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00:00Blacklisting under the act by the same procuring entity or a combination of three violations imposed with blacklisting by the procuring entity and other procuring entities as posted on the GPPB portal or failure to comply with the provision on warranty that requires to repair any noted defect or damage to the infrastructure project due to the use of materials of inferiority
00:30quality within 90-day calendar days from the issuance of the order by the hope to undertake such repairs. So that's already the provision, Mr. Chair, for the perpetual disqualification of A&M.
00:42Pero, three offenses.
00:44Yes, that's the provision, Mr. Chair, right now.
00:46Siguro, that would be something for the committee to study.
00:53Pag-aralan natin kung pwede nating amindahan niyan.
00:56Three offenses, parang masyadong marami na yun.
01:01Go ahead, Mr. Chairman, Senator De La Rosa.
01:05Thank you, Mr. Chair.
01:07So, pagkakaalam niyo, nakadalawa pa lang kayo, strike two pa lang kayo, na blacklisting?
01:17Yes po, Your Honor.
01:18Isa sa panahon ni Pinoy, isa sa panahon ni PRRD.
01:23Dalawang dalawa lang.
01:24Yes po, Your Honor.
01:25Sigurado ka?
01:27Yes po, Your Honor.
01:30Lahat ng kumpanya niyo?
01:32You have 50, ilang kumpanya niyo?
01:34Ah, bali, ano po, ah, nag-divest na po kami sa iba, pero may, ano po, may loan po, may pinaloan po kami sa mga kamag-anak namin doon sa mga company na yun.
01:44So, bali po, wala pong blacklisting yung ibang company po.
01:47So far, ilang suspension lang natanggap niyo?
01:50For St. Gerard.
01:51Ah, St. Gerard only po.
01:53St. Gerard lang, dalawa.
01:56Yes po, Your Honor.
01:57I agree with the Senate President na siguro, Mr. Chair, baguhin natin yung provision ng batas na yan na i-adjust natin dahil pabalik-balik lang ito eh, pabalik-balik tayo.
02:09So, super Mr. Chair, yan lang muna ako.
02:11At, ah, mamaya, if you allow this representation, pagbalik ni Alcantara, di Alcantara, I will ask a question.
02:18Of course.
02:18Thank you, Mr. Chair.
02:19Thank you, Senator Dolorosa.
02:21Senator Bamacino.
02:22Maraming salamat, Mr. Chairman.
02:23Babalikan ko lang yung mga tanong ko kay Secretary Bonoan at kay Mr. Hernandez.
02:28Ah, Bryce, so dun sa 100, so diba kanina inamin mo na substandard nga ang lahat ng proyektong na hawakan niyo sa Bulacan.
02:38Correct, no?
02:40Apo, Your Honor.
02:40Okay.
02:41Ah, let's say, kunyari, so magkano ulit yung porsyentuhan natin?
02:47Ah, 25 ang ibinibigay sa?
02:5025 to 30 po sa proponent.
02:52Okay, and then?
02:53Ah, meron pong, ah, sa office na napupunta na 8.5 percent.
02:59Okay.
03:00And then, kasama po dito yung mga taxes, and then meron po yung, ah, mga, ah, materials and testing.
03:09No, ano na yan? That's the actual project cost, diba?
03:12Yes po, Your Honor.
03:13Ah, kung ihihiwalay mo, yung binabayad ninyo na lagay, and yung project cost, out of 100 percent, ano talaga yung napupunta sa proyekto?
03:24Sa flood control po, nasa 25 to 30 percent lang po ang napupunta sa project.
03:30At dun sa iba?
03:32Ah, sa mga buildings po and roads, nasa 50 percent po.
03:3750 percent?
03:3745 to 50 percent po.
03:39Okay, at para ma-fulfill yung project na maayos, obviously, dapat lagpas sa 35 percent, no?
03:48Yung actual, kasi overpriced siya to begin with, diba? Tama ba?
03:51Apo.
03:52Okay, so overpriced ka to begin with.
03:55Ah, dun sa nakukuha ninyo, anong porsyento talaga yung kailangan para maging maayos yung proyekto?
04:02Sa flood control, kung 25 to 35, sabihin mo nang 30 percent, 30 percent lang talaga yung pupunta sa proyekto
04:08para maging maayos na flood control yan, ilang porsyento dapat yan?
04:12Doble?
04:15Um, paano, pwede mong pangayulit?
04:17So, okay, ulitin ko yung mathematics, ha.
04:19So, merong project cost, sabihin mo nang 100 million, okay?
04:24Ang sabi mo, pag flood control, yung napupunta lang talaga sa proyekto is anywhere from 25 to 35 percent.
04:31Tama?
04:32Tama po.
04:32Sabihin natin 30 percent, yung gitna, diba?
04:35Kung ginawa mong maayos yung flood control, magkano dapat yung na ginagastos ninyo para sa proyekto?
04:44Kasi ngayon, 30 percent lang yung ginagastos ninyo, eh.
04:46So, 30 million.
04:47Kung 100 million yung project, 30 million lang yung ginagastos nyo sa proyekto.
04:51Kung ginawa ninyong maayos yung proyekto, magkano dapat yun?
04:56Ah, nasa mga 70 percent po, Your Honor.
04:58So, doble, more than dobol, diba?
05:01So, masasabi natin, yung budget ng DPWH, ito po yung gusto kong tukuyin, yung budget ng DPWH is actually about 30 to 40 percent overpriced.
05:15Kung tama yung ano, ah. Kung tama, kung malalagay talaga sa tama yung project cost natin, it's about 30 percent overpriced.
05:22Correct?
05:24Yes po, Your Honor.
05:25And that is your personal knowledge mo ito bilang isang assistant district engineer for many years, Bryce, no? Tama?
05:36Ah, yes po, Your Honor.
05:37Okay, tatanungin ko si Secretary Bunoan, kasi alam nyo po, sa October 20, pag-uusapan namin ang DPWH budget, tinanggal na po yung flood control na 200, may nagsasabing 260, may nagsasabing 275 billion, may natitira pa.
05:54Hindi po kaya yung natitira ay overpriced pa rin, Secretary?
05:58Ito dito po sa naririnig natin, ah.
06:00Your Honor, I think the budget, I mean the amount that is included in the budget is just a provisional amount, you know.
06:13If a project says 100 million, 100 million, it is up to the implementing office, actually.
06:20See to it that that project is done properly.
06:24What I am hearing now is actually that there are many ways for them to bloat.
06:30Opo, kaya overpriced, kaya siya overpriced.
06:33That's why, they're overpriced, actually, Your Honor.
06:36Sino po yung nagde-decide dun sa mga project?
06:38Kasi lumalabas po kasi overpriced eh, di ba?
06:42So, in overpriced yan para may spasyo para maghatian.
06:46Yes.
06:46Pero sa sobrang grabe yung hatian, kahit yung project mismo, nakakalahati na rin lang inapupunta dapat dun sa proyekto.
06:53In fact, 30% na nga, mas maliit pa.
06:5650% for non-flood control, 30% for flood control.
07:00So, ibig sabihin nun, even yung paglalagay ng presyo ng mga proyekto, may problema.
07:06Dun pa lang, may problema na.
07:08Tama, Sekretary, no?
07:09Yes, Your Honor, kasi I think the District Engineering Office has a threshold authority up to 150 million.
07:18So, it's up to, it's actually their authority.
07:21Incumbent na sa kanila how they're going to implement it.
07:24Nasa kanila po yan, pero hindi po ba yan sinicheck ng Central Office, ng DPWH?
07:30At least during your time, Sekretary, no?
07:32If Sekretary Dizon were here, I would ask him the same question, pero wala po siya dito.
07:35So, Sekretary Bunoan, hindi ba yan incumbent upon the Central Office to check kung overpriced ba talaga itong mga proyektong to o hindi?
07:44Your Honor, we gave them all the full authority actually at the district offices because they have all the check and balances in the implement.
07:55Nandun po yung quality assurance unit nila, nandun yung audit nila, nandun yung inspector nila.
08:05So, it's all within their authority, Your Honor.
08:07So, sinasabi niyo po, pinaubaya na ng Central Office dun sa distrito?
08:11Yes, Your Honor.
08:11And this is something we have to change.
08:14Kasi kitang kita po, dahil pinaubaya po sa kanila, ilang taon na po yung ganyan ng sistema.
08:20Bryce, ilang taon na ganito yung sistema ninyo? Sa pagkakaalam mo?
08:23Mula po nung dumating si Boss Henry Alcantara sa office namin, that is 2019 po.
08:30So, 6 na taon. 6 years na ganyan po yan. 6 years po yan na napalampas lang ng DPWH.
08:37Of course, tatlong taon lang po doon yung sa inyo, Sekretary Bunoan.
08:41Yes, Your Honor.
08:41Pero systemic problem to eh.
08:43Diba?
08:44So, sa October 20, sa DPWH budget, nais nating i-bring up to kay Sekretary Dizon na hindi lang siguro flood control yung kailangang tanggalin.
08:53Baka kailangan i-audit talaga yung...
08:54Hansaplast Elastic Bandage hugs every wound because covered wounds heal better.
09:02Hansaplast Antiseptic Bandage hugs you to heal you.
09:05...tama po, diba?
09:081.088 trillion.
09:09One point, almost 1.1. This year.
09:12Last year, it was bigger.
09:14Mas malaki.
09:15Sorry, 2025, no?
09:17Almost 1.1 trillion.
09:191.088, yes.
09:20Opo.
09:21So, kumbaga, parang 1.1 trillion at sinasabi po nyo, walang check and balance ang sentral.
09:28Nasa district lahat ng check and balance.
09:30Naklaro po dito sa distritong ito, ay nagkakonsyabahan, nagkakonspiracy po sila, no?
09:37So, this is a serious matter because we're tackling the budget as we speak, Sekretary.
09:42Eh, baka po, kung 1 trillion po yan, baka clearly, 300 to 400 billion po dyan.
09:48Pusible pong magamit sa ibang bagay at nakakadagdag lang tayo sa perang nawawala po dyan o nananakaw, no?
09:58So, is there a representative from DPWH here?
10:02May komento.
10:03Kayo po, no?
10:03Sorry, Yusik Eric pala.
10:05I'm sorry, no?
10:06May komento po kayo dito, Yusik Eric, dito sa revelations nila, ADE Bryce.
10:10Sir, I just would like to inform, sir, na I assume the technical service is just last month po.
10:18Pero I have with me my directors who can enlighten probably what is...
10:23Hindi, kahit komento lang po, may komento po kayo kasi lumalabas po ang pag-amin nila, Mr. Hernandez, eh, anin na taon na po silang ganito yung patakaran nila na nag-overpriced.
10:36No?
10:36This is, I'm trying to look at this from a budget angle, Yusik Eric, kasi in a few weeks magkikita rin tayo sa budget hearing.
10:45Yes, sir.
10:45Anong may komento ka ba dito?
10:48Sir, as far as I can understand po, yung po kasing department natin, we have what we call the CMPD, construction materials price data, which we are updating every quarter.
11:03So, per region po siya.
11:05And then, lahat po ng mga commonly used materials po na ginagamit natin sa construction, and dun po yun.
11:10So, yun po yung pinapasok nila dun sa program, dahil na sa kanila, alam po, access po nila yung data na yun.
11:21Pagating po naman sa labor, ganun din.
11:23Ako ano yung prevailing labor, galing sa Dole, dun sa bawat regions natin.
11:28So, yun po ang ginagamit nila.
11:29And then, we have also the, for the equipment, we have the ASL rate.
11:35Ah, nalimutan ko lang yung years na paggamit nila, yung ginagamit nila na ASL rate nang sa mga equipments.
11:43And then, ah, pag pinag-plus po yun, ah, total direct cost, nung labor, materials, and equipment.
11:48And then, saka po tayo nag-a-apply noong mga indirect cost natin.
11:51So, nandiyan na po yung mga taxes natin.
11:54And then, yung mga overhead contingencies and miscellaneous, yun po ang procedure.
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