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00:00You know, I think it's the first time we've had anybody fill in for anybody.
00:04We've either done it or not done it, I think.
00:07I wasn't sure if we did one fill in.
00:10I can't remember.
00:11For me or you or Witt before?
00:14I don't remember.
00:14I don't think so.
00:14I could be wrong.
00:15If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
00:16But who better?
00:17Did we have Rico fill in one week?
00:19Oh, that might be right.
00:21I think we may have had Rico one week.
00:24I think you might be right.
00:24I think you're right.
00:25Well, who better today, Dave?
00:27You asked for it.
00:27I was playing ping pong with my son.
00:30And I saw a text from you, which usually means I did something really fun.
00:33I'm like, what the fuck am I going to get into here?
00:35That's not true.
00:37That's not true.
00:38You're frequently texting and saying, hey, Kirk, how's it going?
00:40No, but I...
00:42You're going to see the Paul Thomas Anderson movie this weekend?
00:44We text about this show.
00:46That's usually a group thread one.
00:48When it's just you texting me, I'm like, oh.
00:50Well, I knew Whitney was out.
00:52Sure.
00:53But I thought we were done for the week.
00:54I'm glad we're not.
00:54And you said, I read that I couldn't believe what I saw.
00:57He said, how about Mutt filling in this week for Whitney?
01:00And here he is.
01:01Mike Barstool's newest employee, I believe.
01:05Yeah.
01:06Muttstack's own Mike Manansky.
01:07Yes.
01:08What's up, boys?
01:09Why are you so soft?
01:10Why are you bringing it so much already?
01:11It's making me...
01:12I'm doing the head nodding.
01:13I got to do the Whitney head nod.
01:14You sound terrible.
01:15You sound fucking terrible.
01:17Are you soft?
01:18They told me I sound okay.
01:19I can turn myself up.
01:20Hold on.
01:21They told me I sound okay.
01:22Check, check, check to any better?
01:23Any better?
01:24That's better.
01:24That's better.
01:25Yes.
01:26You got to read Zabo.
01:27Dave's going to get this.
01:27Yes.
01:28All right.
01:28Go ahead.
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02:52Good.
02:52Okay.
02:53We got a lot to get to.
02:54A lot to get to.
02:55We can start wherever you guys want.
02:57I will say, I texted you offline that the show, me, you, and Whitney text, trying to figure out who sussed out who the person was asking for the salary, criticizing Nikki and Mincy.
03:09You said you wouldn't comment.
03:10So, Chicago announced it, and it was Big T.
03:14Correct.
03:15So, what was the conversation like?
03:17Was it?
03:18So, Big T, I saw him recall it.
03:20It was pretty accurate.
03:21I was in Chicago filming the show, and he said, so, I stay.
03:29We film the show, 7 o'clock their time.
03:32Show ends at 9.
03:33I have, like, a plane at 10.30 to get home.
03:35So, I'm out.
03:36Like, the second the show ends, I leave.
03:38And he's like, hey, Kentucky, a couple minutes, my contract's up.
03:41And I'm like, ah, not really.
03:42Like, this is a bad time.
03:43I'm flying.
03:44He's like, it'll take 30 seconds.
03:46So, he walked into the Macrodose studio.
03:48He's like, my contract's up.
03:51I'd like to make more.
03:52Here's my pitch.
03:53I make the same as Nikki Spokes and Mincy, and that's a problem.
03:58And I just kind of gave him a look.
04:00I'm like, I don't know what I think of that.
04:02And then I walked out.
04:05And then later, I did the tweet of who do you think did it, and is it fair?
04:11And by the way, I should say, it has zero relevance.
04:17Actually, there is, I believe, credence to do it the reverse way, to be like, this person
04:24makes this much.
04:25I think I should be making equal or more on the higher level because here's how much I
04:30bring in.
04:30And almost like you look at, like, a top free agent, there's reasons we're paying that
04:35much.
04:35And lots of times when you're in that stratosphere, you can look to, well, I'm getting offers
04:41from this.
04:42I bring in this much revenue directly.
04:45He's not the first to do it on the bottom scale, which to me has no relevance.
04:49It doesn't help your case.
04:50Right.
04:51I understand what you're saying.
04:52Yeah.
04:52But I don't, because I think some people, I had said on my show, people, like, this is
04:56what you do in negotiations.
04:57If you're an NBA player, when I used to negotiate contracts at the EI, I'd say, well, this guy
05:00at 9 to 85 makes this, like, you do have to bring up, that's not a big deal, bring up
05:05other people in negotiations.
05:06Like, you should do that.
05:08That's your point of reference.
05:09No?
05:09Yes.
05:10Yes.
05:11But it, to a degree, what I'm, I know what you're saying.
05:14Yeah.
05:15You can do it on the high end when you're saying these are the worst people.
05:17Take a shot.
05:18Yeah.
05:18Yeah.
05:18Yeah.
05:18And by the way, you may be picking people that think are wildly overpaid.
05:22Here's something people know very much about me.
05:24Once you get in, you're either, you're not going generally to take a pay cut most of the
05:30time, almost 99%, or you're just not here anymore.
05:33Like, once you're grandfathered into your salary, I don't really go down.
05:38Nicky smokes one of that.
05:40Mincy, I don't know what.
05:41But that is not, to look at the lowest hanging fruit, I pay no attention to.
05:46And he's certainly not the first person to do that, to be like, I know this person is
05:53not even, I've heard different salaries throughout Barstool and be like, well, I know this person
05:58makes that.
05:59And if they're making that, I should make this.
06:01But I've said it like an athlete, like you said, an athlete, well, somebody could be signed
06:06to a contract and they don't perform.
06:07So like, what does that mean?
06:09It's like, we thought they were going to be better and they're not.
06:11So you're using what I would say is a bad contract.
06:13I didn't take offense to it and what Big T said was correct.
06:18I actually like Big T.
06:19So do I.
06:20And I'm like, I'm not, that's not the way to get more money by choosing who you think
06:26are the worst because that's irrelevant, but I'm not holding it against you in your contract
06:30negotiation.
06:31It's like just irrelevant to how much you're going to make is what you think the worst
06:37people at our company are making.
06:38Was there a reason other than just to fuck around why you didn't say it was him in the
06:41tweet?
06:42Like you weren't protected, were you protecting him or are you just doing it just to, well,
06:46it didn't come out by the time like you asked me, it hadn't really.
06:51Yeah.
06:51Yeah.
06:52Yeah.
06:52But it hadn't come out and they were guessing they were, it was becoming a thing.
06:55So I'm like, I'll just let it go.
06:57Yeah.
06:57Yeah.
06:58Yeah.
06:58Okay.
06:59Hmm.
06:59All right.
07:00Good job, bud.
07:01I say, my thing is Nikki has every right to be pissed.
07:04Like, cause what Big T said was not, I want to make what Nikki's making.
07:07I want to make more than him, which is basically shitting on the work that Nikki does.
07:10So I had no problem with the way he's useless.
07:12Nikki brings nothing to this company.
07:14I mean, he brings absolutely nothing to this company.
07:17You bring nothing to this company.
07:18A lot of people.
07:19Now you can argue it's part of the circus world, which as a whole value in your salary
07:26cap.
07:26There's like their circus retail, like the idiot.
07:29Yes.
07:29Yeah.
07:29Right.
07:30That's part of the budget.
07:31Like, are we ever going to see like any of those people get to where it's chicklets,
07:37it's PMT, it's chicks in the office or the people have left where there's like clear big
07:43revenue streams.
07:44Probably not.
07:45But Nikki is certainly Nikki's values going up.
07:47His biggest problem is a liability.
07:49You never know when he's going to do something like Nikki will never be in the green for Barstool
07:56as long as he lives in totality of his existence.
07:59But you don't care.
08:00No.
08:01I mean, I, I, I mean, you'd like it, but I'm saying it's not right.
08:04You're not going to not bring them back.
08:06Like that's correct.
08:07Yeah.
08:07As you said, that's not the way you operate.
08:08And to go down again, just when you're looking at like the last guys on the roster, that's
08:15not a, you're not in a good negotiation place when you're like, you know, well, look at
08:19somebody sent me a whole list, an email.
08:21They're like, you, you could be saving 2.7 million because all these people are useless.
08:26I don't know where they came up with their salaries, but there is somebody within the
08:30company said you this.
08:31No, no.
08:31Oh, okay.
08:32Yeah.
08:33Yeah.
08:33Yeah.
08:33But again, there is something to be said for the circus atmosphere.
08:37They're like, yes, Mincy brings absolutely nothing to the table.
08:40He's wildly out of touch with reality.
08:43He's back playing poker.
08:44I don't know who he was doing, but we talk about how bad Mincy is like he's content.
08:50And there's this, you know, he'll do like six videos a year that are very funny.
08:54Yeah.
08:54I know what the value of that is, but there is value in that.
08:57It's the circus atmosphere.
08:59Right.
08:59Again, if you're truly trying to get more money, I don't think help.
09:04It helps by saying, here's the worst that you got.
09:07I think I'm better than your worst.
09:09I think it does make sense.
09:10If you look at the top end and you're like, well, I know this guy makes that and our show
09:17is bigger.
09:17We have more ads.
09:18We're bringing more revenue.
09:19I think that's fair.
09:20Have you talked to him since?
09:21People do it in sports all the time.
09:23It's like, I know that cornerbacks making this and I'm the best cornerback or quarterback
09:28or whatever in all sports.
09:29Yeah.
09:30To your defense.
09:31Like if somebody in the middle of a contract is overperforming and went into you, you would
09:34say, yep, that's fair.
09:35Let's rip it up and like, let's start over.
09:37Right.
09:38I think, right?
09:38I mean, that's been the history.
09:39Totally.
09:40Yes.
09:40And we don't rip it downwards.
09:42Like if you're underperforming, you still get it.
09:44You rarely in these negotiations will hear someone say, well, this person's the worst
09:49player in the league.
09:49I think I'm a little better than him.
09:51So like there's league minimums.
09:53Well, I saw it for big T the big T get the new deal that we haven't even started talking
09:57about it.
09:58I saw big T is going to get a raise of some sort, but it's totally in.
10:03People are delusional and I don't want to spill all the guts.
10:06Big T people.
10:07We live in a delusional world where he's like, I want a 50% raise 50%.
10:11That's like, that's like, where do you get 50%?
10:15Just like I'm better than your two worst guys.
10:18Bump me 50%.
10:19That's crazy.
10:21I saw a response.
10:22A lot of people speculate it was Clemmer because he's a, but Clemmer said he also has
10:25still not signed his contract yet.
10:27You have not extended him.
10:29He's extended.
10:30I don't know that the contract he's so down my list of priorities.
10:34We understand.
10:35Like, yeah.
10:36Where is he going to go?
10:38Right.
10:38Okay.
10:38So for you, he just continues to exist with his current salary and just stick.
10:42And I like big T and if macro dosing starts going bananas, good, but like.
10:48He's a good guy.
10:49These people have nowhere to go.
10:51Like if you're not, not working here.
10:53And honestly, that's part of what keeps me here is.
10:58I have a whole bunch of people.
10:59I feel like I'm really screwing up their life because if I, if I'm like, I'm out of
11:03here, Barstool's done.
11:04I'm like, were they going to go bag groceries?
11:06What, what is Nate?
11:07What is Nate going to do with his life?
11:09It's a reasonable question.
11:10It's a fair question.
11:11Yeah.
11:12I mean, I wasn't doing anything.
11:13Right.
11:13We're going to survive on nothing.
11:16He might as contributed.
11:17He's, he's AJ Hawking us.
11:19I mean, it's, it's unbelievable.
11:21He's like, uh, like fricking calling on dateline.
11:25The, um, the, if you're Tom Brady, like I gotta say, like, if you're going to take this
11:30money, if you're going to play ball with the Southies, you, a, you can't be pissy about
11:34it and B, you can't be like, well, like I didn't get take that much money for it.
11:39Like you either take it or you don't take it.
11:41Like, you know, like don't be like, no, I'm making way less than that.
11:44I don't understand it.
11:46I still think that's the number.
11:47Um, but he said, no, but I don't understand why you're saying, I actually think the higher
11:53the number, the better it looks for you.
11:55The most, just like we sat on the show and we're like, of course you take 75 million.
11:59Well, you like, nobody would turn down 75 million for a couple of days of work.
12:04Nobody would.
12:05Um, so he wasn't getting like crucified.
12:07If you took it for like 5 million, then in your Tom Brady, that's like, why'd you do that
12:12for five?
12:12But I don't know.
12:13He says that I have, listen, he said, no, I don't know why he's hiding the number.
12:17Then just say what the number is.
12:18If it's, if I'm wrong and you guys see all the crazy numbers they throw out for stuff.
12:23It's not that crazy to get the most famous football player basically of all time to run a flag
12:28football game in Saudi Arabia.
12:30What is the negotiation process?
12:32So you and Dan turned down 10 million.
12:33Is that right?
12:34Wow.
12:35Yeah.
12:35And the Saudis are mad at us.
12:36So what was the, that's not good.
12:38What was the, how does that work?
12:39Who reaches out?
12:40Like, what is the process?
12:41And it wasn't 10 million.
12:43That was a misquote.
12:45Okay.
12:46So Dan, I think Dan said what happened in the New York post is took it.
12:51Okay.
12:51I think Dan said we were offered three or four that we wanted like 13 or 15 to which
12:58they said, no.
13:01And then the New York post, I just said, some guys still can't be bought in sports, but it's
13:07now back channeled.
13:08There's a, there's, I guess a PR company that represents, I don't know if it's the Turkey
13:14guy or like the government or whatever, but it came to my attention this week.
13:19I texted, I go, the Saudis are mad at us.
13:21They said, we lied about the 10 million and, and they're going to like out us.
13:26It's like out us to who and say what?
13:29And like, I don't know, but the Saudis are mad.
13:32You would have done it for, for 12 million or whatever, 14 million.
13:35It was two to go to two fights.
13:37I think we wanted 14 million to do it.
13:39I have always said from day one, you'll sell out.
13:43I will sell out.
13:45Yeah.
13:46Well, I, I will say this, like, look, it's, it's dirty money.
13:49But that 14 million is paying that budget.
13:52You just talked about a hundred percent.
13:54Like for 30 years, like two or two or three days of, of work.
13:58Yeah.
13:59I'd love to be getting now.
14:00We're not getting this.
14:01I'd love to be getting these crazy offers.
14:07If I got 75 million to go do pizza fest for a day or two, I would do it.
14:11And I would be rubbing people's faces in it.
14:13Like I just got set.
14:15I mean, it is insane money, but we're not getting those type of offers.
14:19And it sounds like we will never get one again because they're mad at us.
14:23Are we going to get an NFL game?
14:24You guys think over there with all the money they're spreading around?
14:27I do.
14:27Yes.
14:27They don't have a fucking, they don't have a division there in 20 years.
14:31That's, that's inevitable.
14:32So we're getting everything.
14:33I saw, I think it was a joke.
14:35The flyer, the, I I'm so lost in things, but a comedy festival.
14:40I think someone just put a little sass to be funny, but they had like every single comedian
14:44on earth.
14:45That's the one that Tim Dillon's got kicked out of.
14:48Maybe.
14:48I don't know.
14:49I mean, yeah.
14:50Yeah.
14:50Yeah.
14:51Chappelle's in there, I think.
14:52Right.
14:52Yeah.
14:52He was, listen, everybody for the most part has a price.
14:57Now I've sat on calls when the live thing happened.
15:01This.
15:01Yeah.
15:02Yeah.
15:05Okay.
15:06Yeah.
15:06I saw, is it, uh, who's on there?
15:09Connor?
15:09Bill Burr's on there.
15:10Chappelle.
15:11Is that real?
15:11I don't know if it's a joke or not, but yeah, go ahead.
15:13No, I, I think this is all real with the exception of.
15:16Yeah.
15:18Yeah.
15:18Yeah.
15:18Moog's on there too.
15:19Yeah.
15:19Okay.
15:20Yeah.
15:21Yeah.
15:21But I mean, this must've cost.
15:23Oh my God.
15:25Yeah.
15:25So they have unlimited money.
15:27They have unlimited money and they're throwing it around and, and, and they throw it around
15:31to everybody.
15:32They throw it around.
15:33What are you saying about live?
15:34You said you're on calls.
15:36I trashed live like trash.
15:39I remember the, the PGA guy because it won 80.
15:42He's like, they're terrorists basically.
15:44And then two seconds later, he's wants to work with them.
15:46But I got on call and it was like widows.
15:49And it was a terrible.
15:50Yeah.
15:51Yeah.
15:51I mean, they, they are like, these are the people responsible and we're fucking doing
15:57business with them and it's a terrible and I get their point.
15:59And then they're like, well, here's a hundred million for an hour's worth of work.
16:03And it's like, yeah, but our, our relatives are dead.
16:06It, it, it, how phone call.
16:08But you still do it.
16:10I, I, I'd like to say I will never do it, but you just said you'd do it for 14 million.
16:14Yeah.
16:15Yeah.
16:16Well, they said no.
16:17So maybe I would change my mind.
16:19Pizza Fest, I, Pizza Fest was an agreed agreement to go to Raya, uh, for 4 million.
16:24And then the thing happened with Amas and I canceled.
16:28I'm like, I'm not going to the middle East.
16:30Fair enough.
16:31The Greg Olson thing's kind of funny because I mean, obviously I know the history of it,
16:34but people are fucking losing their minds over it.
16:37Crazy.
16:37Now the only thing I think Greg did wrong or not wrong, he's not in our world.
16:43He was getting so much comments.
16:45He may not be on the show this week because his game is in Dublin.
16:49So his travels, I maybe would have let this fester for like another week where people,
16:55but he's getting hit.
16:56First of all, I, even if I wasn't friends with him going back like 20 years, I mean,
17:01we're talking to a guy who wore a brick watch on football.
17:05No, I only sold four of those and he wore one, but, uh, I didn't, I don't know how anyone
17:12we're talking about undressing like an umpire.
17:14Like that's going to cause some major, major fight.
17:17Yeah.
17:17I didn't really understand it.
17:19I thought he was rolling along with the punches pretty clearly.
17:21And there was no animosity at all.
17:23I don't know if T-Bob got that tweet.
17:25I think got people going maybe that it off maybe.
17:27And maybe even T-Bob didn't know the backstory of us with Greg.
17:31I don't think he did.
17:32Yeah.
17:32So yeah, that was, I mean, I think it's,
17:35it's funny, but he gets crazy.
17:38What do you feel like this week went on wake up Dave?
17:41What's that?
17:42How do you think wake up went this week on FS1?
17:44I think it's getting better.
17:45I thought it went pretty well.
17:47Yeah.
17:47When is Rico back on Mondays?
17:48He's not hosting it.
17:49We want Rico back on Mondays.
17:51No, there's Rico back in the mix on Mondays yet.
17:53No, no, maybe, maybe Mutt.
17:55You're like the perfect kind of boring middle host.
17:58I thought that for a minute.
17:59Yeah.
17:59Okay.
18:00I've hosted a lot of shows, Dave.
18:02I've hosted a lot of shows before.
18:03Yeah.
18:03Yeah.
18:03What are these big changes that Roan's hinting at?
18:06I have no idea.
18:07No idea.
18:08None?
18:08No.
18:09No.
18:09Okay.
18:09Well, interesting week for us again, Dave, you and I, I mean.
18:13Well, I mean, he's found the formula.
18:18You mentioned my name and things go.
18:20So you're not the first to find this formula, Kirk.
18:23I have been embraced by the left and we just have a fundamental disagreement.
18:28That's all we seem to have all the time.
18:29I think where you're lost in the Kimmel thing and you may disagree is I don't think you're
18:34giving enough weight to the FCC and Trump of it all.
18:36I don't think, I don't think this is a first amendment free speech.
18:39ABC could fire anybody anytime they want.
18:41My thing is when the government is putting the thumb on and the head of the FCC is celebrating
18:46and Trump is tweeting and saying he's going to sue ABC now.
18:50Like we're now in a different world.
18:51I don't even care about Kimmel, but to me, it's kind of a terrifying thing when the president
18:55and the head of the FCC are weighing in on stuff like this.
18:57Yeah, I mean, I certainly get your point and I think I'm in the minority on how I feel
19:02on this, but you know, he, the, the FCC Trump hate this show.
19:09He, he went into what I would say is a grayish enough area and you're on network TV.
19:16I thought that was not, I thought that was pretty benign.
19:18I did not think that was a big deal.
19:19That line, not at all.
19:21Yeah.
19:21But you're also the extreme, like, like when Mick was making fun of me like three seconds
19:27after murder, there's a lot of people who feel very strongly about Charlie.
19:31I understand that, but I don't even think, but like the line of self was almost muddled.
19:36Like it didn't make any sense.
19:37He wasn't celebrating Charlie Kirk dying, but you're making a joke about murder.
19:41And then the other one that is more gray area.
19:43And by the way, I wasn't offended necessarily by it, but he definitely made it sound like
19:48the killer was MAGA.
19:50So that is not true.
19:52So what he said was, what he said was that the, that MAGA is doing everything to make sure
19:56he, he wasn't MAGA, but that can be interpreted.
20:00Sure.
20:00But now we're interpreting.
20:01He didn't say the killer was MAGA, but you're, you're doing things in a super heightened
20:05sensitive area on network TV that the government does have the ability to jump in here and
20:12try to get involved.
20:13That's the FCC.
20:14So if you have all these complaints coming to the FCC, I agree with the government, but
20:18why is he back on the air now?
20:20If it was the government doing it?
20:22Well, because I, I, well, I think ABC, I think the government pressured ABC and I think
20:26ABC got so much blowback that they were like, no, I don't think the government was like,
20:29take them off the air, shut it down.
20:31But they definitely pressured them.
20:32There's no doubt.
20:33The fucking FC chairman was on podcasts before saying, we're looking out for this guy.
20:37If you say this, this, we're coming after you.
20:39So if they really thought the government could, could hurt them, they probably wanted to put
20:43them back on.
20:43It's I think I felt like opinion.
20:45I felt like they had to, I think they felt like they had to public opinion.
20:48Yes.
20:48Which is fine.
20:49That's, that's, that's my business side.
20:51Correct.
20:51And that's my point is if Kimmel says that enough affiliates are pissed, enough people
20:55are pissed.
20:56ABC is going to take them off the air eventually anyway.
20:58Like I don't need the FCC and I don't need Trump stepping in.
21:02It will take care of itself.
21:03That's why even the Roseanne thing, like, you know, she tweeted something stupid.
21:07She said something stupid.
21:08Enough affiliates and advertisers pulled out ABC on their own without the FCC said, you know
21:13what?
21:13You're right.
21:14We're taking her off the air.
21:15That's a business decision.
21:16I'm okay with it.
21:17You're right.
21:18But I, and I don't want to do what about ism in this specific case.
21:23I think they put the ball on a tee where the government can, I just can have a, whether
21:31you want to say it's real or not, they can make the argument.
21:34You've waded into our territory now.
21:37I, and people are talking about the merger and stuff.
21:40There's always stuff like that going on.
21:42That's a big part of it though.
21:43That is a big part.
21:43But yeah, there's a billion dollars, a hundred percent.
21:46But throughout the history of time, the government has sway.
21:50So again, if you're Disney and you have a guy, it's like, and you're trying to do this
21:54deal or whatever, and you have a guy who was intentionally pissing off the president,
21:59the government, whatever you want to say.
22:00And he, he opened Pandora's box to me and it was, he's off because of business decisions.
22:07And he, if they thought the government could really like suspend their license, take them
22:12away, do that.
22:12He won't be back on.
22:13He's back on because of public opinion, which I'm fine with that too.
22:17Like for me, the far greater thing is where I don't want to say to what about ism when
22:22you de-platform Trump off X or YouTube censoring, that is far more grave.
22:29But this is part of that.
22:30This is the first step towards that, Dave.
22:31This is why I can't believe you're okay with the government getting involved in comedic stuff
22:35like this.
22:36But the government is, again, whether I agree it or not, he treaded into an area that allowed
22:43on it.
22:43What's the area?
22:44I think he did.
22:45You think, you think him saying that line was bad enough to get pulled off the air?
22:49You don't believe that.
22:50You don't think that.
22:51No, I do.
22:53You think he should be taken off the air?
22:55I don't think he was thrown off because of the government.
22:57But I'm saying, you would agree if the FCC is like, we're taking him off the air, we're
23:03suspending it.
23:03You would agree with them for that line?
23:07If the FCC took him off the air?
23:10Oh, you wouldn't agree.
23:11No way.
23:12No way.
23:14The line wasn't a big deal.
23:16The president doesn't like him.
23:18He watches late night TV.
23:19He's one of the few guys left who watches late night TVs watching.
23:21He's friends of the FCC.
23:22It's totally tied to that.
23:23It's not what he said.
23:24It's who he said it about.
23:25That's what's annoying about this.
23:27We should be able to joke about all these guys.
23:29No, that's not really true.
23:31He, and you can interpret it however he said.
23:33It wasn't a joke.
23:34Do you think what he said?
23:35No, no.
23:36No, but I also don't care.
23:37It was misconstrued.
23:38He fumbled it.
23:38He fumbled it.
23:39But I also don't care.
23:40That is a big, he's a late night talk show host.
23:42But for a group of people who are fanatical about their 40s.
23:48And you know what?
23:49Then do what the right does now.
23:50Try and cancel them.
23:51Go out.
23:52Don't watch.
23:53Get petitions together.
23:54The FCC, they opened the door for the SEC to comment.
23:57By the way he delivered that line, which wasn't a joke, and talking about death.
24:02You'd agree the FC was already looking to take him down.
24:04I'm sure, yes.
24:06I'm sure.
24:07With pressure from Trump.
24:08Yes.
24:09Pressure from Trump.
24:09So that's my point.
24:11It's like, why?
24:11Why is that going on?
24:12Why does Trump care?
24:13Now Trump's talking about suing ABC?
24:16Like, what the fuck is he talking about?
24:16Listen, I come at it from a different perspective.
24:19If you think that somebody's wronged you, like, I sued Business Insider.
24:23Well, sure.
24:24But do you think Jimmy Kimmel's done to Donald Trump what Business Insider did to you?
24:28No, I don't.
24:29But again, if you're going on a fanatical group, and you basically say,
24:34a guy you adored and loved was just murdered by one of your own,
24:37and you can say he didn't mean it that way.
24:39He didn't say that.
24:40He didn't say that.
24:41It can be construed that way.
24:42He can be construed that way.
24:44Yeah, but you're on FCC government-regulated TV.
24:48I'm not even a Kimmel guy, but yeah.
24:50I mean, I just feel like late-night talk show hosts should be allowed to make fun of the President of the United States.
24:53Then get, if you want to be able to say, yeah, and he has.
24:58He has consistently.
24:59How long has he been on the air?
25:00Sure, 20 years.
25:01But now Trump is going after him.
25:02No, but for eight years he has.
25:04This one, again, when I say don't put a ball in our tee, I get he allowed the FCC to enter into this.
25:11This is not First Amendment speech to me.
25:13You said something.
25:13I agree with you.
25:14It's not a First Amendment issue.
25:15I agree.
25:15It can fairly be construed that you blame the murder on a group of people who loved him the most.
25:23You can say, well, I didn't interpret it that way, but it certainly can be interpreted that way.
25:28I guess when you get into it.
25:29That's where the FCC can go to the outside of their rule and be like, this falls within decency.
25:34You're on network TV.
25:36Like, the things that I've been told I can't, and I use the example of when we were regulated by Penn.
25:42And, like, you're living in a world, you don't have that total free reign.
25:46You work for Walt Disney.
25:48And, by the way, you're making it much harder for Walt Disney to conduct business.
25:52Well, when you were doing that with Penn, the president of the United States did not step in and say, don't do this.
25:57I'm going to sue you.
25:58I'm going to take you, remove you from your career.
26:01Well, no, the president did do that, but certainly gambling officials in Massachusetts did because they didn't like it.
26:06I agree.
26:07But that is different than the government stepping in.
26:09No, that is the government.
26:11How is that not the government?
26:12Oh, you're saying when you're going to license with the local government.
26:14Yeah, they went after it was a sarcastic line about the parlay.
26:18That was ridiculous.
26:19Embarrassing by Massachusetts.
26:20That was stupid.
26:21I agree.
26:21That's embarrassing.
26:22But that, but so it always happened.
26:24Like, this is what I'm saying.
26:26To me, this is.
26:27That's not good.
26:28That's so what?
26:29Like, so.
26:30But it's always had, this isn't, this wasn't some grandiose change.
26:34Like, Kimmel did something for, and you know these people hate you.
26:39You probably should stay away from that color joke that fast after a political assassination.
26:45Yeah, I just disagree.
26:46You know that.
26:47I mean, I just.
26:47I know it.
26:48I disagree.
26:48Like, do it on, if he has that big of an issue, go to Netflix, go to Hulu, do your own.
26:54There's a million places where you won't have that thumb.
26:57But network TV is one of the last places where you truly can have that type of interference.
27:04And why I say it's business, in the end, Walt, they put him back on the air, but all Walt Disney, because I've known about Iger and he's been probably on both sides, like left, right.
27:15He's just doing what he thinks is the right thing for his business in that moment.
27:20And I think, like, regardless of the FCC mentioning anything, he's coming down because they're so mad about it.
27:27There's so much thing.
27:28And you have this merger supposedly coming.
27:30I don't think the FCC had to say anything.
27:32I agree.
27:33That's kind of my point.
27:34That's what I'm saying.
27:35If they just stayed out of it, you have Sinclair doesn't want any part of him.
27:38I think the same thing happens.
27:39And I think, you know, like, that's OK, then the government didn't get involved.
27:43That's fine.
27:44ABC is losing money on him anyway.
27:46So they want him on.
27:47My point, and this is where we disagree, is the FCC, you gave them enough that he could weigh in by what he said.
27:56There's no way you were offended by that line.
27:59Well, time out.
28:00If me and you are the barrier.
28:02I agree.
28:02I'm saying there was never going to be anybody offended by anything.
28:04I would agree.
28:05But me, well, you were offended by the Jewish stuff a few months ago.
28:08Well, yeah, that that screaming at me.
28:10How many Jews have to die?
28:11I don't fucking know.
28:12Right.
28:12Well, there were blood in the streets still.
28:15I understand.
28:15But yeah, but you but you I'm just saying you as an individual.
28:18But that is there is parallels here because that's how no, no, no.
28:22People are from the Charlie Kirk murder.
28:24People tweeting at you die Jew is different than fucking Jimmy Kimmel making sort of a convoluted weird line in a monologue.
28:32I just don't think it's the same.
28:33Now, Charlie Kirk died and that's tragic.
28:35But I'm saying I think one is was way more the shit you were taking for that was way more extreme than what Jimmy Kimmel said.
28:42I don't totally disagree with that.
28:45But my point being is there's people who love, love, love Charlie Kirk.
28:50And you see a late night comedian making jokes about his big boy pants on like it's OK.
28:55Then here's the more problematic is blaming on those people.
28:59And again, it can be interpreted whether you want to say it was or not.
29:03Intelligent minds can certainly be like, wait a minute.
29:05He's saying we killed our own guy in that you allow the FCC to weigh in on.
29:11Well, my friends, MSNBC and I disagree.
29:13Yeah.
29:13I mean, listen, I see it.
29:15Every headline, Kirk Minahan destroys Dave Porno.
29:18Dave, it's that you have come.
29:21You're you're you're the seat at the table.
29:23We have a lot of people have learned.
29:25Put his name in the headline and the views start coming.
29:29What else?
29:31Do you hate Dante?
29:31My fellow blogger now.
29:33I see Aaron out text.
29:34Do you hate Dante from what happened or what's going on there?
29:36Dante.
29:37Well, I mean, come on.
29:39Listen, Dante's version of events that what happened with that Gronk thing is a lie.
29:44Like that's a lie.
29:46What?
29:46Totally.
29:47I don't know what his version of events are.
29:50I know I was there.
29:51I've told this story 10 billion times, but Gronk and Dante met through me as almost all
30:00Dante's contacts.
30:01We were filming a video, Gaz and I, at Buffalo Bill's tailgate.
30:05We're there 7 a.m., 6 a.m., gates open, walk-in videos.
30:10Takes a long time to do the man on the street.
30:12We're there four or five hours.
30:13He was with the Gronks at a bus and we said, we want to come get B-roll for it.
30:19He said, no, you cannot come film here.
30:21I was standing as we were walking there.
30:23So something happened.
30:25Gaz is on the phone, not me.
30:27But Gaz was relaying the conversation in real time.
30:31Something most definitely happened that stopped me and Gaz in our tracks walking to the bus.
30:38And I was like, what an asshole.
30:40Like, the video we're making here is how Dante has met people like this through us because we're making content.
30:49And it really, really bothered me.
30:51Now, we got over it.
30:52But then he'll do things that really, really bother me.
30:55Like dropping out.
30:56And his whole analogy dropped out of Pizza Fest.
30:59He didn't call me.
30:59He didn't tell me.
31:00And his whole thing with Nicky Smokes was, why did you call the restaurant?
31:04Why didn't you call me and tell me?
31:06Like, it wasn't the end of the deal.
31:07But like, I found out.
31:08So, and then he just texts and whatever.
31:11I mean, we have a love-hate relationship.
31:12But his version of events of what happened that day make no sense.
31:17None.
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32:37I like seeing your dad again.
32:39I didn't see him in a while.
32:39Yeah, he was making no sense.
32:41I saw it.
32:41He was just, what chore doesn't he like?
32:44Did you watch it or not?
32:45First of all, he doesn't do chores.
32:46He does not do chores.
32:47That's why I couldn't name one.
32:49Right.
32:49He's never done them.
32:51No, not in a long time.
32:52He may not be capable.
32:54How's he doing?
32:55I haven't seen.
32:55I saw some of the trivia.
32:56He was there.
32:57Yeah, he's doing all right.
32:58He's definitely slowing down a little bit.
33:00He's got therapists.
33:01So, you know, getting old sucks.
33:02My mother was actually out here.
33:05That's why I couldn't do yesterday.
33:06Your mom was there?
33:07Yeah.
33:08So, he spent the day at golf.
33:09That was good.
33:10But, yeah, he's hanging in.
33:11Yeah, she's great.
33:13Good, good.
33:13Yeah.
33:14What do you got, Mutt?
33:15You're here.
33:15Is that the best round of golf you played, Dave, when you beat Dan in the Ryder Cup singles?
33:18I was very good.
33:21Whitney.
33:22I mean, you would have beaten him straight up.
33:24You were two up on him, I think.
33:25He was awful.
33:26He was awful.
33:27A lot of people saying, including me, you ruined the whole thing, Kirk.
33:30I did.
33:32Yeah, with your.
33:33A lot of people, including you, meaning you and I ruined it.
33:36You're also saying I ruined it.
33:38I think your terroristic behavior on the draft.
33:42So, I was not.
33:43It was not a terroristic behavior.
33:45I was not.
33:45Wait a second.
33:46I actually played very well, by the way.
33:48Yeah, no, you played well, but the teams, the handcuffs on the draft.
33:52I never said to be drafted.
33:54I didn't say I needed to be picked first.
33:57Yeah, you did, didn't you?
33:58No, I said I didn't want to play with the foreplay guys.
34:01You said you were going to, like, quit or something.
34:02Yeah, but did you think I was going to leave?
34:04I didn't.
34:05Listen, I was sitting there yelling at people not to do it, but it created a lopsided mismatch.
34:11It was not a great matchup.
34:13It was not as good as the first Ryder Cup, I will say.
34:15So, I blamed Whitney.
34:17Kirk, it's your fault that Whitney took you first instead of taking Francis?
34:19It wasn't my fault.
34:20Whitney was the captain.
34:22No, they had all sorts of things going in, and it ended up.
34:27Oh, I didn't know this.
34:28Oh, okay.
34:29And I blamed Whitney for a terrible draft.
34:30I had no demands.
34:31I had no demands.
34:32Like, he wouldn't play with any of the foreplay guys, right?
34:35That's true.
34:35Correct.
34:36Yeah, so it was like.
34:38I don't know.
34:39It was a disaster.
34:40I will say, to me, it was over when Yandel and I won our match on the 18th green.
34:46And nobody was there.
34:46And I will give Riggs credit.
34:48His entire team was there.
34:51And it was just me and Yandel by ourselves against the world when we won the match.
34:54I think I looked at Dave and said, it's over.
34:56It's done.
34:57That was not good.
34:57That was not.
34:58And that's a reflection of leadership, I think, if we're going to be fair about this.
35:02So, yeah.
35:03I mean, it's crazy to take.
35:04I think I was dead last.
35:06Like, Dan can have his moments, but, like, I'm a significantly better golfer than him.
35:10So, like, that.
35:12Well, Dan's two tee shots were unbelievable.
35:15The one that went one foot.
35:16And then the par three one was, the other one was better.
35:19He looked like he was 90 years old and just kind of gave up on it.
35:22And went like.
35:23Tried to take a light club.
35:24Four feet.
35:25That was pretty good.
35:26So, but yeah.
35:27Have you seen the Photoshop of Mitzi?
35:30Yeah.
35:30I was just looking at it and seeing it.
35:32He looks like Ryan Gosling.
35:34That's a good look.
35:35I understand.
35:36I need that photographer.
35:38That's why you keep him around.
35:39Can I see this here?
35:42Can we get close?
35:43Did he ask for that?
35:47Like, where did they come up with that?
35:50I don't.
35:51Do you think he would demand?
35:52I don't think he would.
35:52Would he?
35:54Who knows?
35:55He said he's never asked for more money.
35:57That's a lie.
35:59He's never asked for.
36:00He said that?
36:01Yeah.
36:01I've always taken the first offer.
36:03That is he's negotiated.
36:05So that's a lie.
36:06Okay.
36:06You think you think he, you think he has photo approval?
36:10You never know what's going on with him.
36:11He's so he, he's somebody who would look at that and think that's what he really looks
36:15like.
36:16I guess.
36:16I've seen him in person.
36:17He does not look like that.
36:18That is for sure.
36:19Uh, what was, yeah, it's a shocker, by the way, that RA, I mean, uh, that, that blind
36:25Mike disagreed with Kimmel take that was the most, cause these comedians are the number
36:29one guys on it on the Jimmy Kimmel thing.
36:32Yes.
36:32So you think by Mike's a comedian?
36:34He thinks he is, doesn't he?
36:35Right.
36:35He thinks he is.
36:36Yeah.
36:36That's more accurate.
36:37Yeah.
36:37He might not.
36:37Yeah.
36:38He was very, we were talking about the show.
36:40He's very passionate about it and was very critical of you more than I was naturally.
36:45But again, I think he, he, people consistently lose track of you're, you're not at your own
36:51private show or you're working under rules that are laid out.
36:55Right.
36:55That part I get.
36:56And I disagree with him too.
36:57Like it is a business.
36:58So my thing, I'm not to go back, but let the business handle itself.
37:02Eventually ABC would have got rid of it because they're losing money.
37:05I'm like, like CBS did CBS.
37:07So where we disagree is I don't think anything changes except maybe your argument, whether
37:14the FCC weighed in or not.
37:16And I think they hate him so much.
37:19They're like, Oh, he opened the door a crack where I can go at him.
37:23But I don't think like Disney was like, Oh my God, the FCC, we got to take this.
37:27So they already, they fucking already know Trump hates their, like, but then you had
37:30the, you had the guy to say it.
37:32Then you have the head of the FCC sending out memes after Kimmel's gone though.
37:36Like victory, like victory flags.
37:39But that's not a defense though.
37:41I know, but that's not a defense.
37:42I mean, that's how they operate.
37:44That's how Trump.
37:46I know.
37:47That's what I'm saying.
37:48Exactly.
37:48He actually said it in the Charlie Kirk Memorial, which he turned into political.
37:52He hates, he's like, yeah, he's like the difference between me and Charlie tried
37:55to like everyone.
37:56I hate everybody.
37:57So he's like me is not a presidential thing to do, but it, and it can give the appearance
38:02of impropriety, I guess, but I don't think it, ABC doesn't care that the FCC is making
38:08memes or said it.
38:09They're doing what they feel is in their best interest.
38:12No, they care because I think bringing Kimmel back is actually not in their financial best
38:16interest, but they had to do it.
38:18They had to do it because they felt like they were losing some PR by like they brought him
38:22back.
38:22No, but I think that it's all finance.
38:24But they're going to get rid of him eventually.
38:26I think, you know, I think the best argument is everyone's like, oh, the government got
38:31rid of Colbert.
38:32They got rid of Colbert.
38:33You can't criticize Trump.
38:34South Park, also owned by the same company, just kills them, kills Trump.
38:39And they're still there because they make money for the company.
38:42Well, that I think is a good on a different channel.
38:45Well, they're paramount, though.
38:46Like they're all part of the CBS.
38:47Yeah, but that doesn't matter.
38:48No, but my point is, they're all part of the CBS umbrella, though.
38:52Correct.
38:52My point, I don't think CBS, because again, and even Disney, there's some things you may
38:57look like, oh, left, right.
38:59But if you're on Comedy Central, there's no...
39:04There's no FC regulation.
39:06Yeah, right.
39:07You can't get in there.
39:08Yeah, but it can still be part of some merger later on.
39:11Correct.
39:11That, to me, is a real test, is if a network show, which is hard to do, if a network show
39:17is making a ton of profit, and they do something Trump doesn't like and Trump bitches, will the
39:22network put on their pants and say no?
39:25That's the question.
39:26Well, they kind of put on their pants now and said no.
39:28Kind of, but they're losing.
39:29But to me, they were happy to capitulate.
39:32If there had been no blowback to Kimmel, they would have been fine just letting Kimmel
39:34float away.
39:35What do you think, like, the rumors are that they're like, hey, maybe you address this
39:44be contrite.
39:45He's like, no fucking way.
39:46I'm going to double down the next day.
39:48And that's when they're like...
39:49I don't know if that's true, though.
39:50I saw Kimmel's like a...
39:51He plays ball, I think.
39:52He's a corporate guy.
39:53Like, he does a lot of stuff for ABC.
39:56He seemed...
39:56He did...
39:57But he hates him so much.
39:58He does.
39:58But I thought he...
39:59I thought...
39:59And I'm not a Kimmel guy.
40:00I think his show stinks.
40:01I thought he came across pretty contrite the other night when I watched it.
40:04He seemed like he was okay.
40:05I said that.
40:06I said if he did that, though, day two, I don't think this is an issue.
40:10And by the way, I'm not really...
40:11I hate Colbert.
40:12I think he's terrible.
40:13I agree.
40:13Thanks.
40:13Kimmel take or leave.
40:14I don't really like...
40:15So it really...
40:16I'm not on a right or left.
40:17It just didn't surprise me.
40:18I think ultimately it's business.
40:20And I think ultimately it wasn't that the FCC guy commented.
40:24Because what does that change?
40:25They know he hates him.
40:27And the FCC guy thought, Carr, hey, this guy can open the door a little where I can keep
40:34what I'm arguing whether I agree with it or not.
40:36His job shouldn't be trying to take people down.
40:39Like, he should be hunting down stuff.
40:41He shouldn't be searching, parsing through lines to take shows.
40:44Like, that should not be, in my opinion, the FCC's job.
40:47Yeah.
40:47I don't...
40:49But his counter would be, well, when I woke up, I was inundated with FCC complaints because
40:54of what he said.
40:55So I wasn't, like, looking for it.
40:58But I couldn't avoid it because you angered at a very sensitive time.
41:02But I agree with it.
41:03But I think it's gone on forever.
41:05The only difference is they're...
41:06I'd almost...
41:07They just say it.
41:08They don't like...
41:09No, this is...
41:10Yeah, right.
41:10There's a history of this where, you know, like, for instance, the guy who Kimmel replaces,
41:14Bill Maher, who got taken off the air, if you remember, after September 11th, made a joke
41:18that the hijackers had courage.
41:20And so that's why he was off...
41:22Like, he got taken off the air.
41:23So there's a history of this happening.
41:25It's just the FCC jumping in is unusual.
41:27Right.
41:28So I guess...
41:29But that's a good example for my argument.
41:31But the affiliates spoke.
41:32The affiliates spoke.
41:33It's not really changing.
41:34Like, I think everything goes down the same way.
41:37We may not like that car spoke, but that's the world we're in.
41:41And it doesn't change how anything's operated for me.
41:43Right, right.
41:44And I got to see I'm a moron and I'm getting attacked by my own employees.
41:50And...
41:51Oh, did I get her in there?
41:52Where's my girl?
41:54Blue 50.
41:54How is that her?
41:55RBG.
41:56She's with me all the time.
41:56She's my queen.
41:57You got anything else?
42:00Just a quick...
42:01Good call by you.
42:03They bring them out of the bowl.
42:04Not in my head.
42:04Is the Ryder Cup definitely back in two years, Dave?
42:07Is it definitely back?
42:10Our Ryder Cup?
42:11Yeah.
42:11Two years.
42:11Yeah, most likely.
42:12I'm going to give you a take.
42:13I don't like the real Ryder Cup.
42:14How's that for a take?
42:15Oh, what are you doing?
42:16Why?
42:17Why?
42:17Doesn't do it for me.
42:19First of all, I don't like them bitching about getting paid.
42:21I know people making money.
42:22But I didn't like it before that.
42:23I think to a man, if you asked these guys, well, I know what they'd say if it's a major.
42:30But if you're like, would you rather win like the Honda Classic?
42:33Most of them would be like, yeah, give me the Honda Classic.
42:35Oh, really?
42:36Do you know that based on, have you talked to guys at that level or not?
42:39No, no.
42:39I don't know anything.
42:40Oh, I don't think that's true.
42:41I don't think that's true.
42:42I don't think that's true.
42:44Not maybe a chef, but like some of the guys haven't won in a bit.
42:47Yeah.
42:48A major for sure.
42:49For sure.
42:49The players, I'd even give you that.
42:51But if you said them would rather win the Houston Open or the Ryder Cup, I think they'd
42:54say the Ryder Cup.
42:55I think they'd take the Houston.
42:56Also, I just can't get into like, I saw the foreplay guys are spamming like the speech,
43:03the firefighter, great speech, but it's like golf doesn't do that for me.
43:08It's not like we're going into a boxing match with a miracle on ice.
43:11That I agree with.
43:12I just like the match play element of it.
43:15All the other stuff.
43:15That feels contrived now.
43:17Okay.
43:18So that's why I guess what I'm saying.
43:19I don't mind the actual ad, but like.
43:20I agree with you on that.
43:21Yeah, we agree.
43:23Okay.
43:23So that's the part that I, yeah, that's the part to build up.
43:26Like your Americans do this for like the, the calling man, like one, two, three America.
43:32And I, I just don't like, I didn't get, I don't get worked up about Dennis Conner and
43:37the America's cup.
43:38Right.
43:38Like that type.
43:40I don't think most Americans actually look at this as like the last stand of the United
43:45States of America.
43:47Anything else from you, Matt?
43:48That was your question.
43:48The Ryder Cup in two years.
43:49I want to know what the Ryder Cup was going to come back.
43:51And I want to know if Dave and Ilya, what's a month away.
43:54We're a month away.
43:54It's got your college football guy.
43:56I understand Saturdays is bar still going to be represented the breeders cup this year.
44:00It's a big horse racing event.
44:01No.
44:02Unless we send you because I have college football.
44:06I will say you'll find this maybe you and four other people.
44:10It's looking like I may have the first two entries of go, go grays next week.
44:17Let's go in New York.
44:19One is going to be Delaware of all places, but actually in my mind is my best horse.
44:24So that's Wonder Girl Carly, who was training great at Oak Lawn, had double knee surgery.
44:30What the fuck are we talking about here?
44:31Who's your trainer?
44:32Same trainer for everybody or different trainers?
44:35Lindy Schultz is Wonder Girl.
44:36Yep.
44:37And has seemingly come back.
44:39But this was like my most expensive horse I've ever bought.
44:41It's like seven, 800 grand, gun runner.
44:43And then Miss Watermelon at opening day at Keeneland.
44:47Oh, baby.
44:49Congratulations.
44:50Are you going to go?
44:50We'll see.
44:51We still need to get through the hoops.
44:53Oh, yeah.
44:53I'll be there.
44:54Which one?
44:55Delaware, Delaware, or Keeneland are both?
44:57I'll go to both if I can.
44:58Yeah.
44:59So that will be exciting.
45:01I gave Elio half of my horse and we named her Miss Ice.
45:06Wow.
45:08Tremendous.
45:09Tremendous.
45:10You're going to have a ton of fans there.
45:11I cannot wait.
45:12I cannot wait.
45:13At Delaware, I doubt it.
45:15I can see it.
45:15I've never been to Delaware.
45:16I don't know where that track is.
45:18Dave, they were all over parks this weekend.
45:20Everyone's like, do more racing stuff.
45:22Dave's wrong.
45:23A lot of Barstool fans love racing.
45:25They were coming up left and right at parks this weekend.
45:27They love you.
45:28Well, you also said Foxwoods was like packed or Mohegan when you were doing that show.
45:32There's six people.
45:33There are four people there.
45:35Listen, there are some issues there.
45:36There are some issues.
45:37Literally.
45:38How would you great?
45:38How's the Muttstack, Dave?
45:40You're in charge of it now.
45:41How's the Muttstack?
45:41Oh, I think Muttstack's pretty good.
45:42Yeah, I got to send in my editor's note for today.
45:45Are you going to know the note for this week?
45:46Yeah, I think I'll continue with the notes.
45:49I got to fight your propaganda, Kirk.
45:51Somehow, I got to get my word out on the streets.
45:53I've had people, forget Muttstack's, I've had people come up to me and say that you
45:56and I should be doing a political show.
45:58Oh, he and you, Dave, which would get you, I think the amount of tweets and your life
46:03would be over in about 45 seconds, I think.
46:05Less than.
46:06Less than.
46:07I mean, I said, I would do it.
46:08I think there's so many things I want to talk about in politics.
46:11I think we'd actually do a good one.
46:13And then, yeah, but I want, listen, this is not a world where, there's so many crazies
46:20out there.
46:21I get, I'm not even when I'm not talking about it, I still get so much just stuff.
46:26And once you wait in, you're in, like you are in.
46:30I'm like, I kind of, when you, when you're like, I'm worried about it, it's like, but
46:33you're already in.
46:35No, not like, not like some of the takes I got.
46:38Like what?
46:38Give me one.
46:41Let's try it out.
46:42Come on, just one, Dave.
46:43Just one.
46:43I'm talking about horse racing.
46:44Everyone's gone now anyway.
46:45For Whitney.
46:46Because I, I, I need like, if I'm going to do my takes, I can't be traveling around going
46:51to football this, I need a war room.
46:53So I have information ready.
46:55I'd be going at some of the craziest people right now out there in my mind.
47:00What I'm saying is I'm offering you whenever you want to do it, like the old crossfire
47:03show, we disagree on stuff.
47:04We like to talk to each other, like to battle.
47:06If you ever want to do it, I'll do it.
47:08But then you cut it up and your team or whoever's putting out those tweets, just antagonize the
47:14entire world against me.
47:16That's right.
47:16Yeah.
47:17Correct.
47:17Yeah.
47:18That's the goal.
47:19Yeah.
47:19I think that's the goal.
47:19So you're in Illinois this weekend.
47:21Yes.
47:22Champagne.
47:22And then I'm actually flying from there.
47:25I'm going to go with Frank Siller, Tunnel to Towers.
47:27They have a big event.
47:28Oh, you're doing that?
47:29Yeah.
47:29They shut down the tunnels.
47:31They read.
47:31So I'm doing that Sunday.
47:33Sunday.
47:33Then you're, where are you?
47:34Then I think I do remote for, I was planning on doing it, but yeah, that'll already be.
47:39What?
47:40Delaware next week.
47:41Got to go there.
47:42Delaware.
47:43Yep.
47:43Delaware, Keeneland, Michigan.
47:46Okay.
47:47Okay.
47:47How's the house going?
47:48Uh, I think I'm closing on my place in the keys.
47:54Hopefully I got to figure that out.
47:56So.
47:56Okay.
47:56Good.
47:57A lot of travel, a lot of business, a lot of stuff going on, a lot of attacks from within.
48:01Attacks from within.
48:02Yeah.
48:03You.
48:03I'm not attack you.
48:05Oh, I mean the, the headlines.
48:07All right.
48:07Let's go.
48:08Let's Google my name.
48:09We have a fundamental disagreement.
48:11That's all.
48:12Yeah.
48:12We handle it.
48:13Today.
48:14I consider you.
48:14I consider you.
48:15I think you could send me a friend.
48:16I consider you a friend.
48:17Yeah.
48:17Let's defend you.
48:18You defend me.
48:19And I will offer all my services.
48:20You need a boring moderator for that political show.
48:22I can, I can moderate that.
48:23You've already proven that.
48:25Yeah.
48:25I was proven.
48:26Let's see here.
48:27Shout out Whitney.
48:28Chick, let's cup this weekend with.
48:30Yeah.
48:30That's why I was out.
48:31And I knew, by the way, I knew what the slander.
48:35Machine was going to be coming out.
48:36If I didn't do this show.
48:38Yeah.
48:38Oh, I knew the slander.
48:39Oh, I was guide the tweet.
48:40I had the tweet ready to go.
48:41Yeah.
48:41I already saw at one point.
48:43I have no idea what's going on with, with the unnamed.
48:46When Whitney was clear, like I can only do it.
48:48I didn't say that.
48:50Yeah.
48:50Yeah.
48:50At one point.
48:51Oh, I did.
48:52I have no idea.
48:53I might have said that.
48:54I might have said that.
48:55I might have said that.
48:58And that's where I see it.
48:59Did you see last week?
49:01There was a, there was a clip, a big left wing show.
49:04At the end of my rant, I was like, oh, typical Portnoy part of that tribe.
49:08Joking is our old joke.
49:09And the left wing people were like, wait a minute.
49:11Like, is this guy anti-Semitic?
49:13They're trying to cancel me for joking about what we fought about.
49:16I can't, you can't win.
49:17You can't joke around anymore.
49:19Dave Portnoy brutally mocked by Barstool host Kirk Minahan.
49:23Well, I didn't, I didn't, I don't think, I don't think that's true.
49:25I don't think I mocked you.
49:29We disagree.
49:29That's all.
49:30Did they give you this?
49:31A star Barstool sports star rips Dave Portnoy over his Jimmy Kimmel opinion.
49:36I stand by that.
49:37Yeah.
49:37You disagree with that?
49:39Well, I don't know.
49:40It was a star.
49:41Well, I'm a big, you know, people know who I am.
49:44I'm a rising star in the Democratic Party.
49:47Yeah, you are.
49:47I mean, I might run in 2028 at this point.
49:50Nobody else.
49:51Maybe I'll give it a shot.
49:53I hope Whitney's back next week.
49:55I really hope Whitney's back next week.
49:56We'll see you.
49:57You were horrible.
49:59Brutal.
49:59I was Whitney.
50:00I got a nod in my head.
50:01I took it for him.
50:02Would you give him an F?
50:04Oh, come on.
50:06I got him to talk about his horses.
50:08Come on.
50:08That's an A.
50:08That's an A plus.
50:10D.
50:11Oh, come on.
50:12Bullshit.
50:12See you next week.
50:13All right.
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