00:00In Philippines now, and you know, we can discuss these days, how big is the typhoon? Is there the rain?
00:06But I don't think that if somebody claims it's sun and there is no typhoon, it's not something we can tolerate.
00:12And this is the baseline. So of course you need to get facts straight.
00:16But I do think what is important in our research and our experience from the deal in miserable disinformation in propaganda
00:23shows that what they try to do is look into division.
00:28You know, looking into vulnerabilities, undermining the public trust.
00:32So I think being serving the best to the people and to the audience is the best.
00:38Really understanding what are real questions. What are the questions about the basic problems.
00:44Bringing the communities together and also showing that, you know, people have sometimes,
00:49the majority of people can agree regarding the basic facts. It would be very important.
00:53Yet also, the third level, for me, it's very important because Russian propaganda is not just about disinformation.
01:01They also inciting the murderous killing and executions.
01:05So that should be the responsibility for those who call for the, you know, Russians committing genocide,
01:12Russians killing Ukrainians and enabling, you know, dehumanizing Ukrainians.
01:16So those three layers, getting the facts straight, very important.
01:21The second, finding the common ground between the people who can find the common ground.
01:25And every, and all my experience in journalism, every research my organization did,
01:31showed that the majority of people can find the common ground.
01:34They can agree.
01:35You know, so, so we really need to have, and this is the most complex thing,
01:39but I, I, I strongly believe that the media globally can do that,
01:43but also separate and have, and those who really incite violence should be accountable.
02:05So, so, you know, stand aside for, and these in science,
02:08that doesn't really matter for us,
02:08you know, the ones who don't have to,
02:10do maybe the same thing that we don't have to be able to sign down here on the ground.
02:23You think we've unequivistant here,
02:24once again is flawed for us,
02:26and ultimately let me know the musicians of mine that they are moving down.
02:30So let's leave the Smithsonian to therenda Mickey Stewart ever.
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