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00:01Tonight on ABC News Live Prime, the suspect in the murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk behind bars.
00:10Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
00:13This man, identified as 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, held without bail in a Utah jail on charges including aggravated murder.
00:22Investigators piecing together his actions on that fateful day, plus the role his family played in his arrest,
00:28and what we're learning about who Robinson is.
00:31The deadly ICE confrontation in a Chicago suburb during a traffic stop.
00:35The driver aiming his car at officers, hitting one who was then dragged and fired his weapon.
00:41The driver later pronounced dead.
00:43This as President Trump's Operation Midway Blitz is underway in Chicago, in which he drastically ramped up ICE operations.
00:51Meanwhile, the president saying he'll send the National Guard to Memphis next.
00:55The mayor of Memphis saying he did not request it.
00:59NASA finds what it's calling the clearest sign of life so far on Mars.
01:05Minerals that appear to point to ancient life on the red planet.
01:08Is this proof of life out there?
01:10And what can we learn about our planet in the process?
01:14One of the biggest music events of the summer, Bad Bunny's residency in Puerto Rico entering its final weekend.
01:20We'll look at how he's changed the face of reggaeton and what it's meant for his hometown.
01:26And the morning show is back.
01:28Marianne Courtillard joins the new season and joins us to talk about what fans can expect.
01:35From ABC News World Headquarters in New York, this is Prime with Lindsay Davis.
01:41Good evening, everyone.
01:45I'm Stephanie Ramos in for Lindsay Davis.
01:47Thank you so much for streaming with us.
01:49We begin this Friday night with the arrest of the suspected shooter and the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University.
01:56Roughly 33 hours after the fatal shot was fired.
01:59And we have just heard from Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica, making remarks for the first time since the death of her husband.
02:07She was, of course, emotional but defiant and mentioned the campus tours will go on and that the movement he started will continue.
02:15Take a listen.
02:18They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith and of God's merciful love.
02:26But they should all know this.
02:31If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea.
02:41You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world.
02:49You have no idea.
02:50You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife.
02:59The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.
03:10To everyone listening tonight across America, the movement my husband built will not die.
03:16It won't.
03:17I refuse to let that happen.
03:22That message came hours after Utah Governor Spencer Cox identified the alleged shooter as 22-year-old Tyler Robinson,
03:30who was taken into custody after the governor says he confessed to his father.
03:34The investigation picked up speed after the FBI released crisp new images of the suspect.
03:40His father recognized his son dressed in those dark clothes and wearing sunglasses.
03:44The governor says the father tried to convince his son to turn himself in.
03:48Late yesterday, authorities released dramatic video they say shows the suspect making his escape moments after the shooting.
03:55There it is.
03:56Jumping from a rooftop to the ground, then running away.
03:59The governor said Robinson wrote anti-fascist messages on bullet casings, including one saying,
04:05hey, fascist, catch.
04:07The governor also begged Americans to dial down the rage and division and urged young Americans to be the change they want to see.
04:17Our team is standing by.
04:18Pierre Thomas, Jonathan Karl.
04:20But first, ABC's chief national correspondent, Matt Gutman, leads us off in Utah.
04:24Matt.
04:25And Stephanie, after a 33-hour manhunt, officials now tell us it's over.
04:29They have their man, 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, who is being held here at the Utah County Jail on suspicion of aggravated murder
04:38as they continue to piece together exactly how he got here to this college campus and how he allegedly murdered Charlie Kirk.
04:46Tonight, the man authorities say assassinated conservative activist Charlie Kirk with a single shot in front of a crowd of thousands, now behind bars.
04:56They say 22-year-old Tyler Robinson turned himself in at the urging of his own father,
05:01who recognized him from the widely circulated photos and videos.
05:05Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
05:06We got him.
05:08Utah Governor Spencer Cox saying Robinson had confessed to a family member.
05:12A family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office
05:19with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.
05:25The governor saying a family member said Robinson had recently become more political
05:29and had brought up Kirk's visit during a family dinner.
05:32Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU.
05:36They talked about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had.
05:40The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.
05:45And after painstakingly piecing together video, investigators say they've reconstructed Robinson's path to the scene of the crime.
05:52They say he arrived on campus in his Dodge Challenger at 8.29 a.m.
05:56and at some point changed into the distinctive outfit seen in those photos.
06:00Black cap, sunglasses, and that black shirt emblazoned with an eagle and an American flag.
06:05TMZ obtaining this video of a man who matches that description and he appears to be limping.
06:11Police say before the shooting, Robinson appears to walk with a stiff right leg
06:15and that his ability to bend his right leg appears to be restricted.
06:20Law enforcement sources now tell us investigators believe Robinson was hiding his long gun under his clothing,
06:25which explains why he was walking that way.
06:28Police say more than three hours later at 11.50 a.m., cameras caught Robinson making his way up the building stairwell
06:35into the roof where he crouched down and waited.
06:39Watching Kirk rev up the crowd.
06:42And at 12.22, they say Robinson started to run, not limping anymore,
06:47laying down in a sniper position about 175 yards away from the stage.
06:51And just one minute later, as Kirk was answering a question about gun violence, police say the suspect fired.
06:58Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?
07:02Counting or not counting gang violence?
07:04Great.
07:07And as the crowd ducked in panic, cameras capturing this image of a shadowy figure on the roof.
07:13And police say this video shows Robinson scampering across the roof and dropping down to the ground and then jogging off.
07:20Did it seem like he had a firearm when he came down?
07:23Yeah, I believe he did.
07:24The video is very grainy.
07:26It's from a distance.
07:27But yes, we absolutely believe he had the firearm when he jumped off that building.
07:31And authorities say that that suspect crossed the street from campus just over there,
07:35walked up this drive into this wooded area.
07:38And somewhere around here, he stashed that rifle, wrapped in a dark towel, those cartridges still inside.
07:46The governor today saying there were messages inscribed on the bullet casings.
07:50I will leave that up to you to interpret what those engravings mean.
07:54I think the clearest one that says catch fascist, there's not.
07:59And by the way, that's like catch like a ball, catch this.
08:03That's I think that that speaks for itself.
08:06Authorities also alleging Robinson shared details about the shooting and messages to his roommate.
08:11The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique.
08:19Messages from the contact, Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.
08:26And tonight, police are telling me they don't consider that roommate a suspect, but the investigation is ongoing.
08:32Chief National Correspondent Matt Gutman joins us now again.
08:36And Matt, what are the next steps now that the suspect is in custody?
08:38So Tyler Robinson, Stephanie, is now at the Utah County Jail.
08:44He will be there at least until Tuesday, because that's when we are told formal state charges will be filed.
08:50There might be there might be additional charges from the state afterwards.
08:53But the DOJ, the federal government, might also file charges, murder charges as well.
08:59Either way, we expect him to face the death penalty if he's convicted, Stephanie.
09:04Matt Gutman for us tonight with the very latest reporting.
09:07Matt, thank you.
09:08Tonight, authorities are digging into Tyler Robinson's background, his social media posts,
09:13his experience with guns, and what the messages found on bullet cases could mean.
09:18Here's our Chief Justice Correspondent, Pierre Thomas.
09:21Tonight, a portrait emerging of Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old Utah man who authorities say assassinated Charlie Kirk.
09:30Social media tells part of his story.
09:31His family included hunters, people very familiar and comfortable with guns.
09:37He comes from a middle-class Mormon family.
09:39Robin's mother is a social worker.
09:41His father recently ran a kitchen countertop business.
09:45Though he did not have military experience, sources tell ABC News they believe Robinson was proficient with firearms and had enough skill to make a long-distance shot from an elevated perch.
09:56And today, the governor alleged that the suspect wanted to literally use bullets to send messages.
10:02Here's what the governor said was on the shell casings recovered from that single-boat action rifle believed to have been used in the attack.
10:09Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read, hey, fascist, exclamation point, catch, exclamation point.
10:17Another shell casing referencing an Italian anti-fascist folk song.
10:21The engravings appear to point to a man consumed by internet culture.
10:25Robinson also used the encrypted messaging app Discord to communicate, a popular messaging tool used by young people that has been repeatedly tied to young men engaged in horrific acts of violence.
10:37Discord releasing a statement today acknowledging Robinson did have an account with their platform since deleted, but say they found no evidence the suspect planned this incident or promoted violence on their platform.
10:50Christian Schwerman was the custodian at Robinson's grade school and has known the Robinson family for over 16 years, describing the suspect as smart.
10:58He's part of our neighborhood, you know.
11:01I saw him grow up, yet I would have never have thought that.
11:04Keaton Brooksby has known Robinson since middle school.
11:06I knew his family had firearms.
11:08I knew he shot all the time.
11:11There was pictures all over his family's Facebook of him with firearms.
11:16Everyone in St. George has them.
11:18It's a very conservative town.
11:22And Pierre Thomas joins us now.
11:24Pierre, we've learned so much about the suspect in the last 24 hours.
11:28What more are you learning about him?
11:30Well, he's described as an extremely bright but reserved young man.
11:36Tonight, the FBI still working to establish motive.
11:39Police today pointing to some potential clues.
11:42A family member allegedly told police that he had recently become more concerned about politics, saying that he did not like Charlie Kirk.
11:50Stephanie?
11:51All right, Pierre.
11:53Thank you so much.
11:55There was a key moment during today's news conference with Utah Governor Spencer Cox where he addressed the country, the Republican governor, speaking about political violence, social media, and where this country is headed.
12:07Here's ABC's Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl.
12:10Utah Governor Spencer Cox said today the killing of Charlie Kirk made him angry, as angry as he has ever been.
12:19It is an attack on all of us.
12:23It is an attack on the American experiment.
12:25It is an attack on our ideals.
12:29But despite the anger, Governor Cox, a Republican, is pleading for calm, for dialing down the rage and the division, pointing out that political violence has targeted Democrats as well as Republicans, saying the shooting in his state can be a turning point for America.
12:45We can return violence with violence.
12:48We can return hate with hate.
12:50And that's the problem with political violence is it metastasizes because we can always point the finger at the other side.
12:58And at some point, we have to find an off-ramp or it's going to get much, much worse.
13:06The governor's words stood in stark contrast to those, including the president, who have blamed the attack on the, quote, radical left.
13:13I think we need more moral clarity right now.
13:16I hear all the time that words are violence.
13:20Words are not violence.
13:21Violence is violence.
13:22And there is one person responsible for what happened here.
13:29And that person is now in custody.
13:32And Cox took aim at all those hateful messages circulating on social media.
13:37Social media is a cancer on our society right now.
13:40And I would encourage, again, I would encourage people to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member.
13:45Go out and do good in your community.
13:47Governor Cox called the killing of Charlie Kirk a watershed moment, marking a new chapter in American history.
13:56The question is whether it is the end of a dark chapter or the beginning of an even darker one.
14:01Stephanie?
14:02Jonathan Karl for us there at the White House.
14:05For more analysis, we want to bring in former FBI agent Richard Frankel.
14:09Thank you so much, Richard, for being here.
14:11Now, video that was obtained by TMZ from moments before the shooting, you see in that video, I'm sure you're familiar with it, where you see the suspect, Tyler Robinson, walking.
14:20There it is, walking with that limp.
14:22And we heard in the pieces earlier where investigators suggested that it could be because he was concealing his weapon in his clothing.
14:29If that is the case, do you think security or anyone really could have noticed him as he walked away?
14:36I would think that something like that, that type of a walk, would stand out to someone.
14:40Yeah, it is something that's a little odd.
14:43If you are expecting something, you're going to look for that.
14:47The problem was, I don't think in this instance they were really expecting anything to happen.
14:53You know, I kind of compare that to what happened in New York City when they attacked, you know, the shooter attacked the NFL and killed the police officer.
15:01And when he walked in with the gun and no one saw the gun, even though it was out, this one, it was hidden.
15:08So it's very hard to see that.
15:09The thing that they can use, though, in the future is possibly AI technology, you know, with videos and all that.
15:15There is some technology that might have actually identified that.
15:19Wow, really?
15:20And we know that we've heard from law enforcement.
15:22They've said it's difficult to secure outdoor venues like the one at Utah Valley University.
15:28We understand about 3,000 people were in attendance.
15:30So what more can they do to make sure that these spaces are safe?
15:35This is not the first time that we've seen a shooting or an assassination attempt at an outdoor venue.
15:41Yeah.
15:42So there are several things you can do.
15:44One is they can actually require tickets and check tickets, identify people and have them go through magnetometers.
15:49That may not have solved this issue because, again, he did not go through the area of the magnetometer.
15:55Right.
15:55That being said, they can also put people out on observation areas.
16:00And I think they're going to do that now for outside events.
16:02I think you're going to see at all sporting events, all political events, you're going to see a lot more observers, maybe even sniper observers, depending on who is at the event.
16:10In other words, is the president there or political figures there?
16:14Or is it more of a sports event where you're not expecting it, but you should still have that type of security in place?
16:21Plus, I think you're going to start seeing a lot more tech, a lot more video cameras up on the roofs and people actually manning them as opposed to just having them on a screen in front of you.
16:31And then you add on that AI technology where the cameras can actually identify hostile actions and or weapons.
16:39I'm sure that would make people feel a lot more comfortable attending an event that's outdoors like this, similar to that at the university.
16:47But since the assassination, we have heard a lot from politicians and Democrats, and a lot of them are reporting death threats.
16:54We've noticed that some schools, colleges and universities are receiving hoaxes as well and malicious hoaxes.
17:02How can law enforcement respond to these threats if they're happening so often?
17:08I mean, they clearly have to treat each one as if it's real, as if it's an active situation.
17:15But how can they manage a real situation from a hoax?
17:20Well, you know, right now, everything has got to be considered an act or a potential act.
17:26You know, in the FBI, we used to say, it ain't terrorism until it ain't terrorism.
17:30In other words, we're going to treat it as a terrorist act until we know it's not.
17:33Police officers, departments are going to have to go out on these as if they're real events and determine what they are as quick as possible.
17:42And then if it is something, you move forward.
17:45If it's not something, you come back.
17:47And actually, you try to identify who's, you know, hoaxing, who's swatting you.
17:53But it's gotten it's gotten so bad that every state in the country is having hoaxing issues right now, having swatting issues.
18:02Right. And they have to treat each one seriously.
18:05You just never know.
18:06Yeah. You don't want you don't want to be that one where you said, oh, it's not anything.
18:10And then it becomes something and you could have stopped it if you had had an active police response.
18:15Right. Richard, thank you so much for coming in.
18:17Really appreciate your insights.
18:19Thank you so much.
18:20Thank you so much.
18:50They say he then drove his car at law enforcement officers.
18:54One of the ICE officers was hit by the car and dragged a significant distance.
18:58Fearing for his own life, the officer fired his weapon.
19:02The gunfire heard on nearby surveillance video.
19:06Villegas Gonzalez is shot and later pronounced dead at the hospital.
19:10I think it's a tragedy that life was lost.
19:13DHS says Villegas Gonzalez was undocumented and had a history of reckless driving.
19:18All this comes as the Trump administration ramps up ice enforcement operations nationwide, launching Operation Midway Blitz in Chicago this week.
19:26President Trump also threatening to send in the National Guard to combat crime.
19:31Chicago, everybody knows how bad it is.
19:35They should be saying, please come in.
19:37But today, President Trump announcing he will now send the National Guard to Memphis instead.
19:43Maybe I'll be the first to say it right now again.
19:46We're going to Memphis.
19:48Memphis is deeply troubled.
19:51And the mayor is happy.
19:53But late today, Memphis' mayor is saying he did not request the National Guard.
19:58I want to be clear.
19:59I did not ask for the National Guard.
20:01And I don't think it's the way to drive down crime.
20:04However, that decision has been made.
20:09Our thanks to Alex Perez.
20:10There have been multiple hoaxes and swatting incidents playing out across the country in the last 24 hours.
20:16We just touched on that a bit with former FBI agent Richard Frankel just a few moments ago.
20:21Police responding to fake threats on several college campuses.
20:25But tonight, a horrible turn when a false threat led to a real shooting at the U.S. Naval Academy in Maryland.
20:32Here's Aaron Katursky.
20:34With the country already on edge, fear and frustration as an epidemic of hoax security threats overwhelms American college campuses.
20:41And tonight, proof of how dangerous these can be.
20:44A fake threat leading to a real shooting at the U.S. Naval Academy.
20:48I'm requesting units for an EMS task force on the U.S. Naval Academy for an active shooter event.
20:54That turned out to be bogus on Thursday.
20:56But the Academy was locked down over fears the purported shooter was posing as police.
21:01In the chaos, a midshipman shot on the shoulder after confronting a security officer he thought was a gunman.
21:07It came at the end of a day that saw more than a dozen hoaxes.
21:10Many of them police say racially motivated, targeting historically black colleges and universities, along with other schools, including UMass Boston.
21:18Cops came up the staircase and they kicked the door down.
21:21They had all tactical gear on and rifles and they were like, you got to get out.
21:24There might be an active shooter.
21:26Heavily armed officers swarming the campus and seen sweeping dormitories room by room, guns drawn.
21:32One student exiting with her hands up.
21:34Authorities later determining there was no threat.
21:36And Aaron joins us now.
21:40Aaron, what's the condition of the midshipman who was shot?
21:44That midshipman is now out of the hospital tonight, Stephanie, recovering at home.
21:49That's the good news.
21:50The less good news is that law enforcement officials are really struggling to contain this swatting crisis plaguing the country.
21:57And recognizing the climate in America right now does not help.
22:02Steph?
22:02It certainly doesn't.
22:03Such a frightening situation.
22:04Aaron, thank you.
22:06Now to those Russian drones entering Poland's airspace.
22:10Tonight, President Trump suggesting the drones over Poland could have been a mistake by Russia.
22:14But Poland saying today there was no mistake.
22:17What NATO is now doing to send a message to Vladimir Putin.
22:21Here's chief global affairs correspondent Martha Raditz.
22:23Overnight, President Trump suggesting Russia's drone incursion into Poland could have been a mistake.
22:31But Poland insists it was deliberate.
22:35And tonight, NATO ramping up air defenses from the Mediterranean to the Baltics.
22:42This comes just days after more than a dozen Russian attack drones violated Poland's airspace.
22:49NATO scrambling fighter jets to shoot them down.
22:51What happened on Wednesday was not an isolated incident.
22:56Russia's recklessness in the air along our eastern flank is increasing in frequency.
23:02France, the UK and Germany, among several nations now sending additional assets to better defend NATO's eastern flank.
23:11Our thanks to Martha Raditz.
23:13Coming up here on ABC News Live Prime, the killing of Charlie Kirk has been widely circulated online.
23:19So how can adults explain it to children and protect them from graphically violent content?
23:26And we've long been told the truth is out there, right?
23:30Did scientists just find it?
23:32The discovery NASA made on Mars.
23:36And bendito sea, bendito.
23:38Blessed be Bad Bunny, who wraps up his iconic residency in Puerto Rico.
23:44Just how well did it do?
23:46Well, we'll take a look by the numbers.
23:47Welcome back.
24:02Videos of Charlie Kirk's death exist online to be consumed by anyone of any age, any time.
24:08The most graphic circulating on social media.
24:11But how should we talk to children about such scenes of violence or even keep them from seeing it at all?
24:18Here with us now is pediatrician and ABC News medical contributor Dr. Alok Patel.
24:22Good to see you, doctor.
24:23Thanks for being with us this evening.
24:25You know, I know with my kids at home, they won't see that stuff, right?
24:29No phones, no devices.
24:31We can keep a close eye on them there within the household.
24:34But how do we keep our youngest children from even coming close to this content when they're at school?
24:40If their friends have phones or they're just out somewhere else at a friend's house, how can we keep this from them?
24:47You know, Stephanie, it almost feels like an uphill battle.
24:51Parents such as yourself are doing the right thing by limiting that exposure at home.
24:55But in the real world, these videos feel like they're everywhere.
24:58We saw the Charlie Kirk video being shared millions of times immediately across multiple platforms.
25:03The stabbing death of Ukrainian refugee, Irina Zarutska, mass shootings.
25:07These seem to happen every day.
25:09So with those young kids, even if they're not on a screen, we really need to pay attention to our own consumption when that TV is on, when you're watching videos, when you're listening to the radio, even when you're having conversations, if the little ones are around you because they hear everything.
25:22And with older kids, it almost feels like we can't avoid it, given the fact that the majority of high schoolers, younger teens, they are all on social media.
25:31They're consuming that behavior and seeing that every single day, which is why it's important to address the fact and have a conversation with them.
25:38Yeah, you're absolutely right.
25:39Kids, they're so aware and they absorb everything around them.
25:42Just yesterday, I was doing a Zoom interview at home interviewing the uncle of Irina Zarutska, the young lady that was brutally attacked on that train in Charlotte.
25:51And I had told my son to wait in the other room, had him occupied, and then I saw him peek around the corner and his eyes were just big.
25:57He's like, what is she talking about?
25:59So it's so hard to keep this stuff away from them.
26:02And it's just so dark.
26:04But what signs should parents be on the lookout for when it comes to our teens, for instance, if they are in distress and they're not sharing?
26:12What are some of those signs?
26:14You know, these feelings of anxiety and fear can manifest in different ways for different kids, depending on their age.
26:23Stephanie, sometimes it's changes in sleep pattern.
26:25Kids aren't able to stay and fall asleep.
26:27Sometimes it could be emotional behaviors, such as irritability.
26:30It could actually be physical symptoms as well, headaches, stomach aches, and sometimes it's outright fear and anxiety, which is why having those conversations and asking kids how they feel and letting them feel the way they are without judgment is so incredibly important.
26:45And I want to add to parents to make sure you're checking your own stress first before you go and have that conversation with kids, because kids need to hear you come and they need that sense of security.
26:55That is really good advice.
26:56And I would imagine that there is a difference between how children and even adults process real-life violence versus the fictional violence we might see in movies or video games, right?
27:07There really is.
27:07And I'm glad you bring this up, because the reality is for younger kids, they may not actually be able to differentiate between fact and fiction.
27:15So if they see something on a movie, on television, or on a video game, it's hard to actually tease out if that's real life.
27:21Whereas with older kids, we know that they can tell the difference, and with older people, real violence is more likely to bring about fear and anxiety.
27:28So it's important to actually mitigate what people are consuming based on their age.
27:32But Stephanie, I think the overall question we have to be asking is, what is the environment we're actually letting our kids live in?
27:38The fact that 300 mass shootings have taken place already this year.
27:42Kids are seeing it, they're experiencing it, and this toxic stress is terrible for their developing brain.
27:47And so I feel like collectively, this conversation is important, and so is figuring out a way to come together and prevent these firearm violences that are the leading cause of death and injury in young people.
27:58Absolutely startling statistics.
27:59It is a frightening time.
28:01Dr. Alok Patel, thank you so much for your time and insights.
28:04Really appreciate it.
28:06Coming up here on Prime, NASA said earlier this week they've discovered the clearest sign of life on Mars.
28:12We'll tell you what they possibly found coming up.
28:15And also, how might Taylor Swift be pulled into the contentious legal battle between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni?
28:22Those details next.
28:30Welcome back.
28:31It's been a long week here on Earth.
28:33So let's look to the cosmos and talk about an incredibly exciting discovery out this week from NASA.
28:39The space agency says it has found the clearest sign of life so far on Mars.
28:44It's a rock that NASA's Perseverance rover has discovered that appears to point to ancient life on the red planet.
28:52So what exactly does all of this mean?
28:54Well, what we can learn about our planet in the process?
28:57For more, we're joined by space expert Eric Ingram to talk about this.
29:01Thank you so much for your time, Eric.
29:03You got the memo about the backgrounds, I see.
29:06We're matching.
29:08Totally coordinated.
29:10Yes, yes.
29:10So talk about what scientists have discovered here.
29:13Someone may say, oh, this is just a rock.
29:15It's just an ancient rock.
29:17But why is this so significant?
29:20Yeah.
29:21So what the Perseverance rover found is essentially exactly the kind of material it was originally sent there to find.
29:30So it landed at Jezero Crater back in February of 2021.
29:34And I believe NASA published the initial findings of this discovery back about a year ago.
29:43And it's only recently published the paper.
29:46So what these rocks have that they found are what they've dubbed speckles and leopard spots, which indicate a really complex process that is called a redox reaction, which on Earth is found in organisms that are in low oxygen environments.
30:07And so there are other ways to produce it, but that's the primary way.
30:12And with the geology and the chemistry of the things around this sample, things that are not related to life are a lot more of a long shot possibility for the sample.
30:25So it's possible that this rock could be related to life or other or life that existed on Mars at one point.
30:36Yes.
30:36So just making sure we're on the same page here.
30:40Yes.
30:40This rock is about three to three and a half billion years old.
30:43So it was a while ago.
30:45But it does give strong indications of microbial life at that time.
30:50More study is needed to really be sure.
30:54And I'm sure, you know, that analysis is going on.
30:57But obviously, if we could bring those samples back to Earth, that would be a huge boon to understanding the sample even better.
31:05OK, so if it is confirmed that there was life on Mars at some point, what does it mean for our universe?
31:10What does it mean for our planet?
31:13It's huge.
31:14I mean, humanity has always been searching out there for the next thing and for something that resembles ourselves.
31:22Right.
31:23Like we ultimately want to know whether or not we're alone in the universe.
31:26If we're able to find life, even microbial life, even ancient microbial life on a planet in our solar system, there are, you know, 100 million solar systems in this galaxy and 400 billion galaxies out there.
31:43Right. So numerically, that means it's a lot more possible that there is life all around the universe.
31:49And it's not just, you know, a very specific location here on Earth.
31:55That's all very fascinating.
31:57NASA, of course, is trying to send humans to Mars.
32:00I'm sure you've heard.
32:01Do discoveries like this one make that mission more important or even possible?
32:06It definitely moves things in the right direction, right?
32:11The more that we can know about what's going on there and the more that we know we can learn from what's going on there, the more impetus there is to make more discoveries, to put more budget and effort into these missions and into this research.
32:24And this definitely pushes it in the right direction.
32:27And if this discovery even got my geologist wife to be excited about something related to space, that's a huge sign that this is going to help the case.
32:38It certainly will.
32:39Thank you so much for your time, Eric Ingram, the smart friend we all need in our lives.
32:44Thank you so much for your time.
32:46Coming up here on Prime, Academy Award-winning actress Marianne Cotillard is the latest addition to the cast of Apple TV Plus' hit series, The Morning Show.
32:55She'll be with us right here in studio.
32:57Plus, a look at Prince Harry's surprise trip to Ukraine.
33:02And up next, a sneak peek at my 2020 episode, which is airing tonight.
33:08First comes love, then comes murder.
33:10It airs tonight right here on ABC and streams tomorrow on Hulu.
33:13Here's a clip.
33:16I looked out the window, and I saw a police car pull up.
33:21And I saw my dad and a police officer get out of the car.
33:25And I said, oh, God, what the hell's happening?
33:28My dad is like talking.
33:30He was just talking, but everything was in slow motion.
33:33He's like, Lauren, your mom's been in an accident.
33:37I think it was saying like a bus accident or she got in a car.
33:40Like, you know, I wasn't thinking the work of that.
33:44And then he goes, Mom, she's no longer with us anymore.
33:50I was like, what?
33:54And so I ran into my bedroom.
33:56And he screamed, like, screamed, screamed.
33:59Like, what you hear on, like, the horror movies.
34:02I get deep down into your stomach, scream.
34:05And I said, I don't understand.
34:07It shook the office.
34:11I had to make that phone call.
34:14Brett calls the office.
34:16He said, you're not going to believe this, Linda,
34:18but Leslie's dead.
34:20And he couldn't tell me anymore because he didn't know anymore.
34:23I saw a number of police cars.
34:27I saw an ambulance.
34:28I was just shocked.
34:30Who would want to murder such a wonderful person?
34:43It takes a special kind of superstar
34:45to sell out 30 straight shows all in his own backyard.
34:49But for Puerto Rico y pa'l mundo,
34:51the world and beyond, that star is Bad Bunny.
34:54Tonight, we're letting you know the economic boom
34:56sparked by his summer residency.
34:59No me quiero ir de aquí in Puerto Rico, by the numbers.
35:03The 30-day Puerto Rican residencia,
35:05which started July 11th and goes through the end of this weekend,
35:08and what many know as El Choli,
35:10Coluceo de Puerto Rico, José Miguel Agrelo,
35:13served as more than just a concert experience
35:16for fangoers and locals on the island.
35:18According to Moody's analytics,
35:20Bad Bunny's 30 shows is expected to have
35:22a direct economic impact of $250 million
35:25to La Isla, the island.
35:28All right, let's talk about the crowds.
35:30They were massive.
35:31It estimated that more than 600,000 visitors,
35:34many coming from the States, Europe, and Latin America,
35:37showed up over the course of the residency.
35:39More than 48,000 hotels booked.
35:42Short-term rentals are up, too.
35:44August bookings jumped 42% compared to last year,
35:47and September's are up 61%.
35:50All right, thought we might have
35:51some Bad Bunny music behind us.
35:52We don't.
35:53We're going to keep going.
35:54Local hotels sold around 25,000 special concert packages,
35:58bundling tickets with tours and hotel stays,
36:00a clear sign of just how strong demand has been.
36:04For locals, more than 2,000 temporary jobs
36:07were created across the island
36:08in hospitality, event staffing, and retail,
36:11offering a much-needed income and opportunity
36:13during what's usually considered
36:15Puerto Rico's slow season.
36:16And nearly 10 ABC News staffers attended the concert,
36:21none of which are Puerto Rican, by the way,
36:23but that is okay.
36:24Everybody is welcome.
36:25And guess what?
36:26They did not want to leave.
36:30And here to speak more about the impact
36:32Bad Bunny has had, not just in Puerto Rico,
36:35but on the world,
36:36thanks to his 30-day Puerto Rican residency,
36:38No Me Quiero Oide Aqui,
36:39his culture and music journalist, Suzy Exposito.
36:41Thank you so much, Suzy, for joining us here on Prime.
36:45All right.
36:46Thank you for having me.
36:46Bad Bunny expert right here.
36:48Okay, you.
36:49That's you.
36:50Yeah, so Bad Bunny,
36:51he refused to leave Puerto Rico,
36:53which makes No Me Quiero Oide Aqui,
36:55not just a first-of-its-kind residency,
36:58but a political, cultural, and emotional declaration.
37:02So what does it mean for just the culture
37:05and just music in general
37:08for him to just stand up this residency on the island?
37:12I think it was just a beautiful recap
37:16of how powerful he's become as an artist.
37:21I mean, this is someone who went from being a grocery bagger
37:25and a SoundCloud trap artist
37:27to a Grammy-winning musician.
37:28And now he's a movie star.
37:31He's been in movies like Caught Stealing
37:34and Happy Gilmore 2, which came out this summer.
37:36And I think that his Puerto Rico residency
37:39is a radical return to his roots.
37:42You hear it in the sounds.
37:44You see it in the costuming.
37:46The set design is phenomenal.
37:48And, you know, there's a contrast
37:50between where people live in Puerto Rico.
37:53So it's the little pink house, La Casita.
37:56And then on the other side of the stadium
37:59is Puerto Rico in all of its wilderness.
38:02You know, like it's very lush.
38:06You know, he has a salsa band, a Plena band come out.
38:11You know, they come out of the wilderness
38:13and they're just really like rallying everybody
38:17in a huge celebration, not just of Benito himself,
38:21but of Puerto Rico and its cultural and musical legacy.
38:27And you just mentioned the stages there
38:28during the residency, La Casita y el Yunque.
38:32You know, it's not just a backdrop.
38:34They're fully curated visual narrative roots
38:38of a stage, right?
38:39And what does that mean for just preserving the memory
38:43and the nostalgia of this album?
38:46What has that done for the fans?
38:48I think that in Puerto Rico, there is like a,
38:56I think Bad Bunny has galvanized a lot of Puerto Ricans,
39:00not just those who like live in the archipelago,
39:03but those who live all over the world
39:06to really embrace their heritage
39:08and to be proud of where they're from.
39:10But also I think for Latinos of all stripes,
39:14like I think there's a lot that we can really relate to,
39:19just like the togetherness.
39:22I mean, the way that I see multiple generations
39:24at this show, seeing people as old as like 80,
39:31you know, and they're with like, you know, teenagers
39:33and everyone is getting their life.
39:36You know, it's a, just like a testament to how,
39:41I don't know, like, I don't even want to,
39:44I don't want to like resort to a stereotype about us,
39:48but I don't know, we're really festive people.
39:51Yeah.
39:51And I think that's something that really united everybody.
39:56And clearly these, the Casita and Ayunque,
39:59they're not just stages, right?
40:00They're not, they're, they're not just stages for performing.
40:02It's just preserving our roots.
40:04So we always hear about artists putting places on the map, right?
40:07But what happens when the place was always there
40:10and the artist just holds up the mirror?
40:12It's exactly what Bad Bunny's doing.
40:15Exactly.
40:15That's really beautifully said.
40:17I think that he wanted to create a special place
40:21for Puerto Ricans, especially that first weekend.
40:24It was Puerto Ricans only,
40:26and then a select few members of the press
40:29that were able to attend those shows.
40:32And I think it is special in light of just how much, like,
40:37Puerto Rico has sustained over the years,
40:40whether it's climate change or gentrification,
40:43you know, problems with the electric grid.
40:47Like, I think that people really, really needed this.
40:52Yeah.
40:52We know the album touches heavily on the constant change
40:54to Puerto Rican society,
40:56from gentrification to displacement,
40:58even government neglect,
41:00and some of the topics that you mentioned there.
41:02So this has been huge for the island
41:03and really for the world.
41:05He's been able to touch so many different people
41:06from different backgrounds.
41:08I have to tell you, I've got major FOMO.
41:10I went to buy some tickets and they were sold out.
41:12I'm so late to the game.
41:15But he's going overseas soon,
41:16so there's still hope.
41:17Suzy, thank you so much for your time.
41:20Really appreciate it.
41:22Thank you for having me.
41:24More than a dozen former college basketball players
41:26are accused of breaking a major rule.
41:29The government is looking into AI companions
41:31and a music superstar could be deposed
41:33in the Blake Lively-Justin Baldoni lawsuit.
41:36These stories and more in tonight's rundown.
41:42The NCAA says it's investigating
41:4413 former men's basketball student-athletes
41:47from six different schools
41:48for alleged sports betting violations.
41:51The organization said the cases included
41:53student-athletes betting on and against their teams,
41:56sharing information with third parties,
41:58and manipulating game results.
42:00The NCAA did not name the student-athletes involved,
42:03but said none of them are enrolled at the schools
42:05where they allegedly committed the violations.
42:09The Federal Trade Commission says
42:11it's investigating AI chatbots
42:13that act as companions,
42:15looking into how they may be impacting
42:17children and teenagers.
42:18The FTC issued orders to various social media
42:21and AI companies asking how they work
42:24to prevent their chatbots
42:26from harming younger consumers.
42:28The move comes with lawsuits
42:29recently brought against two AI companies
42:32by families of teens who died by suicide,
42:34claiming the company's chatbots
42:36bore responsibility for their deaths.
42:40Preliminary consumer sentiment data says
42:42Americans' confidence in the economy
42:45is continuing to fall.
42:46The University of Michigan survey found
42:48sentiment decreased just under three points
42:50from August to its lowest levels since May.
42:53The report said respondents expressed concern
42:56over tariffs and possible long-term inflation.
43:00Prince Harry made a surprise trip to Ukraine
43:03to support wounded troops today.
43:05That's his second visit this year.
43:07The Duke of Sussex arrived in Kiev on an overnight train
43:10and spent time with hundreds of Ukrainian veterans.
43:13The trip comes immediately after his recent engagements
43:16in the UK, which included a reunion
43:18with his father, King Charles.
43:22Will Taylor Swift be pulled into the long legal battle
43:25between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni?
43:27Baldoni's lawyer said in a court filing
43:29that Swift had agreed to sit in a deposition
43:32in late October.
43:33A lawyer for the pop star said that was not the case,
43:36adding that she would be available after October 20th
43:40if forced to give a deposition.
43:42Lively is suing Baldoni over allegations
43:44of sexual harassment she said happened
43:46as Baldoni directed and starred with her in the film
43:49It Ends With Us.
43:51Allegations Baldoni denies.
43:53A representative for Baldoni declined to comment
43:55to ABC News.
43:56Representatives for Lively and Swift
43:58have not yet responded.
44:01Mexican singer-songwriter Karin Leon
44:03is about to make history in Las Vegas.
44:06The Grammy-winning artist announced three shows
44:08at the Las Vegas Sphere next year
44:10to mark the city's annual Mexican Independence Day celebration,
44:14which will make him the first Latino artist
44:17to play the new venue.
44:18Those shows scheduled exactly one year from now
44:22on September 11th, 12th, and 13th of 2026.
44:29You might know Marianne Cotillard,
44:31best for her roles in Christopher Nolan's Inception,
44:33and the Batman film The Dark Knight Rises.
44:36Of course, before all of that,
44:38she won the Academy Award for Best Actress
44:41for her role in La Vie en Rose.
44:43And now she is one of the newest actors
44:45to join the cast of Apple TV Plus' The Morning Show.
44:48The show taking a dramatic,
44:50yet often comedic, look behind the curtain
44:52of morning television.
44:53Take a look at this clip.
44:54We did a fan dance up and down Wall Street
44:58to borrow money.
44:59Then we went on a shopping spree
45:00to buy the biggest sports event on earth.
45:03I swam in the sand
45:05and literally swallowed.
45:07To close this deal,
45:09we're out of money and favors.
45:11If we lose the Olympics,
45:13we lose the network.
45:15They were asking for my help.
45:16You would have done the exact same thing.
45:18I just don't want us to fail.
45:21Marion joins us now here in studio.
45:24Thank you so much for being here.
45:25Thank you for having me.
45:27We know some of the writers and actors
45:29on The Morning Show
45:30spent some time in an actual newsroom
45:32to get a feel for how it is in real life.
45:35Did you spend any time in a newsroom
45:38to get that newsroom experience?
45:41Well, no, I didn't prepare this way,
45:46but I was a big fan of the show.
45:48And I watched the two first seasons
45:52in three days,
45:53so I got really obsessed.
45:54And we saw in that clip
45:56your character's pretty fiery.
45:58So tell us about her and the character.
46:02So her name is Celine Dumont.
46:05She's the new board president at UBA.
46:09And she has a lot on her plate.
46:12She is at a very powerful place in that world.
46:16There are a lot of expectations from her.
46:20And she also deals with what she is
46:24and who she is.
46:26Yeah.
46:27You've had so many roles on stage and in film.
46:30How has TV been different for you?
46:33How does that compare to your previous roles?
46:36It's very different
46:37because when I prepare for a movie,
46:40you know, a movie,
46:41you have the script,
46:41you have the whole story.
46:43There's the beginning, the end.
46:44You have this possibility
46:47with all the material that you have
46:49to create the arc of emotion of a character.
46:51And I didn't know that I would start the show,
46:56shooting the show with only two,
46:58four episodes that I had read.
47:02And I started the show.
47:03So I had to build the character
47:04based on what I had from those four episodes
47:09and the background story that was given to me.
47:12But I didn't know where she would go.
47:14I didn't know what would happen to the character.
47:16I didn't know what kind of relationship
47:18she would develop with the other characters.
47:22So it was, I was a little anxious to start that way
47:27because it was really like jumping into the unknown.
47:30And even though sometimes I would read the new script,
47:34like episode six,
47:35and I would be like,
47:36oh my God, if I had known this,
47:37I would have played this differently.
47:40And then I looked back
47:42and I thought it was also interesting
47:43to have a different kind of, you know,
47:46approach to the role and the work.
47:49How was it entering the group
47:51that's kind of already been in place
47:53for the last couple of years?
47:54How was it working with Reese Witherspoon
47:56and Jennifer Aniston and the rest of the cast?
47:59You know, I think I knew,
48:01I expected to have an amazing experience.
48:03So smart.
48:04It's so, I think, important to share those stories
48:10that are very entertaining
48:12and at the same time,
48:13very deep in questioning about society,
48:16about politics, about human feelings.
48:19And I knew that I would be welcome.
48:21I knew that I would have an amazing experience.
48:25I knew that Jen Aniston and Reese Witherspoon,
48:29I could feel that they were like hearted people,
48:32warm and smart.
48:34And so I expected all this.
48:37And when I got there,
48:38it was my journey and my experience
48:41was even like more vibrant
48:44and greater than what I had expected.
48:49That was really,
48:50that was truly an amazing experience
48:53that I had with all those people.
48:55That is so lovely to hear.
48:57I'm sure so many new storylines
48:59to watch and to entertain us.
49:01And I mean, just like in the real world,
49:03there's plenty of storylines to go around.
49:05Thank you so much for your time.
49:06Well, thank you for having me.
49:07Lovely to meet you.
49:08Lovely to meet you too.
49:09Season four of The Morning Show premieres
49:11Wednesday, September 17th on Apple TV+.
49:14And that is our show for this hour.
49:16I'm Stephanie Ramos.
49:18Stay tuned to ABC News Live for more context
49:20and analysis of the day's top stories.
49:22Thank you so much for streaming with us.
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