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Director James Vanderbilt and cast Richard E. Grant, Rami Malek, Michael Shannon and John Slattery sat down at THR's TIFF suite at the 1 Hotel in Toronto to dish on their new movie 'Nuremberg.' Vanderbilt touches on his wish list for grabbing a cast this iconic while also talking about how this trial was built to be a media trial so there was a lot of things to draw inspiration from. Plus, Malek shares how this is one of the most fun characters he's ever been able to play.

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00:00Everybody's always saying, do you have to take the shower to slip out of the character?
00:04I'm like, no, but...
00:06But my jeans changed.
00:07The other one is what?
00:08No, Rami didn't shower the whole shoot.
00:11I was that guy that almost got punched in the face.
00:13If you don't shower, put on deodorant, it's over.
00:21What did your wish list for casting look like?
00:24Or did you even... did you get to that point?
00:26Or how did you get everybody here?
00:29Do you think there's a better wish list?
00:30I mean, I got my wish list.
00:32It was incredible.
00:35I first started working on this 13 years ago.
00:38And, you know, Red Jack's book proposal.
00:42And it was the quickest I ever said yes to anything.
00:45And one of the things I really knew that I wanted was for Herman Goering to be played by...
00:50Goering, historically, is an incredibly charismatic fellow.
00:55Not, you know, it's sort of somebody once described him as the best dinner party guest you'll ever have.
01:00And so I knew I needed somebody to play that who had that magnetism and that gravitas.
01:05And that was Russell, who read it and had a conversation with him and was like, all right, man, I'll do it.
01:11You, I mean, you raised your hand for it.
01:13You read it on your own.
01:15Yeah.
01:15Right?
01:16I mean...
01:16Yeah, I tracked it down.
01:17Yeah.
01:18We met at your house, if you remember.
01:21Oh, yeah.
01:22And we broke down the script, you know, moment to moment, beat for beat.
01:26We talked about the character, the intricacies.
01:30There's a sense of charm that he has.
01:33And, you know, when you're with, you know, interrogating 22 Nazis, you need charm to disarm these men.
01:40The thing that struck me, I think, was that there's a sort of a built-in fatigue.
01:45I mean, you know, it's the end of a tragic world war.
01:49And everybody just wants to go home.
01:53And everybody has been through hell.
01:55And then there's this assignment that he's tasked with to come to this prison and make sure that these Nazis,
02:05who everyone has strong feelings, to say the least, about, are put on trial in front of the world.
02:11And no mistakes can be made.
02:14The other thing about this, too, is this trial was so covered.
02:18I mean, it was built to be a media trial.
02:21You know, the courtroom had been bombed out.
02:23And the allies came in and rebuilt the courtroom and made sure there were camera emplacements built in.
02:29The lights on the ceiling were graded to be so bright so that the film cameras could actually capture the events
02:36that the court givers were given sunglasses to wear during the trial because we get so hot.
02:41The pictures are crazy.
02:43Yeah, the pictures are crazy.
02:44And as, you know, Richard points out, too, it's all on YouTube.
02:47It's all there.
02:48So there's so many things to draw from, from what really happened here,
02:52that it was really a gift for us as we built this thing.
02:56Everyone asks, like, why do you play all these serious characters?
02:58And this is actually a film that appears to be very serious, which it is,
03:03but this is one of the most fun characters I've ever been able to play, which, I mean, seemed so ironic.
03:11And he does, not for nothing, he dresses cool.
03:14That jacket.
03:14No, that jacket, oh.
03:16We had to balance the cool.
03:17We had to, no, but it was so fascinating for me and for you guys, I don't want to,
03:21but watching how wardrobe can click into a character.
03:26I remember you finding that jacket and it was just like, oh, okay, this is, okay,
03:34I think this is who this guy is a little bit more.
03:36And then it sort of, it kind of grew.
03:38There would be scenes that were like, is the jacket in this scene, you think?
03:42Right.
03:42I think it is in this, you know, so it just sort of, I, you know,
03:45I find it amazing what they do.
03:48What does a refined group of gentlemen such as yourselves do in the evening to shake off a day?
03:54You go to dinner with Richard.
03:55Yeah.
03:56Because he insists.
03:59What is a dinner with Richard like?
04:02An enormous amount of food and an enormous amount of drink.
04:06And laughter.
04:07Yes.
04:08Yeah.
04:08And stories.
04:09Stories.
04:09You got to get out of here.
04:10Did young Leo join the dinner as well, or is it, he's, he's.
04:13Oh, yeah.
04:14Leo was game for it all.
04:16Leo was up for everything.
04:17We all, almost all of us lived in the same hotel, too.
04:20So there was definitely sort of a community.
04:22Yeah.
04:22And you would just run into people, you know, it's sort of, you know.
04:25There was a club on the top level.
04:27There was a club on the top level.
04:28Yeah.
04:28There was a little social club.
04:29Yeah, yeah.
04:30Put out snacks.
04:31For breakfast.
04:32Really good snacks.
04:33And from all day long.
04:35Yeah.
04:35So you'd either be like wandering in and you're, you know,
04:38in your slippers had to have an omelet or like a drink at the end of the night.
04:41It was pretty funny, actually.
04:42With Mike memorizing like 20 pages of dialogue every morning, I'd be like, oh, my God.
04:49Bro, I would see you on the balcony sometimes if you, you know.
04:51We're giving way too much away.
04:53Stop.
04:53Come on.
04:53I don't smoke.
04:54You were doing, you were doing.
04:55No, I was.
04:55You were learning magic.
04:56Great stories.
04:57Give us a story, Richard.
04:59Yeah, we're, I can, I can do my little rapid fire questions for the end or you could tell
05:03us a story.
05:03Rapid fire.
05:04Oh, rapid, all rapid fire to Richard.
05:08What is, especially when you're traveling for work on a set, et cetera, what's a creature
05:13comfort that you have to bring with you?
05:15Wigs.
05:21Change, if you're directing a movie, change your shoes.
05:23Change your shoes at lunch.
05:24And socks.
05:25Sage advice.
05:26Oh, you did.
05:27Oh, yeah.
05:27Choose.
05:28Absolutely.
05:28It's a new day.
05:29Mm-hmm.
05:30Gummies.
05:31Weed gummies.
05:32Gummy bears.
05:33Oh.
05:34Standard gummy bears.
05:35Standard.
05:36Standard gummy bears.
05:37You have to qualify that now.
05:38Oh, sorry.
05:39Sounded qualified.
05:39Standard gummy bears.
05:40Ooh, I, I think I have a particular pair of denim jeans that I can always wear that I'm
05:46like, ooh, I feel at home when I need to, if it's been a really rough day or, yeah, it's
05:51not all wine and roses on the set every day.
05:54What is, um, one of your first big splurges that you gifted yourself with on an early job?
06:01Like, first job, first paycheck.
06:03Car.
06:04Yeah, I bought a car.
06:05What kind of car?
06:06Does, do you still have it?
06:07I bought a Jeep and Milli Vanilli had the same Jeep.
06:10I found that out.
06:11I remember that Jeep.
06:12I was going to say MG.
06:13I was going to say MG.
06:15I got it first.
06:16Oh, my God.
06:17You bought an MG?
06:19Yeah.
06:19Oh, wow.
06:19No, I was going to say, for you, MG.
06:21I never bought a car.
06:22Oh, there you go.
06:22Oh.
06:23Do you have a car?
06:25No, I don't have a car.
06:25Have you ever bought a car?
06:27No.
06:27Oh, fascinating.
06:29I don't have a car.
06:30So how did you treat yours?
06:31You're in New York.
06:32I got a couch.
06:35A couch is a good one.
06:36It was like an old, it was like a fancy art deco-y type couch, but my roommate sat on it and
06:43he broke it.
06:45It snapped in half.
06:46Do you still talk to this guy?
06:47He's a big guy.
06:48Right.
06:48I haven't seen him in years.
06:50Do you know?
06:51I don't wish him any ill.
06:53I didn't think you did until you said that part.
06:55He was trying to be a Navy SEAL, but he didn't make it through the training.
06:58Oh, wow.
06:59He was a big guy.
07:00Mm-hmm.
07:00And he sat on the couch.
07:01He's on a glass.
07:01We'll see a little Navy.
07:02Yeah.
07:02Yeah.
07:03Oh, nice.
07:04If you're watching this, comment.
07:06More Wallace than SEAL.
07:07Patrick, I forgive you.
07:09Okay.
07:10Woo-hoo!
07:11You be-
07:13You're welcome.
07:15I'll see you next time.
07:17Bye-bye.
07:17Bye-bye.
07:21Bye-bye.
07:31Bye-bye.
07:32Bye-bye.
07:33Bye-bye.
07:37Bye-bye.
07:37Bye-bye.
07:38Bye-bye.
07:38Bye-bye.
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