House Hunters International Season 204 Episode 9

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00:00Oh my god, not like anything you'd see in Phoenix.

00:04After 25 years in America, Salvatore's mother's dying wish was for him to return to his native Italy.

00:11Let's make Rita proud.

00:12So he and his partner David are leaving everything in Phoenix to start an agroturismo business in the Italian countryside.

00:19We're taking this huge chance.

00:21Maybe we can get into the olive oil business.

00:24But you don't know anything about olive oil.

00:27Don't be so negative.

00:28I'm just being realistic.

00:29Salvatore and I are both very opinionated, which may turn heated.

00:33You want to spend, spend, spend, spend money.

00:35You don't think about the consequences.

00:38Any second thoughts?

00:50I was born in Oklahoma, grew up around farmland.

00:54I had a very good childhood, but the little country town just didn't fit my personality.

00:58So I moved to the big city, Phoenix, Arizona.

01:02And I just absolutely loved it there.

01:04I am the chief of staff for a local mayor.

01:07I grew up in Italy, in Naples.

01:11But I always had this desire to go to America.

01:14And I moved to Arizona in the 90s.

01:17Salvatore was in banking.

01:19We've been together for 25 years now.

01:21And this is Pippin and Peanut.

01:24We were just going to get one.

01:25But they were so adorable.

01:27Peanut.

01:28We had a wonderful time in Phoenix.

01:30We had a nice garden.

01:32But the hustle and bustle was quite wearing.

01:35And then I had to go back to Italy to take care of my mom.

01:39Her wish before she passed was to promise her that I would never go back to America.

01:45So once my mom was gone, I had to convince David to move to Italy.

01:50The hardest part was for him to give up his career.

01:54It was a pretty hard decision.

01:56But I was happy to make the move to Italy because I love Salvatore.

02:00And the fact that we have been so long together, he had no other choice to move with me.

02:05So he made it happen.

02:07This is really cool.

02:08Yeah.

02:09Salvatore is from Napoli, but we didn't want to move into another big city.

02:14We were scrolling the internet and we saw Poggio Bustone.

02:18It looked absolutely gorgeous.

02:20It's in Lazio, right in the center of the country.

02:23So we're about an hour and a half from Rome.

02:25And when we first arrived here, we fell in love with the countryside and the hospitality of the people.

02:33Saint Francis founded a monastery here in the 13th century.

02:36So there's a religious pilgrimage of people that come through here each year.

02:40This is a fresco from 1600.

02:42It's beautiful.

02:43The main reason we're looking here.

02:45There is a lot of opportunity.

02:47We're going to try our hand in the agriturismo business.

02:51Agriturismo is having a combined hospitality business, which also offers some products that are made in the land.

02:57So it could be olive oil.

02:58It could be you're making cheese or wine, but it's a big business in Italy.

03:02We had a rental portfolio in Phoenix and we sold all of those properties to give us startup capital.

03:09I have a green thumb, but we're kind of going into this blind and giving up our careers to move to this unknown village.

03:17It's scary, but that adds to the excitement.

03:20Porto Bustoni is a bit undiscovered.

03:22You can get a lot more bang for your buck.

03:24Oh, he's cute.

03:25It must be David.

03:26Bigger houses, more land for less money.

03:28Hey!

03:29You're Sal?

03:30No, I'm David.

03:31Ah, okay.

03:32The style of the house is going to be the major point of contention between the two of us.

03:37One thing that we do agree on, we want a good view and we want land.

03:41So we can generate income at least five bedrooms with ensuite bathrooms.

03:46Oh, that's a lot.

03:47Well, we would like to also host bed and breakfast.

03:50Yeah, we're looking for something furnished and ready to move in.

03:54All right.

03:55Any other particulars?

03:56Since we're moving to Italy, I would like something with historic features like frescoes.

04:01Okay.

04:02I would like something more rustic.

04:04Perfect.

04:05We are in rustic heaven here, so that won't be a problem.

04:07There are frescoes here in the sanctuary, so you can always visit them, but I understand.

04:10You're looking for something that has character and you feel that's a little different than the rustic farmhouse type thing.

04:14Right.

04:15So what is your ideal budget?

04:16No more than $650.

04:18That could be easy here.

04:19They both know what they want.

04:20The little problem here is that they seem to want things a little separate.

04:23The first option has a ton of business potential, but with zero experience in the agro industry, will they be getting in over their heads?

04:31It has a really nice piece of land.

04:33It's 10 acres and there's seven bedrooms with six ensuite baths.

04:37Oh, wow.

04:38That's great.

04:39I really think there's enough space here for you guys to maybe use it as a B&B.

04:42There's also a lot of olive trees.

04:44Oh, wow.

04:45You've got almost a thousand.

04:46Whoa.

04:47That's a lot of trees.

04:48Yeah.

04:49You could start your own business.

04:51Wow.

04:52Wow.

04:53This is a beautiful property.

04:54It don't look that big.

04:56Not at all.

04:57That's just one level, yeah.

04:58It goes down two other levels on the hillside.

05:00I love the stone.

05:01Very rustic.

05:02I mean, it's a pretty house, but it just doesn't have the wow factor.

05:05But I love the view.

05:06How much are they asking?

05:08650,000.

05:09Whoa.

05:10That includes 10 acres of land.

05:11That's a lot of work.

05:12But we could produce olive oil, Salvo.

05:14We've never done it before, so...

05:16Well, he's never moved to Italy before, so it's all new.

05:19Taking care of a thousand trees, that's a little bit overwhelming.

05:24Oh, but it's part of the adventure.

05:25Yeah.

05:26Stay positive, Salvo.

05:27I'm just being realistic.

05:29Wow.

05:30I love the front door and arch.

05:32Yes.

05:33We'll look at the second level later, but here you have a first little living reception

05:36room with an antique ornate fireplace.

05:38This is pretty.

05:39Hey, you can let the boys run free if you want.

05:41No worries.

05:42Oh.

05:43Hey, boys.

05:44Pippin and Peanut do fight quite a bit.

05:48Yeah, they got from us.

05:50You can tell.

05:51This is your dining room.

05:53I love those beans.

05:54Beautiful, aren't they?

05:55Yeah, that's exactly what you were looking for.

05:57And let's go look at the kitchen, yeah.

05:59Oh, wow.

06:00All custom-made cabinetry.

06:02Bello, eh?

06:03It's kind of a tiny kitchen, though.

06:05Be cramped.

06:06But there is space downstairs to make a second kitchen.

06:09Here's your million-dollar view.

06:12Oh, wow.

06:13Whoa.

06:14A lot of privacy.

06:15This is rush hour right now.

06:16Wow.

06:17Yeah, you could hear a pin drop.

06:18It's so peaceful out here.

06:19Right.

06:20You could.

06:21David seems to be a little more of a dreamer.

06:22I love his optimism.

06:23No frescoes, but it does have potential.

06:26Let's see these bedrooms.

06:27It's sometimes hard to read Sal.

06:29He's the stereotypical hot-headed Italian.

06:31Whatever.

06:32I love David, but financially, he doesn't think about the consequences.

06:37Here we've got the king's dining room.

06:39He already at 6.50, so we have no money to play with.

06:44Salvatore does not make impulse buys.

06:47However, I do do things more spontaneously.

06:50Sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

06:53Sign here.

06:54Sign here.

06:55This type of property is exactly what we left Phoenix to try to find.

06:58Got some spectacular bedrooms.

07:00Makes me feel like I'm already home.

07:02Bathroom en suite?

07:04Wow.

07:05I loved the amount of land.

07:07However, it seems a little small for bed and breakfast.

07:10I love it.

07:12It's very rustic, and the fact that each room has a bathroom would be perfect.

07:16But I wear a little bit too much land.

07:19Well, the olive trees are already established.

07:22I don't think it's going to be too much work.

07:24A thousand trees?

07:25It's not a lot of work.

07:26I don't have any experience.

07:28He doesn't know anything about olives.

07:30It would be a challenge.

07:31It would be a fun challenge.

07:33Whatever it takes.

07:34I'll take a certification and be an expert in olive oil.

07:37Mm-hmm.

07:38I appreciate Sal's staunch face.

07:41The next option is more manageable and way cheaper.

07:44450,000.

07:45Oh.

07:46Oh, wow.

07:47But it's still missing David's biggest wish.

07:49There's no frescoes.

07:50Oh, David.

07:51You're killing me.

07:53A typical date in Phoenix is just hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle.

07:57We were so exhausted.

07:59However, in the United States, that busy, busy, busy is idolized, really.

08:03Yeah, and you want to change, and I want to change.

08:06This is exactly what your mother had in mind when she wanted you to stay in Italy.

08:10Even though I'm not from Italy, it feels like a homecoming for me, too.

08:25I'm a boy from the country, moving back to my roots, just in a different country.

08:30So I'm really looking forward to being back in nature, being back around farm animals and the rural lifestyle.

08:36However, coming from a big city like Phoenix to a rural community in Italy could be a big culture shock.

08:44I'm a little bit nervous, but I'm very grateful to have Salvatore as a resource.

08:50And, I mean, I have a built-in chef, which I'm very thankful for.

08:54We're both excited about this opportunity.

08:57Yeah, we liquidated all of our assets in the United States to make this agritourism business.

09:02We have some cushion financially, but we have no experience.

09:06They've kind of made a decision which has no going back.

09:09Also, Salvatore and I do have differing tastes on architectural styles.

09:14They're definitely going to have to make some compromises on their list.

09:16I think the frescoes that David wants is not incarnate in a farmhouse.

09:20Not that I want you to give it up, but, you know, just making a point, that's a little bit of a taller order.

09:24I think Sal's main concern is really the money issue.

09:27Correct.

09:28To put Salvatore at ease, David's next option is comfortably under budget

09:32and may just have enough historical elements for the other David.

09:36It's got 10 acres.

09:37Wow.

09:38And it's also a big house because it's eight bedrooms and 12 baths.

09:41So, it's a little big, but it's an 18th century historic farmhouse,

09:44and I really think it's worth taking a look at here.

09:47Oh, yeah.

09:49Beautiful entrance, huh?

09:50Yes.

09:51It's an 18th century carriage house, so we had stables on the ground floor.

09:54Oh, look, Salvatore, there's a pizza oven.

09:56That's cool.

09:57Did you make pizza?

09:58Please.

09:59I'm a Napolitan.

10:00Okay.

10:01This house is 450,000.

10:02Oh, wow.

10:03In addition, you've got 400 olive trees and also many cypress trees.

10:06They are beautiful trees, but we are really looking for a view.

10:09Well, you have one.

10:10It's just hidden right behind those.

10:11Does it need work?

10:12Possibly.

10:13Yes.

10:14At least it's well below what we're able to spend.

10:17Let's take the original key and go have a look upstairs.

10:19Oh, look, the key is double.

10:20There's a little marker here.

10:21Look, it says 1711.

10:23They were just hunting turkeys in the U.S. when this place was born.

10:25Right, yeah.

10:26Very Italian-style architecture.

10:29Yeah.

10:30Plus the olive trees, which is good for agroturismo.

10:34Yeah.

10:35Good start.

10:36This is the main level.

10:37You've got an independent guest room, apartment on the ground level.

10:39Look at the antique ceilings here in the entrance.

10:41Oh, wow.

10:42Very dark in the entryway.

10:44But look at the great room.

10:45Oh, this is nice.

10:47Oh, look at the chandelier.

10:49Oh, that's beautiful.

10:50How old do you think that is?

10:51Ironworks is probably from Italian Liberty period.

10:53So 1880, 1900.

10:54Oh, okay.

10:55And so you have a very big room.

10:57Giant fireplace.

10:58So you could be relaxing around the fire and playing a game of scopa.

11:02Scopa is an Italian card game.

11:04I'm trying to teach David.

11:05It's really not that hard.

11:06It's similar to blackjack.

11:07Yeah.

11:08Nice house for entertaining.

11:10Still, shame that there is those trees.

11:13Look at this dining room.

11:14Oh, wow.

11:15Huge.

11:16It is nice size.

11:17Beautiful tapestry.

11:18Oh, I love that.

11:19Nice.

11:20And you've got your olive groves here in front and in the back.

11:22Okay.

11:23A load of furniture.

11:24All the furniture does stay?

11:25Yes.

11:26Nice.

11:27Oh, look at this old chandelier.

11:28It's very Golden Girls, isn't it?

11:30A little bit Florida.

11:31Nice.

11:32Where's the kitchen, David?

11:34Right on the other side of the entrance.

11:35Oh, okay.

11:36It's small, but fully equipped.

11:38This is tiny.

11:39Very small.

11:40We like to say cozy.

11:42Could you cook comfortably?

11:43Uh, not really.

11:46We're pretty disappointed in the kitchen.

11:48Really, only one person could fit in that kitchen at a time.

11:51And we want to entertain and host a bed and breakfast.

11:54This is a nice little private sitting room.

11:56Another beautiful tapestry.

11:57Yeah?

11:58It's lovely, yeah?

11:59Yeah.

12:00Follow me down the hallway of secrets.

12:01There are some historic features, but there's no frescoes in this casale.

12:06And it's pretty dark.

12:08This one is one of my favorites.

12:09Look at the furniture.

12:10Oh.

12:11Beautiful set.

12:12The bed.

12:13The en-moi.

12:14You got an en-suite bath.

12:15A nice big en-suite bathroom.

12:16I like these.

12:17The furniture in this bedroom wows me.

12:19And we still got another one to see here.

12:22Nice size bedroom.

12:23It is, isn't it?

12:24Yeah.

12:25Here up in the old attic space, it's all been converted into bedrooms.

12:28Almost all of them en-suite.

12:29Very rustic.

12:30But dork.

12:31Yeah.

12:32Oh, okay.

12:33Oh, this is beautiful.

12:35Minus the two trees in front.

12:37Yeah.

12:38It's kind of sad to remove those trees.

12:40But I think that we could sacrifice four or five to gain a view.

12:43Now that we've seen everything in the house, what's your impression of it, huh?

12:47Beautiful property.

12:48It's huge, aside from the kitchen.

12:50In terms of business, it's just bedroom after bedroom after bedroom.

12:54So it could be a bed and breakfast.

12:56Yeah.

12:57And you've got your olives outside as well.

12:58400 of them.

12:59What do you think, Salvatore?

13:00I love it.

13:01There's a lot of potential.

13:02Plus the price.

13:03We give us a lot of room to play with.

13:05Yeah.

13:06Because it's not really turnkey at all.

13:09That's a big drawback for us.

13:11We don't want to fixer-upper.

13:12I understand perfectly, yeah.

13:14Obviously, there isn't a Home Depot.

13:16But $450, I don't want to say it's nothing.

13:18But if it wasn't Tuscany, it would be one and a half million.

13:20David, I'm still waiting on you to show us some frescoes.

13:23The rustic farmhouse with frescoes.

13:25That's pretty much impossible.

13:27To get David his dream home, Agent David has to farm it out.

13:32How are you?

13:33This is like a dream come true.

13:35But it's only on half an acre.

13:36Mm-hmm.

13:37So the lifestyle in Italy is much different than the United States.

13:42Good evening.

13:43Good evening.

13:44The culture is surrounded around community, family, conversation and food.

13:50Food.

13:51Un po' di burro e il tartufo, chiaramente.

13:53Food is a very big part of our life.

13:56It's more than eating.

13:58It's a ritual for us.

14:00Like when Jesus brought bread and wine, it was to have a fellowship.

14:05It's a moment to get together, to share our views and our life.

14:09It seems like the Italians work to live where Americans live to work.

14:15So for us, we're done with the grind culture.

14:19We want a relaxed lifestyle.

14:21Yeah, they're going to have to get used to the slower pace.

14:23In fact, the philosophy here is charm and efficiency does not mix.

14:26So there's no qualms about it, but that'll probably be a learning curve.

14:30And we're planning to support ourselves with B&B Agroturismo Hospitality.

14:36Mm-hmm.

14:37And maybe even olive oil production.

14:39Salvatore and David & Co.

14:40I love that.

14:42Oh my God.

14:43Oh, I love David.

14:44I think he's a cool guy.

14:46No, no, not you.

14:47You.

14:49He knows what I want.

14:51I'm a little bit frightened I'm not going to be able to find the right house for David.

14:55I haven't seen this property yet myself.

14:56It was proposed to me through a colleague.

14:58I fished it out for them, but it looks fantastic.

15:00It's a little bit more house than you might have wanted because it's divided into five apartments.

15:05So this represents to me an income stream immediate for B&B.

15:08It doesn't have that much garden though.

15:11Look at the entrance here.

15:12Oh, wow.

15:13Oh, wow.

15:14It's a mansion really, huh?

15:16There's an old well and olive press there in the garden.

15:18Here's our beautiful host.

15:19So nice to meet you.

15:20Pleasure.

15:21How are you?

15:22Bene, bene.

15:23Look at those puppies.

15:24Pepe and peanut.

15:25I forget which one is which, but yeah.

15:26Sorry.

15:27The house has 15 bedrooms and eight bathrooms.

15:3115.

15:32Awesome.

15:33I will hand you the keys.

15:34Okay.

15:35And I'll leave it up to you.

15:37Well, the place is a hodgepodge of culture and history.

15:39It's got a little rustic.

15:40It's got frescoes for you that we'll see later.

15:42Amazing.

15:43It looks like the red one that we saw online, but this is prettier.

15:45So you've been looking in secret without me, huh?

15:47Well, from here we can see the terrain, which is about 2,000 meters.

15:52It's not as much land as you wanted, but it is well cured.

15:54Is it a price?

15:55$750,000.

15:56Don't make that face until you see on the inside.

15:58There's almost five houses in that price.

16:00Five kitchens.

16:01Don't be so negative up front.

16:02It would generate income right away.

16:04That's what you think right now, but you don't realize how much is expensive until you move in.

16:09And right through here we've got a lovely workroom study, beautifully furnished.

16:14Look at the history.

16:15You cannot find a house like this in the United States.

16:18Maybe in Boston.

16:19Look at the king of Italy.

16:21Yeah, that was the last king, the one who abdicated.

16:24And you've got a nice view on the grounds from here.

16:26This is my favorite house so far, Seville.

16:28However, it sits on half an acre.

16:30So that's really disappointing because there's no farming opportunity.

16:35Oh, wow.

16:36Look at these beams.

16:37It's lovely.

16:38Wood beams, working fireplace, and then your rustic kitchen.

16:42Oh, okay.

16:43Wow.

16:44I like the kitchen.

16:45Plenty of storage space, many counter space.

16:47You can see it's in excellent condition.

16:49Yeah.

16:50It's quite spacious.

16:51Oh, yeah.

16:52I think we finally agree on something.

16:53Yeah.

16:54It doesn't happen too often.

16:55No, it doesn't.

16:56Here's what I think would be the special room for David.

16:58Beautiful living room.

16:59Wow.

17:00Look at the ceilings.

17:01This is it.

17:02Told you I'd find you some frescos, huh?

17:04Yeah, this is perfect.

17:05It wasn't easy.

17:06We're only going to see these here, so don't forget this place.

17:10Look at the detailing.

17:11I love it.

17:12Thank you for finding this place for us.

17:14Both happy?

17:15Not with the price.

17:17$750, really not that bad.

17:19Let's go take a look at some of the bedrooms.

17:21This property is split up into five separate apartments.

17:25They're turnkey, so we could generate income immediately.

17:28But then you have to think about electric, gas, all of these things to maintain these properties.

17:34Oh, wow.

17:35We will need to hire someone.

17:37I don't see a lot of profit.

17:38So we've seen a lot of house.

17:40What's your impression?

17:41This is a dream home for me.

17:43As the frescoes, as the beautiful marble fireplace mantel.

17:46The only thing that I don't like is it only sits on half an acre.

17:49But we can work around that.

17:50I think it's a little bit too big and too expensive.

17:53I knew you were going to say that.

17:54I know that we decided on a certain amount, but we do have a cushion to play with.

17:58I mean, be realistic.

17:59Where there's a will, there's a way.

18:01We haven't even run the numbers on how much we could rent these for yet.

18:04It's not going to work out.

18:06Money-wise.

18:07You're such a pessimist.

18:08I'm not pessimist.

18:09I'm just realistic.

18:10I'm sorry, David.

18:11But it's too much.

18:15Things got a little bit uncomfortable on the roof, I must say, because it seemed that David was a lot more convinced than Sal.

18:20It's a beautiful, historic mansion.

18:22It was a wish of your mothers for us to settle here.

18:28It's very important to keep that promise.

18:31And it's important to me, too.

18:33I loved your mother.

18:34But picking the right house is going to be a really hard decision.

18:37What I was trying to do for David and Sal, from desert to rolling hills, was put together three very different properties,

18:43although they all have attributes that they're looking for.

18:45So I think I tripped them up quite a bit.

18:47If I have my heart set on one property and Salvatore is dead set on another one, things may turn rather heated.

18:55Let's run through them all.

18:56The olive grove house.

18:58Beautiful olive groves.

19:00It's more your style house, but with the land, it could be worth it.

19:04But we have no experience to do that.

19:07I don't think it's going to be too much work.

19:08A thousand trees?

19:10The rustic, Tuscan-style farmhouse.

19:12I like the pizza oven, but there's not a lot of light.

19:16There is no view.

19:17And I don't like the fact that there is a smaller kitchen.

19:21Well, to that point, it's the least expensive house that we've looked at.

19:26We would have $200,000 to play with.

19:28Oh, my God.

19:29The Fresco Villa had the beautiful facade.

19:32It screams Italy.

19:34The only drawback is it only sits on half an acre.

19:38We already talked about it, David.

19:40It's out of our budget.

19:42I don't know about that one.

19:43I know you don't, but that's my number one.

19:46I'm sorry.

19:47Well, it doesn't have any land.

19:50Correct.

19:51So, the Fresco house is out.

20:00Although I do love the rustic farmhouse as well, and we would be saving a ton of money there,

20:06it needs a lot of work.

20:07It has half the amount of olive trees.

20:09And I think that we would be using the savings to put right back into the house.

20:14Plus, there is not a view.

20:16All of those mature trees block it, and I would hate to have to cut down old-growth trees.

20:22It would be like killing someone.

20:24I can see myself in the olive house, too.

20:27Okay, well, at least we agree on that.

20:29Oh, finally.

20:31Phoenix is nothing more than a fading memory at this point.

20:34We do miss our friends and family, but this next chapter has just been exhilarating.

20:39Yeah, there is no traffic.

20:41It's like to be in paradise.

20:43You done?

20:44Looking good, man.

20:45Yeah, I told you.

20:46We put a lot of effort into learning all there is to know about olive oil production.

20:49Let's fill up a bottle.

20:50We made about a thousand liters.

20:51We're working on our brand and finding buyers.

20:52It's better than butter.

20:53Mm-hmm.

20:54We haven't established the B&B yet, but we had some of my family visit us.

20:55We absolutely love the decision that we've made.

20:56And looking at this beautiful view, it's just vacation every day.

20:58Yeah.

20:59We're making Frita proud.

21:00Yeah, mom was right.

21:01If it was not for the promise that I kept it to her, we'd probably still be in the United

21:02States.

21:03Oh, yeah.

21:04Yeah.

21:05Yeah.

21:06Yeah.

21:07Yeah.

21:08Yeah.

21:09Yeah.

21:10Yeah.

21:11Yeah.

21:12Yeah.

21:13Yeah.

21:14Yeah.

21:15Yeah.

21:16Yeah.

21:17Yeah.

21:18Yeah.

21:19Yeah.

21:20Yeah.

21:21Yeah.

21:22Yeah.

21:23Because the B&B is going to be able to be in the United States.

21:25I think that I can speak for both of us.

21:27We're the happiest that we've been in our entire lives.

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