Heart Hustle Houston S01E05

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Transcript

00:00Previously...

00:02What did I miss y'all? What y'all been doing?

00:04Just was waiting to see if Jordan was fine.

00:06Is the bird again?

00:07I'm dating someone.

00:08He's not even 30.

00:09Almost the same age with my son, Nico.

00:12You have a grown man in your house.

00:13You gotta have some tough love at the end of the day.

00:16He's right.

00:17Okay, so if you want to rap, what are you doing to pursue your rap career?

00:20You need to have a backup plan.

00:21Until you become a successful rapper, work.

00:24I don't even want to do this no more.

00:26All right, well, bye.

00:27I feel like I'm in survival mode.

00:29We're sleeping in separate rooms.

00:31I've mastered acting like I have everything all together.

00:34I just put on my mask and power through it.

00:37When last time y'all had some sex?

00:39Two months.

00:40Uh-uh!

00:41That's what you got called with!

00:43Lettoria!

00:45How are you?

00:46How are you?

00:47So good to see you.

00:49I'm thinking, where do we know each other from?

00:52What I do want to do is bring out every person.

00:55What in the FedEx Kinko's is this?

00:58Do you know me or do you not?

01:00This is crazy.

01:01You printed this out.

01:02Bitch, it's no weird.

01:03Bitch?

01:04Yeah.

01:05Yeah.

01:15You wish you look like this.

01:16Why?

01:17You wish.

01:18I wish.

01:19You wish.

01:20Shaniqua.

01:21Don't get me talking.

01:22This Timo wig on.

01:23Girl, there's no weird.

01:24So bitch, what?

01:25There's no weird here.

01:26Yeah, please.

01:27No weird here.

01:28Please.

01:29No weird here.

01:30No weird here.

01:31Big boss.

01:32All that.

01:33Right here.

01:34All day.

01:35Every day.

01:36You talking about me.

01:37The louder that you get.

01:38The louder that you get.

01:39The louder that you get.

01:40The louder that you get.

01:41I'm still getting my point across.

01:42It don't matter.

01:43So you guys can continue to minimize it with 2014 and 2015.

01:44Y'all not minimize nothing from when I was 13.

01:45Shut up.

01:46What is going on?

01:47Big ass.

01:48Big and proud.

01:49Yeah, as you should be.

01:50As you should be.

01:51Y'all stop.

01:52Y'all please.

01:53This too much.

01:54Oh my God.

01:55Oh my God.

01:56Oh my God.

01:57You caught up, bitch.

01:58Y'all tripping.

01:59This a lot.

02:00Y'all, why did I invite Shaniqua to ladies night?

02:01I thought she was going to come in shining bright, smiling, and having a good time.

02:18And she just ruined the night.

02:20I don't do this in public.

02:23I'm embarrassed.

02:53Oh my God.

02:54Hello.

02:55How are you?

02:56Good.

02:57How are you?

02:58Good.

02:59I'm loving this brand.

03:00I love this brand.

03:02I was feeling like a little zebra today, you know?

03:03The past few days have been hectic.

03:04It's like we've been in a circus that also meets at the zoo.

03:16From removing layers at group therapy to a downhill spiral singles ladies night out.

03:23Let's start.

03:24Let's start.

03:25Let's start.

03:26Boom.

03:27How are you doing?

03:28You so sexy.

03:30Now we just need to refresh as a group.

03:33Ladies, we're going to get to the drama.

03:35That's a given.

03:36But I want to share something with y'all.

03:38So y'all know that in Houston we know for like a lot of boss women doing boss things.

03:44And so I'm doing a dinner for women coming up this week and we're honoring 20 women in the city.

03:50The women's event is actually to honor 20 women in Houston in a women making history dinner.

03:59That's not the name of it.

04:02History.

04:03History in the making.

04:04Okay.

04:05I have two ladies here that I would like to honor.

04:09Yeah.

04:10Rowan and Elena.

04:12Aww.

04:13That is so sweet.

04:14Yeah.

04:15So sweet.

04:16The dinner is for women who have broken barriers in their industry and who are just doing great

04:24things.

04:25So they are history in the making.

04:27She's so sweet.

04:28Yeah.

04:29She's so sweet.

04:30I love you.

04:31I'm excited to honor Elena.

04:34Elena can beat a face like I've never seen before.

04:38I want her to know, hey sis, no matter what you're going through, you're growing through.

04:43That's her.

04:44That's her.

04:45Ro has mastered a male dominated industry.

04:48She gets respect.

04:49She knows how to open a business.

04:51She knows how to consult.

04:52She knows how to lead.

04:53And sometimes I don't think she gets the flowers that she deserves.

04:56It's going to be a good time.

04:57I'm so proud of Ro because her fight for wanting more out of life is all the fight she needs.

05:04I wanted to fill you and you in on ladies night that we had the other night.

05:10Oh, yeah.

05:11Well, can I start?

05:12Because y'all like Shaniqua.

05:13Which bottle of this wine can we have?

05:16After the rodeo, I talked to Shaniqua.

05:19I thought she was a cool person.

05:22So I invited her.

05:24I was thinking like, okay, this is going to be great.

05:26Even when she walked in, it was very heavy.

05:29Shaniqua is insisting that the two of us have met.

05:34I think Shaniqua and I can both attest to the fact that we communicated on Facebook probably 10 years ago.

05:40Here's the deal.

05:41You're in the business of PR.

05:43For sure.

05:44I've done business with you.

05:45Is there a reason that you're trying to minimize it?

05:47Because I don't care if it was two months ago, six years ago, or 10 years ago.

05:5010 years ago is worth minimizing.

05:51If you met somebody 10 years ago, it's not like our friends yesterday.

05:55She's still trying to show, I know you and you know me.

05:58And it's like, so she turns around.

06:01She brings out a stack of papers.

06:05But what I do want to do is bring out the receipts.

06:08So there's no Facebook here.

06:11This is communication via email.

06:13With asking for your support.

06:15It doesn't matter the year.

06:16Do you know me or do you not?

06:20And I kept saying Shaniqua.

06:22Like, what are you, like stop.

06:24I feel really bad with what happened with Shaniqua.

06:27And I feel partly responsible for that.

06:30The last thing I expected when I invited Shaniqua was for us to go into an email bullying competition.

06:36Maybe she's not who I thought she was.

06:38So Ro interjected and was like, this is messed up.

06:41Like this don't even make sense.

06:42Like you printing out stuff and all this stuff.

06:44And she turns and she says, bitch.

06:49So I got my purse and my phone and I left.

06:51And she left.

06:52So it took all of me to just sit there and be an adult.

06:55Because the old me with a big face mopped her with that Timo wig around that .

06:59Nobody has ever sat there and called me a bitch.

07:01In my life, I have never let another person disrespect me like that in my life.

07:04And I didn't react.

07:06True be told, I'm surprised Shaniqua didn't leave in...

07:10No, I don't want to say that.

07:13We not promote violence.

07:16On my drive home, I just, I cried because I was like, I don't want people to look at me like I haven't.

07:27I don't want people to look at me like I haven't grown out of being that person.

07:31You know what I'm saying?

07:32But when somebody does something like that, like it's just, it just totally took me there.

07:36And I didn't want to, I didn't want to react like that, especially not in a black owned business with other beautiful women there.

07:41But understand the way that you handled that.

07:45I was like saying.

07:46You handled that really well.

07:47Shut up.

07:48You were quiet.

07:49I couldn't say nothing because I knew I couldn't say anything.

07:50So that's big.

07:51I'm an East Coast girl.

07:52You know, we grew up a little bit more different out there.

07:54I had a fight growing up.

07:55Like I used to be crazy at Christmas.

07:57And granted, I didn't react the way I would have reacted in the past, but I still reacted.

08:00And I could have just walked away.

08:02You did good.

08:03You did good.

08:04You did good.

08:05You did damn good.

08:06I'm proud of you.

08:07But I will have to leave a little early tonight.

08:09Where you going?

08:10Well, so, you know, today's the anniversary of my dad's passing.

08:14So me and my sister and my god sister are getting together to just, you know.

08:18Yeah, celebrate.

08:19Because I remember we mentioned that about doing something to like celebrate.

08:22Yeah.

08:23They decided to, they wanted to go to a comedy show.

08:26Our dad loved to laugh.

08:27So that's how they wanted to, yeah.

08:29So I was like, okay, I'll definitely do that.

08:32Your curls already down.

08:33Yeah, you hear me, baby?

08:34Yeah, let your hair down.

08:35Yeah, give it to me.

08:37Yes.

08:38Enjoy it.

08:39I appreciate y'all.

08:40I've enjoyed hanging out.

08:41Y'all be good.

08:42A little zebra action.

08:44All right.

08:45All right.

08:46All right.

08:48All right.

08:49All right.

08:50All right.

08:51All right.

08:52West side with the sunshine's white on the scene feeling golden.

08:56Let it rip along your skin gently.

08:59Feel you're free.

09:01Landon, how was track practice?

09:02Good.

09:03Good.

09:04Good.

09:05On the 300, I got third place.

09:07Ooh.

09:08And on the 250, I got second.

09:11Good job.

09:12I'm so proud of you.

09:13Yeah.

09:15Who's that?

09:16Who is that?

09:17Bricky?

09:18It's me and me.

09:19Come on.

09:20Let's go see it.

09:21Come on.

09:22Hi.

09:23Hey, Landon.

09:24How you doing?

09:25Good to see you.

09:26Good to see you.

09:28I love my mom.

09:29She is the grandma that is the it grandma.

09:33She's called Mimi.

09:35You know, we don't call her grandma.

09:37What you up to?

09:39Hi, Mimi.

09:40Oh.

09:41Yes.

09:42Hi, Lena.

09:43When it comes to my upbringing, my mom was really hard on me.

09:47Like, nothing was ever good enough.

09:49It was always having to be on all the time and having to be perfect.

09:54I do feel like that spills into my adulthood and it's a lot of pressure.

10:01You want anything to drink?

10:02Eat?

10:03Um, yes.

10:05What do you have?

10:07Juice?

10:08Coffee?

10:09You want some tea?

10:10Probably just water.

10:11Just water?

10:12Okay.

10:13Yeah.

10:14I remember I was like 15, 16.

10:16I would do everyone's makeup for free.

10:18I didn't think that was something you should charge for.

10:20My mom saw people in and out of the house and she was like,

10:23are these people paying you?

10:25And I said, no, they're not paying me.

10:27I'm just doing their makeup.

10:28She was like, you're using your product though.

10:30Why aren't they paying you?

10:31And so from there she made me business cards.

10:34I like your pizza slippers.

10:36And from there I started charging for makeup and that's how my brand built.

10:41Like, sometimes your moms see things that you can't see.

10:44What's going on with you?

10:46What's the latest?

10:47So, okay.

10:48First things first.

10:50With my new studio, I'm excited about that.

10:53I can't wait to see it.

10:54The makeup lounge.

10:55I know you haven't seen it yet, but I'm working on getting it built out.

10:58Okay.

10:59Because you still have that other project that we both kind of talked about manifesting

11:04with making up Beyonce.

11:06So we got to get that in.

11:09That's always on the vision board.

11:11Every year I'm getting closer and closer.

11:13I just did her cousin's makeup.

11:15Anybody out there?

11:16Probably not.

11:17No.

11:18Yeah, we got to get Beyonce in there.

11:20That's for sure.

11:23Coming up.

11:24I realized there is some resentment in my relationship with Josh.

11:28You can handle a lot of things.

11:29But that doesn't sit well with me.

11:34It's been heavy on my heart with the situation about Shaniqua.

11:37Would y'all be open to talking to her?

11:39I'm a believer in second chances.

11:41You coming?

11:42Um, I've been journaling a lot lately.

11:48Oh, really?

11:49And I realized I find myself constantly pouring into, like, my kids, my husband, my job.

11:57And so I have my friends that teach me self-care and the importance of that.

12:02I know I didn't.

12:04Um, I was just doing the best I could under the circumstances,

12:09because I didn't have my companion really jumping in there helping.

12:12So I was just trying to have that front until I decided I didn't want to have that front anymore.

12:18When you say that, have that front?

12:20That everything's okay.

12:22Everybody just thinks we're a happy couple, but no.

12:26With my mom, when she was married to my dad, she had to save face.

12:30She had to basically cover what she was dealing with and just act like everything is good.

12:35And I realized that that is what I learned, because that's how I was raised.

12:40But, yeah, that's not normal.

12:43Do you think our family does that a lot? Like, put on a front?

12:47Probably.

12:48I was doing what I knew to do at that time.

12:50I guess until I couldn't anymore. You know, everybody has their limit.

12:54Yeah.

12:55So I got to mine.

12:57Okay.

12:58Eventually.

12:59Because I didn't want you there alone, just with your dad and drinking.

13:03Mm-hmm.

13:04Yeah.

13:05And we left.

13:06Yep.

13:07My dad was an alcoholic, and I never once had one lesson about how a man should treat me.

13:14So initially when Josh cheated on me, I didn't want to make a big deal about it.

13:18I was like, every woman goes through this, so let me just suck it up and marry him anyway.

13:23But it is something I never healed from.

13:26You can handle a lot of things.

13:28Yeah.

13:29I find myself tending to the kids, making sure they have what they need, getting them

13:33to bed on time.

13:34Mm-hmm.

13:35On the weekends, it's working.

13:36It's doing makeup.

13:37So there is some resentment there when it comes to my relationship with Josh.

13:42Sometimes things happen to build character.

13:44All right.

13:45But that doesn't sit well with me.

13:47I wanted to share about what I'm going through with Josh in regards to us being in separate

13:55rooms.

13:56But she doesn't always respond in the way that I would like her to.

14:00She's like, you should be smiling all day.

14:02Y'all are young.

14:03Y'all should be having fun.

14:04And I know she genuinely wants to see me happy, but I'm not there.

14:08You know, we never really sit down and talk.

14:11You're talking about, like, what you have going on and what you have to do.

14:14And then I'll talk about, like, quickly about what I did with work.

14:17But we don't sit down and talk.

14:19It's not because I don't want to.

14:20Mm, you don't want to.

14:22I do want to.

14:23No, you don't.

14:24You are always busy.

14:26You think I don't want to come visit if I have a choice?

14:30I think you make time for what you want to make time for.

14:33I notice a lot of similarities between my relationship with my mom

14:38and my relationship with Josh.

14:40With both relationships, I feel like I'm never good enough.

14:43I don't feel like my feelings matter.

14:47That's hard for me.

14:49Yep, that sounds like a plan.

14:50Well, I love you.

14:51You Selena Pena.

14:52Oh, and that's what we need to start doing, too.

14:54Saying I love you at all.

14:55Well, I love you.

15:03Okay.

15:20So I decided to partner with my big brother, Attorney Rodney Jones,

15:24to do an event for women.

15:27To celebrate women.

15:29To let them know their greatness.

15:31Come back over there.

15:33Welcome.

15:34Can you please?

15:35Hey, Veronica.

15:36How are you?

15:37Very cool.

15:40These women have done tremendous things in the community,

15:43in their industries.

15:45So they are certified women.

15:50Okay.

15:51They are history in the making.

15:54How are you?

15:55You look gorgeous.

15:56Beautiful.

15:57You, too.

15:58I love this.

15:59I love this, honey.

16:00Wait a minute.

16:01Oh, damn.

16:02How are you?

16:07Oh, this is a cute restaurant.

16:09Well, hey.

16:10Hello, ma'am.

16:11Look at us, pink and green.

16:14I'm your wife.

16:15Oh, yes.

16:17This place is so cute.

16:19Have y'all been here before?

16:20Hello.

16:21Hey.

16:22Oh, so good.

16:24All right, ladies.

16:25Hear ye.

16:27Hear ye.

16:28As Rodney and I were thinking about this event, we came up with the idea of trailblazers for

16:39this year, right?

16:40In addition to our honorees.

16:41our honorees. So our first trailblazer for the year is Miss Ro. Come on up. Don't be shy. Ro is in

16:53hospitality. She also does consulting and she's dominating her industry in more ways than one. So

16:58let's give it up for her, Miss Ro. Thank you, y'all. For Latoya to even think enough of me to even

17:04want to honor me for the things that I do is, first of all, I'm being seen. And I never have

17:10that moment to myself to be like, wow, Ro, look at you. But I needed that moment because it makes me

17:15look back at myself and be like, damn, you actually did do something. While you're already standing,

17:19our second trailblazer is Miss Elena. Elena's a celebrity makeup artist. She's worked with

17:25everybody from Eve to Latoya Luckett to the list goes on. Oh, turn around so they can get pictures

17:30to you and Rodney. Rodney's who did. It feels good. It feels good to be recognized. With everything

17:36that's going on in my personal life, this feels very special to me. International recording

17:42artist. I'm Miss Sandy. Congratulations. Rebekah Williams. Tony the Rapper. Miss Natalie. She is over

17:56all things entertainment. And she's also a recording artist too, okay? Congratulations to everybody.

18:02One last clap. Let's see. We're going to play some music and we're going to have us a good time

18:08and eat good. Y'all good? Hey, y'all. Hey, Latoya. I came to sit in me, bro. I love this poison ivy look

18:25that you have going on. You know how it is. Did you get to eat something, Latoya? You've been moving

18:29around when I work. I know. I be in the zone. It's been heavy on my heart with the situation

18:35about Shaniqua. I think she owes the people at that table an apology. I mean, she owes

18:41to FedEx for printing out all those emails. The blank ink. She needs to apologize to them. The tree.

18:46That's T-Mu for that wig. And she need to apologize to everybody. So would y'all be open to talking to her?

18:53It's not that I'm not open. I don't want anybody around that feels the need to prove that hard that

18:59I know them. If I know you, I know you. She can take that posture and stick it up that wig she got.

19:05Man, you should have a conversation with her. Yeah. Me and Rose. Don't nobody else want to. You coming?

19:13Brown. So where you going? You had news two minutes ago. To where? I turned around again. My attorney's office.

19:19Cheers to not giving other people your power. Standing in your power. Not letting people get you

19:25off your rocker. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Coming up. So with Nico, girl, I don't know when

19:31the last time I told him I loved him. I discredited Nico's emotions because I never thought of him.

19:37I love him so much. Do he know you love him so much? I don't know.

19:49I don't care what they say about you. I don't care. You're so funny. I'm a fool my own to be and about you. I don't care. I don't care.

20:01Hello, Labrina. Hey, Winter. Say hi, Queen. Oh, my gosh. Hey, girl. You look so cute. You look such a songwriter. I love that for you.

20:12I don't mean that work in the war zone and you out here pushing your baby in the swing, girl. I love it. Hey, Winter. Let me get some of this psychic manifestants for the future.

20:21When we were in group therapy, Labrina opened my eyes to a whole lot about motherhood and being a teen mom.

20:28I had my son at 19. And the strain on my relationship with my mom happened when I really needed, like, specific answers and guidance besides, well, you're going to need to go get a job or you need to work harder. You get out.

20:49When you said that, I'm just like, you know, is that how my son feels? You know?

20:54I just feel like Labrina's my person for what I'm experiencing right now.

20:58Girl, you can sit down. Thank you.

21:00Get us some wine. Yes, baby. Get us some wine. Let's talk.

21:04I'm excited to meet with her and just see what advice she can give me because I'm lost.

21:10And I don't know who to turn to.

21:13How's family life? Good.

21:15So, like, with my son, meaning we have split our...

21:20He goes with his dad some days.

21:22Yeah, he goes with his dad Mondays and Tuesdays and, like, throughout the weekends.

21:27And I'm Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

21:28So, how is that working for you? Like...

21:30It doesn't work for me comfortably.

21:32His daddy was like, well, maybe he should come and stay with me. Or did you suggest that?

21:36No. Pop did.

21:37Okay.

21:38Mm-hmm.

21:39Since Brennan has been splitting his time living with Will and I and living with his dad, there have been some not-so-great changes.

21:47So, how was school, Pop?

21:49Mm-hmm.

21:50It don't seem like it's good.

21:52Your grades sleep.

21:54You want to go to your dad's school.

21:56But you can't go there and then nosedive where you going backwards.

22:04Football is what you want to do, right?

22:06Yes.

22:07You still need to make good grades.

22:09You still need to be accountable.

22:11You still need to show up for yourself every single day.

22:14I think the environment that Brennan is in, it's taking a toll on him being motivated.

22:20I would hope that Pop comes back to stay full-time just to get back on track because we can provide a better future for him.

22:29But he has to see on his own.

22:31Like, sometimes you got to let these kids hit their head.

22:34He enjoys being over his dad's?

22:36I'm sure.

22:37Because it's not structured as much.

22:38It's not like here.

22:40I admire that about you, though, like how you can be as structured.

22:43I feel like I lack so much structure in my house.

22:45Like, I don't feel like I put my foot down enough.

22:47So with Nico, girl, it's like, I feel like he, I kind of never worried about Nico.

22:55And it's like once he got older, it was kind of like he got lost in the whole shuffle of my life.

23:01I was pregnant with Nico at 19, and he was my best friend for a long time because I was a single woman.

23:07We've been through so much together.

23:09Like, he went to college with me to get my master's, and he literally sat in class with me throughout these times.

23:15We did everything together.

23:16You grew up with him, and y'all literally went through life together, Chloe.

23:21Yeah, we did.

23:22Y'all went through life together, and it's like, I just feel bad.

23:26I feel like I've forgotten about him along the way, especially with all that we've been through.

23:31I kind of overlook him, and that's horrible for me to say, but...

23:35I would feel horrible, too, as a mom.

23:38When no pass, Nico had to take on a lot of adult responsibilities that he wasn't ready for.

23:43He became the man of the house overnight.

23:45But I never looked at what Nico's been through, and I gave my all to my daughters, and I went wrong there.

23:54I really did.

23:55If you told Nico, have you checked in with him?

23:58How have you been since no pass?

24:00Are you good?

24:02No, I haven't.

24:03So you can't even share that grievance moment with him, because you ain't checked in.

24:08I haven't.

24:09He going through it like you.

24:11Maybe not to your extent, but he going through it.

24:13But he has said that.

24:14He's expressed that.

24:15He's like, I'm going through a lot, too, you know?

24:17And you don't know how I'm feeling.

24:19You know?

24:20And I'm like, well, damn.

24:21So I have not tapped into you.

24:24And Nico, he's so quiet.

24:26It's kind of like you never know what he thinking, you know?

24:29So it's like, how do I, like, break that barrier and get into his head and just...

24:34Stop getting into his head.

24:35Don't worry about that.

24:37You deposit mama love.

24:39I think if Chloe focused on the emotional needs and desires of her children, she can mend things with Nico easily.

24:49She'll see a drastic change in life, which is all the dominoes will fall into place.

24:54He has his plan, you know?

24:56And he don't have a plan B, plan C.

24:59He has a plan A, and he wants to stick to it.

25:01So it's like, I want to support it.

25:03But I'm like, I feel like we're so distanced because that's not what I want for him to be, you know, doing music, rapping.

25:10I think you need to remove yourself and just give him love.

25:15It's not about coddling him or not letting him be a man.

25:19It's about letting him know that the love don't drop off.

25:22My heart just goes out to him because you not going through what I'm going through in terms of, like, this whole splitting thing and all of this stuff.

25:32And it makes me so emotional because I don't want to do what I'm doing right now.

25:37Yeah.

25:38And you have your son to, like, truly, like, tell him how much you love him and he's still here.

25:45I remember the stuff with Jordan and all that about how he found out that I was dating somebody younger.

25:52And he don't feel like it's right, and that's the problem for me.

25:57You know, I feel like this created a lot of issues in our household.

26:02Then take a step back.

26:04From Jordan?

26:05Yeah.

26:06Your kids are the priority for you, the way that you say they are.

26:10Then you put your energy in that.

26:13So?

26:14Let me go 24.

26:15Yeah.

26:17The time is running from us.

26:19It is.

26:20You can't get it back.

26:21So what you need to do, put your eggs in that one basket.

26:26Chatting with Labrina has really opened my eyes to a lot.

26:29I realized I really need to love on my son, and I need to put him first.

26:33And Jordan, he on the back burner.

26:36We on the stove, and Nico's in the forefront.

26:39He just want to hear that you're proud of him.

26:42And I am.

26:43I love him so much.

26:44Like, he is really, he really, like...

26:49Do he know you love him so much?

26:51I don't know.

26:52I hope so.

26:53Like, I don't think...

26:54When the last time I told him I loved him.

26:56Hmm.

26:57I don't know.

26:58Like, I feel, I feel horrible.

27:03Coming up, you never forget your kids.

27:06Mm-hmm.

27:07And I feel like I forgot you.

27:12How could I do this to this boy?

27:14Like, I feel horrible.

27:15I feel like a bad mom.

27:24Life goes on.

27:25Sun comes down.

27:26Turn the music on.

27:28I used to fear.

27:30Counting you.

27:31Now I see it so clear.

27:38Hello.

27:39Hola.

27:40I'll do a glass of the Cabernet.

27:41Okay.

27:42Which one you want?

27:43You know, I don't...

27:44You don't drink?

27:45No.

27:46We never had a drink together.

27:47Get you a glass of champagne.

27:48My boyfriend, Jordan, told me that I need to be tougher on Nico.

27:52But after talking to Labrina, I realized I really need to love on my son.

27:57And I don't know how to navigate this journey.

27:59You know, and I'm trying to figure it out as I go.

28:01But I need to sit down and talk to him.

28:03I feel like I wanted to do this because I feel like since you've been grown, we have not hung out.

28:09And I feel like I missed that.

28:11You know?

28:12Like, I know the 16-year-old Nico.

28:15You know?

28:16I don't know the 24-year-old Nico.

28:18I don't know what you like, what you drink.

28:21The fact that you drink is crazy.

28:23Crazy to me.

28:26I was talking to my friend Labrina, and she was basically saying, like, my heart goes out to him.

28:31Because you basically haven't shown him any love.

28:35Like, the love that he needs.

28:37You know?

28:38And you haven't had no in-depth conversations with him.

28:41You just in survival mode and going day for day, but not tapping into what's going on around you as far as, like, my kids.

28:49You know?

28:50And that's true.

28:51And I feel like sometimes I get angry because I'm thinking, like, my son's supposed to take care of me.

28:58You know?

28:59Or he's supposed to be there for me.

29:01I don't like the relationship we have.

29:03It's not the same no more.

29:04That's why I didn't want your little sisters here.

29:06I feel like I made you a caretaker.

29:09You're not supposed to be a caretaker at 24?

29:12No.

29:13No, I'm their caretaker.

29:14Yeah.

29:15You know?

29:16But I depend on you so much.

29:18It's kind of like...

29:19I don't mind.

29:20I don't mind it.

29:21It's just like, at the time when I was grieving and stuff and, you know, going through what I was going through, it was just like, that's all I had was the girls to be there for them at that time.

29:33Yeah.

29:34And I appreciate that.

29:35That's what I was doing, you know?

29:36Yeah.

29:37Trying to fill in the spot they know did.

29:39Yeah.

29:40And they love that because you're filling an empty space in our house for them.

29:45Yeah, because I feel like if I wasn't here, they'd be...

29:47I don't know where I would be without you.

29:49And I feel like you don't even realize how valuable you are to me.

29:54Where would I be without you?

29:56Where would the girls be?

29:58I'm working.

29:59I ain't got time to play games and do this, you know?

30:04And I feel like I forgot you.

30:11I don't know.

30:12I was just thinking, like, damn, I really haven't, like, tapped into you.

30:17And I want to apologize for that.

30:19I feel horrible.

30:20I feel like a bad mom.

30:22Like, how could I do this to this boy?

30:25Like, I forgot about him.

30:28That's not fair.

30:31That's hurtful.

30:33How could I, as a mom, do that to him?

30:40Coming up, y'all were very mean to each other.

30:42It was not our best moment, Ro.

30:44Are we gonna live to see maybe one more?

30:46Yeah, but me calling you a weirdo and you calling me a bitch with two different things.

30:49I was just thinking, like, damn, I really haven't, like, tapped into you.

30:58And I want to apologize for that.

31:02Um, I do.

31:06I want to apologize to you.

31:08Well, things are not how I want it to be.

31:11But it's better, for sure, for me.

31:13Yeah.

31:14As far as my mental health, you know?

31:16Yeah.

31:17So you feel like you went through some mental health struggles?

31:19Like, you feel like you...

31:20Yeah.

31:21I did.

31:22I was depressed?

31:23Yeah, I was.

31:24But no, because now I was doing...

31:25Now I have to...

31:26I can't...

31:27Like, I be trying to tell you, I can't go to the studio.

31:30Because I was thinking about, like, man, what would no one need to do right now?

31:34You know?

31:35And I was like, man, I can't even, like, process everything.

31:38And I'm so sorry for that.

31:39That really breaks my heart.

31:42I feel like I gotta make some changes.

31:44Yeah.

31:45But I want you to know that the stuff with the guy that I'm dating, right?

31:49Yeah.

31:50There is nobody in this world that I would put before you and your sisters.

31:56Mm-hmm.

31:57Okay?

31:58That's not the priority in my life as far as our relationship.

32:03You are the priority in my life.

32:05Like, I want you to pursue your dreams, whatever it may be.

32:09You know what I want to do with the music stuff?

32:12Yeah.

32:13Stuff like this.

32:14And I want to help you with it.

32:15Like, I want to be supportive of what you want to do.

32:17What do you see a plan in the music industry?

32:20What you want to do?

32:21Let's say rapping don't work out.

32:22Nah, it's going to work.

32:23Because I know...

32:24Okay.

32:25What are we going to do in the next year?

32:26To make this happen?

32:27Drop some music.

32:28That's all I need to do.

32:29I need to put some music out and videos.

32:32Life is all about transitions.

32:34Life is all about evolving.

32:36And I feel like right now, I really need to be supportive of Nico and all of his dreams,

32:42all of his aspirations.

32:43I know you want me to go to school and do that.

32:46But honestly, I'm not trying to be a doctor, a nurse, or a lawyer.

32:50I feel like I'm that person criticizing your life and trying to navigate your life and your journey.

32:57But it's not mine.

32:58And I have to realize that it's because I'm your mama.

33:01I'm harder on you.

33:02Yeah, that's why I don't take it to heart.

33:04I just...

33:05Well, I'm glad you don't.

33:06I'm just trying to do what I need to do.

33:08I'm going to the studio tomorrow, so that's a start.

33:11Okay.

33:12That's a start?

33:13Yeah.

33:14Well, I want you to stay focused.

33:15If you need something, if you need me to invest in your dreams, whatever you need, like, I got you.

33:20My conversation with Nico is probably what I needed right now in life.

33:26It's the best thing that has happened to me.

33:28I feel so uplifted.

33:30I feel like light now.

33:33I was so heavy before having this conversation.

33:36And I just feel good.

33:38I love you, Nico.

33:39I love you so much.

33:41And I appreciate you.

33:42And I just want you to know that.

33:44Give me a hug.

33:45I love you so much.

33:49I love you so much.

33:51People spend way too much time on the wrong things.

33:54Well, I've been living in my prime going my way.

33:57If they want a new goal, I want my big break.

34:00Is there a black hole like the big one?

34:04I don't do fights.

34:07I don't do public altercations.

34:09I'm a woman of class, believe it or not.

34:14But I am.

34:15And I was very taken aback by Shaniqua's behavior.

34:20Hello, ma'am.

34:21Yeah.

34:22Oh, she look cute.

34:23You look so cute.

34:24We kind of went with the same vibe.

34:25Look at us.

34:26How are you?

34:27However, I'm a believer in second chances.

34:29So I felt like bringing Shaniqua around one more time just to give her another chance would

34:35be good.

34:36Shaniqua, what happened?

34:40You know, Ro's energy was disturbed from the time I walked in the door.

34:46Hello.

34:47How are we doing today?

34:48Yeah.

34:49I'm not trying to be mean, but like the fact that you keep popping up in like our like friend group situations, I'm confused.

34:54I don't know about a pop-up.

34:55It is a pop-up because we know you was coming, Shanelle.

34:57Uh-oh.

34:58Well, excuse me.

34:59That's fair.

35:00In Ro's defense, Ro's energy is always very standoffish.

35:02She just, that's just her.

35:03That's her.

35:04Demeer.

35:05Okay.

35:06Her mind is always somewhere else.

35:07So she just be like, whatever, you know.

35:08Okay.

35:11She's a very sweet and loving person.

35:13Absolutely.

35:14Like, and she gonna go to war for her friends, as you can see.

35:16Absolutely.

35:17I'm not used to giving people a second, third, fourth chance.

35:19It's like, usually when somebody does something bad to me, they just don't exist to me anymore.

35:23And in order for me to transition to who I'm trying to be, can't always do the things I always did in the past, right?

35:29Hey, ma'am.

35:30Hello.

35:31Hey.

35:32Hello, how are you?

35:33I'm kinda nervous because...

35:34You gonna hug me?

35:35You remember Shaniqua, huh?

35:37Yes.

35:38What if you do it again?

35:39I'm not gonna say I'm about to be New World again if you put your hands in my face and call me a bitch again in my face.

35:43I don't know how I'm gonna react to that the second time.

35:45So I'm pretty apprehensive about how this is gonna play out.

35:48We were just kinda catching up and talking about what happened at Mocha.

35:51So when did it take a turn for the worse?

35:53When I blurted out...

35:55Pulled your paperwork out.

35:56Yes.

35:57The paperwork has nothing to do with Ro.

35:58Like, I don't know Ro.

36:00I haven't had interactions in the past with Ro.

36:02So the paperwork was for Latoria.

36:04Right.

36:05But when Ro responded, I guess, to the paperwork, that...

36:08I think that's kinda when it took a turn because it was, oh, that's, you know, that's weird or...

36:14Ro mentioned, like, why did you bring...

36:16You're a weirdo.

36:17Why would you bring that?

36:18And I think that just escalated.

36:19That was weird.

36:20You know, name calling and all the things.

36:22She probably should be called a weirdo.

36:23Yeah, but me calling you a weirdo and you calling me a bitch, it's two different things.

36:26In my head, I'm like, well, what the hell am I here for?

36:29Like, if we're not gonna be grown up about this and have this conversation, then what am I sitting in this seat for?

36:34I'm here to maybe have a conversation.

36:37Let's move forward from it in this moment.

36:39And you're still standing at 10 on what you did wrong.

36:41That was...

36:42Y'all were very mean to each other.

36:43Well, it's not our best moment, Ro.

36:47Are we gonna live to see maybe one more?

36:58Well, it's not our best moment, Ro.

37:01Are we gonna live to see maybe one more?

37:05When I made that comment, it wasn't shade to you.

37:07It was just, like, in general, because Latoya is softer, like, out of the group of girls, right?

37:11Southern Bill.

37:12And I almost felt like you were, like, bullying her.

37:13Really?

37:14Like, my child got bullied at school.

37:16Of course.

37:17Like, when I was growing up, I probably was the person that bullied the bullies.

37:19But I didn't like it, so I used to say something to them.

37:21So, like, that type of stuff bothers me, too.

37:23And I feel like, in that moment, you were bullying her.

37:25So, I don't want to cut you off, Ro, because, number one, I respect you.

37:28I want to hear you out.

37:29Thank you so much for sharing.

37:31And I'll share with both of y'all that bullying is something that I have gone through, like, for real.

37:38And when you grow up in those moments, you're kind of on defense.

37:43So, I'll be honest.

37:44I have triggers.

37:45You know, people, how they treat me, you know, maybe snub me certain comments and things that you weren't ill intended.

37:53It was a trigger for me.

37:55Where do we go from here?

37:56I still feel weary.

37:58It's just a...

37:59I don't know.

38:00I'm just sensitive about somebody.

38:01It's just a scary situation for me.

38:02I don't know why it's scary.

38:03You feel like she would do it again?

38:04Yes.

38:05I feel like if you get triggered, you're gonna...

38:07Or I don't know if it was because...

38:09If it's because...

38:10I don't know, man.

38:11Like, I've been lied on.

38:12I've been talked about.

38:13I've been...

38:14I've been just...

38:15You name it.

38:16It didn't happen to me.

38:17I didn't set up.

38:18I done all kind of been robbed.

38:19I done all kind of stuff happened to me in my life.

38:20And...

38:21So, you have a...

38:22It's a level of trust that's missing.

38:23Yeah.

38:24I'm just guarded as far as when it comes to, like, friendships because I'm so used to people

38:28on me eventually.

38:29Yeah.

38:30Or me, you know, going all out to be somebody's friend or doing above and beyond.

38:34And just to find out that they don't give a damn, really.

38:37That's one of the main reasons I'm guarded because I feel like I'm tired of getting hurt

38:40by people that I love.

38:41Yeah.

38:42Fair.

38:43I understand.

38:44That's just how I am.

38:45And I know it ain't always, like, the best thing, the best way to be, but that's just

38:46how I am.

38:47Yeah.

38:48Yeah.

38:49So, it's like, it's a gift and a curse over here, girl.

38:50Do you feel like you're guarded too?

38:52Well, I do think because of trying to protect myself, having a shell, having a layer, you know,

38:56because of being bullied, it's traumatizing.

38:58You know, when you think girls are your friends or, you know, and again, being six foot tall

39:03and super skinny, olive oil, and being made fun of.

39:09And then also, you know.

39:10Y'all actually have similar stories.

39:11Very similar because, you know, kind of the flip side of what Ro was sharing is, like,

39:16ultimately just being not treated well.

39:19When you're not treated well, it kind of makes you shell up to people, like, hold up.

39:24Hearing Shaniqua's story about what she'd been through in her life kind of made me see

39:28who she was outside of what she initially showed me.

39:31It just made me kind of be like, okay, well, we all been through stuff and we all made mistakes.

39:35I do just want to humbly just, number one, just apologize and own it.

39:39So, it's never okay to call anybody out of their name, and I certainly did, and I did.

39:43I would like to just apologize and say, you don't have to worry about that happening again.

39:48So, girl, you gonna let up off my wig.

39:53This is my first time ever actually being in a situation where I'm considering trying to move forward and reconcile this.

40:00And granted, now I'm having more of an understanding of who she is,

40:03but just in this moment with us apologizing and us getting, you know, moving forward from this situation

40:08doesn't mean that we can be best friends now.

40:10What I know going forward is that there's a mutual respect, and that's enough for me.

40:14I think there's a mutual respect.

40:15I'm not disrespectful.

40:16I haven't talked about you already, though, since the day's over.

40:18You probably talked about me, too.

40:19I was like, you know.

40:20Yeah.

40:21We gonna break us out right now.

40:22This is the end of it right now.

40:23And I appreciate that.

40:24So, I'm a believer in second chances.

40:26Yeah.

40:27Ro, not so much.

40:29I'm not.

40:30I'm still learning how to just navigate with who I am compared to who I used to be.

40:37And the old me, I would have never sat down and had that conversation.

40:41It makes me be proud of myself.

40:42It's just showing me that I've grown as a person.

40:45Y'all want to get a drink?

40:46I ain't drinking today.

40:47Why?

40:48I don't feel like drinking.

40:50All right, well, we'll go get you a juice.

40:52We need a cocktail.

40:53Next time, I've always wanted to be in a relationship.

41:05Let me find you one of these cowboys.

41:07Woo!

41:08Hello, hello.

41:09Nice meeting you.

41:10How do you feel about me, uh, dating?

41:13Hmm?

41:14I ain't went on over here yet.

41:16Are you ready for a baby right now?

41:18What is that?

41:21Oh, gorgeous.

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