered.
18:41But strong men are called aggressive and dangerous.
18:45They are a problem in society.
18:47Why can a woman be strong but a man can't?
18:50It don't make no sense.
18:53Oh.
18:54So I'm a low-value female, am I?
19:00Low value?
19:02What's that even mean to you?
19:05What does it mean?
19:07I don't know.
19:08You're old, boring, barren, let yourself go.
19:14Is that enough of a list?
19:16Why do you hate women so much?
19:19Oh, I don't hate women.
19:21I hate the system that feminists use to undermine us.
19:25Who's undermining you?
19:27Honestly, love, just save it, yeah.
19:29Does that make you feel big, does it?
19:33Calling me love.
19:36Does it make you feel small?
19:38Yeah, it does.
19:40And I've heard all that and way worse from bigger men than you.
19:43Poor you.
19:44You have no idea what it's like to be a woman.
19:47Oh, okay.
19:48You're just a child.
19:52What?
19:56Is that where all this comes from, is it?
19:59It's an insecurity.
20:02Deep down, you're worried the whole world can see it.
20:05No, I...
20:05That's why you get off showing those repulsive videos to people.
20:08Why you like making your teachers cry.
20:10Why you enjoy humiliating your dad.
20:12Shut up!
20:13All right, just shut up!
20:16You never, ever hit a woman.
20:20Well, that's sexist.
20:20No, it ain't.
20:21Why not?
20:22Because men are stronger than women and it should never happen, okay?
20:25So, if the woman's bigger than me, I can hit her?
20:28No, Tom, listen to me.
20:29You don't hit anyone.
20:30How many men did she hit in her life?
20:32That's different.
20:33Fucking whacked him and all.
20:35Yeah?
20:36Slap's just a slap.
20:38So how Stacey hit Joel, that's all right.
20:40You don't want anything to do with the sort of bloke that hits a woman.
20:43Trust me.
20:46It's that about me, because I hit you.
20:47Is that what you're saying?
20:49No.
20:50You can go around hitting whoever you want because you're a woman.
20:53People will laugh and think you're all that.
20:55But when I hit you, I was dragged off by social services.
20:59That's some sort of psycho and wasn't allowed to live in the same flat as you.
21:02That ain't fair.
21:03I know.
21:04You were just confused at the time.
21:05You didn't know any better.
21:06Well, I know better now.
21:07And I see how it is.
21:10You're a hypocrite.
21:11All right.
21:13I've slapped a few blokes and I ain't proud of it.
21:17And I'll think twice before I do it again.
21:19When you do do it again, you'll get away with it because you're a woman and I'm sick of it.
21:23Oh, just calm down.
21:24No.
21:25No.
21:26Because I'm allowed to think that men are stronger than women, smarter than women, better
21:29than women.
21:30Because we are.
21:31I want to hit the gym.
21:33I want a big success.
21:34I want a ton of goals.
21:35Because that's what being a man is.
21:36No, no.
21:37You're just a kid, Tommy.
21:38And there are different ways to being a man.
21:40What?
21:41Like you?
21:42No.
21:43No, I don't want to wear flowery shirts or talk about my feelings.
21:45Oi, oi.
21:46You listen to me.
21:47I'm not ashamed of who I am, all right?
21:48Whatever.
21:49Tommy, darling.
21:50You can be as manly as you want, go to the gym, be as tough as you want.
21:55That doesn't mean you go around intimidating women and showing them no respect.
21:59No.
22:00Because you're telling me what I think is wrong and it's not.
22:02It's just me.
22:03No.
22:04No.
22:05It's you.
22:06It's Joel and all the stuff you're watching online.
22:08Well, all that stuff makes more sense than any of you two right now.
22:21Shutting us down.
22:22That's what you do.
22:23Oh, please.
22:24All of you are feminists.
22:25Oh, you know what?
22:26You can take your toxic masculinity and go and live with your mum.
22:30I'm done with you.
22:31Toxic?
22:32Like a poison?
22:33Like something we need to get rid of?
22:34Yes.
22:35Do you know how that feels?
22:36Knowing that everyone hates you just for being yourself?
22:38Oh, let me think, Joel.
22:39As a woman, have I ever experienced prejudice?
22:41Yes, I think I have.
22:43Now, you can't say anything about anyone these days unless they're a man, of course.
22:47Oh, my God.
22:48That is just not true.
22:49And why does any of that mean you've got to hate women?
22:52I don't.
22:53I hate women like you.
22:55And what about that teacher?
22:58Did you hate her too?
23:00Because she ran out of your classroom crying?
23:02Hey, she needs to toughen up.
23:03Everyone needs to toughen up.
23:04It is all a power trip and you know it.
23:07You get off making women feel small.
23:11That's why you told me I needed a good slap.
23:13That's not wrong.
23:15It's not disgusting.
23:17It's just men being men.
23:19And anyone who's got a problem with that is stupid feminist or a man hating witch.
23:25And they need to get over it.
23:27Yeah, you do.
23:28Do you know how pathetic that is?
23:32How weak that makes ya?
23:36You are just a scared little boy who throws a tantrum when he don't get his own way.
23:42No, I'm not.
23:43And it don't matter what you hear on your stupid little videos, what they're telling you.
23:47Because my eyes are open.
23:51And I can see the truth.
23:55You will never be a real man because you don't even know what it means.
23:59Oh, shut your face.
24:00You're a pathetic little beater male.
24:03Silly little twerp.
24:06And you should feel embarrassed.
24:08You should feel humiliated because I am so much stronger than you.
24:13You're the problem.
24:18People like you.
24:20Women like you.
24:22And you don't ever speak to me like that.
24:25You hear me?
24:27No woman disrespects me.
24:29No woman.
24:31Look at you.
24:36You're weak.
24:39You're pathetic.
24:42Who's stronger now, eh?
24:47It was only a couple of years ago.
24:52It was just a normal kid kicking a football about the place.
24:55But now...
24:58When he hit me, do you reckon that was the start of all this?
25:02Cat, I don't know, darling.
25:04Well, there's one thing I do know, right?
25:07This ain't boys will be boys.
25:09I see it tonight. It's gone way beyond that.
25:12I'll tell you one thing, though.
25:13I never, ever want to have that conversation again.
25:16We have to.
25:18We have a conversation tomorrow, the next day and the next day.
25:20A hundred little conversations until we get all this stuff out of his head.
25:24Yeah, but I don't have all the answers.
25:26What do you think I do?
25:28Okay, so what are we supposed to do, then?
25:30Just start talking.
25:49Let's go.
25:50We'll be able to get all this stuff out.
25:57Look at that.
25:58I'm going to try to put too often.
26:00Ah, I'm going to end it.
26:01I'm going to try a little bit slower.
26:03I'm going to put it on my first line.
26:07Okay.
26:10Okay, so...
26:12I have to spend some time eating a little bit.
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