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00:01Good morning.
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00:03What's up, guys?
00:04What's going on?
00:05Not too much.
00:06You got reads, Dave, or?
00:07Yep.
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01:37No, I'm hearing voices back.
01:38Is that for us or no?
01:40I didn't know what that was.
01:41Okay.
01:41Anyway.
01:43Boy, busy.
01:44We haven't been together the last couple weeks.
01:46Fucking shitloads.
01:47Toughest happened last night.
01:48I haven't been home since our last unnamed.
01:50I'm just getting work to the bone.
01:52It's okay.
01:53We're not being accused.
01:54Yeah.
01:54Where are you right now?
01:55I am at Foxwoods where.
01:58Yeah.
01:59Congratulations.
02:00I mean, come on.
02:02Only morons like Ryan Whitney.
02:04That was a bad pick.
02:05Would never sit here and doubt.
02:08There's one thing that I'm pretty good at over the years, decades, at Parcel.
02:13When I say I can do something, I can do it.
02:16I'm not one that's like I can't dunk a basketball.
02:19Once I was doing the hockey challenge, my reflexes went.
02:22I stopped doing that.
02:24I knew I was going to bury this kid.
02:26I knew I was going to bury him.
02:28I knew I was going to bully him.
02:30I knew 20 grand was too much for him.
02:33I knew everything that was going to happen was going to happen.
02:36And I felt bad for him.
02:40This has been his only thing he's done for two decades.
02:44He's the poker guy.
02:45He goes to the World Series of Poker.
02:46He has people actually fund him like he's some great player.
02:51I haven't played in 10, 15 years.
02:56I sat down and I crushed him in every conceivable way and took his soul.
03:03And, Whitney, we play that clip of – do we have that clip of Ryan talking about it?
03:10Is that readily available?
03:11I saw it the other day.
03:12He got in front of it.
03:13Let's put it this way.
03:16If you wanted to make a little content piece of a four-man big money table of Nate, Smitty, Mincy, and you, you ain't winning.
03:25Why?
03:26Because you stink at poker.
03:29You don't know how to play poker.
03:30Why do you say that?
03:32I used to think anyone could win a poker tournament.
03:34They know what they're doing.
03:35It's a different game.
03:36You don't think there's some sort of relation to the three people who claim to play poker at our company?
03:42You know, the three biggest morons we got?
03:44I think you could be a moron in real life.
03:46Adam Smith, Adam Smith, a.k.a. Smitty, is dumb.
03:51Okay, listen.
03:53R.I.P.
03:54You never – hand up.
03:56I was wrong.
03:57You dusted him.
03:57You were dead wrong.
03:58You made a fool.
03:59You dusted him.
03:59But you – I learned on the broadcast the first night, you never said that you played party poker to pay your rent for years.
04:09I don't know where he came up with rent.
04:10I paid Rene's nails.
04:12Like, I played party poker.
04:13Well, they said on the broadcast he paid his rent playing party poker.
04:16That was 100 years ago, though, no?
04:17Yeah, but that's – I thought he never – he made it sound like he, like, never played poker.
04:22I've never said that.
04:24And by the way, not only that, we did the tournament the day before, and I lasted longer than Mincy and Nate.
04:31Like, these guys are fucking morons.
04:36I have no brain for poker, none.
04:38When they say that – when they say last night that Nate had the worst fold in history, I mean, is that accurate?
04:43Like, what is the – yeah.
04:45It was just –
04:46Well, Dave, though, in the interview after – what's up, Nate?
04:49In the interview after, Nate, I'll start off first question.
04:53You said you were proud of the king-king fold.
04:58What the fuck were you proud about?
05:00Is that the one I'm talking about, Wade?
05:02Yeah.
05:02Yeah, so essentially what it was, there was very – there was a lot in the pot, and Nate had to risk very little to see what was going on.
05:11But all I had to do, which I knew the whole time, is just look at the guy, and he'd crumble.
05:16I had it like that.
05:18To answer your question, Kirk, yes, it was a horrific fold.
05:20Basically, what happened there is up to that point, any time Dave showed any sort of strength, he just had it.
05:29Like, every single time, he took that line.
05:32So, like, he raised flop, he bet turn, he bet river, and that's why I, like, sat there and laughed for a couple minutes, because it's such a stupid fold.
05:39But it's like Dave, to that point, had never not had it when he did that.
05:43So I was like, all right, I guess I'm just folding here.
05:45It was a stupid fold, but that was the line of thinking.
05:47But on that one, it was $1,000 more, right?
05:52Nate had three or four chances.
05:55Go ahead, Dave.
05:56Nate had three or four chances to end this thing.
05:59He just couldn't do it, because I just look at him, and he – listen, I've heard people be like, well, $20,000 means more than Nate.
06:06I knew all that going in.
06:08I knew every advantage I had, and I bullied the poor guy and stole his soul.
06:13Look, I gave Dave the utmost credit.
06:17For the first hour, he had no idea how to play.
06:20I was up $30,000 to his $10,000 extremely quickly, but he adapted, he adjusted, he figured out how to raise, which was huge.
06:28And, yeah, he beat me.
06:30Like, he beat me.
06:31Like, there's no really – I'm gracious in losing.
06:33Like, there's not really anything else you can say.
06:35Like, we played.
06:36It was a good match.
06:37It was a fun match.
06:38It went for three and a half hours.
06:39It did great numbers.
06:41I'm glad Dave finally played me.
06:42There's nothing else you can really say, right?
06:44Like, people lose all the time, like, especially at Barstool.
06:48Like, you go into competition, you lose.
06:50You tip your cap, you move on.
06:52I don't know what else I can really say.
06:52What about this thing, though, where, like, you can –
06:54This was 15 years ago.
06:54I really wanted to play.
06:55We played.
06:56I lost.
06:57Like, that's it.
06:57What about this thing now where, like, you can get your money back, though?
07:00This feels like –
07:00Well, that's because I feel so bad for him.
07:02This feels like charity to me, Nate.
07:04I don't know.
07:04He is.
07:05He's charity.
07:06No, he is charity.
07:08No, he's absolutely charity.
07:09I thought you did.
07:10All right, yeah.
07:10Kirk, he didn't ask for it, but he's charity.
07:13I look at him and I see charity.
07:15I see somebody who built his entire existence on being this poker player.
07:19I came in and I stomped on him.
07:21I stomped on him.
07:22I destroyed him.
07:23I did everything that I did in his circles, his poker circles.
07:27Every time somebody looks at him, they're going to laugh.
07:30And it may not be outwardly, but inwardly they're going to laugh at him.
07:34He's had everything stolen from him last night.
07:37Oh, Jesus, Nate.
07:38Go ahead.
07:38You love horse racing, right?
07:39You love it.
07:40You're never going to stop betting horses, but you're horrific at it.
07:43That's how I am with poker.
07:45I love poker.
07:46I play poker multiple times a week.
07:48I love poker.
07:48But we have never heard this.
07:49You're horrific at it.
07:50I've never heard you say, Nate, before that you're terrible, though.
07:52This is a new angle.
07:53Sorry?
07:54Yes.
07:54I was backing you based on how good you were, I thought.
07:57I broke him.
07:58You were terrible the whole time?
07:59I didn't know this.
08:00Look, I took him and I broke him all my knee.
08:03I can go to Saratoga and bet horses and beat Dave in betting horses.
08:07It doesn't make me better at betting horses than him.
08:10I think if we played a best of seven, I would win the best of seven.
08:15Don't do this.
08:17Don't do this.
08:17Dave.
08:18Well, I don't have $20,000 more.
08:20You might get it back, Nate.
08:23Who knows?
08:24I don't love the analogy of the horse, the wild animal running versus the skills.
08:29Also, Nate, I don't want to speak for Dave.
08:31No, no, no.
08:31Right, right.
08:32It's Dave's passion.
08:33My passion is better.
08:34I've always said I'm terrible at betting horses.
08:36But, Nate, I don't like Dave has been saying for years that he's this great gambler.
08:39Like, quite the opposite, I think, Dave.
08:41No?
08:42No, I'm awful at betting horses.
08:43Yeah, but you've been saying for years.
08:44We lose every time.
08:45If we went back to the last time you were here with us talking about this, you were like,
08:47I'll kick your ass.
08:48You're fucking terrible.
08:49So, I mean, you are now singing a different song.
08:52I thought I would beat Dave.
08:53Like, obviously, I thought I would beat Dave.
08:55I was in control for a good portion of the match as well.
08:58But, that being said.
08:59But you're mentally just a midget.
09:01Because here's the thing, Nate.
09:03Like, for the first hour or whatever, I was getting shitty cards.
09:07You were up $30,000 to $10,000.
09:08I didn't quit.
09:09I knew how weak you were.
09:11It's like, I'm eventually going to get a couple things.
09:13And I'm going to break this kid like a twig.
09:15And that's what I did.
09:16And when I got the lead on you, you just quit.
09:19You're like, I am in here against a superior being.
09:23I have no chance.
09:24I'm just going to fall, fall.
09:26I can't do anything.
09:27You gave up.
09:27You hear the announcers, Nate?
09:31Sorry?
09:32Have you re-watched the broadcast and heard the announcers as you were quitting?
09:36Because, listen.
09:36I'm rooting for you as hard as.
09:38They were fucking assholes.
09:40Well, Nate.
09:40Here's the thing, though.
09:41As Dave says, you were blatantly quitting.
09:45Like, you were like, this is over.
09:46I'm done.
09:47And it was like.
09:48The announcers.
09:48Like, even Mincy.
09:49You know what he said?
09:50He said, this is not a time for revisionist history.
09:53Like, it was the clearest thing he's ever said.
09:55And it was just obvious you were quitting.
09:57And I'm like, how is he quitting?
09:58He was.
09:59Dave was in the same spot as you.
10:01I broke him.
10:02I absolutely.
10:03I don't.
10:03I've never so thoroughly broken a human.
10:07I felt bad.
10:08I didn't even want to gloat.
10:10I was just a dead body.
10:12Gushing blood.
10:13I don't think folding like six deuce off is quitting.
10:16I think.
10:17Like, I was just folding.
10:17It was your attitude.
10:19Yeah.
10:20I don't know.
10:20Poker name.
10:21But the body language was bad.
10:23The body language was bad.
10:24It's not like I punted.
10:24Like, it's not like I just, like, shoved six deuce off.
10:27Like, I think that's kind of silly to say that.
10:28No, but you didn't even try to make a move.
10:29You were just, like.
10:31No, I didn't.
10:32I just ran into it.
10:33You were in the movie.
10:34You were Braveheart, except you were yelling mercy.
10:37When he wouldn't yell mercy at the end, you were yelling for mercy.
10:40You're like, just put me out of my misery.
10:41It wasn't freedom.
10:43It was oppression.
10:45Six deuces.
10:46He screams at the end of Braveheart.
10:48I'm not, like, arguing.
10:50Like, Dave beat me.
10:51Like, he played well.
10:52He played better than I expected him to play.
10:54Like, I don't know what you want me to do.
10:55Like, come in here, like, off.
10:57There's nothing you can do.
10:58You're a broken man.
10:59No, I like saying you got him in a best of seven.
11:02I like that.
11:02Well, the big difference is you're now saying you're a lousy player, where that was not
11:06what you were saying.
11:07Well, I mean, I think the tape shows it, Kirk.
11:09Yeah, it was not good.
11:10I don't know why you're better than me, but it was, yeah.
11:12Are you still going to go solicit donations from the office to sponsor you in Vegas?
11:17I guess you should be thrown in jail for that.
11:20I think you should go to Vegas, Dave.
11:21That's worse than Madoff.
11:23All right.
11:25It's worse than Safe Moon.
11:26It is.
11:27Hey, let me go to Vegas with your money.
11:30I can't beat a guy who hasn't played in 10 years.
11:33I would say that was the hardest part of it.
11:34It's like this 20K, the 5K he got me in Safe Moon, the 5K he got me in Jail Stool.
11:40So I'm down 30K to him.
11:42It's not just the 20.
11:43That's the part that hurts the most.
11:44I was trying to recoup those losses, but that's not bad.
11:48By the way, I said that from day one, that the money is going to play a huge factor in
11:55how you play.
11:56And you were so tight.
11:57I mean, it was, I've never seen, I honestly, it takes a lot for me to be so right and then
12:04feel so bad.
12:05And I don't like you, but I felt bad for you.
12:08First of all, yes, you do.
12:10And second of all, I can't sit here and cry poor.
12:13Like, I have plenty of Bitcoin.
12:15Like, if Bitcoin goes up, made it back.
12:17So like, I wouldn't have played with 20K if I couldn't afford 20K.
12:21Is it nice to have 20 more thousand dollars in your bank account?
12:24Of course.
12:24I would have loved to move to a nicer apartment.
12:26But like, let's not ask.
12:28I mean, that's a pretty big, that's a pretty big factor in your life that you're stuck in
12:36a little closet wherever you are, because you don't have the 20 grand to upscale, to
12:42have windows in your bedroom.
12:44That sounds bad.
12:46Have a nice apartment.
12:47Oh, to get him off, I got it.
12:51I like Nate.
12:52I do too.
12:53I enjoy it.
12:54That was good content for you, Nate.
12:55Good job.
12:56That was good content.
12:57But I'll tell you, to hear Mincy be able to, Mincy was crushing him.
13:02He was always like, man up, Nate.
13:04You got a man up.
13:05And I'm like, oh, this is a disaster.
13:07Dave's got him.
13:08Mincy's burying him.
13:09The announcers, they were disgusted.
13:13Disgusted.
13:13They said it was the worst fold they've ever seen.
13:16That's what I was saying.
13:17I like the idea that if Nate wins, he gets out of that apartment with his four roommates
13:21in their one bathroom, a clogged toilet.
13:24That was unbelievable.
13:25I got plenty of money.
13:2720 grand doesn't mean a lot.
13:29Would it have been nice to be able to finally get a nicer apartment, move out?
13:32Yeah, it would.
13:33I'm living in a hostel.
13:37It was unbelievable.
13:38Well, congratulations.
13:40He had you.
13:41I'll go back to my thing.
13:42I mean, these guys who play poker first, they're inherently stupid people.
13:47Like, even Mincy, he's a computer.
13:48I was at his table.
13:50He doesn't read people.
13:51He doesn't play poker.
13:52He does math.
13:53Like, that's all he's doing.
13:54And that, I guess, is a way to play it.
13:57But, you know, I was bullying Mincy at her table.
14:00Yeah.
14:01Jesus.
14:02How about this?
14:02In Nate's defense, like, the night before and your match, it was good content.
14:08I was watching both.
14:09I thought it was going to be boring.
14:10I don't know anything about poker.
14:12I just, the human element of it was interesting.
14:14It was just watching.
14:15It was funny watching it change.
14:17You could feel it in the air.
14:19Like, you could see it crumble, which was great.
14:20I was like, Dave, I'm watching your match, but, like, I'm doing things.
14:23So, I'm going, you're down big.
14:24I checked 20 minutes later.
14:26Finally, I look, you're even.
14:27Then I see, like, an hour later, you're up.
14:29I'm like, oh, my God.
14:31What happened to this guy?
14:32And I guess, turns out, folding King-King, and then what did he have?
14:37Top pair with the Queen-Jack when you had nothing?
14:40He had a couple chances.
14:43I think three where I was all in, and he was in the lead, and he just couldn't pull the trigger on it.
14:50He just couldn't.
14:51Like, one of them, I thought, was the most obvious.
14:53He's like, I haven't looked at my cards.
14:56And I was like, are you being serious?
14:57And I didn't see him look.
14:58He's like, yeah.
14:59And I just, I'm like, all right, I'm all in.
15:01He had an ace.
15:02I had King-High.
15:04And he had a big lead, so I don't take a, it would have been over then.
15:09He just, everything I thought about him came true.
15:13Everything I think about poker came true.
15:16And he got steamrolled.
15:18And he'll never be the same.
15:20Hey, this is his identity, his livelihood.
15:23He is going to be the punchline wherever he goes for these tournaments.
15:26So, it's terrible.
15:28And he's living in Harlem.
15:29Let's talk about this, let's talk about this Nadeau-Rico thing.
15:34You were there.
15:36I mean, were you, was the first, like, at some point, Rico was just going to punch somebody in the face.
15:41Yeah, I don't want that to happen.
15:43I know, well, well, but you put him in these situations, like, it's going to happen eventually.
15:48It's like, like, if he drilled him last night, Nadeau doesn't work for the company.
15:51He's not fired for that.
15:53You can't fire Rico for that.
15:55No way.
15:57What?
15:58You can't fire Rico if he punches Nadeau yesterday.
16:00Yeah, I can.
16:01I think I can.
16:02You are saying, man.
16:03That would be, and you, and what genius had them sitting next to each other?
16:09Like, it took an almost brawl to change him to the other end of the table.
16:13I did.
16:14I changed it.
16:14First of all, I don't stop it.
16:16I don't put my foot in and be like, no, don't do it.
16:19But I have absolutely nothing to do with scheduling it.
16:23I didn't invite him to do the poker tournament.
16:26Pick him.
16:26This is Pledge Master Dan and Jackie Tables.
16:29Now, I could, I, like, do I know that Rico's going to go that crazy right off the bat?
16:35Yes, yes, yes.
16:36No, not like that.
16:37Oh, come on.
16:38You think it's the possibility of it?
16:43Maybe.
16:43Maybe I just forget how insane he is.
16:45Dave, Dave, Dave.
16:45Dave.
16:47I mean.
16:47You're going to sit here and try to tell the audience and your two co-hosts you didn't
16:51think he'd go that crazy off the bat.
16:54Like, look at your face right now.
16:56Off the bat, I didn't.
16:58And I'll say this.
17:00People said, oh, I barely touched him.
17:03When you have a hatred for somebody, they can't even, the little touch of the forearm
17:08is enough.
17:09That is, that's bullshit.
17:11That's bullshit.
17:12Yeah, I don't know because I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth here because I don't
17:16want Rico to hit him.
17:17I was actually like, Rico, relax.
17:19I was really, but at the same time, it's just a once in a generation rivalry.
17:24It's like really hard not to see two rivals.
17:29Like, Nadeau is just as crazy.
17:31Nadeau now wants to fight him and rough around.
17:33I'm getting texted.
17:34What's a slit his throat?
17:36He's like, I'm done talking about him, but I want to slit his throat.
17:41He also is mad that there's, where's Gaz?
17:44He's so stupid that he sends Gaz a text that he thinks they're going to be ready.
17:49This is for him to do.
17:50What is being read?
17:50Today.
17:517-0, uh, oh, it must have been yesterday.
17:53Bro, between us.
17:55First of all, how dumb are you?
17:56Nothing's between you and Gaz.
17:57I'm a retard.
17:58Jesus.
17:59Bro, between us.
18:01Can you please take that gay video down?
18:03I guess Quig's made an edit.
18:04I haven't even seen it.
18:06You'd have to ask McCarthy and Quig's.
18:07Those guys control their accounts.
18:09That's where it came from.
18:10I can't wait to have that.
18:11I can't have that gay shit out there.
18:14People think that bullshit is real.
18:16Gay Pat.
18:16And then Gaz wrote back.
18:18Gay Pat texted me intrigued.
18:21He replied, bro, this isn't funny.
18:24Like, they're just so, like, you think Nandu is the sane one, but he's equally insane.
18:31Oh, he's crazy.
18:32It's.
18:33Now, I talked to Rico yesterday.
18:35And I don't know who's who.
18:36This is actually, like.
18:43Yo.
18:44Is this the edit?
18:45Yeah.
18:46Yeah.
18:48Because, and Nandu's right.
18:49It makes it look like he's really, like, he's standing up to get more there.
18:53Yeah.
18:53He looks gay.
18:54That's real.
18:55I can't have that out there.
18:56He's kissing with more passion.
18:59These guys are just.
19:01I'll say, like, Rico, like, I guess I'm on Rico's side, but, like, then Rico will talk
19:05about his, they do sister and his parents.
19:08It's like, well, if I may do.
19:09I think he's the only one to say that family stuff, too.
19:12I don't think Nandu said that.
19:13Rico is a total asshole.
19:16Total douchebag.
19:17Scumbag with it, too.
19:18Yeah.
19:18Total piece of shit.
19:20Rico is a piece of shit.
19:22We all kind of like him.
19:23He's an absolute piece of shit.
19:25Yeah.
19:25I don't like him that much.
19:27But, yeah.
19:27Yeah.
19:27I don't.
19:28I don't understand.
19:29I don't.
19:29Yeah.
19:30So, are they going to fight rough and rough?
19:31Those are places nobody should go.
19:32He met Josh Richards.
19:34Josh Richards at the poker term.
19:35He never met him.
19:36He's like, oh, Rico's a nice guy.
19:37I'm like, he's not.
19:38He's actually a total asshole.
19:39He's being nice to you because he thinks maybe you're somebody you should respect.
19:43But, trust me, he's one of the worst guys to ever live.
19:45And he is.
19:47Yeah.
19:48I don't.
19:48I don't.
19:49I don't agree with that.
19:50I don't agree with that.
19:52I mean, the things he says.
19:53It wasn't he, like, bringing up his dead dad and stuff.
19:55I mean, he's just a total cocksucker.
19:57Yeah.
19:58I mean, I'd do that.
19:58But, yeah.
19:58I get your point, though.
20:00Yeah.
20:00Yeah.
20:01And then he does the opposite.
20:03He'd be like, integrity, men of honor.
20:06Don't talk.
20:06Some things are big.
20:07He's, listen, I like him.
20:09But he's a dirtball.
20:10He's an absolute dirtball dirtbag.
20:13So, basically, eventually one of them, like, is going to kill the other one, like, recorded
20:18on one of these shows.
20:19Like, that's.
20:20Dave may say he doesn't want it.
20:21I don't want that to happen.
20:22I don't know if that's true.
20:24It's good numbers, though.
20:26That's the end.
20:27I really hope it doesn't happen.
20:29But it could.
20:30Yeah.
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21:07By the way, the last thing on this Rico thing, we're at Foxwoods.
21:10They're being great hosts.
21:12There's some lady from Foxwoods in the room.
21:16Like...
21:16Yeah, but do you think that's going to...
21:18He's not even...
21:20No, I just...
21:21What is going through her mind?
21:22Like, oh...
21:23While this is going on, I'm sorry.
21:24Yeah, I think you meant...
21:25Yeah.
21:25Yeah.
21:25No, like, hey...
21:27Again, you're putting him...
21:29It's like when you guys get me worked up about the invitation or something, you're putting
21:33him in a situation where he's going to act crazy.
21:37It's your fault.
21:38He's crazy.
21:39And sitting him next to the guy.
21:39Yeah, it's Dan's fault and your fault.
21:41Like, you're asking somebody crazy not to be crazy.
21:44Do I have the same level of fault even if I had nothing to do with setting it up?
21:48Well, I think once you see the two empty chairs...
21:51I could have stopped it.
21:52But then you're playing Angel Dave, Devil Dave...
21:55Oh, I understand the dilemma, but like...
21:57It's really hard for me when you're dangling something like this.
22:01And Rico, for the most part, is a boring guy unless he's a psycho.
22:05Yeah, I mean, look at the FS1 show the first day.
22:08Yeah, well, he's...
22:09Yeah.
22:09No Jason Williams, but I mean, yeah, it's what it is, you know.
22:13Yeah, Jay Williams didn't say much.
22:15Tough spot.
22:16I think it's a tough spot.
22:16I think that's a...
22:17It is.
22:18It's a very tough spot coming off the jump.
22:20Yeah, especially with a lot of football.
22:22How do you think it went?
22:23I agree.
22:24I think it was okay.
22:26Like, we got to get the training wheels off and figure out the flow.
22:29It's people who have never done a show together.
22:32Fix those graphics.
22:33It's radically different every day.
22:34I think it went okay.
22:35I don't think it was the greatest show of all time, but I think it'll get better.
22:38When you saw the graphic, did you have the same reaction I did in terms of like,
22:42Oh, fuck.
22:43Yes.
22:44Perks.
22:45Oh, yeah.
22:46Who's in charge of that?
22:47Who's in charge of that?
22:48There's a genuine apology by you.
22:49I feel like you were like, Hey, I don't want the smoke.
22:54Yeah, I didn't want that.
22:55You think I want to see that up there?
22:57He wasn't trying to do a live show.
22:58That thing pops up.
23:00First of all, I don't even know why this graphic is crazy.
23:02There's not a name graphic on that, but I see it.
23:04It's me and Whitney.
23:05And I was like, Oh, there's going to be major damage control on this.
23:09I was, I was waiting to hear like rockets going off, like, like sirens, like bomb sirens.
23:14You gave a good apology, but you weren't sorry.
23:17You were just sorry that it appeared.
23:20You would be preventative.
23:21It was like a scared sorry.
23:23Yeah, right.
23:23You weren't sorry.
23:24You thought it was funny.
23:24But then Kirk, I thought it was funny, but like, I was like, that's obviously gonna be
23:29something that we hear about.
23:31I wish that didn't happen.
23:32And Kirk tweeted, they're doing unnamed this week.
23:35Just Whitney and Dave.
23:36Well, I assume that.
23:37And I had immediate minifan DMs.
23:40You cocksucker.
23:41Fuck you.
23:42You piece of shit.
23:43I'm like, this isn't even true.
23:47Yeah.
23:48Yeah.
23:48Anyway.
23:50How's he?
23:51How's the overall?
23:52Do you do you want to be on that panel on the college show?
23:57Do you want to be on?
23:58I saw you tweeting about it.
23:59Do you want to be on that?
24:00Oh, no, it's not the panel.
24:02I'm supposed to be in the stadium.
24:03Right.
24:04And I would be this week.
24:06No, we're figuring out.
24:07I mean, I'll do it.
24:09However, they really it's a little tricky how they're going to continually integrate me
24:13into the show.
24:15I mean, week one was a no brainer because I have the Ohio State Michigan.
24:19So there's like two colleges where you can go WWE heel.
24:24That being one of them, Michigan State being the other.
24:26And by the way, that's no different than if we're doing the Barstool College show.
24:29We're doing the same exact thing.
24:31Obviously, this week is different.
24:33Yeah, this week there isn't that.
24:34So we got to do some different things to try to keep it interesting.
24:38But it's a lot like very different, obviously, working with a network like Fox and they have
24:43production meetings and things like that that I've never sat in my life.
24:46So it's a different but they're all in and they've been great partners like we really got to get used
24:54to taking advantage of all the opportunities that they have.
24:57Like I saw him wake up Barstool today like Kenny Dillingham, coach of Arizona State,
25:01was on with Brandon Walker.
25:02I had a conference call.
25:03You want to talk about a change in the in the tea leaves or whatever you want to call it?
25:08A conference call with the Big 12, the commissioner of the Big 12, every AD was on the call being
25:17like, we just want to work with you.
25:19Like the only limit to how our schools will work with you is your imagination.
25:24That is quite a quite a turnaround for Barstool.
25:27How does that present itself?
25:29Like what what what opportunities does that mean?
25:32Because I saw the tweet doesn't care like Big 10 doesn't care that you'd be doing.
25:36No, I think they're happy, but they're not as aggressively as being like any of the athletes,
25:41coaches you want on campus do video.
25:43Right.
25:43I mean, these are like big schools.
25:45Yeah, that's good.
25:46Right.
25:47Yeah.
25:48How are the how are the any of these Fox guys assholes on the show?
25:52Is everyone good?
25:53No, everyone's been super nice.
25:54And I don't know if I would know if they're assholes even if they were yet.
25:58But no, everybody's been super accommodating, accepting, excited.
26:02So everyone's been very nice.
26:03Are you thinking that the ratings boost was more to do with you or more to do with how
26:09big of a game it was for the kickoff?
26:12It's hard to tell.
26:13I mean, obviously, it's a gigantic game.
26:16Week one, you're going against Lee Corso's head last game ever.
26:20So that's always going to be big.
26:22Listen, I grew up watching.
26:23Like college game day on ESPN, not big new kickoff switched a little bit.
26:30So we'll see.
26:31We got to put out a good product to catch up and take the lead.
26:34But the ratings are great for week one.
26:36They also had an amazing week one game.
26:39Yeah.
26:40What's the three lap and take credit?
26:43I don't know what ratings week two will be.
26:44Yeah.
26:45What's this?
26:46What's the Rosillo situation?
26:48He's hired.
26:49He's hired.
26:50It's done.
26:51Is that been official or no?
26:52I saw you tweet that it sounds like so.
26:54It's done.
26:55What is it?
26:56The wording was strange on the tweet.
26:59Well, I don't think it was done there.
27:01It was leaked.
27:02And I just.
27:03I know, but I think it was Marsha and whoever had it that it's like you're funding his company.
27:07Oh, yeah.
27:08Well, he wants to do other stuff.
27:09I mean, for the lack of.
27:12We're going to have.
27:15How would I describe it?
27:16I would say it's the same as every employee who works for Barstool, but he very clearly
27:23outlined he has interest beyond just podcasting and traditional digital, which he can do and
27:31will be like partners in other things that he's doing.
27:34So I guess it's like if we sign somebody, they're like, well, I'm interested in writing
27:38movies or doing TV shows, so I don't want just to have to do documentaries or whatever.
27:43That's it.
27:43That's kind of how it was.
27:44When does he start?
27:46I think mid-October-ish.
27:49Okay.
27:49You do a podcast.
27:50I assume a podcast or?
27:51He already has.
27:52He has that.
27:52That's really the main thing.
27:53He has a gigantic podcast.
27:54I know that.
27:55So that's coming over.
27:57Yes.
27:57I think we got to start over like the feed.
28:00I don't think they're giving him the feed.
28:02Oh, Simmons is not doing that?
28:04Yeah.
28:04Kind of a dickhead move by Spotify.
28:06But by all accounts, they could be dickheads if they're not giving it to him.
28:10Is that a Simmons issue or is that?
28:12I have no idea.
28:13It's maybe Spotify, maybe Simmons.
28:15I don't know.
28:16But like, what is the value of keeping the Ryan Russillo podcast feed?
28:22Right.
28:23Yeah.
28:23I mean, you can't.
28:24I mean, can you replace the, can you give the subscribers?
28:27I guess you could do something else.
28:27But if Priscilla has fans, I'd be like, fuck you.
28:30Is he making more money?
28:31Like by leaving?
28:33I don't know what.
28:34He's got a good deal with us.
28:36I don't know what he was making there.
28:38I don't think money was the primary driver.
28:43So it was more like, yeah.
28:45So him and Simmons could easily have like, could not like each other, you're saying.
28:51I don't know the X's and O's.
28:53They've been together a long, long time.
28:55My impression was not that, obviously we made a very competitive, compelling offer.
29:00But like, I don't think money was the, whereas the bussing guys was money.
29:07Like that's all they cared about.
29:09This, I think there were other issues.
29:10And I think a lot of it's probably maybe some of this other stuff he wants to do.
29:16I don't want to put words in his mouth, but we have a lot of big personalities, big, successful
29:22stars, and we are very good at that.
29:25And hopefully we help take him even to another level.
29:28He's already a star, but I don't want to put words in his mouth.
29:31Yeah.
29:31So he starts next month.
29:33Yep.
29:33Okay, good.
29:34Um, what else you got, Whit?
29:37What grade are you giving the Barstool Beach House?
29:40I was just going to ask that in some way.
29:42Yeah.
29:43I feel like it kind of petered home, though.
29:46Still had a ton of interest.
29:48I mean, I would say like an A minus.
29:51Oh, okay.
29:51It was better, I guess, than I thought.
29:54Maybe a big thing we should have done differently, which someone mentioned to me, I think is probably
29:58right.
29:59We shouldn't have let them regroup.
30:01Like after week one, when there was animosity and talking shit, they all went back to the
30:06office.
30:07They had a week off.
30:07They're reading the comments.
30:08I think they became friendly.
30:10And there's less.
30:12But I think overall, there's a lot of potential.
30:15I would say we may do a Barstool ski house, Barstool spring break, something like that.
30:21One or both.
30:23Will the cast be the same?
30:24No, we'll mix it up because we're not just trying to do like Kumbaya.
30:30Like, you know, Kate, the original rationale behind this is it all started when Annika freaked
30:38out on the yak.
30:40And it's like, can we do it?
30:41And these people who not a lot of people are aware of and don't have big followings and
30:46advertisers don't know who they are.
30:48Can we make stars or personalities out of them where maybe we can get some value?
30:52And the answer is yes.
30:53Like, Kadek, big, big win.
30:58Ella, big win.
31:01You know, the people who coupled up did nothing for me at the end.
31:06But overall, I would say it was very successful.
31:09Good.
31:10Yeah.
31:10So almost the next one, you're saying they don't leave.
31:13They don't leave.
31:15Yeah.
31:15Maybe do a week straight.
31:16Um, cause that's when they really want to start driving.
31:20Like, you just don't let it be the same people.
31:23Who's somebody that you need or want in the next house, ski house, beach house, whatever.
31:29Nidoo?
31:30No.
31:31Uh, I don't know.
31:33Maybe you have, maybe you have half barstool people, half strangers.
31:36That's what I think.
31:37I think you need some, I think the strangers will be less inhibited.
31:40Like, they'll do more stuff.
31:42Yeah.
31:42Yeah.
31:43Like, stoolies.
31:44Yeah.
31:44I mean, that's what reality shows have.
31:46They get random people.
31:48Yeah.
31:48Cause they don't know each other.
31:50They're not worried.
31:50I think it's, that, that would be better.
31:51I think if you're looking for crazy, I think.
31:55Imagine the applications for that.
31:58Oh, they're nuts.
31:59Yeah.
32:00Background checks.
32:01Like Nikki, like Nikki's, Nikki's an absolute scumbag.
32:06Right.
32:07So do you think if you like do applications where you have like three absolute smoke shows,
32:14like tens, he doesn't know.
32:15And one of them is willing to hook up that he wouldn't like, fuck one of them.
32:19Like next to Annika when she's sleeping.
32:22Of course he would.
32:23That kid's the biggest dirt ball of all time.
32:26So you need things like, you know, to spice it up.
32:31He did step right to Nidoo after the text was shown to him about Nidoo saying,
32:35and I'll slap him in the face.
32:36Let's be honest.
32:37Stepping to Nidoo is the easiest thing.
32:39I don't think it's the whole time.
32:41Like Nidoo when he's like, hey, I want to fight Bosco Ruff and Rowdy.
32:44Do you forget that we already saw you fight?
32:47You stole money from us.
32:48Like no shit you want to fight.
32:50You're not going to fight.
32:52What would be the offer for him and Rico?
32:56I haven't.
32:57I mean, that's a big one.
32:58That's big.
32:59Oh, I have no interest in watching them fight.
33:01None.
33:01Really?
33:02Rico would kill him.
33:04Oh, I guess.
33:05Yeah, that's a good point.
33:07We saw Nidoo fight.
33:08Based on the table yesterday, yeah.
33:10We saw him fight.
33:11I mean, if Nidoo beat Rico, Rico never comes back from that, though.
33:14That's like, you don't come back.
33:15That would be like losing to Dave in poker.
33:17Yeah, there's no return.
33:19No return.
33:20But I would have lasted, I think, less than you in that car, the Indy car.
33:23I got sick watching the footage of it.
33:25I could not do it.
33:26I hate that.
33:27I couldn't do it.
33:27Could you do that, Whit?
33:30I think I want to do it now.
33:32If I get in there and you get up to 140, maybe I'm screaming to get out.
33:37But I would try it.
33:39What was your top speed?
33:40Yeah, I was going to ask.
33:41I think 140, 150.
33:43Fuck that.
33:44Jesus Christ.
33:45The only thing that was good, it's over quick.
33:47And if it was a longer, like you had to slow down to go into the turn so you catch your breath.
33:53But I hate amusement park rides.
33:55I don't like any of that shit.
33:57And so, you know, this, the Fox deal was done.
34:00Like the ink was just drying.
34:03And the head of Fox Sports basically was like, hey, after the first game, we have this race in Nashville.
34:09Brady did the car.
34:11A-Rod did the car.
34:11Why don't you come?
34:12And then we'll drop you off.
34:13It's like, all right, sure.
34:14I'll do it.
34:14And then I actually, because my assistant is Brady's assistant, we reached out and we're like, how bad was that car?
34:22And he's like, it was fast, not awful.
34:25But it was, for me, not fun.
34:27I was dreading it.
34:28I was like dreading it.
34:29It just was quick.
34:30That's the only good thing.
34:31It does make you appreciate the drivers going that fucking speed for like hours on end.
34:37It's crazy.
34:38It's fucking insane.
34:40Jesus.
34:41Oh, yeah.
34:42Update from a couple weeks ago, Dave.
34:43I have found a replacement for Dave Cullinan, the producer of the Kirkman Hand Show.
34:47Insane.
34:48Dave Cullinan is replacing Dave Cullinan.
34:50I mean.
34:51Fourth time.
34:52Fourth time.
34:53Fourth time he's back.
34:54What happened to his last job that he lasted five seconds at?
34:57He had some issues with his new boss.
35:01They just didn't click.
35:02They didn't connect.
35:03He went back to a boss who's more understanding and accommodating for the fourth time.
35:08What happens when he quits the next time?
35:10We fire somebody else.
35:11Then we bring him back the fifth time, probably.
35:13He has unlimited, unlimited times to quit and come back.
35:18I'm like Parcells.
35:19Remember Parcells always bring back the assistant coaches?
35:21I bring back my family.
35:22You said when we were with Mutt the other day, this brought a lot of controversy in
35:26our world.
35:27You said Justin has a job for life at Barstool.
35:30Yeah, I think he does.
35:31Oh, well, what if I don't want to hire him as my producer anymore?
35:34Yeah, we would scoop him up.
35:36You'd find something to do with him.
35:38Yeah, we'd find something to do with him.
35:40Give him to Dan.
35:41Good.
35:41All right, good.
35:42You're safe, Justin.
35:43Good.
35:43All right.
35:43That's good news.
35:44Okay, because he's probably on his way out as well.
35:46He would never.
35:48I feel like he's never going to leave.
35:50He wants to go to Chicago.
35:51He does?
35:52Yeah.
35:55Really?
35:55Yeah.
35:56I think nine out of ten days, he wants to be part of the Kirk Minahan world.
36:01But that day when, you know, Dez Bryant is tweeting out Kirk screaming at him, he's probably
36:06like, I wouldn't mind watching football and eating ice cream in Chicago.
36:09Yeah, for the Yak Challenge, life's a lot easier.
36:10I don't blame him.
36:11Yeah.
36:11So welcome back, Dave Colonnade.
36:13He starts in a couple weeks.
36:15The fourth time.
36:15What were his demands, Kirk?
36:16Kirk, as it turned out, pretty much the same as last time.
36:20He's just going to show up and kind of half-ass it, and then he's going to quit when he gets
36:23a better job and then come back.
36:24His wife must be like, wait, what?
36:27I don't know.
36:28Who knows?
36:28We have some of the craziest spouses.
36:32Clemmer's wife.
36:34These women.
36:35Why is Clemmer's wife crazy?
36:37I mean, other than being married to Clemmer.
36:38Married to Clemmer.
36:39Allowing Clemmer to exist in this world of nothingness.
36:46Like, Clemmer texted me yesterday.
36:48He's like, I still don't have a contract.
36:50Oh, that's right.
36:51Yeah.
36:52Like, I thought he did, but he's so insignificant and irrelevant.
36:55He's just, like, working day to day without even having a contract.
36:59Getting hats.
37:00Yeah, that's another example where if she's talking to her parents, like, oh, what's Chris
37:05up to?
37:05She's like, he's in New Mexico looking for a purple hat.
37:08Like, yeah.
37:09But you think her in-laws haven't, his in-laws haven't written him off already?
37:13You think they really are asking about him even at this point?
37:16So are you going to re-sign him?
37:18Yeah.
37:19Yes.
37:19I said he would renew.
37:21And he's like, oh, I haven't seen the paperwork.
37:24All right.
37:25We'll get it over there when I see you.
37:26This is not like the Rusillo negotiation?
37:30No, this was a little easier.
37:32Yeah.
37:32Yeah.
37:32What did he say?
37:34He texted me literally yesterday.
37:35I'll look.
37:36Like, will he get a raise?
37:37Like, a little, you know.
37:39If it's a raise, it'll be so insignificant.
37:41Oh, don't say that.
37:42Don't say that.
37:43I know you've been swamped with traveling and FS1 stuff.
37:46This is, by the way.
37:51He's passed my contract about four times.
37:53I know you've been swamped with traveling and FS1 stuff.
37:58But I didn't know if there's any update on my contract.
38:00If you want me to reach out to Gaz instead, I obviously can do that and not bother you.
38:03I said, I thought we renewed already.
38:06I haven't seen or heard anything.
38:07So we got to get on that.
38:09Have you got on that since he texted you?
38:11No, I haven't.
38:13Is there an employee level where, because like, if I text you, you text me back.
38:17Like, is there, is there a, is it a person?
38:19Is it if you don't like somebody?
38:20Like, what's the, like, if it's a combo, whether I like them, respect them, what I'm doing at that exact moment.
38:28Like, I was running around.
38:29So I got distracted.
38:31I try to get back.
38:32I don't hate clamor.
38:34No, I know you don't.
38:35I know you don't.
38:35So any other contracts, renewals, not renewals, anything new?
38:40No, I know there's actually probably a couple I got to get on.
38:43But it's just, my biggest issue right now is, and I just was telling this to somebody.
38:47I'm so busy, I don't have time to look outside what I'm doing in the next five minutes and kind of, like, I don't want to say game plan, but bigger picture things.
38:56Business stuff is getting a little bit lost in me just not having a second to breathe.
39:01I am going to take some Mondays off because I don't get home now until Monday.
39:07So I'm like out of clothes.
39:08I've been on the road for 14 days.
39:10You're going to take Mondays off from FS1?
39:13Occasionally or pipe in, yeah.
39:15Yeah, but we knew, did people think you were going to be in Chicago every week for that?
39:19That was never going to happen.
39:20It was a plan, but.
39:21Yeah, but you were never going to do that.
39:23One week.
39:23Yeah, having the Foxwoods stuff, definitely.
39:27Are you going to be in Chicago next week?
39:28You're in Iowa for the weekend.
39:30Yes.
39:30Okay.
39:30Yes.
39:31Do you know the schedule, how far in advance for where you are for?
39:34They do about three weeks.
39:36So they knew the first three weeks.
39:38It's, it was obviously Ohio State.
39:40We're going to be in Ames.
39:42It's Northwestern.
39:43Dan's doing that one because I have Pizza Fest.
39:45And then I don't know where week four is going.
39:48Okay.
39:48Yeah.
39:48Cause they don't really know how teams are playing or whatever.
39:50Correct.
39:51Yeah.
39:51And you said everyone's nice, but like, did you find like maybe Urban Meyer deep down,
39:55like despises talking to you?
39:58No, I think he's, he strikes me as somebody who's like, I know social media is a thing.
40:05His kids are like fans of Barstool and mine and they're like, this is good for the show.
40:10So he got it.
40:11But yet, like I made a little tick tock with him and like the pregame, put the phone up.
40:16I'm like, here, let's do this.
40:17And then like a second later or five seconds later, you tap saying, so where does that go?
40:22Like, how does that get people to be able to see it?
40:26I'm like, Oh, it goes in social media.
40:27It's like, yeah, but how do people see it?
40:29Like he's one of those guys as a tough scene for Belichick.
40:34Jesus Christ.
40:36That was rough.
40:37It didn't totally surprise me.
40:39That bad, that bad of a beating though.
40:44I don't know.
40:45I, I, he does not strike me as a college coach.
40:48You gotta be like, I I've said this a few times, but contrast him and Dion Dion has all
40:53his celebs on the sideline.
40:55He's running out.
40:56It's rah, rah.
40:57It's a show.
40:58So Belichick's not like that.
41:00He had his celebs up in the box with Jordan.
41:02He's not jogging.
41:03It's just, he does not strike me as the recruiter.
41:06He's an X's and O's guy.
41:08And I just don't know.
41:09I think it could be a disaster.
41:12Yeah.
41:12I thought the game won.
41:14So I just thought he was on the sideline.
41:19That was, that was pregame.
41:20Turned out.
41:20That was, yeah, that was not real.
41:22Oh, so that was Mutt who might got fooled by that on Twitter and thought it was real.
41:26Yes.
41:26How could you think that was real?
41:28The players were doing like their pregame calisthenics.
41:31Like I, I believed, I believed Mutt, which, you know, you saw him a few weeks ago.
41:35That must've been nice.
41:36Mutt had a fan base there.
41:38I didn't mean the fans.
41:40They were fans of mine.
41:41I'll say this about Mutt.
41:44Oh, yeah.
41:44Go ahead.
41:45I don't know why I find him remotely interesting because he's not interested.
41:49That's what's interesting about him though.
41:51Exactly.
41:51He is interesting.
41:52That is his biggest appeal is how fucking boring.
41:54But he is so flatline boring.
41:57The most boring person who's ever lived.
41:59He's doing this Yukon podcast right now.
42:01I'll give you a billion dollars if you can make it through one of these episodes.
42:06They're fucking dreadful.
42:09This is dreadful.
42:10This is one of his best friends.
42:15It's fucking awful.
42:16What do you want me to say?
42:17Did you listen to him, Wade?
42:19I just heard a clip on your show.
42:21It's fucking terrible.
42:23Horrible.
42:23Everything he does is awful.
42:25Horrible.
42:26Horrible.
42:26No, it's not though.
42:27He's on Kirk's show.
42:29He's great.
42:29He gets.
42:30Yeah, he's a great punching bag.
42:32He's a great.
42:33I wouldn't say punching bag sidekick.
42:35No, he's like the meat in Rocky Balboa.
42:38Like he's the meat hanging in the locker.
42:40But as you know better than anybody, that's invaluable though.
42:45Yeah, he's a great.
42:46Yes.
42:46A great, a great punching bag is like, is a gift from God who could just sit there.
42:51You take like Nate.
42:52Nate's irritating.
42:53He's grating.
42:54He's.
42:55Nobody wants him around a lot.
42:58Mutt's a guy you can just beat over the head with a mallet, keeps coming back and he doesn't
43:02really irritate anybody.
43:03Yeah.
43:04Yeah, exactly.
43:05So yeah, I mean, yeah, the podcast is dreadful.
43:07Will you do more poker content quickly though with Nate?
43:10Like not you and him, but.
43:12Sure.
43:12Best of seven, right Dave?
43:13Every week.
43:14Will you get some bars to a poker content based on how that did?
43:19Or are you more thinking because you were in it is why the numbers were.
43:23I'm sure having all these big personalities and helped.
43:27I mean, I don't know how easy it is to do what we did.
43:30We have like the card readers, we had kind of professional announcers.
43:34Like, I don't know how easy that is to set that up.
43:38And you're going to need the big people like Nate has proven that nobody wants to see him
43:42play poker, not just because he sucks because he's an irritating off camera guy.
43:47He's never understood that.
43:48Yeah, he's not yet right.
43:51He's not in on the joke at all, which is weird because, I mean, he should.
43:54He's not dumb.
43:55I don't think.
43:55Do you?
43:57No, but he's got something like wrong with him.
44:00You've never really given him a chance though.
44:02Yeah.
44:03I've stolen his glitter.
44:04Of course, I've given him a chance.
44:06I mean, I like him, but he's an annoying guy.
44:08Like he would.
44:09You don't think Nate's annoying at all?
44:11Oh, he's horrible.
44:12I mean, Nate, wait.
44:13No, no, no, he's annoying.
44:16I like him, but he's a very annoying guy.
44:17I've known Nate for so long.
44:19Like, I don't dislike Nate.
44:21Yeah, a little annoying, but when he says, like, I think I'm better on camera than Dave
44:26says, I do say to him, yeah, you've never been given a real shot.
44:29What are you talking about?
44:30Nate at night.
44:32That was when he had Van Riemsdyke on.
44:35Van Riemsdyke thought he was sitting down with Walter Cronkite.
44:42That was absolutely an unbelievable hour.
44:46I re-aired that one time on Barstool Radio on a Friday.
44:50I just was like, didn't want to do it.
44:51So I re-aired Nate at night with Van Riemsdyke.
44:55Every time, that thing ages worse every time you listen to it.
44:58It's unbelievable.
45:00Where'd you meet Jim Nance?
45:01Where was this?
45:03That was a great story.
45:05Saratoga.
45:06I had my head down.
45:08Yeah.
45:09And I hear, hello, friend.
45:11And I look up as Jim Nance.
45:14It was incredible.
45:15It's almost like a cameo, like a Make-A-Wish thing.
45:18That's such a power move to be able to say that.
45:20And immediately, like, you knew before you looked up.
45:24I knew the voice.
45:24It's like, holy shit.
45:25And he was wearing a master's polo.
45:27He's like, I always got to represent the brand.
45:29He was very nice.
45:30He's like, yeah, I want to come up and say hello.
45:32He's never at Saratoga.
45:34So it wasn't like somebody you'd expect to see or hear.
45:37He had some speaking gig.
45:38But yeah, hello, friend.
45:40He was right.
45:41He was right on that par three.
45:42Right off there with it.
45:43Pebble.
45:44And he has.
45:45Like, have you seen the par three?
45:47The replica.
45:47Yeah, he's got the replica of the short par three of his fucking house.
45:50He lives on Pebble Beach.
45:52Jesus.
45:53I actually think he's up there for coolest jobs in the world.
45:57Oh, fuck yeah.
45:58Like, that is.
45:59He's at the best football game every week.
46:01The Masters.
46:02And what else?
46:03He used to do the final four in the Masters the same week.
46:07He didn't do the basketball anymore.
46:08But he used to do that.
46:08Getting paid, what?
46:10Probably 20 million a year for 10, 15 years.
46:13Probably more, right?
46:14Yeah.
46:15Rolo's making 50 million.
46:17Yeah, probably.
46:18Are we doing a show next week?
46:19Or what's your schedule?
46:22Yeah, next week I'm going to be home on Thursday.
46:24All right, so we're locked in for Thursday next week.
46:26Yep.
46:27All right, anything else?
46:29No.
46:30No.
46:31No.
46:32Oh, why can't you do Pick'Em on Saturday mornings?
46:34I was watching and I liked that idea.
46:36Because I listen to Pick'Em, but it is like it's Wednesday or whatever.
46:39I can't.
46:40And what were you down on Dan about?
46:42Dan is switching picks or something?
46:43What were you saying?
46:44Dan gives – we do the show, and then Dan gives like 95% of his picks off the show.
46:50But he doesn't change the picks he makes on Pick'Em.
46:53No, he occasionally does that too.
46:55Do you do that ever?
46:57What?
46:57Do you do that ever?
46:58Yeah, I've done it occasionally.
46:59Well, that's tough.
47:00That's tough.
47:00Well, he did it on national TV this week.
47:04What?
47:05You did it on national TV.
47:06Yeah, I mean, you can't kill Dan for that if you're doing it.
47:08And then you gave Ohio State –
47:10Well, again, we got to reiterate.
47:11We do picks that it's like I don't really have opinions.
47:15And like because we talk about the big games, then you do your card.
47:18But yes, I agree with what Dan's saying in theory to a degree.
47:23Like we do it early in the week, and then your opinion may change by the time game time rolls around.
47:28Fair.
47:28But if you give out seven picks during the show, 30 picks after the show, and change three of the picks, it's not even a pick show.
47:38It would be much better to do it Saturday morning live.
47:41Saturday mornings, my call time in big noon is like 6.30 a.m.
47:47Yeah, that's what time you were at the whole show.
47:49Yeah, yeah, I've been up at like five, yes.
47:52I am –
47:53Why do they do that?
47:54People are like, oh, cry me a river.
47:56I am working the hardest I've ever worked for less than I should be making.
48:02It's brutal.
48:03You think you're working harder now flying around in a private jet than taking shit out of mailboxes in downtown crossing?
48:11Maybe.
48:11When do you normally tape pick them?
48:16Wednesdays.
48:17Are you guys – Friday night, obviously, then you're at the wherever it is.
48:21Friday night, so I have to fly to where we're going Thursday night.
48:25Can you tape it Friday night?
48:26Friday production meeting at noon.
48:27That goes like three hours.
48:29Pizza, dinner, production meeting, 6.30 a.m. the next day.
48:34Fly to Chicago.
48:37Do FS1 Monday morning.
48:40Well, yeah.
48:41Can you do pick –
48:42Also, Nate can have glitter.
48:44Can you do pick them on Friday night?
48:46Like post –
48:47I suggested that.
48:48That seems reasonable, no?
48:50I mean, Dan's schedule is crazy, too.
48:52Yeah.
48:54All right.
48:55Hey, that Kawhi Leonard thing, as –
48:57I understand it.
48:58I'm a fucking idiot.
48:59If I'm a fan, I would love my owner doing that.
49:03100%.
49:04Like, that is –
49:05I respect the hell out of that.
49:07I don't know how they –
49:08How did that guy find all that out?
49:10Pablo Torre.
49:11I don't know.
49:11But is the NBA going to –
49:13Is the NBA going to give this the death penalty, though?
49:14Are they going to destroy Balba for this?
49:19I don't know.
49:20I mean, I heard someone –
49:21I don't know who said that.
49:22Law teams probably do it.
49:23You're saying the Knicks is what he's looking at next with Brunson?
49:25Yeah, Jalen Brunson.
49:26Yeah.
49:26So, it's just basically no show.
49:28They just pay them a fucking fortune to do nothing.
49:31It's happened in college athletics all the time.
49:33But with the salary cap, it's a way to get around the salary cap.
49:37To prevent the cap, yeah.
49:39Yeah.
49:39But I guess the argument is the other teams weren't doing it.
49:42So, is he getting penalized?
49:44To me, it's a very clear violation of the rules.
49:50Right.
49:50So, they'll get – if it's true –
49:52Now, the Clippers –
49:53I saw Cubans say this.
49:54The Clippers are saying it's bullshit.
49:55Assuming it's not, they're going to get whacked for this, I think.
49:58It happened to the Timberwolves like years ago.
50:01Joe Smith.
50:02Five first-round picks.
50:03Yeah, they got destroyed.
50:04Something like that will probably happen.
50:06That's not like the Caprio's involved.
50:08I mean, rightfully so, right?
50:10Yeah, I guess.
50:11But, I mean, I feel like that's –
50:12But I still like the effort.
50:14If they're doing it –
50:15Yeah, me too.
50:15They're not the only ones doing it.
50:16They're doing it, though.
50:17I can't imagine.
50:18You're saying it was happening in the WNBA with Las Vegas.
50:20Oh, is that right?
50:23Yeah.
50:23You're saying that?
50:25They were.
50:26Like, that they – because there's a salary cap there, too.
50:28Like, players can only make dirt money right now.
50:31And they were paying them, like, outside of –
50:34Like, they were doing end-arounds.
50:36Hmm.
50:36That'll happen in college football.
50:38NIL, you have – that'll be the new cheating.
50:40You can spend this much.
50:42But, like, how do you know what somebody else is doing, you know?
50:46Yeah.
50:46If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying in sports.
50:49That's true.
50:49It's true.
50:51All right, boys.
50:52You good?
50:53Fucking Nate.
50:54His poor apartment.
50:55Poor Nate.
50:55He's dead.
50:56Stay in there.
50:58He's dead.
50:59No, he's – he's alive.
51:00That's good.
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